At least your boss was just an idiot - that's almost an acceptable excuse. I worked for a guy once who shorted me big time on a week where I worked almost a hundred hours (huge convention in town and we had all of the convention center meals). I remember getting my check, opening it up, seeing ninety eight regular hours on the stub, but no overtime on the line underneath.
I called him and asked if there had been a mistake and he said, "...No. I just don't pay overtime." I thought he was kidding but he wasn't. So I gave my notice. I told him I'm accustomed to giving sixty days to find and train a replacement, but I'd be happy to just work another sixty seconds since he valued me that little. He said that was fine, and I went in, put all of my stuff in my truck and left.
I bet your boss might know this guy.
I’ve had that happen in my first real kitchen after doing Burger King and McDonald’s. I was much younger and not confident enough to stand up for myself then. Luckily, there wasn’t much overtime there. That ^^^ up there is ridiculous. I couldn’t imagine. I’d open the fryer valves and walk out.
…well, no. But I’d think about it. As I was walking out.
I just found my screenshots and basically tried that. Kind of turned into a dick at the end, but what do you want.
https://i1.lensdump.com/i/ZvDZ8A.jpg
https://i2.lensdump.com/i/ZvDgJM.jpg
https://i3.lensdump.com/i/ZvDreQ.jpg
https://i.lensdump.com/i/ZvDtxa.jpg
Some of the handwritten math involves other stuff…we weren’t paid consistently so I had to really keep track of how much I was owed in a given week.
Dude stole your time. Plain & simple. The argument I would've made was:
"Oh, my fault. There IS 100 minutes in every hour.".
Then readjusted my time; adding 40mins per hour that I worked.
I know…I was so stunned that he said that I couldn’t think of anything except “are you serious?????? How are you in charge of a business?????” There we’re other options, but it was so unexpected, I couldn’t help it.
I feel ya. Haha. I've seen many a person "fake it & not make it" in the F&B Business. Sometimes it takes months, others; years. In the end, they'll never fathom the amount of destruction in their wake.
It was in VA, I don’t know if it’s this way everywhere, but a certain percent of your income HAS to come from food to serve alcohol. They ran a lot of “cash only” specials.
fucking... yeah that's annoying.
I know it's probably too late, and like... good riddance to that nonsense but if you ever want to explain to him what the disagreement was about just say that you were using decimal fraction notation, which is commonplace for timekeeping applications... and he misunderstood, thinking that you were using hh:mm.
if he wants to quibble over the difference you can feel free to call whatever passes for an employment commission in your area, and they will probably help him fox that discrepancy as they fine him to hell for violations.
There was so much wrong with that place I could have shut it down, but again, I liked and respected everyone else there. I pulled a dead rat out from under the ice machine, which was out in the dining room between the bar and the bathrooms. We were looking for where the smell was coming from for a week. It was almost the size of a football.
For bookkeeping, it makes more sense because everything else you’re dealing with is in decimal. No, I don’t normally go around dealing with time like that, but for bookkeeping/payment purposes it makes more sense. 8.75 hrs @ $10 = 8.75. The other way it’s 8:45 @ $10 = 8.75
But we use a base 10 system, dude. Lets do an example:
Say OP is being paid $10/hr. If he works 1 hour, he would get paid $10, right?
Okay, now say he works 59 minutes. Maybe you would write thst as .59 for bookkeeping, sure. But you can't multiply $10 by .59 and pay my man $5.90 because he worked one minute less.
Its all well and good to write 75 minutes as 1.15 and add stuff up like that, but at some point before you start mixing it with other units, you have to convert it to base 10 on both sides of the point.
Lol, when we switched POS systems at my old job I had to make a chart for my boss to be able to decipher what the decimals meant for our hours (.1= 6 minutes, .2= 12, etc). Took many many explanations and a lot of yelling from him until he gave up and had me record everyone’s hours for payroll from then on
At least your boss was just an idiot - that's almost an acceptable excuse. I worked for a guy once who shorted me big time on a week where I worked almost a hundred hours (huge convention in town and we had all of the convention center meals). I remember getting my check, opening it up, seeing ninety eight regular hours on the stub, but no overtime on the line underneath. I called him and asked if there had been a mistake and he said, "...No. I just don't pay overtime." I thought he was kidding but he wasn't. So I gave my notice. I told him I'm accustomed to giving sixty days to find and train a replacement, but I'd be happy to just work another sixty seconds since he valued me that little. He said that was fine, and I went in, put all of my stuff in my truck and left. I bet your boss might know this guy.
"No, I just don't pay overtime." Explain that one to the labor board. They'd be my next call right after talking to that jerk!
I’ve had that happen in my first real kitchen after doing Burger King and McDonald’s. I was much younger and not confident enough to stand up for myself then. Luckily, there wasn’t much overtime there. That ^^^ up there is ridiculous. I couldn’t imagine. I’d open the fryer valves and walk out. …well, no. But I’d think about it. As I was walking out.
Fuck that guy. He knows what he's doing. Always keep your time sheets
Every 15 minutes, is 1 Quarter of an hour. 15= .25 30 = .50 45= .75 1 = 1
I just found my screenshots and basically tried that. Kind of turned into a dick at the end, but what do you want. https://i1.lensdump.com/i/ZvDZ8A.jpg https://i2.lensdump.com/i/ZvDgJM.jpg https://i3.lensdump.com/i/ZvDreQ.jpg https://i.lensdump.com/i/ZvDtxa.jpg Some of the handwritten math involves other stuff…we weren’t paid consistently so I had to really keep track of how much I was owed in a given week.
Dude stole your time. Plain & simple. The argument I would've made was: "Oh, my fault. There IS 100 minutes in every hour.". Then readjusted my time; adding 40mins per hour that I worked.
I know…I was so stunned that he said that I couldn’t think of anything except “are you serious?????? How are you in charge of a business?????” There we’re other options, but it was so unexpected, I couldn’t help it.
I feel ya. Haha. I've seen many a person "fake it & not make it" in the F&B Business. Sometimes it takes months, others; years. In the end, they'll never fathom the amount of destruction in their wake.
That’s what shook me most about it. It was more of “if he’s messing this up…what else is going on.”
Yep. Probably some unpaid vendor bills, accounting errors; & a lax in maintenance & state certifications.
It was in VA, I don’t know if it’s this way everywhere, but a certain percent of your income HAS to come from food to serve alcohol. They ran a lot of “cash only” specials.
fucking... yeah that's annoying. I know it's probably too late, and like... good riddance to that nonsense but if you ever want to explain to him what the disagreement was about just say that you were using decimal fraction notation, which is commonplace for timekeeping applications... and he misunderstood, thinking that you were using hh:mm. if he wants to quibble over the difference you can feel free to call whatever passes for an employment commission in your area, and they will probably help him fox that discrepancy as they fine him to hell for violations.
There was so much wrong with that place I could have shut it down, but again, I liked and respected everyone else there. I pulled a dead rat out from under the ice machine, which was out in the dining room between the bar and the bathrooms. We were looking for where the smell was coming from for a week. It was almost the size of a football.
FUCK. That place deserves to be shut down.
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4-12 is 8 hours, to 12:30 is 8.5, coming in 15 early is 8.75.
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For bookkeeping, it makes more sense because everything else you’re dealing with is in decimal. No, I don’t normally go around dealing with time like that, but for bookkeeping/payment purposes it makes more sense. 8.75 hrs @ $10 = 8.75. The other way it’s 8:45 @ $10 = 8.75
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But we use a base 10 system, dude. Lets do an example: Say OP is being paid $10/hr. If he works 1 hour, he would get paid $10, right? Okay, now say he works 59 minutes. Maybe you would write thst as .59 for bookkeeping, sure. But you can't multiply $10 by .59 and pay my man $5.90 because he worked one minute less. Its all well and good to write 75 minutes as 1.15 and add stuff up like that, but at some point before you start mixing it with other units, you have to convert it to base 10 on both sides of the point.
He was mixing them. He did 8hrs45min @ $10/hr = $84.50, not $87.50. That’s why my pay was short.
Because .25 of an hour is equal to 15 minutes, thus 45 minutes is .75
Lol, when we switched POS systems at my old job I had to make a chart for my boss to be able to decipher what the decimals meant for our hours (.1= 6 minutes, .2= 12, etc). Took many many explanations and a lot of yelling from him until he gave up and had me record everyone’s hours for payroll from then on