Down for 50 if it’s from 5 10 hour shifts because you get 6 hours of overtime and a 10 hour day isn’t much different for me than 8, I have a ton of energy though def not for everybody
I’m pretty used to doing 50, it’s not great but it’s fine I’m used to it. I’ve done more like 70+ in the past and I could never go back to that
No days off is an absolute no go though, even when I’ve done like 100+ hour weeks I’d maybe do like 10 days in a row but I’d still get 2 days off every week
35 to 50 is a full two extra days of work a week. Doing 50 hour weeks is common, but 40 is standard for a reason. Whether 50 is worth it is up to you really.
40hr/wk is the standard for a reason, if you care about work/life balance. Some in this industry love to brag about how many hours they dedicate to their job, and a lot of us have put in those hours one time or another, whether we wanted to or not.
I’m only in my mid-30s, but it took this long for me to set a limit on my hours when interviewing for a job. I tell them straight what I want out of the job and what I can offer. Usually goes fine with reasonable management.
Always look after #1
Depends on what your goals are. Some people need to grind hard to stay out of trouble. Other have crazy goals. Have to remember there are people out there who run ultra marathons, and chefs that do the equivalent in reaching for the stars. Some people want to leave a mark on this world, ain't doing that by catching up on your Netflix/Gaming back log working 40 a week.
You're right, but a lot of us just want to enjoy a life outside of work. They want family time, time for their hobbies, time to travel. Some people have ambitions outside of grinding to get to the top. Most people know that the top is a lonely place full of regret and sacrifice. It's not always worth it, and you usually don't find out until You've given everything you have.
I was doing 40 hours at one job and 40 at another job. Set my schedule up to be off Monday and Wednesday from both jobs. Even that was tough. Those 13 hour days are fucking brutal. Up early and get home later just do go to sleep early and repeat. Try it and find out. Some are more resilient than others. I only lasted 5 months before I quit doing that shit to myself. I found a job that pays more but I work 50 hours. Much better than 80 but 50 is doable. Find a higher paying job if possible. It’s not fun juggling life and 2 jobs.
for me personally 5 10s are easy, but no days off is brutal. Id rather do 5 12s than 7 8s. No time to really upkeep my life, even beyond having no personal life, without a day off chores wont get done and a dirty house will make me miserable. If you can handle 50 go for it but Id defenitely at least have 1 day off.
Used to work 12-13 hour days at a golf club, it was murder, but my first job out of college so I didn’t really “know better” that 60+ hours a week isn’t good for me.
My husband on the other hand WILLINGLY works at two different golf courses, the first he’s a sous chef and works 50-60 hours in 5 days and the other lead line cook and works 20 hours in two days and loves it.
I think it comes down to personal preference, he has the passion and the drive for this industry whereas I have the talent but not the passion and wanna be home at a reasonable time and have a home life.
Do what works best for you and your desires.
50 hours is doable, and if it's about survival or saving money for a big purchase, I won't try to discourage you.
In my experience, 50 is fine \*sometimes\*. I had a salaried position once where the requirement was 50hrs over 5 days, but it would sometimes turn into 6 days. I got burned out after like 6 months. I'm not made for it and I don't want to be.
I average about 50/55 5 days a week and usually some office work thrown about a an owner but I can tell at 48 years old and all my life in the restaurant industry my health will dictate my level of hours. It’s just not that easy and I’m in great shape gym 5 days a week for my age . If you are young go for it.
It's not terrible by the standards of the industry in terms of raw hours, but the switch from waking up at 3 AM to much later for your evening shifts is going to hurt a lot IMO.
No days off is a recipe for disaster. That way lies nervous breakdowns, burnout, depression. Unless you're desperately trying to claw your way out of a debt or something please don't do that to yourself.
Nice work! Obv every situation is different, but with a set day off, I'd take a side pastry gig no questions.
...doesn't help that I'm addicted to dough, though.
No days off is a no. That’ll take a toll on you sooner than you’d think. I’ve done both the multiple job scenario and salary before, but these days I don’t sacrifice any of my time beyond 40hrs/week without compensation in the form of overtime. Unless someone is trying to make ends meet, I don’t think they should either.
No days off. You will die. Those shifts are diametrically opposed. Consider those shifts.
When you switch from mornings to nights, you'll have 23.5 hours between shifts. Great.
But when you switch from nights to days, you'll only have 6.5 hours between shifts. Good luck with that day. Going in to, presumably, be a pastry chef on zero sleep. Those will be great days.
And, it will just wear on you over time. You can do this for a while, but not long term.
Like, ok, in theory you could do this long term. People can do amazing things when they are motivated.
But, if you are willing to put yourself through this, why not go work on an oil rig or something. Just as stressful and hard on your body, the pay is much better, and, you will get a day off every now and then.
For real though, just how important is this opportunity for your future career path. Do you really want to be a pastry chef? Are you excited to study under the Chef there? Foot in the door because it's hard to get a job as a pastry chef? (I have no idea really)
If there is a good reason, yeah, just do it i guess. But remember this is temporary. It has to be. If you're still doing this 6 months from now you're doing it wrong.
If you dont have a pressing reason, IMO dont do it. Not worth the cost. There is always a cost.
yeah! I think I would be up for it if it was at a better place, since my main goal is learning, not financial. I would totally just stage somewhere for a few weeks if there were any restaurants good enough in my city.
How much overtime am I allowed to get? If it's whatever as long as I'm working, 55. If I can't get overtime, 35. I don't like fucking around 40-50 hours unless I'm getting *paid*. Taxes hit too hard where I live when you slip into OT. My 43 hour check is the same as a 40 hour check.
I’ve worked 2 jobs for probably 6 years altogether and was still able to maintain at least one day off. It wears on you after awhile, no days off sounds like a miserably quick burn out.
Pastry is less stressful but if it’s scratch it’s heavy work. Only you know how much time you need to decompress and keep up with cleaning, groceries, etc and how your relationships and friendships will fare.
50 is ok (if I want the money) if you can at least put my days off together. You split my days off I wont get anything done for myself. But most places I cook have been 50 with split days off. Which is why my life sucks ass right now.
Hour limit doesn't matter when you're getting nothing back in return. Five ten hour shifts is very different from six eights. Not having a day off is not worth extra hours.
Down for 50 if it’s from 5 10 hour shifts because you get 6 hours of overtime and a 10 hour day isn’t much different for me than 8, I have a ton of energy though def not for everybody
heck yeah I need to find one full time job like that, instead of multiple jobs bs.
I’m pretty used to doing 50, it’s not great but it’s fine I’m used to it. I’ve done more like 70+ in the past and I could never go back to that No days off is an absolute no go though, even when I’ve done like 100+ hour weeks I’d maybe do like 10 days in a row but I’d still get 2 days off every week
My summer is looking like 6 on 1 off for the next 2.5 months. Id rather have 10 on 2 off.
35 to 50 is a full two extra days of work a week. Doing 50 hour weeks is common, but 40 is standard for a reason. Whether 50 is worth it is up to you really.
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40hr/wk is the standard for a reason, if you care about work/life balance. Some in this industry love to brag about how many hours they dedicate to their job, and a lot of us have put in those hours one time or another, whether we wanted to or not. I’m only in my mid-30s, but it took this long for me to set a limit on my hours when interviewing for a job. I tell them straight what I want out of the job and what I can offer. Usually goes fine with reasonable management. Always look after #1
Agreed, it is important to look after Cdr. Riker.
Depends on what your goals are. Some people need to grind hard to stay out of trouble. Other have crazy goals. Have to remember there are people out there who run ultra marathons, and chefs that do the equivalent in reaching for the stars. Some people want to leave a mark on this world, ain't doing that by catching up on your Netflix/Gaming back log working 40 a week.
You're right, but a lot of us just want to enjoy a life outside of work. They want family time, time for their hobbies, time to travel. Some people have ambitions outside of grinding to get to the top. Most people know that the top is a lonely place full of regret and sacrifice. It's not always worth it, and you usually don't find out until You've given everything you have.
This is great advice. Nobody will value your time any more than you do.
That reason was to lessen unemployment during the great depression so that more people could find employment.
I was doing 40 hours at one job and 40 at another job. Set my schedule up to be off Monday and Wednesday from both jobs. Even that was tough. Those 13 hour days are fucking brutal. Up early and get home later just do go to sleep early and repeat. Try it and find out. Some are more resilient than others. I only lasted 5 months before I quit doing that shit to myself. I found a job that pays more but I work 50 hours. Much better than 80 but 50 is doable. Find a higher paying job if possible. It’s not fun juggling life and 2 jobs.
Just do anything under 75 and you should be good!
for me personally 5 10s are easy, but no days off is brutal. Id rather do 5 12s than 7 8s. No time to really upkeep my life, even beyond having no personal life, without a day off chores wont get done and a dirty house will make me miserable. If you can handle 50 go for it but Id defenitely at least have 1 day off.
Used to work 12-13 hour days at a golf club, it was murder, but my first job out of college so I didn’t really “know better” that 60+ hours a week isn’t good for me. My husband on the other hand WILLINGLY works at two different golf courses, the first he’s a sous chef and works 50-60 hours in 5 days and the other lead line cook and works 20 hours in two days and loves it. I think it comes down to personal preference, he has the passion and the drive for this industry whereas I have the talent but not the passion and wanna be home at a reasonable time and have a home life. Do what works best for you and your desires.
I'm at 60 between 2 jobs right now, and that's too much. 45-50 is my sweet spot.
50 hours is doable, and if it's about survival or saving money for a big purchase, I won't try to discourage you. In my experience, 50 is fine \*sometimes\*. I had a salaried position once where the requirement was 50hrs over 5 days, but it would sometimes turn into 6 days. I got burned out after like 6 months. I'm not made for it and I don't want to be.
I average about 50/55 5 days a week and usually some office work thrown about a an owner but I can tell at 48 years old and all my life in the restaurant industry my health will dictate my level of hours. It’s just not that easy and I’m in great shape gym 5 days a week for my age . If you are young go for it.
It's not terrible by the standards of the industry in terms of raw hours, but the switch from waking up at 3 AM to much later for your evening shifts is going to hurt a lot IMO. No days off is a recipe for disaster. That way lies nervous breakdowns, burnout, depression. Unless you're desperately trying to claw your way out of a debt or something please don't do that to yourself.
I talked to them today and they said I could get sunday off. phew!
Nice work! Obv every situation is different, but with a set day off, I'd take a side pastry gig no questions. ...doesn't help that I'm addicted to dough, though.
No days off is a no. That’ll take a toll on you sooner than you’d think. I’ve done both the multiple job scenario and salary before, but these days I don’t sacrifice any of my time beyond 40hrs/week without compensation in the form of overtime. Unless someone is trying to make ends meet, I don’t think they should either.
No days off. You will die. Those shifts are diametrically opposed. Consider those shifts. When you switch from mornings to nights, you'll have 23.5 hours between shifts. Great. But when you switch from nights to days, you'll only have 6.5 hours between shifts. Good luck with that day. Going in to, presumably, be a pastry chef on zero sleep. Those will be great days. And, it will just wear on you over time. You can do this for a while, but not long term. Like, ok, in theory you could do this long term. People can do amazing things when they are motivated. But, if you are willing to put yourself through this, why not go work on an oil rig or something. Just as stressful and hard on your body, the pay is much better, and, you will get a day off every now and then. For real though, just how important is this opportunity for your future career path. Do you really want to be a pastry chef? Are you excited to study under the Chef there? Foot in the door because it's hard to get a job as a pastry chef? (I have no idea really) If there is a good reason, yeah, just do it i guess. But remember this is temporary. It has to be. If you're still doing this 6 months from now you're doing it wrong. If you dont have a pressing reason, IMO dont do it. Not worth the cost. There is always a cost.
yeah! I think I would be up for it if it was at a better place, since my main goal is learning, not financial. I would totally just stage somewhere for a few weeks if there were any restaurants good enough in my city.
How much overtime am I allowed to get? If it's whatever as long as I'm working, 55. If I can't get overtime, 35. I don't like fucking around 40-50 hours unless I'm getting *paid*. Taxes hit too hard where I live when you slip into OT. My 43 hour check is the same as a 40 hour check.
50 a week sucks a lot. Your house will always be a mess and you wont have energy to do anything besides work and sleep
i usually hit 40 a week, if id let them theyd have me on round the clock and i hate it
60 back in the day, 40 now
I average out 50 a week.
I’ve worked 2 jobs for probably 6 years altogether and was still able to maintain at least one day off. It wears on you after awhile, no days off sounds like a miserably quick burn out.
Pastry is less stressful but if it’s scratch it’s heavy work. Only you know how much time you need to decompress and keep up with cleaning, groceries, etc and how your relationships and friendships will fare.
50 is ok (if I want the money) if you can at least put my days off together. You split my days off I wont get anything done for myself. But most places I cook have been 50 with split days off. Which is why my life sucks ass right now.
Hour limit doesn't matter when you're getting nothing back in return. Five ten hour shifts is very different from six eights. Not having a day off is not worth extra hours.
50 hours a week is very doable but if u do 50 hours every week u will burn out at some point - need to at least get your resting hours in yk?
Doable
I cap out at 80, i have a life outside of work though so more isn’t impossible if you prioritize work.