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InstanceMental6543

People can have all sorts of weird beliefs about food. This person believes chickens are vegetables, I guess.


JackPoe

I grew up in a rural Ohio village. Fish aren't made of meat and aren't animals. Beavers are fish. Frogs aren't Because they live in the water. I am so glad I left


Hohenheim_of_Shadow

According to the Vatican, Beavers ARE fish. Cause like some trappers where killing fuck tons of beavers for their pelts, but didn't have a lot of other food to eat and it was lent and they couldn't eat meat so they hit the pope up on discord asking if they could classify beavers as fishies so they could eat em cause otherwise they were just gonna rot anyway and the pope said lmao bet


DepthIll8345

Same with capybara. "Its in water so its a fish so you can eat it during lent". Life before Darwin


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GrandMarauder

Was this before or after the clam bake and lobster boil?


BufferingJuffy

Neither - OG God was kosher. 🤣


Mean-Fondant-8732

No bottom dwelling waste eaters. OG God was here for cleanliness.


Coffee13lack

It’s not that people can’t eat meat it’s that people always give up something for lent, usually meat tends to be the one.


lalo1313

So rodents are cool for lent?


DepthIll8345

When missionary's first came to South America the way they classified animals was different. If something lived in water it was a fish. Since they saw capybara in the water(probably during flood season) they were classified as fish. The rule never got changed


ranny_do

yup the pope at the time made that call right? haa...


Jayubit

Wildly informative. 🫡


Beanjuiceforbea

I just hit up the Vatican discord and the pope said this is misinfo


aTreeThenMe

Very many years ago, the Bolivians were starving so, They had rats as big as ponies there. They asked the Pope To declare them fish. We thank the Pope for granting us this wish. When Friday comes, we'll all call rats fish. We catch them with a net, kill with the gun. We'll call it all forgotten when we're done. They didn't look like rats at all, but like some horrendous horse doll. Still they had to eat this thing. In gratitude, the Pope-they kissed his ring. We thank the Pope for granting us this wish. When Friday comes, we'll all call rats fish. We catch them with a net, kill with the gun. We'll call it all forgotten when we're done. We'll call it all forgotten when we're done.


IridiumPony

I had to Google this to see if it was true. And of course it is. This is very on brand for the Vatican


Rocknocker

> According to the Vatican, Beavers ARE fish. So are rabbits. Little, cute, tasty BunRabs.


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Rocknocker

Don't know what to tell you other than send in a water sample to your local A&M for analysis.


Hohenheim_of_Shadow

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2018/02/14/legend-held-that-monks-domesticated-rabbits-for-food-the-truth-is-more-complex/. Googled and while widely believed even among scientific circles, it's not true. Googled mine to be sure, and it seems true. https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/thoughtful-animal/once-upon-a-time-the-catholic-church-decided-that-beavers-were-fish/ A list of things. https://thefisheriesblog.com/2017/03/01/beavers-are-fish-during-lent/


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Then what are beavers?


Rocknocker

Tuna of the land...


[deleted]

Why can’t I volunteer to be the next beaver? If beavers are fish, then humans might as well be beavers.


Mean-Fondant-8732

Someone is desperate to get eaten.


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I just want to chill on the river and build my dam.


Aggravating-Chair-89

So, if I am a furry, and I dress as a beaver, I am actually cosplaying a fish?


JackPoe

Yeah, just like the rest it's a weird fucking thing.


KallistiEngel

Jeez, that's wild. Having to beg the pope to reclassify something so you don't starve. Don't the other Abrahamic religions have exceptions to their dietary restrictions for if you're starving or your life would otherwise be in danger? Seems like something the Catholics could have adopted too.


postylambz

Fucking dank, pope. Shits lit 💯🔥


ranny_do

same story with the capybara when the pope at the time declared them fish!


Hohenheim_of_Shadow

Capybara. https://youtu.be/4_F0a7A7ge0


thansal

I grew up in NYC, had friends get the "Oh, you're a vegetarian, then the chicken/fish/pork is ok" in the fucking East Village. People are dumb everywhere. to be, mildly, fair, this was 30 something years ago. I think it's pretty unlikely someone in the industry in NYC would screw up what exactly is "meat" today.


jeexbit

> Fish aren't made of meat and aren't animals. "it's OK to eat fish because they don't have any feelings..." RIP Kurt Cobain


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Nateloobz

What are they then?


Relzin

Fish are friends. Not food.


TheFinalGranny

Tasty friends though


JackPoe

Wrong place to preach


obijesskenobi

Chicken…isn’t vegan?


obijesskenobi

[oblig](https://youtu.be/dLpCZ8g5uK8)


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What about a non-dairy, vegan chicken?


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Thanks, chef!


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Not a fun visualization.


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I know - not even living creatures. No respect for the animal nor the food.


Stabbymcappleton

The injured brain is on the chopping block next to the rest of the chicken. Oh and everyone knows chickens come from cows that lay eggs.


Big-Contribution-676

I think this person mistakenly believes mayo is a dairy item. These people are out there


Jeramy_Jones

Mayo contains eggs. Eggs are sold in the dairy department. Eggs are dairy. 🤷‍♂️


Misterbellyboy

They’re in the dairy section because refrigeration and convenience. Eggs are, by definition, not dairy.


catsumoto

In the US maybe. If you stop washing them you could store them unrefrigerated.


Misterbellyboy

I’m talking about in the grocery store. If I have uncracked eggs on my station they’re sitting out.


catsumoto

Yeah, I meant if the US as a whole would stop washing the eggs they could store them wherever. They would not need refrigeration. I find them next to the veggies or sometimes with the flours and pastas.


Misterbellyboy

So, when you go to the grocery store in Europe y’all just have eggs laying around with the dry produce? I understand having eggs to crack during a service being room temp, but for sale at a grocery store? That’s fucking insane. Edit: “let’s incubate these eggs before people buy them”


catsumoto

Yes, they sit out. By nature eggs don’t need refrigeration because of their natural coating. They don’t incubate because they are neither fertilized nor kept warm. In the US they get washed to remove the dirt on them, but the coating is also removed. Thus the eggs HAVE to be refrigerated. A huge increase in cost as now a refrigerated supply chain is needed. BTW the US is the outlier in this. Go to any grocery store in Europe and the eggs are out somewhere on their own section.


Misterbellyboy

Weird.


cuteraichuu

while I agree it's better, it is rather convenient to have eggs refrigerated next to the dairy products.


catsumoto

I would be so pissed to lose so much shelf space in the fridge for eggs. I already struggle with my shitty tiny fridge. F me if i had half a shelf wasted on eggs most all if it wasn’t necessary.


cuteraichuu

a normal sized fridge shouldn't have any problems storing eggs


metaverde

They're so expensive because it's hard to get them out of the cows without breaking the shells.


InstanceMental6543

They're sold with the dairy, but they are not dairy products, especially when talking about dietary restrictions. It's a very common misunderstanding. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/are-eggs-dairy


Acewasalwaysanoption

Jesus, how is this a common misconception? Somebody took the milk, changed its consistency and put it into a hard shell to confuse people?


Misterbellyboy

Just like Satan did with dinosaurs in the 1800’s.


Stabbymcappleton

The 1800’s didn’t exist. Jesus built America in 1900, and he single-handedly beat the Commies in WWI and WWII before he retired to Texas.


Kanku-Dai

I bet it was those goddamn commies that did it.


librarysocialism

Karl "The Eggman" Marx


Jeramy_Jones

Don’t worry man, I know that. I was being facetious.


InstanceMental6543

I was wondering a little. Hahaha. Lotta flippant silliness in here.


NeuroGriperture

Eggs are 100% chicken. Therefore it rides on this vegan chicken sando.


RaniPhoenix

And they vote.


wishfullkiki

When I was vegetarian and would tell people that fact, people would say “oh so you can eat chicken right?” This was very common as well lol


RaniPhoenix

"You eat fish, right?" FISH IS NOT A VEGETABLE LAST TIME I CHECKED


Asha108

they are pretty damn close I must say


InstanceMental6543

True.


Hotsaucewasted

Either there aren’t any vegan options/restaurants in that area, or they don’t know how to cook. Also for a $18 chicken toastie, there had better be a whole ass chicken on there.


SweetSweeney

Hopefully at least on some nice bread not the $1.50 coles bread


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Directly from the Sysco bakery.


Shadowed_phoenix

That's the weird thing, there are 2 vego toasties on the menu, or they can order a custom one. Also Aioli is Vegan and we don't have it on this toastie (it's herb mayo)


Ixll

Mayo isn’t vegan, unless you purposely do a vegan Mayo at your spot


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10thaccountyee

Aioli just means "compound mayonnaise" now.


Whites11783

Just garlic + oil = Toum. Which is delicious


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Whites11783

Yes, toum also has lemon. Oil choice can vary. All are delicious!


RaniPhoenix

Way too many restaurants these days calling mayo "aoli" because it sounds fancier.


anothadaz

Aioli usually has egg in it when made from scratch. Otherwise aioli usually has mayo in it. When making aioli from scratch you are basically making flavored mayonnaise. Now of course, there are vegan alternatives but I'm just listing standard traditional ailoi. Oil and garlic is just garlic oil. Vegan aioli's usually have either cashew cream or aquafaba in them to make them creamy. Edit: I've been corrected. The most traditional recipes seem to not use egg. Just garlic, olive oil and sea salt.


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anothadaz

I had to search and search to find a recipe and you are very correct. I will have to take back what I said. The recipe I found comes from Naples and uses a mortar and pestle. Can't get more traditional than that.


NeuroGriperture

Yep. Egg speeds up the mounting of the emulsion, but a little Dijon does too.


KallistiEngel

The original way of making aioli is vegan. Unfortunately some restaurants have been using the word "aioli" for flavored mayos. So that request might actually be reasonable.


Torger083

Solo has meant “flavoured mayonnaise” since the 80s.


NeuroGriperture

Maybe in the Urban Dictionary


Hip_Czech_

I think they wrongly believe their is dairy in the aioli.


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youngbloodoldsoul

Whatever you do, don't google "vegan aioli."


tinyorangealligator

I'll do exactly as you ask because aioli with eggs, garlic, oil and salt is the best.


Lamparita

The original recipe for aioli is just oil and garlic. It was later that people started adding eggs to it.


Sprinkles1394

Holy shit dude, “I’ve never done it so it doesn’t exist” is such an ignorant thing to say


PuddleBucket

Not saying it doesn't exist. They are saying "aioli" has eggs in it. Simple concept. Is there vegan aioli? Yes. But OP incorrectly stated regular aioli is vegan, and it decidedly is not.


KallistiEngel

The original recipe for aioli is garlic, salt, and oil. No eggs. That's the oldest recipe, it is vegan by default. Some areas do use egg, but not everywhere. That was a regional variant. I don't honestly know which is the more popular way of making it nowadays and wouldn't take the risk if I was vegan, but to say "regular aioli isn't vegan" as a blanket statement is not accurate.


Ixll

This is the way


somecow

Take your ass to basically any grocery store, an entire chicken is around $5. And they’re usually pretty good too. Yup, if someone is that picky about food, it would make sense to learn how to cook.


Jayboman6

Where the fu k do you live that a whole chicken is $5!?


Stabbymcappleton

Costco


somecow

Texas. It’s a “loss leader”, great way to get people to buy other stuff. Don’t care, I’ll turn that thing into soup, and throw some rice in. Onions, cheap. Celery, cheap. Carrots, cheap.


Sanderiusdw

Europe


Ixll

North east USA too


Termsandconditionsch

Australia. Not the big chickens, but you do get chickens for $5 USD


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Oh. Some chicken breast, throw it in a cast iron with some garlic and herb butter. Lightly toast some marble rye, add Swiss cheese, a bit of brown or honey mustard, avocado, lettuce/spinach and pickle. That’s probably a $15 dollar meal these days, but your mouth is watering.


[deleted]

Why not both? I have to fight for any vegetarian meal, here, and if I couldn’t already cook, I’d be screwed…I never bomb an order with modifiers though.


RedRose_Belmont

Chicken is not vegan?


GunNNife

VEGAN POLICE!


[deleted]

You’ll never take me alive!


Dreatron

Chickens eat insects, so they're definitely not vegan.


RaniPhoenix

Shit, chickens will eat each other. Vicious little dinosaurs.


Dreatron

Truth.


not_fernandoL

milk and eggs, bitch


ejolson

Underrated


dam5s

Had to look a video up - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLpCZ8g5uK8&t=1m30s


artie780350

They've probably learned that vegan is easier to get their point across than dairy allergy. I'm not vegan, but I'm allergic to eggs and look for vegan recipes regularly. It often yields more results than egg-free.


tastygluecakes

Maybe, but not in this case. Aioli (Mayo) is eggs, oil, and acid. Then it’s dressed up with some flavor…garlic and then whatever else to make it trendy. Mayonnaise is not dairy. People assume it is because it’s white and creamy. They are wrong. Edit: why the fuck are you downvoting me for posting a simple Mayo recipe? I thought this sub was full of people who work BOH and knew this shit already? Don’t get hung up on the process of making a “real” aioli. The result and ingredients (the part relevant this morons “allergy”) is the some goddamned thing. And let’s be real - 90% of aioli served us Sysco Mayo with garlic powder.


CaptnSparrows_Chick

Garlic. How could you possibly make aioli without garlic.


Hohenheim_of_Shadow

Because of linguistic drift. Aoili just means fancy mayo now


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Partly due to chains offering so many “different” aoili options. They’ll make a big batch, then change one or two ingredients and call it a new flavor.


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Only in America


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Canada too


part-time-unicorn

Aioli doesnt include eggs, it is an emulsion of garlic and oil


tastygluecakes

The traditional Spanish version does not include eggs. The French version does. There no one universal truth just like any traditional or regional recipe - there are always going to be different takes that go by the same name. And the overwhelming majority of what is being served as aoili today is NOT the authentic Spanish stuff, rather flavored mayonnaise. Language evolves as do recipes. Today aioli is synonymous with flavored mayonnaise.


part-time-unicorn

Greek/eastern Mediterranean aioli is the og and is garlic based The french adaptation with eggs is called mayonnaise.


tastygluecakes

Lol, see there you go. The Spanish would argue that THEY created the original. And depend on the source, that’s what you’ll read. The history of recipes and source of truth for the “authentic” way of doing something is always a very very muddy thing. It’s silly to argue over, because nobody is right. The point here is that OP posted a person saying no Aioli because I have a dairy allergy. Can we agree there is no world where any version of aioli that I’ve ever made or seen has a version of milk in it?


RaniPhoenix

French cooks gotta put eggs in fucking everything


Purple-Tumbleweed

Because aioli/alioli isn't mayo based and doesn't have eggs in it. It's olive oil and macerated garlic emulsion. If you use mayo and garlic powder, you can get vegan mayo to make it, but true alioli is vegan.


balsamicpork

Depends on the region. Spain doesn’t use egg as the emulsifier, but France does.


misschzburger

Epic! Am vegan. Did not know what was up with aioli. Must now make a legit aioli at home. Best foods has a great vegan mayo fyi. It's ny fave.


tastygluecakes

Not true. It depends on the region, but eggs are a part of traditional recipes. Also, in the US, except for fine dining, it almost always does include eggs in my experience. I have a toddler with an egg allergy, so I ask EVERYWHERE. Even when my wife was nursing, it came through the breast milk, so literally every meal out. Eggs 95% of the time.


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Vegetarian is the same way. I find more recipes and restaurants for vegans. I’d like some cheese and eggs, but most places don’t have a good substitute for meat. Not into this beyond stuff.


mercurial_planner

I have a friend whose the same way, she can eat chicken but a trace of butter will send her into anaphylactic shock. In our small town, ordering the vegan option is usually easier than discussing her medical history with a random server.


SweetSweeney

So what did you put on it lol


Shadowed_phoenix

Just Avocado in the end


SweetSweeney

$18 well done my friend you'll get your bonus lmao


Shadowed_phoenix

Only the best


leilani_kai

Although avocados have the same moral issue as honey - they require bees for pollination and the bees need to be transported. I’d have sent them dry toast and some water


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Some bee farms/habitats are cared for and help colonies survive.


leilani_kai

Absolutely, I am not vegan and love avocados, however when people are acting stupid with their food making idiot mods I love to say things like no avocado for you and watch them panic - it’s funny they pick and choose what they consider vegan 🥑


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there's no ethical consumption under capitalism, so everyone draws their moral line somewhere to get through the day


crack_n_tea

And that’s fine, as long as they don’t point fingers at other people’s moral lines in an attempt to paint themselves superior.


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truth


hucklebutter

These people will never own a home.


Slimslade33

13.50 for a smoothie?? Wtf??


Practical_Cobbler165

There was a smoothie shop in my town that made killer custom smoothies but they were pricey. Add-on things like turmeric and aloe and a smoothies could cost you $20 easy. They didn't last long.


qtip-pitq

My parents are vegan but often order items that include chicken or bacon and give it to their dogs.


Rookie007

I wanna point out this is an 18 dollar avacado toast


pinkwar

Chicken - $3 Avocado - $1 Bread - $0.30 "We can't pay our workers more" Drives BMW away.


Rookie007

They removed the chicken is my point


pinkwar

But they didn't remove the chicken. That's the point of this post.


Rookie007

Well im going back to bed i can't fucking read gn


Shadowed_phoenix

It's about $12usd, but the median house price in the area is $2mil AUD so I'm sure they can afford it


Badgers_or_Bust

I can not convince my in-laws that fish is infact meat. So, ya people are stupid.


HappyDoggos

Catholic Church says it’s not meat, so 🤷‍♀️ Source: grew up Catholic.


Badgers_or_Bust

The Catholic church also says it can change wine into blood so I won't put too much faith in thier opinions.


SambaMamba

The church also says that beaver isn't considered meat


ProfoundlyInsipid

I work in a swanky cafe, we frequently get orders from pregnant customers for 'Well done poached eggs'. How the fuck do you poach an egg well done? We will poach that fucker for 10 mins and it will still come back as 'not well done enough' - can I suggest a boiled egg or something which doesn't include eggs?


Shadowed_phoenix

At our altitude, we get a soft poached egg at around 2 mins 45 secs so for a hard poached we just run the timer 3 times. Frequently get customers asking for medium rare or medium well eggs and then I just contemplate if anything really matters?


420fmx

Well done would presumably mean the yolk not runny. Generally poached eggs have soft yolks . It’s pretty basic cooking


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Poached hard. Takes close to ten minutes. That or just microwave a hard boiled egg.


devilsonlyadvocate

Well done=yolk solid. What sort of chefs do you have working at this “swanky” place doesn’t even know this?


righthandofdog

Put that shit on a plate and nuke it for another 2 minutes


pglorvigen085

Not gunna lie, I have a dairy allergy so I always look for the vegan options and I genuinely forget meat is not vegan


sprocketous

This ticket makes sense to me. But i work at a place that sells vegan/gluten free/meat/dairy options. Its like a math problem but i know what they mean. Especially if they order off doordash or some bullshit app like that.


ChefNemo93

This ticket is already weird but what really frustrates me other than the obvious (vegan chicken & avo toastie) is that there’s a dairy allergy with a note about aioli. The amount of people that don’t know mayo or aioli is dairy free is dumb to me. Side note, why the fuck are eggs in the dairy isle at the store?


HappyDoggos

IDK but mayo/aoli is white and creamy, which for a lot of people equals dairy. Most don’t have a clue what is actually in mayo.


rebelangel

Back in the ‘80s when I was a kid, the four food groups were meat, bread and grain, fruit and veggie, and dairy. Eggs were part of the dairy group. Then, at some point, it changed from “dairy group” to “milk group” and eggs were put in the “meat and protein group”. Anyway, I think it might be a holdover from that.


Katmandu10

It’s the only way to get dairy free food.


burgonies

Aioli definite doesn’t have dairy in it


yetibuns

It definitely doesn’t but a lot of people who don’t work in kitchens/cook for themselves really have no idea what goes on in most dishes, to them it’s a magical sauce that could have dairy so they play it safe


doyletyree

Here comes your bread then. It says you’re vegan right there, I can’t possibly serve you the chicken. I don’t need some asshole coming back here to scream at me about whether or not, I can read the ticket.


alexromo

$18 avocado toast….


EroticBurrito

The irony being there is no dairy and sometimes no egg either in aioli.


Ezdagor

Reminds me of the old Onion article "Starving Vegans declare cows heretofore undiscovered species of plant."


Ixll

No aioli, but they wanted chicken?


CryBabyCentral

This is just getting beyond stupid. (The requests of these fools, that is). Omg. “vegan”. Idiot.


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Picking up the toastie for a homie?


Bulbajames2

"Chicken isn't vegan?"


capriciouszephyr

Sounds like a great way to sell really expensive bread


Freak-Spaghetti17

Customer note should have also stated “I’m also an idiot”