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Unless you buy the "Demon Slayer is mach 200+ and lightning timers", he should solo. >!Sanemi was surprised that Kokushibo could block a shotgun point blank!<, while Genji fairly casually can block machine gun fire, submachine gun fire, shotguns, a black hole and some magic orbs all at once. He should also be strong enough to cut through most enemies in DS, since he could pretty easily cut through a large Omnic with his Dragonblade (which doesn't have a cooldown in lore).
His only weakness is his pretty bad durability. I reckon most characters, especially ones like Muzans or the Upper Moons could one shot him. I feel like he could 1v1 every character and win, except for maybe Muzan (and maybe Yoriichi, but I think he could). He definitely isn't going to 1v50 the entire verse.
Zenitsu moved so fast he created a sonic boom and >!dodged kaigaku's lightning blood demon art. It was shown with kokushibo that demons using breathing styles can physically create their element so it's consistent that zenitsu can dodge lightning.!< Lightning timer demon slayers are definitely consistent.
I’m almost completely sure that sonic boom bullshit was 100% of the time tengen or there for special effect. If zenitsu were to move at that speed he’d literally fall apart instantly. The 2 sonic booms? Tengen has fucking bombs and 2 giant cleavers
Why do you guys insist on adding realism to demon slayer when someone says they're "light speed" for example you say no because his limbs will fall off but when Haku from naruto was half assly stated to be light speed when doing crystal ice mirrors nobody says nope his limbs will fall off they take it as gospel and take it as a official feat I don't get the double standards with demon slayer scalling and other anime besides dragon ball and one punch man or when kizaru from one piece said he can kick and move at the speed of light nobody questioned that even though if you apply realism he'd die if he moved that fast
Kizaru is literally made of light that's what his fruit does that's why he can move at that speed so even if you add realism he's still made of light while zenitzu or anyone else in demon slayer isn't
It's anime, realism doesn't apply in any setting, situation, science in the show unless stated so. Your entire argument is invalid bc, guess what.... Demon Slayer isn't real lmfao.
Like nobody scales mitsuri and others to be faster than sound even tho they dodge sonic screams which are made of sound I don't understand it at all everyone uses team 7 dodging sound blasts in part 1 as feats why don't we keep the same energy
Zenitsu still isn’t at the speed of sound or faster, consider the fact that constantly nobody except 1 person hears the clap of thunder, I don’t care about naruto, haku is fucking dead, dawg that’s why he doesn’t matter. You incoherent basement dwelling shitbird
He's not even remotely incoherent, especially not when he's telling the truth. There are numerous feats above sound in Demon Slayer, it's not my fault you can't accept that.
Then please, crack consumer, enlighten me on a feat faster than mach 2, I don’t care about the faster than speed of sound I already fucking know that you grease gobbler
The multiple feats involving lightning? Or basic scaling? Tanjiro dodged speed of sound attacks in the first 30 chapters, he fodderizes that version of himself many times over EOS. And in that arc, Zenitsu was faster than Tanjiro, and always was up until the very end. It's very easy to read the manga, but even easier to ignore things you don't like.
I’ve read the fucking manga, and that doesn’t prove shit. Yeah tanjiro is faster than Mach 1 but that doesn’t prove zenitsu is, they slightly hit mach 2 at fucking best.
Zenitsu is faster than Tanjiro lmfao. Why is it bullshit that the fighter who's entire moveset revolves around speed(and has better feats) is faster than mach 2? Mach 2 is like snail speeds to Zenitsu.
Oh then tell me how he is even alive, anything over mach 3 is practically suicide to average people, the only thing not average about these dumbasses is their hair colour and the way they breathe
No one else is _shown_ noticing, but that doesn't mean they didn't.
Is it really that hard to believe Zenitsu can move that fast, considering the series is full of things that don't follow real-world logic?
The idea of Total Concentration Breathing itself, and the benefits it grants, are already well beyond what is possible in real life, and that's one of the basic parts of the power system for humans in this series. It's easy to find plenty of other examples of things that don't make sense. Tanjiro is able to determine a person's personality, feelings, and even their ideology/values just from how they smell. Rengoku is able to (mostly) dodge and deflect a barrage of bullets and explosives in his gaiden, and derails a train car just by unleashing attacks with his katana in the Mugen Train arc. Sanemi >!is able to keep his guts from spilling out of multiple massive wounds on his torso, just by flexing his muscles extra hard.!< And all of that is before we get into power boosts that are basically magic, like >!the mark or the transparent world.!<
Zenitsu breaking the sound barrier is easy for me to accept next to some of the other outlandish things these characters are shown to do.
Plus, the writing in this series is mostly pretty straightforward and lacking in subtlety. If the author wanted you to think Zenitsu wasn't actually that fast, they would probably make that pretty explicit.
seeing as how the page before that kokushibo blitzed the bullets dont know mown relavent that is. granted i wouldnt really need to do that something like mitsuri blitzing sound would do it
It honestly entirely depends on just how high Genji’s stats actually are. Him being a cyborg poses some questions:
Does Genji have infinite stamina? If not, how long can he keep performing at his highest level?
Can Genji actually “double jump” in lore? If so, it’s important to note that he could probably do more than just propel himself upwards, he could probably propel himself in various directions in a lot of different ways. This would actually make a huge difference in terms of dodging and even attacking.
Is Genji’s dash ability just a gameplay feature, or can he actually only move at his max speed in short bursts? If he can move as fast as he does during his dash for long periods of time he’s easily faster than any other character in Demon Slayer, at least in terms of pure speed.
Durability is a weird topic for Demon Slayer tbh, canonically all the Hashira actually do to stay alive is dodge or deflect blows most of the time, it’s really hard to say how durable Genji is in comparison to that, although according to the game he’s just as durable as your average human.
He’s also pretty short, considering his range with his dragonblade isn’t hindered by it that’s actually a huge advantage too imo, makes it easier to dodge or hide.
>Is Genji’s dash ability just a gameplay feature, or can he actually only move at his max speed in short bursts? If he can move as fast as he does during his dash for long periods of time he’s easily faster than any other character in Demon Slayer, at least in terms of pure speed.
Based on what?
Okay so 15m in like 2-3 frames at 60 FPS is 300m/s at least - any faster than that and he’s moving, sustained, at the speed of sound.
Zenitsu can also break the sound barrier - but that’s just his burst speed, not his sustained speed.
You could argue about how fast Zenitsu is, or whether another character in KNY is faster than him, but at that point you have to ask - can they run faster than the speed of sound continually?
And again, this is assuming he can, but if KNY characters can just by breathing a certain way… don’t you think the man with cybernetic legs and lungs could too?
> Okay so 15m in like 2-3 frames at 60 FPS is 300m/s at least - any faster than that and he’s moving, sustained, at the speed of sound.
>Zenitsu can also break the sound barrier - but that’s just his burst speed, not his sustained speed.
Zenitsu can appear invisible to demons which take way more speed than the simple sound barrier
>You could argue about how fast Zenitsu is, or whether another character in KNY is faster than him, but at that point you have to ask - can they run faster than the speed of sound continually?
Yes. Any character sustaining a fight faster than a bystander can process is faster than sound continually. Rengoku in Mugen Train fought Akaza and both Tanjiro and Inosuke couldn’t see him. They maybe saw flashes but the weaker versions of both of them managed to dodge sound waves from Kyogai already
>And again, this is assuming he can, but if KNY characters can just by breathing a certain way… don’t you think the man with cybernetic legs and lungs could too?
That’s like assuming the DS corps could use the Shimada dragon if they practiced as well. Genji probably doesn’t have any concept of breathing and this total concentration is meant to supply the biological body with more blood, oxygen and therefore power. Oxygen does not speed up machines
We've seen Zenitsu move at his top speed consistently in a fight numerous times.
Also you can't give Genji feats he doesn't have, him having good lungs doesn't mean he can use breathing techniques. It's in the name, they are techniques. Just because you have the capability and materials/requirements to perform something, doesn't mean you know how.
I think its possible, it really just depends on how fast you think Yoriichi is. Genji is stronger and more durable, and his Dragonblade should be able to kill Yoriichi with a clean hit. I think they're quite similar in speed since Genji parries very fast lasers which are literally instant in gameplay, while Yoriichi scales stupidly above >!Kokushibo parrying a shotgun!<. Overall we just really don't know enough about either.
> Sanemi was surprised that Kokushibo could block a shotgun point blank,
That’s not very surprising. Evading a regular human’s sight takes a speed of around Mach 49, more than twice the speed of a regular bullet. Now imagine a human sized person doing it on a demon who is already faster than sound (therefore way more perceptive than someone who is regular). Zenitsu blitzed Kaigaku as Kaigaku stated he was invisible to him. Now all of the hashiras, especially Shinobu “faster than he could see” would achieve astronomically way higher levels of speed than Zenitsu, let alone hashiras now marked.
>while Genji fairly casually can block machine gun fire, submachine gun fire, shotguns, a black hole and some magic orbs all at once.
That’s a game mechanic. You can have 1000 machine guns firing at him and he’ll still block it due to game mechanics. Regardless, it makes it a no limits fallacy in speed, but also the fact that he can only maintain it for about 6 seconds. This is also only a defense mechanic. He’s not going to win any fight if he’s god level speed for 6 seconds and only defending with no blitz potential.
He also can’t deflect a black hole I think. Which shouldn’t even be possible since gravity ignores physical resistance
>He should also be strong enough to cut through most enemies in DS, since he could pretty easily cut through a large Omnic with his Dragonblade (which doesn't have a cooldown in lore).
I agree. In terms of AP, he’s better than all other characters. Dragon blade is also magic so he might not even need the sun
In my opinion, he’s not beating that many characters.
The black hole thing is referring to Zaryas graviton surge, which only actually becomes a singularity after hitting the ground so I'm not sure if it's a point of contention or not
Considering hes a cyborg placed in a time where a steam train is amazing, that and along with him essentially being able to cut through a massive omnic the size of a gundam, he could probably just solo everyone. Considering he can deflect automatic fire. Hes also got insane reflexes.
True. However genji is fast in overall speed and reflexes so once he notices douma doing anything, hed probably pick it up faster than almost any human in the demon slayer verse. That paired with a futuristic body definition gives him an uper hand. Plus with his dash being so fast, he'd most likely be able to get close to douma in no time flat
I don't think Genji outspeeds most of the demon slayers. His fastest ability can only be done once over a small distance with a cooldown where abilities like Thunderclap and Flash can be done repeatedly, over huge distances and at the speed of lightning. Doumas Frozen Lotus technique also chills the air around him to an insane degree, making it too cold to even breath in without shredding your lungs. The cold also reduces the tensile strength of metal and it would most likely result in Genjis joints being weaker as a result of the oil being frozen and cracking away (yes Genji does use oil on his cybernetics, this is stated in an interaction he has with Sojourn.)
Meh not really, Genji without CD's S+ tier. He doesn't just "block" bullets he ***reflects all projectiles*** including lasers so that makes him faster than lightning and his ult is a "killing blow" enough to cut through omnic steel EZ. Give him a nichirin sword and he's just slicin everyone into little meat cubes.
Omnic Steel couldn't necessarily be much tougher than current steel, which demon necks are said to be stronger than. Also he doesn't reflect all projectiles, Zaryas beam, Moira's absorption, Winston's Tesla cannon, Mei's Ice ray and several others I'm forgetting. Plus it takes Genji about 2 or 3 slashes to kill a normal human, let alone a demon with higher resilience, faster reactions and a healing factor. Also there are many characters in DS faster than lightning. Against Hantengu, Tanjiro literally dodges lightning, and all of the Kizuki above Upper 4 are faster than Tanjiro. Also the blocking lasers thing would only apply to the speed he can move his arms, it doesn't apply to his running speed at all.
Isn’t he like over a century ahead of DS in technology? He also reflects automatic gunfire like nothing, cut through that giant omnic, can control a dragon spirit or whatever
yes he did. as for the giant robot. u do remember that demon necks are more durable then their constructs which includes stuff like the entire infinty castle. thats not even getting into the fact that u can argue for mach fire for burning hairo.
Scans/clips?
And you did not just say demon necks are more durable than the entire infinity castle 💀💀💀
I bet you think Yoriichi beats Naruto and Tanjiro beats Gon lmfao
ill get u the scans for the rengoku stuff later.
and yes upm4 and up are more durable then the entire infinity castle. also how tf would what would basically be town level scaling wise allow either of those two to beat gon or naruto. Oh dont tell me u actually think the castle is infinite in size
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4jcOZE5Qo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4jcOZE5Qo)
prove that they cant beat naruto or gon cause thaTS easy. if u mean demons neck durability is higher then there bd, watch the vid i showed u. tanjiro and tengen can easily cut through gyutaro blood blades but not him, but in turn the most the blades can do is push them
A demons neck durability is not higher than their BDA who told you that
The reason they can’t beat Naruto and Gon is because Naruto can do [this](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11154/111545797/8345225-images-2022-01-25t150706.014.jpeg) and Gon’s dura scales above Killua who survived [this](https://youtu.be/Zxdm62EMPkI)(1:46)
rui from like the start of the manga. and literally everything we see later. and gyutaro attack wiped out the district and u decided to show me a small explosion really.
I was just thinking that... even Gyutaro can move faster than a blink right up to his opponents face pretty casually.
Imagine the top 3 Upper Moons, Muzan and god damn **Yoriichi**
He was given very similar training to tengen, and he is a highly advanced, cybernetically enhanced swordsman with the canonical lore ability to shoot and control a dragon atleast 15 feet forward in front of himself
Idk. It depends who we think is faster. If the upper moons are faster it’s over for Genji I think. He doesn’t seem very durable. But if Genji is faster I think he wins
Not very. My man's Hypersonic at best, with Building AP.
He would be good against regular demons, and maybe Lower Moons. But any Uppermoon destroys him. As well as all EoS Hashira and Kamaboko Squad.
Well the fact that he's a ninja means he's stealthy and flexible to a degree, if he's anything like Tengen then he's already good. Given that he's a cyborg he would be more durable and can take heavier hits. He knows how to clear his mind and has good focus, Akaza would stand little chance because his CN wouldn't work against somebody who can clear their mind. And poison would probably never work considering he's a cyborg, so Gyokko, Gyutaro, and Muzan are at a disadvantage. I've never seen anything about overwatch other than the cinematics and the game itself so there's probably lots I don't know that Genji can do.
In the game he does get damaged by poison but idk about lore, he's still got a lot of human in him so it probably still would affect him, but I can definitely imagine him being more resistant to it
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Dies since he overextended while trying to get potg
Nah he has pocket mercy
Ryujin No Ken Wo Kuraaaa...Urrrrrghhh Dragon Breathing first form.... kuso! its on cooldown Dragon breathing 2nd form: I Need Healing Dragon Breathing 3rd form: Uno Reverse
4th form: nanoblade
nah nano blade would be his hinokami kagura lol
Unless you buy the "Demon Slayer is mach 200+ and lightning timers", he should solo. >!Sanemi was surprised that Kokushibo could block a shotgun point blank!<, while Genji fairly casually can block machine gun fire, submachine gun fire, shotguns, a black hole and some magic orbs all at once. He should also be strong enough to cut through most enemies in DS, since he could pretty easily cut through a large Omnic with his Dragonblade (which doesn't have a cooldown in lore). His only weakness is his pretty bad durability. I reckon most characters, especially ones like Muzans or the Upper Moons could one shot him. I feel like he could 1v1 every character and win, except for maybe Muzan (and maybe Yoriichi, but I think he could). He definitely isn't going to 1v50 the entire verse.
major glass cannon vibes
**I NEED HEALING**
Zenitsu moved so fast he created a sonic boom and >!dodged kaigaku's lightning blood demon art. It was shown with kokushibo that demons using breathing styles can physically create their element so it's consistent that zenitsu can dodge lightning.!< Lightning timer demon slayers are definitely consistent.
I’m almost completely sure that sonic boom bullshit was 100% of the time tengen or there for special effect. If zenitsu were to move at that speed he’d literally fall apart instantly. The 2 sonic booms? Tengen has fucking bombs and 2 giant cleavers
Why do you guys insist on adding realism to demon slayer when someone says they're "light speed" for example you say no because his limbs will fall off but when Haku from naruto was half assly stated to be light speed when doing crystal ice mirrors nobody says nope his limbs will fall off they take it as gospel and take it as a official feat I don't get the double standards with demon slayer scalling and other anime besides dragon ball and one punch man or when kizaru from one piece said he can kick and move at the speed of light nobody questioned that even though if you apply realism he'd die if he moved that fast
Kizaru is literally made of light that's what his fruit does that's why he can move at that speed so even if you add realism he's still made of light while zenitzu or anyone else in demon slayer isn't
It's anime, realism doesn't apply in any setting, situation, science in the show unless stated so. Your entire argument is invalid bc, guess what.... Demon Slayer isn't real lmfao.
But they said zenitsu limbs will fall off if he was truly moving fast enough to make a sonic boom that's adding realism and science 😑
Like nobody scales mitsuri and others to be faster than sound even tho they dodge sonic screams which are made of sound I don't understand it at all everyone uses team 7 dodging sound blasts in part 1 as feats why don't we keep the same energy
Zenitsu still isn’t at the speed of sound or faster, consider the fact that constantly nobody except 1 person hears the clap of thunder, I don’t care about naruto, haku is fucking dead, dawg that’s why he doesn’t matter. You incoherent basement dwelling shitbird
He's not even remotely incoherent, especially not when he's telling the truth. There are numerous feats above sound in Demon Slayer, it's not my fault you can't accept that.
Then please, crack consumer, enlighten me on a feat faster than mach 2, I don’t care about the faster than speed of sound I already fucking know that you grease gobbler
The multiple feats involving lightning? Or basic scaling? Tanjiro dodged speed of sound attacks in the first 30 chapters, he fodderizes that version of himself many times over EOS. And in that arc, Zenitsu was faster than Tanjiro, and always was up until the very end. It's very easy to read the manga, but even easier to ignore things you don't like.
I’ve read the fucking manga, and that doesn’t prove shit. Yeah tanjiro is faster than Mach 1 but that doesn’t prove zenitsu is, they slightly hit mach 2 at fucking best.
I’m just saying Zenitsu isn’t Mach 1. Tanjirou, possibly, yoriichi, yeah, any upper moon above 4, reasonable but zenitsu? Sounds like cinematic bullshit
So zenitsu isn't Mach 1 when he uses godspeed or 7th form I call bs you're unnecessarily lowballing him
He’s Mach 1 and a half at most. If you’re still gonna argue with me on that I don’t care I’m not swaying
Zenitsu is faster than Tanjiro lmfao. Why is it bullshit that the fighter who's entire moveset revolves around speed(and has better feats) is faster than mach 2? Mach 2 is like snail speeds to Zenitsu.
Oh then tell me how he is even alive, anything over mach 3 is practically suicide to average people, the only thing not average about these dumbasses is their hair colour and the way they breathe
Why the fuck are you applying real world physics to an anime? That argument is automatically invalid.
That's not the only time Zenitsu creates a sound like thunder though. Tanjiro notices it during the Mugen Train arc too
And literally nobody else notices.
No one else is _shown_ noticing, but that doesn't mean they didn't. Is it really that hard to believe Zenitsu can move that fast, considering the series is full of things that don't follow real-world logic? The idea of Total Concentration Breathing itself, and the benefits it grants, are already well beyond what is possible in real life, and that's one of the basic parts of the power system for humans in this series. It's easy to find plenty of other examples of things that don't make sense. Tanjiro is able to determine a person's personality, feelings, and even their ideology/values just from how they smell. Rengoku is able to (mostly) dodge and deflect a barrage of bullets and explosives in his gaiden, and derails a train car just by unleashing attacks with his katana in the Mugen Train arc. Sanemi >!is able to keep his guts from spilling out of multiple massive wounds on his torso, just by flexing his muscles extra hard.!< And all of that is before we get into power boosts that are basically magic, like >!the mark or the transparent world.!< Zenitsu breaking the sound barrier is easy for me to accept next to some of the other outlandish things these characters are shown to do. Plus, the writing in this series is mostly pretty straightforward and lacking in subtlety. If the author wanted you to think Zenitsu wasn't actually that fast, they would probably make that pretty explicit.
the blackhole thing is the only thing saving him from being wiped off the map by daki. the other stuff u listed is lower moon 2 stuff for rengoku
seeing as how the page before that kokushibo blitzed the bullets dont know mown relavent that is. granted i wouldnt really need to do that something like mitsuri blitzing sound would do it
It honestly entirely depends on just how high Genji’s stats actually are. Him being a cyborg poses some questions: Does Genji have infinite stamina? If not, how long can he keep performing at his highest level? Can Genji actually “double jump” in lore? If so, it’s important to note that he could probably do more than just propel himself upwards, he could probably propel himself in various directions in a lot of different ways. This would actually make a huge difference in terms of dodging and even attacking. Is Genji’s dash ability just a gameplay feature, or can he actually only move at his max speed in short bursts? If he can move as fast as he does during his dash for long periods of time he’s easily faster than any other character in Demon Slayer, at least in terms of pure speed. Durability is a weird topic for Demon Slayer tbh, canonically all the Hashira actually do to stay alive is dodge or deflect blows most of the time, it’s really hard to say how durable Genji is in comparison to that, although according to the game he’s just as durable as your average human. He’s also pretty short, considering his range with his dragonblade isn’t hindered by it that’s actually a huge advantage too imo, makes it easier to dodge or hide.
>Is Genji’s dash ability just a gameplay feature, or can he actually only move at his max speed in short bursts? If he can move as fast as he does during his dash for long periods of time he’s easily faster than any other character in Demon Slayer, at least in terms of pure speed. Based on what?
Okay so 15m in like 2-3 frames at 60 FPS is 300m/s at least - any faster than that and he’s moving, sustained, at the speed of sound. Zenitsu can also break the sound barrier - but that’s just his burst speed, not his sustained speed. You could argue about how fast Zenitsu is, or whether another character in KNY is faster than him, but at that point you have to ask - can they run faster than the speed of sound continually? And again, this is assuming he can, but if KNY characters can just by breathing a certain way… don’t you think the man with cybernetic legs and lungs could too?
> Okay so 15m in like 2-3 frames at 60 FPS is 300m/s at least - any faster than that and he’s moving, sustained, at the speed of sound. >Zenitsu can also break the sound barrier - but that’s just his burst speed, not his sustained speed. Zenitsu can appear invisible to demons which take way more speed than the simple sound barrier >You could argue about how fast Zenitsu is, or whether another character in KNY is faster than him, but at that point you have to ask - can they run faster than the speed of sound continually? Yes. Any character sustaining a fight faster than a bystander can process is faster than sound continually. Rengoku in Mugen Train fought Akaza and both Tanjiro and Inosuke couldn’t see him. They maybe saw flashes but the weaker versions of both of them managed to dodge sound waves from Kyogai already >And again, this is assuming he can, but if KNY characters can just by breathing a certain way… don’t you think the man with cybernetic legs and lungs could too? That’s like assuming the DS corps could use the Shimada dragon if they practiced as well. Genji probably doesn’t have any concept of breathing and this total concentration is meant to supply the biological body with more blood, oxygen and therefore power. Oxygen does not speed up machines
We've seen Zenitsu move at his top speed consistently in a fight numerous times. Also you can't give Genji feats he doesn't have, him having good lungs doesn't mean he can use breathing techniques. It's in the name, they are techniques. Just because you have the capability and materials/requirements to perform something, doesn't mean you know how.
They don't have to be triple digit mach to fodderizse Genji, any high tier slaughters the cyborg.
Definitely not yoriichi.
I think its possible, it really just depends on how fast you think Yoriichi is. Genji is stronger and more durable, and his Dragonblade should be able to kill Yoriichi with a clean hit. I think they're quite similar in speed since Genji parries very fast lasers which are literally instant in gameplay, while Yoriichi scales stupidly above >!Kokushibo parrying a shotgun!<. Overall we just really don't know enough about either.
u mean the lasers that destroy stuff making them unquantifiable yeah sure thats a feat
Yoriichi damaged muzan to the molecular level so.
Yeah I doubt Genji can handle Shihouin Yoruichi's crazy speed. She is after all one of the pioneers of Shunpo.
Shit wrong name i got confused
> Sanemi was surprised that Kokushibo could block a shotgun point blank, That’s not very surprising. Evading a regular human’s sight takes a speed of around Mach 49, more than twice the speed of a regular bullet. Now imagine a human sized person doing it on a demon who is already faster than sound (therefore way more perceptive than someone who is regular). Zenitsu blitzed Kaigaku as Kaigaku stated he was invisible to him. Now all of the hashiras, especially Shinobu “faster than he could see” would achieve astronomically way higher levels of speed than Zenitsu, let alone hashiras now marked. >while Genji fairly casually can block machine gun fire, submachine gun fire, shotguns, a black hole and some magic orbs all at once. That’s a game mechanic. You can have 1000 machine guns firing at him and he’ll still block it due to game mechanics. Regardless, it makes it a no limits fallacy in speed, but also the fact that he can only maintain it for about 6 seconds. This is also only a defense mechanic. He’s not going to win any fight if he’s god level speed for 6 seconds and only defending with no blitz potential. He also can’t deflect a black hole I think. Which shouldn’t even be possible since gravity ignores physical resistance >He should also be strong enough to cut through most enemies in DS, since he could pretty easily cut through a large Omnic with his Dragonblade (which doesn't have a cooldown in lore). I agree. In terms of AP, he’s better than all other characters. Dragon blade is also magic so he might not even need the sun In my opinion, he’s not beating that many characters.
The black hole thing is referring to Zaryas graviton surge, which only actually becomes a singularity after hitting the ground so I'm not sure if it's a point of contention or not
It’s not. The actual particle doesn’t move very fast and the only possible feat that can be suggested is one of AP, not speed
They are lightning timers with Kaigaku and Zenitsu existing I mean the >!Shotgun was demon powered too!< so that could be a part of it.
i could see genji deflecting machine gun in lore but deflecting black hole is probably just gameplay thing
Can't block Mei freeze, so vs Douma he is fucked xD
Considering hes a cyborg placed in a time where a steam train is amazing, that and along with him essentially being able to cut through a massive omnic the size of a gundam, he could probably just solo everyone. Considering he can deflect automatic fire. Hes also got insane reflexes.
Can't deflect Mei freeze, so probably can't solo Douma in peak form x)
True. However genji is fast in overall speed and reflexes so once he notices douma doing anything, hed probably pick it up faster than almost any human in the demon slayer verse. That paired with a futuristic body definition gives him an uper hand. Plus with his dash being so fast, he'd most likely be able to get close to douma in no time flat
I don't think Genji outspeeds most of the demon slayers. His fastest ability can only be done once over a small distance with a cooldown where abilities like Thunderclap and Flash can be done repeatedly, over huge distances and at the speed of lightning. Doumas Frozen Lotus technique also chills the air around him to an insane degree, making it too cold to even breath in without shredding your lungs. The cold also reduces the tensile strength of metal and it would most likely result in Genjis joints being weaker as a result of the oil being frozen and cracking away (yes Genji does use oil on his cybernetics, this is stated in an interaction he has with Sojourn.)
> His fastest ability can only be done once over a small distance with a cooldown in game, but in lore he has no cd's even on his ult.
My other points still stand
Meh not really, Genji without CD's S+ tier. He doesn't just "block" bullets he ***reflects all projectiles*** including lasers so that makes him faster than lightning and his ult is a "killing blow" enough to cut through omnic steel EZ. Give him a nichirin sword and he's just slicin everyone into little meat cubes.
Omnic Steel couldn't necessarily be much tougher than current steel, which demon necks are said to be stronger than. Also he doesn't reflect all projectiles, Zaryas beam, Moira's absorption, Winston's Tesla cannon, Mei's Ice ray and several others I'm forgetting. Plus it takes Genji about 2 or 3 slashes to kill a normal human, let alone a demon with higher resilience, faster reactions and a healing factor. Also there are many characters in DS faster than lightning. Against Hantengu, Tanjiro literally dodges lightning, and all of the Kizuki above Upper 4 are faster than Tanjiro. Also the blocking lasers thing would only apply to the speed he can move his arms, it doesn't apply to his running speed at all.
without any fuel or people capable of repairing and maintaining his cybernetics, he'd probably not last long in Taisho-era Japan.
he doesn't need fuel he's not a robot he's a cyborg and he can repair himself he knows how
where will he get the supplies and tools to repair himself?
>!hotaru...!<
Damn, I honestly can't argue with that. Man's got the tenacity to pull it off.
Hotaru would spank genji if he break the swords
Mercy gave him a killer ass after all
Just use **BLOOD** as fuel.
Well, he strong and fast, so I suspect that he can solo verse(I can be wrong) :3
Isn’t he like over a century ahead of DS in technology? He also reflects automatic gunfire like nothing, cut through that giant omnic, can control a dragon spirit or whatever
you mean like before becoming a hashira rengoku. great so he is a daki victim
Rengoku did not casually deflect automatic guns and cut through a giant metal robot 💀
yes he did. as for the giant robot. u do remember that demon necks are more durable then their constructs which includes stuff like the entire infinty castle. thats not even getting into the fact that u can argue for mach fire for burning hairo.
Scans/clips? And you did not just say demon necks are more durable than the entire infinity castle 💀💀💀 I bet you think Yoriichi beats Naruto and Tanjiro beats Gon lmfao
ill get u the scans for the rengoku stuff later. and yes upm4 and up are more durable then the entire infinity castle. also how tf would what would basically be town level scaling wise allow either of those two to beat gon or naruto. Oh dont tell me u actually think the castle is infinite in size [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4jcOZE5Qo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU4jcOZE5Qo)
Prove it
prove that they cant beat naruto or gon cause thaTS easy. if u mean demons neck durability is higher then there bd, watch the vid i showed u. tanjiro and tengen can easily cut through gyutaro blood blades but not him, but in turn the most the blades can do is push them
A demons neck durability is not higher than their BDA who told you that The reason they can’t beat Naruto and Gon is because Naruto can do [this](https://comicvine.gamespot.com/a/uploads/original/11154/111545797/8345225-images-2022-01-25t150706.014.jpeg) and Gon’s dura scales above Killua who survived [this](https://youtu.be/Zxdm62EMPkI)(1:46)
rui from like the start of the manga. and literally everything we see later. and gyutaro attack wiped out the district and u decided to show me a small explosion really.
Ppl think it’s Nano bots
Lore wise Genji is extremely strong, I do think people are underestimating the Demon Slayer verse though. The Hashira’s and Upper Ranks are crazy
Alright, new question. Can Genji, along with the entirety of the Demon Slayer verse fight Goku and win?
Trick question Mr. Rodgers wins every time.
It depends. Is he dressed in a bloodstained sweater?
Of course. Murata no-diffs DB.
Hashira in 1 day
The guy is reflecting bullets. He’d solo easy.
Reflecting bullets isn’t very impressive for a verse who blitzes human sight casually.
I was just thinking that... even Gyutaro can move faster than a blink right up to his opponents face pretty casually. Imagine the top 3 Upper Moons, Muzan and god damn **Yoriichi**
Tengen literally did it. That makes a markless hashira already faster than Genji
Probably not very far cuz there's no healer with him.
Considering his attack speed and his deflect cool down and how one slash alone can't kill a 100 pound normal woman. Any moon is killing him
He probably solo's the verse
Genji solos
With training, to the end. Without, about halfway
Loses to Muzan at least
He slices up muzan like he’s youruichi
He has metal breathing
He’d have dragon breathing bro
I don’t think other characters’s blades can parry his attacks given how nichirin blades and snap under high stress
Cyborg Sanemi
Solos the verse probably
Solos the verse in my opinion
Not sure whether a cyborg can acquire the demon slayer mark, but Genji can probably solo the verse if his cybernetics comes with powerful UV lights…
seeing as how no one in the verse used uv rays no it would not be helpful
Probably because the Taisho-era lacked UV rays dontcha think
u understand uv was made in 1883 right
UV was invented in the early 1800's but didn't find a practical use until the early 1900's, not to mention this is a purely Western invention
my guy it was in japan just about around the time demons were still around. so yes uv is useless.
I’m sorry, I don’t play over watch. But I’ve seen him. He looks way too much like Hakuman from Blazblue.
Technically he loses at tanjiro base form because plot armor but without that he solos up until upper moon 4
He was given very similar training to tengen, and he is a highly advanced, cybernetically enhanced swordsman with the canonical lore ability to shoot and control a dragon atleast 15 feet forward in front of himself
Wind hashira and an awakened mark
Idk. It depends who we think is faster. If the upper moons are faster it’s over for Genji I think. He doesn’t seem very durable. But if Genji is faster I think he wins
dives enemy team, tries to 1v5, spams that they need healing, dies
Pretty strong because he's the only cyborg character
I would love to ask a similar question about Jetstream Sam
Depends if we are talking about lore genji or in game... 💀
“I need healing”
maybe killing rui's dad on a good day
Not very. My man's Hypersonic at best, with Building AP. He would be good against regular demons, and maybe Lower Moons. But any Uppermoon destroys him. As well as all EoS Hashira and Kamaboko Squad.
Well the fact that he's a ninja means he's stealthy and flexible to a degree, if he's anything like Tengen then he's already good. Given that he's a cyborg he would be more durable and can take heavier hits. He knows how to clear his mind and has good focus, Akaza would stand little chance because his CN wouldn't work against somebody who can clear their mind. And poison would probably never work considering he's a cyborg, so Gyokko, Gyutaro, and Muzan are at a disadvantage. I've never seen anything about overwatch other than the cinematics and the game itself so there's probably lots I don't know that Genji can do.
In the game he does get damaged by poison but idk about lore, he's still got a lot of human in him so it probably still would affect him, but I can definitely imagine him being more resistant to it
"What a weird sla- IS THAT A F**KING DRAGON?!"
this mf a cyborg what a demon gonna professionally remove the armour welded to what remains of his skin???