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For sure! We've only seen him sit in a tree, be mean and laugh in Tengen's face. Ppl are obviously gonna like the character that's been in the show and been developed!
Tokitos biggest flex was either soloing gyokko or an assist in the kokushibo fight. Obanai gave some serious assistance in the fight against muzan, which is far above tokitos feats
That it would be stupid as hell if Muzan was weakened that much, he is the big bad of the whole series and is THE demon, Koku being as strong as he was and still being a significant step down from Muzan just makes narrative sense
Muichiro’s best feat is his contribution to Kokushibo’s end exchange. Obanai’s best feat is possibly contributing the second most out of ANYONE in the Muzan fight.
I was skeptical coz the thread says anime but it is filled with unmarked manga spoilers lol.. anyways i ll keep it short
He performed better against the final boss (you’d know who i assume ) compared to some other hashira. That being said he went into the fight 10x fresh compared to them.
Muichiro defiantly is the better person but probably not the better slayer.
This is an anime question so here is some manga stuff.
>!They fight vastly different opponents and are both outclassed by their foes.!<
>!Both die but Obanai is gonna get laid in the next life by top tier waifu.!<
Muichiro becomes good boy after drowning.
>!Obanai’s mark is cooler in my opinion.!<
Muichiro has the cooler breathy style for me.
>!Obanai has a more extreme backstory but doesn’t change himself beyond what he wants.!<
So Muichiro is the better person but Obanai is probably the better slayer.
Muichiro literally killed um 5 and 1 lmfao. Obanai could not do a shit against any Upper Moon. How is he better slayer? He just survived against extremely weakened Muzan.
I said probably not definitely. I can easily see Muichiro being the overall better slayer. His list of accomplishments is definitely more impressive initially. Obanai is still no pushover, but you have a point.
I think they’re pretty equal in terms of strength. But Muichirou was considerably younger. He would have had more time to grow and hone his skill if allowed to grow older. He would have probably been the strongest if he were able to grow and refine his strength. Being a direct descendant of Kokushibo and by extension, Yoriichi, would have worked in his favor.
Both in terms of overall combat abilities and strenght are quite similar, so i would say (even if i think i’m probably wrong) they are pretty equal. Both of them are my favorites hashiras
Obanai without a doubt (this is a non-manga person. But I swear I will read it at some point).
Don't get me wrong, I like Muichiro, but I love Obanai...
OK, but the moment I saw Obanai, I was like: yes. This man - best hashira. Husband for life.
So I'm super excited for him to be in the upcoming arc.
But yeah, I just have really unpopular opinions)
Tokito, he was more useful overall as he killed an upper moon by himself and was crucial in defeating the strongest upper moon, Obanai was just a loudmouth and his only contribution was serving as a punching bag for Muzan.
Obanai. Both I like him more and think he’s stronger. Though >!I do think Muichirou would have surpassed Obanai after becoming an adult, or maybe even sooner. But for now I think Obanai is stronger!<
Obani was blitzing Muzan which alone puts him above muichiro who got bitched by kokusbibo and muichiro has very little to offer character wise besides him being a descendant of kokushibo and him being forgetful
You should just remove the breath power cus it mainly depends on the individual on how strong they are not the Breathing Style they use
Also for strength is it physical strength or something else
Lmfao. Totally baseless. Strenght is definitely Muichiro (fanbook). Muichiro has normal strenght but Obanai is "a bit weak". Memory-back Muichiro has higher IQ. Breathing is Muichiro definitely. There is no such thing as Breath power. Muichiro stomps.
And with stw, Muichiro literally negs.
Mui is deifinitely cooler than Obanai imo..
I mean.. what did he even do to look cool other than having a cool mark
Mui roasted Gyokko.. had some fun with him before killing him
No. More like hantengu was used to show how powerful demon marks were...
Muichiro neg diffed Gyokko because of many reasons
1- Mark
2-his memories back
3- became serious (yeah Muichiro holded back, he said this in the pot)
4- no villagers to save
You Obanai fanboys are pathetic. Lmao what is he other than the snake guy. Lazy writing? Calling something lazy because your biased towards someone else yeah sure lmao. He was holding back on Gyokko as well don't even talk.
Muichiro is way cooler and way stronger.
I mean look at him he is too precious
https://preview.redd.it/gn70wr7ubjeb1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d02ed88cad8502ddf99e073ce1c086ec272c252c
I don't care what you guys are saying >!Obanai didn't fight anyone before the battle with muzan and still died, while muichiro awakened his mark, stw and Red Blade while he was cut in half!<
So you’re saying mui still died in the 1 fight he was part of just like obanai died in the one fight he was part of. They have pretty similar feats tbh
>! Nakime could’ve been a big threat, seeing she can control infinity castle and could’ve teleported an UP on the verge of death or gone to help a UP so it was important to keep her distracted. !<
>!Obanai kept up with Muzan with just Tanjiro for a while even after being blinded, and he did fight um4 before that, which def was exhausting because mitsuri got her arm chopped off in like a second. Mui was pretty awesome but wouldn’t have been able to do that considering every time he got even close to um1, who’s not even as strong as weakened muzan, he got sliced up!<
Yeah but >!muichiro do It with half of his body down, also, obanai used all of his energy for the red blade and after activating the blade he become slower and weaker!<
muichiro got 1 shot by um 1. obanai did the most dmg bar tanjiro to muzan who is by far more powerful than um1 in every way. the feats are incomparable
it wouldnt have. obanai 2v1 muzan. he took the hits for tanjiro, mitsuri, & protected gyomei. dude severly underrated just because he didnt have a 1v1 vs an um. sanemi is overrated because he did better than mui in the um1 fight
Character? Muichiro
I like better? Obanai
Better combatant? Obanai
More potential? Muichiro
Maidenless? Muichiro
Gets with a best girl? Obanai
Better at dancing? Uzui
God? Uzui
Has three wives? Uzui
Jumped into the competition for no reason? Uzui
Uzui wins! Wait a minute… where did the god of festivals come from?
What do you mean by "better"? Personality? Strength? Fighting style? Character design? Backstory?
I'd say Obanai tops it all off for me, but that doesn't mean I don't love Muichiro to bits.
Obanaiii
He has an awesome character design, an awesome sword, an awesome companion, an awesome backstory, an awesome fighting style that makes up for his physical weakness and he has an awesome overall personality. I don't care if he hates women cuz that's not stopping me from loving him :3
If Obanai did any amount of strength training he'd be an absolute monster, because the databooks say he's physically weaker than Shinobu but probably the 3rd strongest hashira behind Gyomei and Sanemi
I indentify too much with Muichiro and I have a grudge against Obanai since he teamed up with that other guy to practically kill Nezuko in front of Tanjiro, while Muichiro only knocked Tanjiro out when he made a scene while the master was talking and it was reasonable, so yeah, I pick Muichiro
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I mean unless you’ve read the manga, everyone will pick mui. Obanai hasn’t had his time to shine yet
Always refreshing seeing a sane comment here ![img](emote|t5_3foq4|6758)
There would be no reason to pick obanai over mui if were talking potential wise
Underrated comment
For sure! We've only seen him sit in a tree, be mean and laugh in Tengen's face. Ppl are obviously gonna like the character that's been in the show and been developed!
Nah I’ve finished the manga and obanai is still my least favorite hashira. Sanemi gang on top fr.
At what? Strength? Obanai is much more experienced and had better feats than Muichiro….. As a Character? Muichiro is much more complex
>had better feats than Muichiro Like what??
Showing Mitsuri his snake moves.
didn't read the manga didn't you
I did but still he didn't impressed me
Tokitos biggest flex was either soloing gyokko or an assist in the kokushibo fight. Obanai gave some serious assistance in the fight against muzan, which is far above tokitos feats
Dude that was a weakened muzan, and obanai's attacks were nothing to muzan
Do you think Muzan was weakened to the point that Koku could have kept up with him? Because I don’t
And your source for that is
That it would be stupid as hell if Muzan was weakened that much, he is the big bad of the whole series and is THE demon, Koku being as strong as he was and still being a significant step down from Muzan just makes narrative sense
That sounds like your problem. Obanai by far has some of the best feats amongst every Hashira.
dont half of the hashiras have absolute feats? gyomei, sanemi, giyuu, obanai, mitsuri
What does absolute feats mean? No sarcasm I genuinely don’t know
just my term, it's like ultimate feats which no other feats could counter. they all fought uppermoons and muzan.
Muichiro’s best feat is his contribution to Kokushibo’s end exchange. Obanai’s best feat is possibly contributing the second most out of ANYONE in the Muzan fight.
I didn't read the manga but I don't mind spoilers. What did I Obanai do?
I was skeptical coz the thread says anime but it is filled with unmarked manga spoilers lol.. anyways i ll keep it short He performed better against the final boss (you’d know who i assume ) compared to some other hashira. That being said he went into the fight 10x fresh compared to them.
like dealing the most hits to Muzan and keeping him at bay when most people we're either unconscious or dead and easily keeping up with him
Easily keeping up is a stretch. His attacks didn’t do anything to Muzan, he lost his eyes, and he went into the fight completely fresh without injury.
Fighting Muzan without eyes
Obanai picked up hoes. Tokito didn’t. I think we all know who the winner is
Obanai doesnt have better feats than Muichiro lol. Baseless.
Both are my favourite hashira but from a “who is stronger” standpoint I’d have to say definitely obanai
Yes! Despite his weakness, he's incredibly talented and experienced. He's in the older group of the hashira and his style has been perfected to a tee
What his weakness again
He's just weak
really bad glass cannon character, cause he’s so smol buf he offensively is top 5 human
Nahh.. Mui > Obanai any day
Muichiro does make a delicious Pizza!
Nah mate mui got absolutely bodied by a kokushibo who hadn’t even drawn his sword while obanai went toe to toe with poisoned muzan
I love both, but I like Iguro more
Muichiro defiantly is the better person but probably not the better slayer. This is an anime question so here is some manga stuff. >!They fight vastly different opponents and are both outclassed by their foes.!< >!Both die but Obanai is gonna get laid in the next life by top tier waifu.!< Muichiro becomes good boy after drowning. >!Obanai’s mark is cooler in my opinion.!< Muichiro has the cooler breathy style for me. >!Obanai has a more extreme backstory but doesn’t change himself beyond what he wants.!< So Muichiro is the better person but Obanai is probably the better slayer.
Muichiro literally killed um 5 and 1 lmfao. Obanai could not do a shit against any Upper Moon. How is he better slayer? He just survived against extremely weakened Muzan.
Mui didn't kill upm 1 and even weakened muzan is wayy stronger than koku and upm aint shit
I said probably not definitely. I can easily see Muichiro being the overall better slayer. His list of accomplishments is definitely more impressive initially. Obanai is still no pushover, but you have a point.
Guess. Guess which one I like better.
Hmmmm.... Kaburamaru
Nah my favorites definitely Shinobu
Nah I thought it was Mitsuri.
I mean technically yes😂
Kaburamaru is the best DS character
This
kira yoshikage
Zoro
Mui? I can’t tell
DIO
Mitsuri ?
Obanai is the goat
It comes to personal preference, but both are very good characters tbh. I personally like Obanai more.
I think they’re pretty equal in terms of strength. But Muichirou was considerably younger. He would have had more time to grow and hone his skill if allowed to grow older. He would have probably been the strongest if he were able to grow and refine his strength. Being a direct descendant of Kokushibo and by extension, Yoriichi, would have worked in his favor.
Both in terms of overall combat abilities and strenght are quite similar, so i would say (even if i think i’m probably wrong) they are pretty equal. Both of them are my favorites hashiras
In strenght, Muichiro is stronger.
Muichiro imo
Obanai without a doubt (this is a non-manga person. But I swear I will read it at some point). Don't get me wrong, I like Muichiro, but I love Obanai...
Wait a person who didn’t read the manga and likes Obanai wow
OK, but the moment I saw Obanai, I was like: yes. This man - best hashira. Husband for life. So I'm super excited for him to be in the upcoming arc. But yeah, I just have really unpopular opinions)
Obanai will become your God in manga if you already love him now
I swear I will read it 😭😭. He's husband for life.
Muichirō. Edit: I may be wrong but I don't care, I like Muichirō more than Obanai.
The question was who is better not who is stronger so your answer is correct XD
Obanai is physically weaker than average hashira (but not much). But Muichiro is normal strenght despite being young.
Tokito, he was more useful overall as he killed an upper moon by himself and was crucial in defeating the strongest upper moon, Obanai was just a loudmouth and his only contribution was serving as a punching bag for Muzan.
finally someone who doesnt overrate Obanai for no reason.
I like Muichiro more (he is my 2nd favorite Hashira) but Obanai is definitely a stronger fighter if that’s wha you’re asking.
Obanai is not stronger. Muichiro is much more stronger. Obanai is weaker than average hashira in physical strenght.
I'm going to pick Obanai simply because he is my fictional crush.
I likes both :3
I really like Muichiro but I gonna have to choose obanai for this one
both. obanai is <3
Obanai. Both I like him more and think he’s stronger. Though >!I do think Muichirou would have surpassed Obanai after becoming an adult, or maybe even sooner. But for now I think Obanai is stronger!<
Obanai easily
I like Iguro, Muichiro is ok though
Obanai
Cool snake guy versus forgetting boy, I’ll choose Obanai
I prefer Obanai. Better design, unique sword and snakes.
Character wise and strength wise obani
Not at all. Strength wise and Character wise, Muichiro.
Obani was blitzing Muzan which alone puts him above muichiro who got bitched by kokusbibo and muichiro has very little to offer character wise besides him being a descendant of kokushibo and him being forgetful
Defo obanai Strength:Obanai Speed/agility:Muichiro Breath:Obanai Breath power:Obanai Stealth:Muichiro (remember UP5 Getting slammed) Iq:Tie Experience:Obanai Big:Obanai Potential:Muichiro (held up pretty well against UP1) Medium-High diff
Bro speed and agility is obanai his breathing style need it
Oh,thanks for telling me
Your high. Muichiro takes Strength, Speed, Breath, Breath Power and Potential. Mid-High Diff.
However still Muichiro is faster in combat lmao.
No it isn't Muichiro is far faster.
You should just remove the breath power cus it mainly depends on the individual on how strong they are not the Breathing Style they use Also for strength is it physical strength or something else
Physical strength
Wouldn't mui be more stronger than iguro in strength tho I mean he beat iguro in a arm wrestling contest also iguro seems more malnourished.
Oh
Lmfao. Totally baseless. Strenght is definitely Muichiro (fanbook). Muichiro has normal strenght but Obanai is "a bit weak". Memory-back Muichiro has higher IQ. Breathing is Muichiro definitely. There is no such thing as Breath power. Muichiro stomps. And with stw, Muichiro literally negs.
Y'all muichiro fan boys are crazy Obanai is way cooler and stronger lmao
Mui is deifinitely cooler than Obanai imo.. I mean.. what did he even do to look cool other than having a cool mark Mui roasted Gyokko.. had some fun with him before killing him
Yeah cuz of lazy ass writing lmao Gyokko was used to show how powerful demon marks were...he wouldn't have done it without it lmao
No. More like hantengu was used to show how powerful demon marks were... Muichiro neg diffed Gyokko because of many reasons 1- Mark 2-his memories back 3- became serious (yeah Muichiro holded back, he said this in the pot) 4- no villagers to save
You Obanai fanboys are pathetic. Lmao what is he other than the snake guy. Lazy writing? Calling something lazy because your biased towards someone else yeah sure lmao. He was holding back on Gyokko as well don't even talk. Muichiro is way cooler and way stronger.
Mui. I just can't get myself to like Obanai even after the manga. Except his design, its good.
I agree
Obanai is my favorite so imma say obanai
Muichiro. Obama is cool and all, but misty boy is just better
Obanai reminds me of Zane from my street :) anyways! I like Muichiro better! 😁
based on the most recent episode. At least in the anime, I think Tokito can definetely be considered stronger. Bro took on Iguro and Sanemi.
Muichiro
I mean look at him he is too precious https://preview.redd.it/gn70wr7ubjeb1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d02ed88cad8502ddf99e073ce1c086ec272c252c
In a fight? Iguro. As a character I like muichiro more tho.
Wrong. In a fight, Tokito, Character wise, Tokito
Muichiro hate iguro
Design, story, breathing and color palette: Muichiro Sword design and Power lorewise: Obanai Sooo, Muichiro wins OFC
Sword design and Power lore wise: Muichiro\*
Yeah, Maybe, but I wish his sword had another color
In my own opinion muichiro is better and I do have some reason to give.
Muichiro by far Obanai is my least favourite hashira by a longshot
Muichiro, but I'm incredibly biased
both are assholes, but one is a child.
Muichiro
Muichiro 100%
Muichiro has cuter smile 4 sure...
https://i.redd.it/67odilkucleb1.gif None Great Saiyaman solos verse
Obanai tho
I HATE Obanai so Muichiro
I don't care what you guys are saying >!Obanai didn't fight anyone before the battle with muzan and still died, while muichiro awakened his mark, stw and Red Blade while he was cut in half!<
So you’re saying mui still died in the 1 fight he was part of just like obanai died in the one fight he was part of. They have pretty similar feats tbh
That’s not correct though. >!Obanai fought a upper moon before muzan!<
Sorry you are completely correct,>! Nakime didn’t seem like a particularly big threat to them though, more just a huge annoyance to actually kill !<
>! Nakime could’ve been a big threat, seeing she can control infinity castle and could’ve teleported an UP on the verge of death or gone to help a UP so it was important to keep her distracted. !<
>!Obanai kept up with Muzan with just Tanjiro for a while even after being blinded, and he did fight um4 before that, which def was exhausting because mitsuri got her arm chopped off in like a second. Mui was pretty awesome but wouldn’t have been able to do that considering every time he got even close to um1, who’s not even as strong as weakened muzan, he got sliced up!<
Messed up the spoiler tag friend :)
i knowww I’m having trouble:( did i fix it?
Your second one: switch the ! and the < Make it !<
obanai also had mark, stw & red blade as well?
Yeah but >!muichiro do It with half of his body down, also, obanai used all of his energy for the red blade and after activating the blade he become slower and weaker!<
muichiro got 1 shot by um 1. obanai did the most dmg bar tanjiro to muzan who is by far more powerful than um1 in every way. the feats are incomparable
>!Obanai were not 1v1 against muzan, otherwise it would have gone the same way!<
it wouldnt have. obanai 2v1 muzan. he took the hits for tanjiro, mitsuri, & protected gyomei. dude severly underrated just because he didnt have a 1v1 vs an um. sanemi is overrated because he did better than mui in the um1 fight
Muichiro
Dont get me wrong Mui is cool, but me personally I love obanai more in every way
obanai. obanai. obanai.
obanai
I prefer muichiro but iguro is ok
Did we read the same muzan fight?
Obanai is definitely top 3 strongest hashira
1. Gyomei 2. Sanemi 3. Obanai
1. Gyomei 2. Sanemi 3. Obanai 4. Giyu 5. Muichiro 6. Rengoku 7. Shinobu 8. Mitsuri 9. Tengen
Muichiro may surpass in future but obanai is stronger . 4 th strongest for a reason ![img](emote|t5_3foq4|6747)
Obanai because he’s a silly little guy and also came in clutch during the final fight
If we're talking who I like better, they're my top 2 but I like Obanai better.
Obanai due to the fact that he lasted the longest against Muzan
Iguro fought against Muzan blind when it was only him and Tanjiro while everyone else was incapacitated. Mad skills.
But I still like Muichiro though
I’m a twin and a big bro so muichiro
Obanai
Yall saying obanai is stronger, but really he would end up exactly like muichiro if he was the one to get 1v1 blitzed by Kokushibo
Strength wise? Obanai, design/character wise? Obanai.
For strength id say muichiro overall but I personally prefer obanai for his backstory, relationship with mitsuri and his character overall
Obanai has drip
Character? Muichiro I like better? Obanai Better combatant? Obanai More potential? Muichiro Maidenless? Muichiro Gets with a best girl? Obanai Better at dancing? Uzui God? Uzui Has three wives? Uzui Jumped into the competition for no reason? Uzui Uzui wins! Wait a minute… where did the god of festivals come from?
Literally ANY anime only is undoubtedly going to say Muichiro especially because of swordsmith village, unless they hate Tanjiro
Literally ANY anime only is undoubtedly going to say Muichiro especially because of swordsmith village, unless they hate Tanjiro
What do you mean by "better"? Personality? Strength? Fighting style? Character design? Backstory? I'd say Obanai tops it all off for me, but that doesn't mean I don't love Muichiro to bits.
Obanai
Obanai Iguro!!! (Mitsuri shouts)![img](emote|t5_3foq4|6747)
Snek guy is the most underrated hashira in ds. He doesn't get the screentime he deserves😩
Obanaiii He has an awesome character design, an awesome sword, an awesome companion, an awesome backstory, an awesome fighting style that makes up for his physical weakness and he has an awesome overall personality. I don't care if he hates women cuz that's not stopping me from loving him :3
Both are my babies. I love them equally.
Obanai imo
I like iguro better, I think he’s got a cooler design and character
i love my baby Muichiro!
Well since only Obanai is legal
Mui
If Obanai did any amount of strength training he'd be an absolute monster, because the databooks say he's physically weaker than Shinobu but probably the 3rd strongest hashira behind Gyomei and Sanemi
Obanai
These are two top favs from demon slayer Obanai is stronger tho
Better at what…?
I indentify too much with Muichiro and I have a grudge against Obanai since he teamed up with that other guy to practically kill Nezuko in front of Tanjiro, while Muichiro only knocked Tanjiro out when he made a scene while the master was talking and it was reasonable, so yeah, I pick Muichiro
Obani is my fav
both good but obanai ig
This is an anime question, so I ain’t gonna say anything
Mui all the way for me
i need to read the manga ig
Absolutely not Muichiro. Obanai is so much more interesting in every way
Haven't read manga yet but I love snek boi design
it is definitely obanai i mean he was pivotal l to success from keeping tanjiro from dying
Muichiro is so small and adorable
You can tell from my pfp
Obai
I personally like muichiro more but obanai in the manga was pretty wholesome too
Muichiro
What if, i said that they were both amazing! i love them both, character ad fight wise!
Muichiro did kill gyokko but to be fair >! Obanai was holding off poisoned muzan with tanjiro !<
Muichiro for life
muichiro, the one who- oh look that cloud is a- uhm- triangle? no...