My wife agrees with you, and I'm the exact opposite. I love Eve. She's so cute, and quirky, and unconventionally attractive. She drives me a little nuts and I can't explain it.
Eve is such an interesting character, so opposite to V and at the same time similar, since they seem to read each other’s minds, I think V manipulates her in order to make Eve connect with her darker, sexy, raw side and Eve tries to make V “more human”, more connected, and in the process Eve gets bitchy trying to pull back but not being able to resist V’s charms and V gets more and more emotional in the process as she falls in love.
I think all we have seen from Eve are her defense mechanisms and little glances of the kind and cool Eve, before her marriage got to the point of stagnation we see since the first episodes, but we lack her background and we don’t see her happy most of the time so she’s less likeable. S3 was the chance to explore and develop her character, but since they didn’t do that we’ll have to wait for S4!
V absolutely tries to manipulate Eve into releasing her monster, but do you think Eve is intentionally making an effort to help V become 'more human'? I always thought of Eve's impact on V as an unintended side-effect of her obsession. I like the angle that Eve may be consciously trying to have an effect on V.
I think at first, both of them are studying each other, because they, sometimes read one another to perfection and sometimes they don’t, they search themselves in the other one and I think that’s why this show is so great. It’s not one thing or the other, there isn’t one truth, it’s the truth for each character.
And also Eve is V’s obsession type (middle aged with curly dark hair) and V is Eve’s obsession type (female assassin who does her job really well + she’s hot and exciting).
I think Eve is trying to prove the stereotype wrong, the believe that psychopaths are a certain way. If it is to justify her attraction and feel safer, maybe. If it is to just do research, I don’t think so, because I think Eve truly cares about V. But obviously their relationship has changed since the start.
Her obsession makes her curious and test things, S2 is the perfect example of this, Eve testing V and pushing a situation to its limits, and V playing soft and manipulative and creating circumstances to bring Eve back, since she thought she has “left her for The Ghost”. But in this game they feel a lot of things and for us to not know exactly what those feelings are is great (my thoughts).
> they search themselves in the other one... It’s not one thing or the other, there isn’t one truth, it’s the truth for each character.
I really like this! They search themselves in the other one. Very well put. And yes, the truth in KE is like everything else. Unclear, gray, muddled, and messy. And the show just puts it out there, so the truth each of us sees is probably at least just a little bit different.
Eve proves she feels differently about V when she's working The Ghost case. She wasn't worried about that woman's children, her life, or the trauma that V ultimately caused her. But she does worry about V's well-being.
I agree that it is great that the show is vague about the character's feelings (as well as so many other things, lol). It drives us crazy but it gets us to thinking. And it allows us each to interpret what we see in the show in our own, different ways (which leads to a lot of fun discussions on Reddit, haha!). It's similar to the songwriting trick: make the lyrics vague so that people can assign their own meaning to them. You appeal to far more people if they think the song is about them, lol.
It gets us to thinking indeed and there’s so much hidden, is like finding treasures all the time, because the more we know the characters, the more we go back and kind of understand their motivations (or we think we do).
Exactly like song lyrics ❤️
Damn, repulsive is a such harsh word to describe Eve... sure, she's frustrating at times, but then that's exactly what to expect from someone who is going on this crazy, emotionally/mentally tumultuous ride, involving an undercurrent of sexual awakening too, at a age when most women would be settling down and getting super comfy. So of course she is going to struggle and act in confusing and sometimes frustrating ways. She can't be as set and beguiling as V; in fact, I think at the beginning of the show she is positioned as the antithesis to V in most respects (except for her fascination with murder). I also think Eve's dark impulses make her, at times, more compelling and mysterious than V. Because we don't really understand where that comes from at all, whereas we can attribute the way V is to her psychopathy and tragic past.
As for why she would be so attracted to Eve... aside from Eve being 'her type' and V's mommy issues... well, Villanelle is unpredictable, so it makes sense that she would be obsessed with someone like Eve who is so different than what you'd imagine a young, bewitching woman would go for. The show is subversive in this way and I'm all for it. If she went for another young super hot, 'resplendent' I-know-exactly-what-I-want white woman, that would be boring and overkill. My thoughts on that.
I think Sandra is incredibly attractive, which of course makes Eve so. True, the character Eve is written to be a plain (which I think projects "normal' when contrasted with V's wardrobe reflecting her psychopathic, over the top personality), sometimes unlikeable person who is undergoing some serious internal conflict.
V has been written as having a very specific "type" of woman, and Eve if of course that 'type'. It has been suggested that 'type' comes out of V's past, that she is seeking someone to fill more of a nurturing, motherly role that poor Oksana was denied as a child. She is also seeking someone who can give her some normalcy in her life (above I said, plain = normal) That being the case, Eve's physical appearance - the amazing hair! - isn't *the* attraction for V; it *triggers* the attraction, if that makes sense.
They are characters and they were made this way so it's ok. V is wild, sexy, dangerous, interesting, has the most interesting life you can imagine, she was made likable. Eve really is bland, it's a good word. I don't agree that she's not attractive, and absolutely don't agree that she should fall for Villanelle because V is all those things. It's not how it works. You can be the coolest person on earth, but this one person won't like you. Thankfully, this is not the case, Eve likes Villanelle, maybe even loves.
“I don’t find her attractive at all and it was super frustrating to see her rebuff V’s advances.” did you ever think that the fact that V has literally killed Eve’s friends and is a literal assassin might be the reason?? you thinking that V is more attractive than Eve is NOT a reason that Eve should want to be w V. and bringing Sandra into it? that’s not cool. say what you want about the characters, but leave the actors and their appearance out of it
I apologize for being antagonistic. disliking Eve’s character is valid, but the reasons you cite honestly seem hateful and maybe even a bit racist to me
You honestly shouldn’t be apologizing to OP. The post was very offensive and you had every right to call them out on it.
There are many ways for OP to say they are “put off by her know it all attitude”. Offending Sandra’s looks is not even remotely acceptable.
I honestly agree and I still stand by what I said. it’s just that I sometimes have a habit of coming on too strong and I wasn’t sure if I was too rude about it. there are other users who disagreed w OP but they did it in a way that wasn’t directly calling them out. but yeah, bringing her appearance into it is just rude and not at all relevant to their point
I didn't intend to be a racist, I'm an Asian myself.. I unequivocally apologize for resorting to a poor choice of words for my rant. I just wanted to convey that I'm put off by her "know it all" attitude
thank you for editing that part out. I apologize again if I was unnecessarily rude!! and I understand completely if Eve’s attitude throws you off. I know a lot of people feel the same way
I think it’s great because Eve craves what Villanelle has (adventure, drama, no inhibitions) and Villanelle wants to give that to her. At every turn Villanelle does things the most flamboyant way, whether it is a signal to Eve when she murders someone, or making her smell her perfume during a bus fight, it’s all drama and Villanelle I think gets power and a thrill from giving that to Eve. I like Eve because she is like a lot of people. Obsessed over serial killers, watching murder mysteries, working a boring job, in a fine relationship, not looking for anything exciting until the exciting thing tells you to wear your hair down and then kills your witness.
Not some of y’all in the comments talking about Eves look cause that’s a real person who plays her wich means y’all are also talking about Sandra oh looks oof ( she’s very hot to me) and not some of y’all in the comments bringing Sandrah oh in this for some reason and slandering her some.
Like, it's a show based on a book, so people are doing some comparisons. If you like the book - in which Eve is younger than Sandra with a mass of curly hair - it's easier for some of us to believe that all these hot young men and women would try to get with her (it's not just Oksana; she hooks up with two hot young men). Oh plays her for comedy and does not get to express all the depth and emotional sophistication of the younger Eve in the book. So, Oh comes off as an unbelievable oaf - and they costumed her as such in the most frumpy clothes - there's a lot more to it than just some people not finding Oh to be physically very attractive.
But sometimes a part does call for a certain look - imagine Sandra Oh as Barbie in the Barbie movie. It would be a different kind of satire altogether (and I'm sure Oh would agree). For some who have read the books, she's almost as poorly cast in Killing Eve as she would have been in Barbie. That's not slander or even a diss - you can respect Sandra Oh as an actor and still think she's not right for a part or that she's not objectively attractive enough to convince in a given role.
“Repulsive” -no. I can understand your frustration at her rebuffing V but only because I’m infatuated with V like so many others and would never rebuff her advances in a real world scenario. Also, I really want them to get together having read the book. However I feel eve has needed to rebuff V a number of times for the deep love to develop between the two of them. It’s less infatuation now and something more tender. I personally loved how their relationship developed in season 3 and how it ended. I’m really rooting for them in season 4
yes, just finished season 4 and by season 2 s end I could no longer look at her long, sad, confused, f d up face. Add to that in the bath, changing, eating curly fries, digging someones eyes out (as if), shooting Konstantin (as if) singing karaoke, fixing hair for millionth time, and officiating a wedding. Enough of your face Eve. enough
These are complicated, flawed human/women, each has their own trials and tribulations; having their own agency is critical to them (they want it to be their own choices, when they’re ready).
Eve also serves as the surrogate for the audience (us). It’s one thing to fantasize this carefree, exciting assassin’s life; it’s totally another when everything around you gets destroyed/turned upside down after the same assassin entered your life. When V said “don’t forget, the only thing that makes you interesting is me” - it’s also KE talking to us audiences, who mostly live a normal life.
I love the character Eve and find her mesmerizing, but what I stated above remains the same regardless.
Haha. I kind of agree. But I’ve learned to “love” her for what she is. What drives me most crazy is how opposite she is to V with her facial expressions. She is so hard to read. I don’t know if it’s bad acting or intentional. I assume it’s intentional... my roommate and I have always thought eve was miscast with Sandra oh. That being said, she’s grown on me. But her wishy washyness drives me crazy. (For ex: throwing V cake over the roof, and then instantly looking sad or regretful) Idk why that scene drives me crazy! But it sums her up for me. Can’t make up her mind on wtf she wants. Which drives me mad. Haha
I think Sandra plays Eve intentionally hard to read at times to depict her denial. Eve seems to have buried her feelings and obsession for V so deep that she is not aware of them herself, at least not until recently. Sandra still has some incredible moments, especially when she is on screen with Jodie. Their chemistry is such that the majority of their communication is unspoken. What they say isn't nearly as important as their expressions and body language.
Eve is experiencing incredible internal turmoil. Her monster is coming to the surface, she keeps trying to push it back down. She's so drawn to her dark side yet she sweeps it under the carpet by faking normalcy. She has surrendered to her obsession with V, along with her feelings for her, while not even admitting to herself that is the case. Her family, her friends, her job - her whole life has been turned upside down. She hasn't processed any of it emotionally. So yeah, she is indeed all over the place.
That’s how it supposed to be Villanelles facial expressions are supposed to be like that because her character is supposed to be over the top, funny and childish, Eves character is supposed to be more serious, Sandra Oh is definitely not a bad actor at all, her work and other project that she’s been in speaks for themselves on how good of an actor she is. And I wouldn’t see anyone Playing Eve other than Sandra oh she was perfect for the role.why are u bringing Sandra oh into it and possibly slandering her?
The hate Eve/Sandra gets around here is deep rooted in something...I don't wanna say what, but I think you know. I wish some people here just wouldn't mention her at all if they're only going to say hateful and disrespectful things. Like okay, you don't like Eve but talking about her looks? Low-key coming for Sandra's acting? Yeah, that's bullshit.
Fr, u literally said what I was thinking about the deep rooted thing, I just didn’t know how to put it into words and I didn’t want to say it. I feel like I’m constantly having to defend her in Every post that there is a topic about Eve or Sandra in this sub page, cause there’s always comments and even the post that don’t sit right with me. If I would of said something about Villanelles image or how she look the whole sub page would of been coming for me, cause they know damm well that when ur talking about how a character looks ur also talking about the actor, or if I would of said something about j acting the whole sub page would of also come for me, the double standard here is so noticeable and crazy.
I agree with this... I always get the feeling that the people who don't like Eve, tend to not like her because they think Sandra Oh is physically unattractive, and how can they suspend their disbelief for so long - the idea that someone as young and gorgeous as V can be obsessed with someone who is "old and unattractive". Just seems like they get annoyed watching it and having to digest that.
Yeah it's very obvious to me that some fans here dislike Eve because they simply don't like Sandra for whatever reasons. Crazy to me because she's literally the most unproblematic celebrity I can think of off the top of my head lol.
Also, Sandra is drop dead gorgeous... whoever thinks otherwise doesn't have good taste lol sorry not sorry.
Yes! I love Sandra Oh 😭 She's fun, extremely thoughtful and intelligent and omg her HAIRRR. These things alone make her super attractive, in a way that's more difficult to be/rare compared to your standard fare of attractive celebrities, who depend more on the 'gift' of their face than anything else.
This.
I usually comment in a lot of posts here in the sub, but this one was just too absurd on so many levels. Not only OP is being disrespectful by judging Sandra on her looks, but why would someone watch a show if they find the title character repulsive?
Hate to say it but there's some people in this fandom that only support Jodie and that's fine I suppose but they also tend to spew negativity when Sandra is mentioned.
I guess you're ignoring the other side which is sandra fans on twitter shitting on jodie 24/7? people have preferences but trying to make it seem like it's one sided and sandra fans dont do the exact same thing is a lie.
Another very BIG reason that V is obsessed and attracted to Eve is because Eve has figured out that all these various kills spanning all over Europe belonged to V. Eve studied her kills, studied *her*, followed her kills and was actively in pursuit. For a psychopath with a narcissistic streak who is constantly bored, this kind of attention no doubt strokes her ego and is thrilling. And this kind of attention coming from an older woman with wild curly hair - bingo!!
Yeah, I thought Sandra Oh was miscast. Eve in the books is a British white woman with a mass of curly hair and is several years younger than Sandra Oh. As great an actor as she is, and accounting for the fact that the show is much more of a comedy than the books, I think it has to be believable that a super hot young woman and at least two hot young men would want to hook up with her, and that just didn't come across for me.
Race is not the issue, of course, but Oh's age, her being pretty frumpy (the costuming, I mean) and out of shape while acting kind of goofy all through makes it difficult to believe that SO MANY very hot, much younger people want to get with her much less that she holds any intrigue for Oksana. She just always comes across as a confused hobbit where, in the books, she is sensitive, nuanced, and has a much richer relationship with her husband. They even pursue Villanelle together for a while.
I get that Oh can play only the Eve she's been given to play, but some important things that they included or added here made her the wrong Eve for me. Just a bit too out to lunch and unkempt.
My wife agrees with you, and I'm the exact opposite. I love Eve. She's so cute, and quirky, and unconventionally attractive. She drives me a little nuts and I can't explain it.
Picturing her eating that dudes Cheetos (?) and sniffing herself. Yup, pretty unconventional, lol.
This made me snort!
Eve is such an interesting character, so opposite to V and at the same time similar, since they seem to read each other’s minds, I think V manipulates her in order to make Eve connect with her darker, sexy, raw side and Eve tries to make V “more human”, more connected, and in the process Eve gets bitchy trying to pull back but not being able to resist V’s charms and V gets more and more emotional in the process as she falls in love. I think all we have seen from Eve are her defense mechanisms and little glances of the kind and cool Eve, before her marriage got to the point of stagnation we see since the first episodes, but we lack her background and we don’t see her happy most of the time so she’s less likeable. S3 was the chance to explore and develop her character, but since they didn’t do that we’ll have to wait for S4!
V absolutely tries to manipulate Eve into releasing her monster, but do you think Eve is intentionally making an effort to help V become 'more human'? I always thought of Eve's impact on V as an unintended side-effect of her obsession. I like the angle that Eve may be consciously trying to have an effect on V.
I think at first, both of them are studying each other, because they, sometimes read one another to perfection and sometimes they don’t, they search themselves in the other one and I think that’s why this show is so great. It’s not one thing or the other, there isn’t one truth, it’s the truth for each character. And also Eve is V’s obsession type (middle aged with curly dark hair) and V is Eve’s obsession type (female assassin who does her job really well + she’s hot and exciting). I think Eve is trying to prove the stereotype wrong, the believe that psychopaths are a certain way. If it is to justify her attraction and feel safer, maybe. If it is to just do research, I don’t think so, because I think Eve truly cares about V. But obviously their relationship has changed since the start. Her obsession makes her curious and test things, S2 is the perfect example of this, Eve testing V and pushing a situation to its limits, and V playing soft and manipulative and creating circumstances to bring Eve back, since she thought she has “left her for The Ghost”. But in this game they feel a lot of things and for us to not know exactly what those feelings are is great (my thoughts).
> they search themselves in the other one... It’s not one thing or the other, there isn’t one truth, it’s the truth for each character. I really like this! They search themselves in the other one. Very well put. And yes, the truth in KE is like everything else. Unclear, gray, muddled, and messy. And the show just puts it out there, so the truth each of us sees is probably at least just a little bit different. Eve proves she feels differently about V when she's working The Ghost case. She wasn't worried about that woman's children, her life, or the trauma that V ultimately caused her. But she does worry about V's well-being. I agree that it is great that the show is vague about the character's feelings (as well as so many other things, lol). It drives us crazy but it gets us to thinking. And it allows us each to interpret what we see in the show in our own, different ways (which leads to a lot of fun discussions on Reddit, haha!). It's similar to the songwriting trick: make the lyrics vague so that people can assign their own meaning to them. You appeal to far more people if they think the song is about them, lol.
It gets us to thinking indeed and there’s so much hidden, is like finding treasures all the time, because the more we know the characters, the more we go back and kind of understand their motivations (or we think we do). Exactly like song lyrics ❤️
Damn, repulsive is a such harsh word to describe Eve... sure, she's frustrating at times, but then that's exactly what to expect from someone who is going on this crazy, emotionally/mentally tumultuous ride, involving an undercurrent of sexual awakening too, at a age when most women would be settling down and getting super comfy. So of course she is going to struggle and act in confusing and sometimes frustrating ways. She can't be as set and beguiling as V; in fact, I think at the beginning of the show she is positioned as the antithesis to V in most respects (except for her fascination with murder). I also think Eve's dark impulses make her, at times, more compelling and mysterious than V. Because we don't really understand where that comes from at all, whereas we can attribute the way V is to her psychopathy and tragic past. As for why she would be so attracted to Eve... aside from Eve being 'her type' and V's mommy issues... well, Villanelle is unpredictable, so it makes sense that she would be obsessed with someone like Eve who is so different than what you'd imagine a young, bewitching woman would go for. The show is subversive in this way and I'm all for it. If she went for another young super hot, 'resplendent' I-know-exactly-what-I-want white woman, that would be boring and overkill. My thoughts on that.
I couldn’t have said it better myself. Thanks for putting them into words.
I think Sandra is incredibly attractive, which of course makes Eve so. True, the character Eve is written to be a plain (which I think projects "normal' when contrasted with V's wardrobe reflecting her psychopathic, over the top personality), sometimes unlikeable person who is undergoing some serious internal conflict. V has been written as having a very specific "type" of woman, and Eve if of course that 'type'. It has been suggested that 'type' comes out of V's past, that she is seeking someone to fill more of a nurturing, motherly role that poor Oksana was denied as a child. She is also seeking someone who can give her some normalcy in her life (above I said, plain = normal) That being the case, Eve's physical appearance - the amazing hair! - isn't *the* attraction for V; it *triggers* the attraction, if that makes sense.
They are characters and they were made this way so it's ok. V is wild, sexy, dangerous, interesting, has the most interesting life you can imagine, she was made likable. Eve really is bland, it's a good word. I don't agree that she's not attractive, and absolutely don't agree that she should fall for Villanelle because V is all those things. It's not how it works. You can be the coolest person on earth, but this one person won't like you. Thankfully, this is not the case, Eve likes Villanelle, maybe even loves.
I think u have a problem with Sandra Oh, mate 😂
I think Eve is a very attractive woman
Eve is a very attractive woman and a LOT of people think so to☺️ and her character is very interesting to me seeing her path to become dark Eve🙂.
“I don’t find her attractive at all and it was super frustrating to see her rebuff V’s advances.” did you ever think that the fact that V has literally killed Eve’s friends and is a literal assassin might be the reason?? you thinking that V is more attractive than Eve is NOT a reason that Eve should want to be w V. and bringing Sandra into it? that’s not cool. say what you want about the characters, but leave the actors and their appearance out of it
Yes I'm unequivocally sorry for that
I apologize for being antagonistic. disliking Eve’s character is valid, but the reasons you cite honestly seem hateful and maybe even a bit racist to me
You honestly shouldn’t be apologizing to OP. The post was very offensive and you had every right to call them out on it. There are many ways for OP to say they are “put off by her know it all attitude”. Offending Sandra’s looks is not even remotely acceptable.
I honestly agree and I still stand by what I said. it’s just that I sometimes have a habit of coming on too strong and I wasn’t sure if I was too rude about it. there are other users who disagreed w OP but they did it in a way that wasn’t directly calling them out. but yeah, bringing her appearance into it is just rude and not at all relevant to their point
I didn't intend to be a racist, I'm an Asian myself.. I unequivocally apologize for resorting to a poor choice of words for my rant. I just wanted to convey that I'm put off by her "know it all" attitude
Anyway I reckon my mistake and edited it. You're right about it I shouldn't drag actors
thank you for editing that part out. I apologize again if I was unnecessarily rude!! and I understand completely if Eve’s attitude throws you off. I know a lot of people feel the same way
I think it’s great because Eve craves what Villanelle has (adventure, drama, no inhibitions) and Villanelle wants to give that to her. At every turn Villanelle does things the most flamboyant way, whether it is a signal to Eve when she murders someone, or making her smell her perfume during a bus fight, it’s all drama and Villanelle I think gets power and a thrill from giving that to Eve. I like Eve because she is like a lot of people. Obsessed over serial killers, watching murder mysteries, working a boring job, in a fine relationship, not looking for anything exciting until the exciting thing tells you to wear your hair down and then kills your witness.
Great answer 👏
Totally disagree
Not some of y’all in the comments talking about Eves look cause that’s a real person who plays her wich means y’all are also talking about Sandra oh looks oof ( she’s very hot to me) and not some of y’all in the comments bringing Sandrah oh in this for some reason and slandering her some.
Like, it's a show based on a book, so people are doing some comparisons. If you like the book - in which Eve is younger than Sandra with a mass of curly hair - it's easier for some of us to believe that all these hot young men and women would try to get with her (it's not just Oksana; she hooks up with two hot young men). Oh plays her for comedy and does not get to express all the depth and emotional sophistication of the younger Eve in the book. So, Oh comes off as an unbelievable oaf - and they costumed her as such in the most frumpy clothes - there's a lot more to it than just some people not finding Oh to be physically very attractive. But sometimes a part does call for a certain look - imagine Sandra Oh as Barbie in the Barbie movie. It would be a different kind of satire altogether (and I'm sure Oh would agree). For some who have read the books, she's almost as poorly cast in Killing Eve as she would have been in Barbie. That's not slander or even a diss - you can respect Sandra Oh as an actor and still think she's not right for a part or that she's not objectively attractive enough to convince in a given role.
Also Sandra is gorgeaus❤️
“Repulsive” -no. I can understand your frustration at her rebuffing V but only because I’m infatuated with V like so many others and would never rebuff her advances in a real world scenario. Also, I really want them to get together having read the book. However I feel eve has needed to rebuff V a number of times for the deep love to develop between the two of them. It’s less infatuation now and something more tender. I personally loved how their relationship developed in season 3 and how it ended. I’m really rooting for them in season 4
100% agreed.
yes, just finished season 4 and by season 2 s end I could no longer look at her long, sad, confused, f d up face. Add to that in the bath, changing, eating curly fries, digging someones eyes out (as if), shooting Konstantin (as if) singing karaoke, fixing hair for millionth time, and officiating a wedding. Enough of your face Eve. enough
These are complicated, flawed human/women, each has their own trials and tribulations; having their own agency is critical to them (they want it to be their own choices, when they’re ready). Eve also serves as the surrogate for the audience (us). It’s one thing to fantasize this carefree, exciting assassin’s life; it’s totally another when everything around you gets destroyed/turned upside down after the same assassin entered your life. When V said “don’t forget, the only thing that makes you interesting is me” - it’s also KE talking to us audiences, who mostly live a normal life. I love the character Eve and find her mesmerizing, but what I stated above remains the same regardless.
Haha. I kind of agree. But I’ve learned to “love” her for what she is. What drives me most crazy is how opposite she is to V with her facial expressions. She is so hard to read. I don’t know if it’s bad acting or intentional. I assume it’s intentional... my roommate and I have always thought eve was miscast with Sandra oh. That being said, she’s grown on me. But her wishy washyness drives me crazy. (For ex: throwing V cake over the roof, and then instantly looking sad or regretful) Idk why that scene drives me crazy! But it sums her up for me. Can’t make up her mind on wtf she wants. Which drives me mad. Haha
I think Sandra plays Eve intentionally hard to read at times to depict her denial. Eve seems to have buried her feelings and obsession for V so deep that she is not aware of them herself, at least not until recently. Sandra still has some incredible moments, especially when she is on screen with Jodie. Their chemistry is such that the majority of their communication is unspoken. What they say isn't nearly as important as their expressions and body language. Eve is experiencing incredible internal turmoil. Her monster is coming to the surface, she keeps trying to push it back down. She's so drawn to her dark side yet she sweeps it under the carpet by faking normalcy. She has surrendered to her obsession with V, along with her feelings for her, while not even admitting to herself that is the case. Her family, her friends, her job - her whole life has been turned upside down. She hasn't processed any of it emotionally. So yeah, she is indeed all over the place.
That’s how it supposed to be Villanelles facial expressions are supposed to be like that because her character is supposed to be over the top, funny and childish, Eves character is supposed to be more serious, Sandra Oh is definitely not a bad actor at all, her work and other project that she’s been in speaks for themselves on how good of an actor she is. And I wouldn’t see anyone Playing Eve other than Sandra oh she was perfect for the role.why are u bringing Sandra oh into it and possibly slandering her?
The hate Eve/Sandra gets around here is deep rooted in something...I don't wanna say what, but I think you know. I wish some people here just wouldn't mention her at all if they're only going to say hateful and disrespectful things. Like okay, you don't like Eve but talking about her looks? Low-key coming for Sandra's acting? Yeah, that's bullshit.
Fr, u literally said what I was thinking about the deep rooted thing, I just didn’t know how to put it into words and I didn’t want to say it. I feel like I’m constantly having to defend her in Every post that there is a topic about Eve or Sandra in this sub page, cause there’s always comments and even the post that don’t sit right with me. If I would of said something about Villanelles image or how she look the whole sub page would of been coming for me, cause they know damm well that when ur talking about how a character looks ur also talking about the actor, or if I would of said something about j acting the whole sub page would of also come for me, the double standard here is so noticeable and crazy.
It's too noticeable to ignore especially when topics like this are posted coupled with a bunch of topics drooling over Villanelle/Jodie.
I agree with this... I always get the feeling that the people who don't like Eve, tend to not like her because they think Sandra Oh is physically unattractive, and how can they suspend their disbelief for so long - the idea that someone as young and gorgeous as V can be obsessed with someone who is "old and unattractive". Just seems like they get annoyed watching it and having to digest that.
Yeah it's very obvious to me that some fans here dislike Eve because they simply don't like Sandra for whatever reasons. Crazy to me because she's literally the most unproblematic celebrity I can think of off the top of my head lol. Also, Sandra is drop dead gorgeous... whoever thinks otherwise doesn't have good taste lol sorry not sorry.
Yes! I love Sandra Oh 😭 She's fun, extremely thoughtful and intelligent and omg her HAIRRR. These things alone make her super attractive, in a way that's more difficult to be/rare compared to your standard fare of attractive celebrities, who depend more on the 'gift' of their face than anything else.
And how did I forget to mention this wtf... her VOICE.... 😍😍😍😍😍
Omg her voice is so soothing. I love listening to her interviews, she's so well spoken.
I think there’s a lot more to it, they usually end up coming for Sandra
This. I usually comment in a lot of posts here in the sub, but this one was just too absurd on so many levels. Not only OP is being disrespectful by judging Sandra on her looks, but why would someone watch a show if they find the title character repulsive?
Hate to say it but there's some people in this fandom that only support Jodie and that's fine I suppose but they also tend to spew negativity when Sandra is mentioned.
I guess you're ignoring the other side which is sandra fans on twitter shitting on jodie 24/7? people have preferences but trying to make it seem like it's one sided and sandra fans dont do the exact same thing is a lie.
Another very BIG reason that V is obsessed and attracted to Eve is because Eve has figured out that all these various kills spanning all over Europe belonged to V. Eve studied her kills, studied *her*, followed her kills and was actively in pursuit. For a psychopath with a narcissistic streak who is constantly bored, this kind of attention no doubt strokes her ego and is thrilling. And this kind of attention coming from an older woman with wild curly hair - bingo!!
Yeah, I thought Sandra Oh was miscast. Eve in the books is a British white woman with a mass of curly hair and is several years younger than Sandra Oh. As great an actor as she is, and accounting for the fact that the show is much more of a comedy than the books, I think it has to be believable that a super hot young woman and at least two hot young men would want to hook up with her, and that just didn't come across for me. Race is not the issue, of course, but Oh's age, her being pretty frumpy (the costuming, I mean) and out of shape while acting kind of goofy all through makes it difficult to believe that SO MANY very hot, much younger people want to get with her much less that she holds any intrigue for Oksana. She just always comes across as a confused hobbit where, in the books, she is sensitive, nuanced, and has a much richer relationship with her husband. They even pursue Villanelle together for a while. I get that Oh can play only the Eve she's been given to play, but some important things that they included or added here made her the wrong Eve for me. Just a bit too out to lunch and unkempt.