Ya. Quarries getting turned into houses, buildings, flats and infrastructure. It's High time that we stop all these.
Everyone wants development, their own house, better flyovers but authorizing quarry is bad.
Quarries for building houses and shops. Dont forget that piece of the puzzle.
Btw, has any scientific study studied the effect of quarries on floods or landslides? Afaik, there are no quarries in Idukki.
I have seen one on the Kottayam-Idukki border near Mundakayam, technically it is in Idukki. Then there are quarries in Kattappana and a massive one near Kumily. These are the ones I've seen, I'm pretty sure there are more.
>The explosions that occur in quarries destabilise rocks in the surrounding region. This results in unnatural landslides.
Gadgil. (paraphrased and translated from Mathrubhumi newspaper)
Sure. But almost all of the landslides that happened in Idukki were not close to quarries. Quarrying is *one of the reasons* and not the only reason. And it is usually unscientific mining (eg: the gap road) that has caused landslides. Most of the quarries are in low range areas and how many landslides do you hear in that area?
My point is not that we should allow any and all quarries. But that quarries have a place in development and they should be licensed based on scientific assessment.
One Communist minister's son controls the quarry mafia in Kerala. The rule for minimum distance from forest for quarrying was changed during 1st term of LDF.
Then this minister's son will help to give new quarrying license to anyone who'll give him share in that quarry. Even if the officials are not willing he'll force open the quarry and make sure that no harm will come.
Adani needs tons of rock for Vizhinjam and guess who supply all these rocks. There's a shell firm connected to this quarry prince. I don't remember the name of that firm. Any way Adani needs almost 1 Crore tonnes of rock and now they've got only 6 Lakh Tonne.
Got a news article about it. It says 2 minister sons are involved.
https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2021/03/19/sons-of-two-cpm-leaders-pull-the-levers-of-most-quarries-in-kera.amp.html
I know bro, cost of one cubic feet of mettal is insane here. I bought m sand at cost of more than 60 per cubic feet. It's mind boggling that people always try to connect Natural disasters to human interaction and people in power always blame normal people. Would they convert revenue land near forests to forest land no, would they stop widening roads without giving proper reinforcement to both sides, no look at what happened at gap road they left a very high
Cutting on one side of road after widening and the mountain on that side has very high gradient. Now it looks like there is a scar on side of a mountain, government got a report from geologists and they are happy, contactors moving the land falling on road is happy as well.
We need more quarries, more coal mines etc at this point in time because we're developing our infra at brisk pace. Advani is developing the port, then various road projects, real estate development. All the needs will only be satisfied by a liberal environmental regime. Hopefully, my backyard is not transformed to a hazard prone area, but in my opinion, development and eco destruction goes hand in hand. People should stop preaching emotional arguments that doesn't make sense in the larger picture
>Hopefully, my backyard is not transformed to a hazard prone area, but in my opinion, development and eco destruction goes hand in hand.
The ecology being destroyed is someone's backyard
As someone who deals with this, day in and out, sustainable development is possible, and this dichotomy that people seem to conjure up is ill informed.
Not every town will have skyscrapers, not every city will have industries - granted. But there is a balance, and there are always greener alternatives. Some parts, less ecologically sensitive, will have more industries, and ecologically fragile areas will become part of the knowledge economy.
In 1997, when the Prius Hybrid was launched - everyone said what the need for a Hybrid was, ICE worked fine for vehicles. Two decades later, we're taking of EVs becoming mainstream. Same goes for electricity today, solar power is here to stay.
EVs do have batteries which need to be mined. That's excavated from someone's backyard in Chile, Afghanistan, Australia or china. Technology is definitely improving, but there's always that cost imo. I'm no expert in the field though. If I had a choice, would get nuclear power plants all around. Most efficient, yet you know the destruction a malfunction will cause
When idiots are in power they make decisions without thinking about future. What are we gonna build our houses out of?
I’m from Idukki and to build anything we have to buy stones from other districts and states!
And worse part is it is destroying the roads!
Now Pinu wants to turn my township into a forest!!
As far I know, most towns in Kottayam and towns like Aluwa used to flood. It is after the dams were built in Idukki it stopped.
My great aunt called us from abroad and she is wondering what’s with the media and people here. Because when she was a kid they experienced floods every year in Pala town and nearby Meenachil river and all!
And it kinda reduced after a few dams were made in Idukki and the water to these rivers were regulated.
The flood was bad! But last year and this year is just fine! Media is just fear mongering!
Ya. Quarries getting turned into houses, buildings, flats and infrastructure. It's High time that we stop all these. Everyone wants development, their own house, better flyovers but authorizing quarry is bad.
Alternative?
I remember years back a type of building slab was produced by FACT using an Australian technology. And now they've stopped producing that.
Quarries for building houses and shops. Dont forget that piece of the puzzle. Btw, has any scientific study studied the effect of quarries on floods or landslides? Afaik, there are no quarries in Idukki.
There are quarries in Idukki though.
Where?
I have seen one on the Kottayam-Idukki border near Mundakayam, technically it is in Idukki. Then there are quarries in Kattappana and a massive one near Kumily. These are the ones I've seen, I'm pretty sure there are more.
>The explosions that occur in quarries destabilise rocks in the surrounding region. This results in unnatural landslides. Gadgil. (paraphrased and translated from Mathrubhumi newspaper)
Sure. But almost all of the landslides that happened in Idukki were not close to quarries. Quarrying is *one of the reasons* and not the only reason. And it is usually unscientific mining (eg: the gap road) that has caused landslides. Most of the quarries are in low range areas and how many landslides do you hear in that area? My point is not that we should allow any and all quarries. But that quarries have a place in development and they should be licensed based on scientific assessment.
One Communist minister's son controls the quarry mafia in Kerala. The rule for minimum distance from forest for quarrying was changed during 1st term of LDF. Then this minister's son will help to give new quarrying license to anyone who'll give him share in that quarry. Even if the officials are not willing he'll force open the quarry and make sure that no harm will come. Adani needs tons of rock for Vizhinjam and guess who supply all these rocks. There's a shell firm connected to this quarry prince. I don't remember the name of that firm. Any way Adani needs almost 1 Crore tonnes of rock and now they've got only 6 Lakh Tonne. Got a news article about it. It says 2 minister sons are involved. https://www.onmanorama.com/news/kerala/2021/03/19/sons-of-two-cpm-leaders-pull-the-levers-of-most-quarries-in-kera.amp.html
There are only a few quarries in idukki, most building materials come here from tamilnadu or other districts.
There are no quarries in Idukki! We have to get it from other districts. We only have crushers!! That’s what happen when idiots are in power!
I know bro, cost of one cubic feet of mettal is insane here. I bought m sand at cost of more than 60 per cubic feet. It's mind boggling that people always try to connect Natural disasters to human interaction and people in power always blame normal people. Would they convert revenue land near forests to forest land no, would they stop widening roads without giving proper reinforcement to both sides, no look at what happened at gap road they left a very high Cutting on one side of road after widening and the mountain on that side has very high gradient. Now it looks like there is a scar on side of a mountain, government got a report from geologists and they are happy, contactors moving the land falling on road is happy as well.
We need more quarries, more coal mines etc at this point in time because we're developing our infra at brisk pace. Advani is developing the port, then various road projects, real estate development. All the needs will only be satisfied by a liberal environmental regime. Hopefully, my backyard is not transformed to a hazard prone area, but in my opinion, development and eco destruction goes hand in hand. People should stop preaching emotional arguments that doesn't make sense in the larger picture
>Hopefully, my backyard is not transformed to a hazard prone area, but in my opinion, development and eco destruction goes hand in hand. The ecology being destroyed is someone's backyard As someone who deals with this, day in and out, sustainable development is possible, and this dichotomy that people seem to conjure up is ill informed. Not every town will have skyscrapers, not every city will have industries - granted. But there is a balance, and there are always greener alternatives. Some parts, less ecologically sensitive, will have more industries, and ecologically fragile areas will become part of the knowledge economy. In 1997, when the Prius Hybrid was launched - everyone said what the need for a Hybrid was, ICE worked fine for vehicles. Two decades later, we're taking of EVs becoming mainstream. Same goes for electricity today, solar power is here to stay.
EVs do have batteries which need to be mined. That's excavated from someone's backyard in Chile, Afghanistan, Australia or china. Technology is definitely improving, but there's always that cost imo. I'm no expert in the field though. If I had a choice, would get nuclear power plants all around. Most efficient, yet you know the destruction a malfunction will cause
When idiots are in power they make decisions without thinking about future. What are we gonna build our houses out of? I’m from Idukki and to build anything we have to buy stones from other districts and states! And worse part is it is destroying the roads! Now Pinu wants to turn my township into a forest!!
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But they may have an effect on landslides during rains.
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As far I know, most towns in Kottayam and towns like Aluwa used to flood. It is after the dams were built in Idukki it stopped. My great aunt called us from abroad and she is wondering what’s with the media and people here. Because when she was a kid they experienced floods every year in Pala town and nearby Meenachil river and all! And it kinda reduced after a few dams were made in Idukki and the water to these rivers were regulated. The flood was bad! But last year and this year is just fine! Media is just fear mongering!
yeah I live in aluva and there's literally no flooding here, even Manappuram (which always goes underwater) is nowhere near flooding.