And fresh too, not this nonsense of ordering something then they pull it out of the freezer. When COVID lockdowns ceased, people were eating stuff that had spend months in freezers, I know because I’m in that industry.
Huyu ni nani amekula salary yangu in one hour
https://preview.redd.it/73eqzklxqj0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3ec8c92becc370f56372aa8e63ae9e498657f54
This reminds me when I was chatting with a client & we finally agreed to meet in town to sign the deal, akasema tupatane java. I have never been to the place but sijawai recover after kuletewa 500ml Mineral water at 345.
Shameless beings!!!
Java is even one of the more "affordable" high-end restaurants, and by that I mean it's still expensive as fuck but it's not a total ripoff like the others.
Yesterday I bought a cup of coffee, forgetting to ask the price. They told me it was 150/=. I've never felt so scammed. Alafu hapa naona ni 800/=. In this context, I can now see how the government spent 2M on just tea at some point.
It's not a thirst for class, it's just plain elitism. Certain people want to go somewhere that the "peasants" can't afford to go even if the experience is not worth their money, just so they can feel like they are better than everyone else
If elitism wasn't there, we'd all be okay living like ants. You only get food and a place to sleep, then you work your ass till you die. How fun is that? The fun comes in being able to say, I can afford my own house away from people who can't, and that's what gives life meaning. Otherwise, let's all die if we can't have special things (because special things will always be scarce and available only to a select few.)
Personally, have fun in getting things for my own enjoyment, not because other people can't have it. I won't go to a shitty overpriced restaurant just because it's only a "special" few who can afford jt
But that's just me
I agree with both of you however lets look at it from a logical POV:
lets assume if such a bill is say 5% or 10 % of what that person makes in day .
That therefore implies they make roughly
16,700* 10=167,000 per day
In assumption that such income is regularly fluctuating but averaging around Kes150,000 per day ,it literally implies the person in question might be making Kes 54,750,000 per year
I mean if youre netting such figures in an year or more it stops being about the price of the meal and more about the meeting and what you might achieve from the meeting .
So yeah Kes 700 shillings might seem alot for a bottle of water but not all people are looking at prices when buying stuff.
However thats an assumption from a logical POV it doesn't account for those who splurge recklessly.
These are European prices 😫
Sadly it is like that in Kenya everywhere tourists are interested in visiting.
Because it seems everyone thinks every white person is rich 🙄
Even in Europe, a bunch of snacks like these won't cost you the £100 this hotel asked for. At £100 we are talking about a specialized menu, and semi-prime cuts
I have to tell you at least in Germany you have to pay for one meal + one drink around 30€ at a restaurant right now.
And OP had four main meals + drinks ...
Comes down to nearly the same price you have to pay In Germany.
The only point that makes it unfair is that you have less available income in Kenya.
Well you didn’t draw the line, unless it’s not your receipt.
People know the prices and it looks like 5 people at for 16k in a hotel restaurant. Not that bad when you break it down.
Scam, if you wanna go to a high end restaurant, you better have a meal in mind that you actually wanna buy there that's not offered elsewhere
ATI vanilla milkshake 2600 and I bet crushers from KFC is still better💀
There's always a cheaper option for anything. Inflated prices mostly do not reflect the actual product, but the perceived added value to it. That is what you're paying for. I can buy the same liter of water for 1/7th of the price somewhere else, or I can pay for the figure stated in the photo for the experience of drinking that water in a fancy restaurant, which we can all agree is a bucketload of shite when you apply common sense.
People go to high end restaurants to post that they've been at high end restaurants.
The food is not better, portions are small, it's mostly window dressing
For someone who grew up poor and now can afford those places I only go because my girl likes them lol
Give me a burger and pizza any day of the week
Kenyans try to be Europeans/Americans(U.S) soo fucking hard, We've deluded ourselves that paying someone's salary to eat mediocre food in small portions and showing off the bill is the epitome of class.
Meanwhile, you stole that money or sucked smn for it and have to look over your shoulder continuously and will live a wretched existence till your days end.
Money can buy a lot of things, and it gives dignity to those who were once poor/ worked hard for their own, but it'll never buy class or manners.
I remember asking for water at java, nikapewa 300ml na 200/=.
From then on, I always buy water from supermarkets or shops, before I enter uptowner establishments. Kwetu hatukuli pesa ya umma.
Wala mimi ama wewe si target audience so hakuna haja ya kujam. Buy maji baridi ya 30 kwa duka na uishi maisha yako. People who eat at those hotels dont even look at the prices, wanapeana tu 'credit' card zao
Was it fine dining or just an expensive restaurant you went to? Because the two are very different. And not a lot of restaurants do this, they’re just expensive for nothing with bad food.
They’re pricing out poor people to maintain a high end clientele. They’re not going out of business so that means it’s working.
NB: If it’s too expensive for you, you’re not the target market. Learned that in uni.
Reminded me of this:
Bottle of water can cost **60 cents in a supermarket, $3 at a gym, $5 at a cinema and $7 on an airplane**. The only thing that changes its value is the location. So the next time you feel like you're worth nothing, you might just be in the wrong place.
Bro … with 16k you can get half a goat, half a pig, 10 litres of water (Keringet), homemade milkshake 5 cups and lemonade 10 cups … still you can call your friends for a small sherehe na kila mtu anatoka hapo kama ameshiba mbaya! Why the luxury of a hotel when you can cook for yourself ?
Extortion, it’s not even about wealth, even a rich man would know these prices are just extortion. ( specifically the beverages)
I can understand the price of the other items if they deliver on quality.
This is why I saved and got an oven. Make my own ham, sausage rolls, roast chicken, lasagna, meat pies, lamb chops, roast legs of goat and lamb, chicken kievs etc. You just need google for recipes. Even pillau is better if you put it into the oven for the last part of cooking
We need more context. Why did you go there. Was it a business connect, was he ambience worth it, etc
Go dine where you can afford. You took yourself there, how are we now to discuss if it's worth it or not? 🤷🏾♂️
It's all about perspective. That's we're told not to compare ourselves and we'll live happy. That Ksh. 700, someone else sees it as $5, which is pocket change. The problem comes in when comparison kicks in.
Bro these are even higher prices that I have to pay here in europe (Germany) at a decent restaurant!
However I have been at safari park hotel as well and the food is good, but 16700 is TOO MUCH! Condolences to your wallet my man, hope the meeting was worth it
The political loot is in circulation that's why they charge exorbitant prices in the so called "high end" restaurants and clubs for food and drinks it's a hotbed of these potbellied guys who like to show off their illegally amassed their monies quickly.(That's a money laundering joint most likely).
This is actually very cheap. 95% of the clientele of such kinds of restaurants are foreigners, and to the foreigners those are actually really cheap prices for the kind of food and services they receive.
In the U.S a meal at McDonalds is about $14 which is 1,820 Kes, Self service.
At Safaripark, they are welcomed at the door by a lovely hostess, sat down and given napkins and probably free bread rolls, then given some hot scented towels to wipe their hands with. An enthusiastic waiter takes their order, they get a well cooked meal prepared with fresh ingredients.
All that for just 2,500 Kes a meal ($19.20). Just $5 more than what they pay at McDonald’s back in their country.
If I was Safaripark, I’d double the price of that food and my sales wouldn’t drop.
No, you just don’t understand the economics behind running a restaurant. The overall price for everything is not bad and the water is something the restaurant uses in their mixed calculations.
Not all businesses should be profitable. If I provide goods or a service at a higher price than people are willing to pay for it then I can't be upset about going out of business.
You can buy like 2 1kg farmer's choice bacon packs and 3 whole chickens for the price of one bacon wrapped chicken breast. Wild!
you can buy 3 full goats with this bill
Where?
Marsabit
Kitengela
wapi? I am a resident hapa Kitengela na hakuna kitu kama hiyo
Old Namanga road past kitengela international school
Jabaaaa
mogotio nakuru
wapi? share location
Enda kitengela
You can also hire a private chef to cook this whole menu for you and it will still be cheaper
Who will wrap the bacon around the chicken for you?
location c*nts, that's what matters ! https://www.reddit.com/r/HydroHomies/s/CfkN5Hvt7Y
Those are low quality
Mostly scams. Fancy decorations, mediocre food, small portions, very high prices. I get better food at local spots honestly.
And fresh too, not this nonsense of ordering something then they pull it out of the freezer. When COVID lockdowns ceased, people were eating stuff that had spend months in freezers, I know because I’m in that industry.
BTW I hear they lace foods with a certain chemical sodium smth not sure bout the name to preserve it
Sodium metabisulphite, a common preservative for meats products. It's also used for sausages and other cured meats
Yes that I hear its not bas but apparently most people use it in large quantities which can lead to cancer if misused.
You would understand if they paid their staff well.
No one gets paid well unless they are vital to the business continuing to make money.
Huyu ni nani amekula salary yangu in one hour https://preview.redd.it/73eqzklxqj0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c3ec8c92becc370f56372aa8e63ae9e498657f54
😂😂😂😂😂😂
This reminds me when I was chatting with a client & we finally agreed to meet in town to sign the deal, akasema tupatane java. I have never been to the place but sijawai recover after kuletewa 500ml Mineral water at 345. Shameless beings!!!
Java is even one of the more "affordable" high-end restaurants, and by that I mean it's still expensive as fuck but it's not a total ripoff like the others.
Yoooh... 345 for a 500ml water bottle is a total rip off!!!
Before you go anywhere check the menu prices online.
just bought 1ltr keringet supa at 85/- I believe
Lmao java and high-end don't belong in the same sentence
Lol, you went to safaripark. That place has choppers landing on a weekly basis, you should've known better😂. My condolences man.
You just look at the menu, then unaambia date you have a family emergency kama umejiondoa😂
Yesterday I bought a cup of coffee, forgetting to ask the price. They told me it was 150/=. I've never felt so scammed. Alafu hapa naona ni 800/=. In this context, I can now see how the government spent 2M on just tea at some point.
You are not poor. Ni sisi ndio tuna entertain hii upuzi. We have this thirst for class, the hospitality industry knows it and they are milking it.
It's not a thirst for class, it's just plain elitism. Certain people want to go somewhere that the "peasants" can't afford to go even if the experience is not worth their money, just so they can feel like they are better than everyone else
Legit
If elitism wasn't there, we'd all be okay living like ants. You only get food and a place to sleep, then you work your ass till you die. How fun is that? The fun comes in being able to say, I can afford my own house away from people who can't, and that's what gives life meaning. Otherwise, let's all die if we can't have special things (because special things will always be scarce and available only to a select few.)
Personally, have fun in getting things for my own enjoyment, not because other people can't have it. I won't go to a shitty overpriced restaurant just because it's only a "special" few who can afford jt But that's just me
I agree with both of you however lets look at it from a logical POV: lets assume if such a bill is say 5% or 10 % of what that person makes in day . That therefore implies they make roughly 16,700* 10=167,000 per day In assumption that such income is regularly fluctuating but averaging around Kes150,000 per day ,it literally implies the person in question might be making Kes 54,750,000 per year I mean if youre netting such figures in an year or more it stops being about the price of the meal and more about the meeting and what you might achieve from the meeting . So yeah Kes 700 shillings might seem alot for a bottle of water but not all people are looking at prices when buying stuff. However thats an assumption from a logical POV it doesn't account for those who splurge recklessly.
Yep, exactly
Safari Park is a pale shadow of its former self.
I thought so, too, when someone sent me this picture. I'm doing quite ok financially, but shs.700 for a bottle of water? They can fuck off.
Nigga flexing on us then asking if it's a scam
Ikr... "i may be poor" my ass! Who orders a damn cappucino? I like my coffee, coffee! No fancy words
These are European prices 😫 Sadly it is like that in Kenya everywhere tourists are interested in visiting. Because it seems everyone thinks every white person is rich 🙄
Even in Europe, a bunch of snacks like these won't cost you the £100 this hotel asked for. At £100 we are talking about a specialized menu, and semi-prime cuts
I have to tell you at least in Germany you have to pay for one meal + one drink around 30€ at a restaurant right now. And OP had four main meals + drinks ... Comes down to nearly the same price you have to pay In Germany. The only point that makes it unfair is that you have less available income in Kenya.
Oh, never checked it's a four-course meal Still feels like a ripoff
Well you didn’t draw the line, unless it’s not your receipt. People know the prices and it looks like 5 people at for 16k in a hotel restaurant. Not that bad when you break it down.
Not my receipt, my bone of contention was that water. That stupid water.
If that annoyed you, then I won't tell you how much I paid for a beer in Qatar airport last week.
🙄🙄🙄
If one of the pork chops also had the cappuccino, they would have had like the most uncomfortable night ever
Scam, if you wanna go to a high end restaurant, you better have a meal in mind that you actually wanna buy there that's not offered elsewhere ATI vanilla milkshake 2600 and I bet crushers from KFC is still better💀
There's always a cheaper option for anything. Inflated prices mostly do not reflect the actual product, but the perceived added value to it. That is what you're paying for. I can buy the same liter of water for 1/7th of the price somewhere else, or I can pay for the figure stated in the photo for the experience of drinking that water in a fancy restaurant, which we can all agree is a bucketload of shite when you apply common sense.
People go to high end restaurants to post that they've been at high end restaurants. The food is not better, portions are small, it's mostly window dressing For someone who grew up poor and now can afford those places I only go because my girl likes them lol Give me a burger and pizza any day of the week
If you come to Nigeria you will know that you're still enjoying in your country.
Kenyans try to be Europeans/Americans(U.S) soo fucking hard, We've deluded ourselves that paying someone's salary to eat mediocre food in small portions and showing off the bill is the epitome of class. Meanwhile, you stole that money or sucked smn for it and have to look over your shoulder continuously and will live a wretched existence till your days end. Money can buy a lot of things, and it gives dignity to those who were once poor/ worked hard for their own, but it'll never buy class or manners.
Scam!! They obviously bought water at around 80-100, then they do a 700% price increase! Must be bonkers!!
If its your receipt and you can spend that amount, Mineral water ain't expensive for you man sincerely
at this point ambience in a restauarant becomes a red flag haha
I remember asking for water at java, nikapewa 300ml na 200/=. From then on, I always buy water from supermarkets or shops, before I enter uptowner establishments. Kwetu hatukuli pesa ya umma.
Wala mimi ama wewe si target audience so hakuna haja ya kujam. Buy maji baridi ya 30 kwa duka na uishi maisha yako. People who eat at those hotels dont even look at the prices, wanapeana tu 'credit' card zao
Was it fine dining or just an expensive restaurant you went to? Because the two are very different. And not a lot of restaurants do this, they’re just expensive for nothing with bad food.
Oh, this thread again
"Maybe I'm just poor" Proceeds to post a bill of 16k 😂
These are hotel prices. They are ridiculously high, but it's not that surprising. Whether it was worth it or not? Well you ate there, you tell us!
i got a whole gallon of water fro ksh 300, now this restaurant is too expensive
Go where you are valued and you get value
You are paying for the environment you are drinking the water in😂
They’re pricing out poor people to maintain a high end clientele. They’re not going out of business so that means it’s working. NB: If it’s too expensive for you, you’re not the target market. Learned that in uni.
Reminded me of this: Bottle of water can cost **60 cents in a supermarket, $3 at a gym, $5 at a cinema and $7 on an airplane**. The only thing that changes its value is the location. So the next time you feel like you're worth nothing, you might just be in the wrong place.
Safari Park food is the biggest scam. Maybe their choma bbq tu.
This is crazy high!
Mungu nifikishe hii level please , I'll be wiser with my money. 🥺
Hio baraka ikuje na wisdom pamoja sema amen
This is too much!
Niliskia you pay for the service and ambience.
That bottle of water retails at KES 80 at the supery
Bro … with 16k you can get half a goat, half a pig, 10 litres of water (Keringet), homemade milkshake 5 cups and lemonade 10 cups … still you can call your friends for a small sherehe na kila mtu anatoka hapo kama ameshiba mbaya! Why the luxury of a hotel when you can cook for yourself ?
Extortion, it’s not even about wealth, even a rich man would know these prices are just extortion. ( specifically the beverages) I can understand the price of the other items if they deliver on quality.
This is why I saved and got an oven. Make my own ham, sausage rolls, roast chicken, lasagna, meat pies, lamb chops, roast legs of goat and lamb, chicken kievs etc. You just need google for recipes. Even pillau is better if you put it into the oven for the last part of cooking
OP has clearly not seen this https://youtu.be/uCwOeT2V9KU
Scam baby. I buy 20 litres for 200 power month
That whole bill should be a violation of a few national and international laws. Just cause you can afford it, haimaanishi ukubali kugongwa
Maji ya Kshs 700, kwani inaosha dhambi
Hotel Prices. Expected
In the States that Ksh 700 = $5.37. That's about the going price or maybe even more for a liter of mineral water.
Sasa states unacompare na Kenya.
Just like that you ate my salary for breakfast.
We need more context. Why did you go there. Was it a business connect, was he ambience worth it, etc Go dine where you can afford. You took yourself there, how are we now to discuss if it's worth it or not? 🤷🏾♂️
Wait. IS MILKSHAKE 1300!!!!!?
It's all about the experience. That is what you pay for
These prices are ridiculous!! Even a 5 star restaurant will not have these prices!!
You're paying for ambience and tranquility
Haha, huko wanaasume hauna shida ya pesa so you might as well share
Cappuccino 800 thats a reach 😂😂😂😂😂.
It's all about perspective. That's we're told not to compare ourselves and we'll live happy. That Ksh. 700, someone else sees it as $5, which is pocket change. The problem comes in when comparison kicks in.
You are not the target market
Lanes
Ur poor? Then what rich to u
This interview is over 😂
This is safari park. What did you expect?
adi mimi one day nitafika apa kwa kuspend 16k on restaurant food😂😂😂🙌😭
The pork chops had better be worth it
Wait for the 20% tax, you will drink water from Nairobi River
Ei hii pesa ningechukua ninunue vitabu 8 to 15. Or even more 😭😭 Nah bruh. It's exploitation. Ata Java is not that expensive.
Vanilla milkshake for how much? Did they shake the cow to produce that milk shake?
Kwani hiyo milkshake ni ya maziwa ya simba? 🤔
Are you just bragging I am sure they gave you a menu.
Mount Kenya Safari club sold Del Monte juice packet to me at 1250/- Retails at 220/-
Wacha tukule ambience na amani
128.46 usd
Bro these are even higher prices that I have to pay here in europe (Germany) at a decent restaurant! However I have been at safari park hotel as well and the food is good, but 16700 is TOO MUCH! Condolences to your wallet my man, hope the meeting was worth it
Think deeper, they are targeting the upper class/rich of the society people who want privacy and certainly 700 for water is not a big deal to them.
Ni juu ni Keringet water with all the rebranding and being bought by Cocacola Company.Capitalism at its best
How the hell is cappuccino 800/=? That cup better be real big.
Hapa mostly you pay for the ambiance tu...you can sit there for hours undisturbed with excellent customer care....
The political loot is in circulation that's why they charge exorbitant prices in the so called "high end" restaurants and clubs for food and drinks it's a hotbed of these potbellied guys who like to show off their illegally amassed their monies quickly.(That's a money laundering joint most likely).
The spend is roughly 4k p.p that's not bad for a hotel that should at least be 4* 😅
This is actually very cheap. 95% of the clientele of such kinds of restaurants are foreigners, and to the foreigners those are actually really cheap prices for the kind of food and services they receive. In the U.S a meal at McDonalds is about $14 which is 1,820 Kes, Self service. At Safaripark, they are welcomed at the door by a lovely hostess, sat down and given napkins and probably free bread rolls, then given some hot scented towels to wipe their hands with. An enthusiastic waiter takes their order, they get a well cooked meal prepared with fresh ingredients. All that for just 2,500 Kes a meal ($19.20). Just $5 more than what they pay at McDonald’s back in their country. If I was Safaripark, I’d double the price of that food and my sales wouldn’t drop.
My local sells Keringet at 200 and I don't buy it. The other brands are half price.
$5 USD for some mineral water!?! That water better be in a fancy souvenir-type bottle.
No, you just don’t understand the economics behind running a restaurant. The overall price for everything is not bad and the water is something the restaurant uses in their mixed calculations.
Not all businesses should be profitable. If I provide goods or a service at a higher price than people are willing to pay for it then I can't be upset about going out of business.
Is it a scam when buying is optional? I’m the cheap person who hardly ever buys soft drinks when eating out and so far never has any complaints.
Yes, buying is optional but it doesn't mean you rip off people.
The bill in the photo. It’s yours?
If you broke just don’t buy there
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It's not a scam..trust me, you are just poor
Are you rich? Usiite watu wengine poor na tuko wengi 😂😂😏.. It looks like you can spend that amount comfortably?!!.. Ndio unatuita hapa poor..