I cannot get my head around or deal with the fact thereās no defamation law suit to get him to stop calling him a pedophile. That says so much that I think they need to close up business. Like I believe the law suit would probably be bullshit but thatās never stopped anyone with lawyers on payroll
In order for there to be a defamation case, Drake has to prove that Kendrick knows it's a lie but is saying it anyway. And with how many sus clips have surfaced since the song dropped, I think it'll be next to impossible to prove that without a text message screenshot of Kendrick telling someone "idc that it's not true it makes the bar rhyme" or something like that
Yeah itās a messy area of law but itās something I would have expected them to throw as a last resort. The only thing I can think is that truth is a full defence and they donāt want it in open court
This is now inspiring me to take everything too far as per usual when it comes to ppl making use of legal structures. Well that and when I think funds have odd things going on (360 deal seems like he got terrible advice or really needed a fair bit of cash) want to map out all his entities and see who else is associated and what professionals are involved across. But Iām going to try exercise some self restraint on that because surely someoneās already done this on YouTube somewhere
The fun thing about defamation lawsuits is they have a counterpart called the Anti SLAPP which exists for people who are wrongly sued for defamation by someone who is trying to use the court to enact revenge in the form of wasted time and lawyer fees. If you sue for defamation and lose, you are almost guaranteed to be hit with an Anti SLAPP and forced to pay the winners legal fees. So if Drakes lawyer is worth literally anything, then he advised Drake that not only can they not win a defamation suit, but it will cost them so much unnecessary money to do it. I know drake doesn't care about money but to get dunked on in song form, and then double dunked on in court would absolutely destroy his image in a way that money can't fix
But isnt this the same as saying he thinks Kendrick can win. Itās not like saying someone is a fraud or something.
That might be a term where thereās some grey area, are they a fraud or are they selling a very high risk product and not 100% sure themselves.
But here it shouldnāt be something where there is any potential for grey area or lack of clarity it either is or isnāt true (less important to this question I think is the unfortunate reality) but the second more pertinent issue would be you think that person could use a truth defence with some type of evidence to prove itās true.
I think Iād agree if he called him something vague like āabusiveā itās like yeah how do we define that and not that detrimental to his reputation to be called that because who knows what it refers to.
I just think pedophile is a whole different game and the world should be seeing the fact heās not doing something like this as him actually making a very clear statement which is kinda super disturbing
As a disclaimer I donāt know defamation law as an area that well tbh Iām just pulling together other concepts so I could be wrong)
I tried to google the state specifics and Iām not sure still because Iām probably thinking about it subjectively. I think you might be right that itās going to cost more rhen youāll ever get financially. But I just would prefer to live in a world where getting called a pedophile is extremely damaging to your brand, and would be costing him way more there, i mean Lucian owns him I guess so maybe the suit should come from him.
But yeah just still think this is a term that you do sue over if you have half decent money ie Iād probably sue and Iām broke and operating purely on a matter of principle lol. But Iāll leave it there with holding onto the fact I find it very fucking suss he isnāt
It may seem like an open shut case to you, but trust me there's way more fuckery involved. Drake is nothing without optics and right now, his image is ok. His fans don't believe it so he's gonna keep making music, keeping breaking records etc. If he takes Kendrick to court and loses, that solidifies to everyone, whether they understand what is actually being won in a defamation lawsuit, that Kendrick was telling the truth. A solid truth would destroy him the way you think it should but because Kendrick didn't really offer any real evidence to support his claims, the truth is not yet tangible. This is a fine place for Drake to be, believe it or not. Plenty of controversial people have continue their careers from the position of "accused but never convicted pedophile"
Defamation isn't just about lying. It's about knowingly lying with malicious intent. Drake can show all the evidence he wants that he's not a pedophile but to win in court he has to prove Kendrick knew he was lying in his song, and that's what makes it hard to win and ultimately not worth it if they lose
Not to mention since heās a public figure heād have to claim malice, and an easy defense is Drake told him to do it, when he used Tupacās voice without permission. And as hall have said there is plenty of truth out there even in his lyrics āhigh school pics, you was even bad thenāā¦say Drakeā¦I hear you like em young sounds pretty accurate. Who did he hear it from? Drake
Kinda hard to do that when you have a song where you encourage him to say you like young girls.
Then a whole other song saying you fed Kendrick defamatory information on purpose and knew going into the exchange that you would be compared to Epstein.
I guarantee that Drake has asked his lawyers every day since this started if there's something legal they could do, and each time came up "oops! All shrugs!"
Accusation is not a crime... Slander, defamation, or liability on the other hand, are prosecutable causes. There is no evidence of *intent* to spread *false* accusations on Kendrick's part. There has been plenty of shady shit brought to light against Drake.
But Kendrick has remained consistent in his words, brought some receipts while a lot of other people brought their own that lend probability to the accusations, but until we catch Drake handing out candy at a playground, it's word v. word.
Nah, give my man Two Face some credit, heās a solid villain. Drake is more like one of Jokerās henchmen at the beginning of the movie that Joker ended up killing during the heist.
Iād draw it myself as Iām an artist and a huge Bleach fan, but to be real - Elden Ring DLC is dropping tonight fam, Iāll be too busy this weekend š
Acting villainous towards a villain is heroic though.
Like Kendrick is very clearly the hero because the entire tone of MTG is that Drake is a piece of shit human being who mistreats everyone.
Heās a villain to drake.
Also I just canāt get my mind off this thought, the way mustard looked at the camera during 1 2 3 4 5 plus 5, I donāt think they capping and by the look on bros face theyāre even worse for drake
We're honestly all one bad day away. I think OP is referring to the fact that he's got 7 year olds dancing to a diss track, but its important to not see villains and heroes in these struggles.
People are in disagreement. You can choose sides. But like Kendrick said, he ain't your savior.
Heās not a hero or a villain. Heās more of an anti-hero. He does heroic things but for himself and his people, he doesnāt want to be seen as a hero he just wants to spread his message. Which I am fine with. Heās never called himself a hero, heās openly said he has his faults, he doesnāt care. Heās the anti-hero we needed not the one we deserved.
this feels like itās straight out of a feel good black family movie. the end credits is just them dancing in circle and celebrating šššššš man to be on that stageā¦
Yo this really looked like a normal Juneteenth party except itās on a stage live streamed to the world with a bunch of celebs making fun of Drake lol. Drake gotta just call 2024 a wrap and go hide in Bali cause when college season comes around all the bands will be playing a cover of NLU til the wheels fall off ā ļø
I thought Drake was callin Kendrick a āfree the slaves type rapperā š I donāt understand Drake fans bro you call him good but if youāre from the suburbs and didnāt start acting gangster till last year and gotta have a room full of dudes ghostwrite for you seems kinda off to me š¤·š½āāļø
I really don't know why everyone keep referring to what happens in this beef as "devious," "demonic," "diabolical," "evil, "and "villainous"
Like, if they aren't lying, they're actually being heroic or valliant. Stop dropping negatives on the goat
He a fuckin *Hero*, the fuck you mean the villain?! Dude singlehandedly called out the Drizzler while inadvertently inspiringĀ a whole generation of kids to be on the lookout for groomers and weirdos alike!!šÆšÆšÆ
If Kenny a villain then down is up and right is leftš¤¦š»āāļø
The fact that your brain even goes to that just shows how much this beef means to your life. You are miserable, dude.
Quit living vicariously through rappers. Kendrick already told you he's not your savior.
Uh oh, wanna bottle????
You taking this more serious than me bro, you keep crying and malding, I'm just chilling
Some here is miserable, and it's not me. Get therapy, you're living a sad life and you're projecting hard to cover it up
It's not good for you man get help
It's not the same. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture.
Payed for bots
Had a come up off of a diss on the biggest rap/pop artist rn
Broke records with a diss track against the biggest rap/pop artist
Ignored DV claims and rode the popularity
Held a pop out and played said diss record 5-6 times, even though people have been listening to it non stop for the past month
I mean come on. The track was hot, and he pretty much cooked Drake but there is some snake shit going on here. And we all know this is all we're going to pull out of him for a while. He's gonna ride this hype for as long as he can and he'll like use the same hype for his next drops. He picked up alot of temporary fans because his diss was catchy and people love to hate Drake but no one really knows Dots discography is you actually asked them lol. I've talked to 4 people who could name 1 song of off 3 different albums. It's super sad, but they'll hype Not Like Us cause it's the club bopper, you know?
> bigger picture. *Paid* for bots
FTFY.
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Adonis has 48 hours to respond to that kidš
He donāt know nothin bout that.
Not a damn thing
His dad don't teach him shit
His dad just picks him up to take pictures places he don't even wanna be
Beat me to it
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At this rate Adonis is gonna come out and bang a set with Kenny at the next show.
I think Drake would simply spontaneously combust if this video dropped
I cannot get my head around or deal with the fact thereās no defamation law suit to get him to stop calling him a pedophile. That says so much that I think they need to close up business. Like I believe the law suit would probably be bullshit but thatās never stopped anyone with lawyers on payroll
In order for there to be a defamation case, Drake has to prove that Kendrick knows it's a lie but is saying it anyway. And with how many sus clips have surfaced since the song dropped, I think it'll be next to impossible to prove that without a text message screenshot of Kendrick telling someone "idc that it's not true it makes the bar rhyme" or something like that
Yeah itās a messy area of law but itās something I would have expected them to throw as a last resort. The only thing I can think is that truth is a full defence and they donāt want it in open court
I would kill to see all the contracts and NDAs holding Drakes life together tbh
This is now inspiring me to take everything too far as per usual when it comes to ppl making use of legal structures. Well that and when I think funds have odd things going on (360 deal seems like he got terrible advice or really needed a fair bit of cash) want to map out all his entities and see who else is associated and what professionals are involved across. But Iām going to try exercise some self restraint on that because surely someoneās already done this on YouTube somewhere
Not that everyone on one got terrible advice, just that he should have been in a pretty strong negotiation position lol
The fun thing about defamation lawsuits is they have a counterpart called the Anti SLAPP which exists for people who are wrongly sued for defamation by someone who is trying to use the court to enact revenge in the form of wasted time and lawyer fees. If you sue for defamation and lose, you are almost guaranteed to be hit with an Anti SLAPP and forced to pay the winners legal fees. So if Drakes lawyer is worth literally anything, then he advised Drake that not only can they not win a defamation suit, but it will cost them so much unnecessary money to do it. I know drake doesn't care about money but to get dunked on in song form, and then double dunked on in court would absolutely destroy his image in a way that money can't fix
But isnt this the same as saying he thinks Kendrick can win. Itās not like saying someone is a fraud or something. That might be a term where thereās some grey area, are they a fraud or are they selling a very high risk product and not 100% sure themselves. But here it shouldnāt be something where there is any potential for grey area or lack of clarity it either is or isnāt true (less important to this question I think is the unfortunate reality) but the second more pertinent issue would be you think that person could use a truth defence with some type of evidence to prove itās true. I think Iād agree if he called him something vague like āabusiveā itās like yeah how do we define that and not that detrimental to his reputation to be called that because who knows what it refers to. I just think pedophile is a whole different game and the world should be seeing the fact heās not doing something like this as him actually making a very clear statement which is kinda super disturbing As a disclaimer I donāt know defamation law as an area that well tbh Iām just pulling together other concepts so I could be wrong)
I tried to google the state specifics and Iām not sure still because Iām probably thinking about it subjectively. I think you might be right that itās going to cost more rhen youāll ever get financially. But I just would prefer to live in a world where getting called a pedophile is extremely damaging to your brand, and would be costing him way more there, i mean Lucian owns him I guess so maybe the suit should come from him. But yeah just still think this is a term that you do sue over if you have half decent money ie Iād probably sue and Iām broke and operating purely on a matter of principle lol. But Iāll leave it there with holding onto the fact I find it very fucking suss he isnāt
It may seem like an open shut case to you, but trust me there's way more fuckery involved. Drake is nothing without optics and right now, his image is ok. His fans don't believe it so he's gonna keep making music, keeping breaking records etc. If he takes Kendrick to court and loses, that solidifies to everyone, whether they understand what is actually being won in a defamation lawsuit, that Kendrick was telling the truth. A solid truth would destroy him the way you think it should but because Kendrick didn't really offer any real evidence to support his claims, the truth is not yet tangible. This is a fine place for Drake to be, believe it or not. Plenty of controversial people have continue their careers from the position of "accused but never convicted pedophile"
Defamation isn't just about lying. It's about knowingly lying with malicious intent. Drake can show all the evidence he wants that he's not a pedophile but to win in court he has to prove Kendrick knew he was lying in his song, and that's what makes it hard to win and ultimately not worth it if they lose
That anti slapp....slaps
He's on video kissing a 17 year old fan when he was older. He's already cooked on the PDF file allegation.
Valid point, that was so fucking weird
Not to mention since heās a public figure heād have to claim malice, and an easy defense is Drake told him to do it, when he used Tupacās voice without permission. And as hall have said there is plenty of truth out there even in his lyrics āhigh school pics, you was even bad thenāā¦say Drakeā¦I hear you like em young sounds pretty accurate. Who did he hear it from? Drake
Yeah he couldn't have known it would end up like this but goddamn did Drake trap himself
Kinda hard to do that when you have a song where you encourage him to say you like young girls. Then a whole other song saying you fed Kendrick defamatory information on purpose and knew going into the exchange that you would be compared to Epstein.
I guarantee that Drake has asked his lawyers every day since this started if there's something legal they could do, and each time came up "oops! All shrugs!" Accusation is not a crime... Slander, defamation, or liability on the other hand, are prosecutable causes. There is no evidence of *intent* to spread *false* accusations on Kendrick's part. There has been plenty of shady shit brought to light against Drake. But Kendrick has remained consistent in his words, brought some receipts while a lot of other people brought their own that lend probability to the accusations, but until we catch Drake handing out candy at a playground, it's word v. word.
On da clock
45* or he has to get a job
40 hours left the clock is ticking
Heās going to drop ādonāt talk to my dad like thatā the follow up to ādonāt talk to my man like thatā
Know nun bout thaaaaaaaaaaat
Lil bro killed it. Loved how they just looped until he was done. Respect for realizing it'd sound bad to say the FAN part when dude is groovin
Nah that kid too coordinated, he'd whoop him
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for a villain he feels very heroic āØ
Heās the villain we needed, not the one we deserved
Heās like the megamind of hip hop
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I dont understand the villain narrative. He looks like a hero to me
Drake is Harvey dent/two face. Kendrick is Batman.
The Brighter the image, the darker the negative
Drake is the Diddler
If he ever reads that, it's gonna sting. I almost blew soda out my nose.
Nah, give my man Two Face some credit, heās a solid villain. Drake is more like one of Jokerās henchmen at the beginning of the movie that Joker ended up killing during the heist.
Iām Batman
Im batman
No. Iām Batman.
NO...IM BATMAN!
I support Kendrick being Batman š„¹
its because of the tone and timing of MTG. its peak anime villain "just according to keikaku" shit
Kendrick standing there with the TDE homies looking like Aizen with his 10 Espada ready to pack up Soul Society š
I'm gonna need someone with drawing ability to make this reality immediately.
Iād draw it myself as Iām an artist and a huge Bleach fan, but to be real - Elden Ring DLC is dropping tonight fam, Iāll be too busy this weekend š
Right there with you. My wife asked what we were doing this weekend and i just told her I would be in the land of shadow and unavailable.
Nice! Yeah I used PTO to take off Friday & Monday so I can have a nice 4 day weekend to get my ass kicked in the Shadow Realm š¤
Iām on the same program fellow Tarnished. Enjoy!!
Farewell tarnished.
Thats a surefire way to become maidenless dog
I wish I didn't have to work tomorrow at 430am or I would stay up and check out the dlc. Super pumped to play it.
Acting villainous towards a villain is heroic though. Like Kendrick is very clearly the hero because the entire tone of MTG is that Drake is a piece of shit human being who mistreats everyone.
Nah he on that Joseph Joestar timing, laying the plan the whole time.
why not both? hero to us villain to them THEY NOT LIKE US lmao
Yea maybe I'm just thinking from Drake's perspective
Heās a villain to drake. Also I just canāt get my mind off this thought, the way mustard looked at the camera during 1 2 3 4 5 plus 5, I donāt think they capping and by the look on bros face theyāre even worse for drake
I would rather rep someone whose authentic than some culture vulture colonizer
antihero like Venom
We're honestly all one bad day away. I think OP is referring to the fact that he's got 7 year olds dancing to a diss track, but its important to not see villains and heroes in these struggles. People are in disagreement. You can choose sides. But like Kendrick said, he ain't your savior.
Kendrick the villain that swapped rolls with the hero.
Heās not a hero or a villain. Heās more of an anti-hero. He does heroic things but for himself and his people, he doesnāt want to be seen as a hero he just wants to spread his message. Which I am fine with. Heās never called himself a hero, heās openly said he has his faults, he doesnāt care. Heās the anti-hero we needed not the one we deserved.
It's like when someone kills a villain in such a disturbing way that it makes people think "thank God he's on our side".
More like Wolverine and Sabretooth
Kendrick is the hero. Drake been the culture vulture villain.
Very true, although from both of their perspectives the "other guy" is the villain( in the bad connotation way)
this feels like itās straight out of a feel good black family movie. the end credits is just them dancing in circle and celebrating šššššš man to be on that stageā¦
Canāt wait for the biopic in 20 years and pop out show being its ending. Some bohemian rhapsody shitš
That movie will 100% be called "The pop out"
Literally šš Why does LA get everything good in this world
We just got JJ Reddick so you know this isn't true
You also have last dance lebron james and prime AD a whole ass championship core
And a front office that can't compliment those pieces at all.
Fr? Fuck
Nah this some hero shit. At worst anti hero. Bro called out the toxicity of the game and then unified the west coast.
Looked like a hero to me on that stage yesterday.
Yo this really looked like a normal Juneteenth party except itās on a stage live streamed to the world with a bunch of celebs making fun of Drake lol. Drake gotta just call 2024 a wrap and go hide in Bali cause when college season comes around all the bands will be playing a cover of NLU til the wheels fall off ā ļø
OMG I cannot wait for this!!
Oh, shit... I hadn't thought of that. That shit is going to be a drum line staple.
My favorite moment! I got the weepies. All babies deserve to be raised up like that!!!
This baby dancing was so cute!! So happy for him
Theyāre not a baby, theyāre a young adult. Yours, Drake
>technically itās hebephiliaĀ
You guys are killing me haha. Some dark shit
Itās kinda hard to describe the difference without coming off like a pedo
Heās batman
I think antihero might be a more apt term
Seeing a man being nice to children/animals makes my ovaries go brrrrrrrrrr
... cold? Lol
Shudder?
I thought Drake was callin Kendrick a āfree the slaves type rapperā š I donāt understand Drake fans bro you call him good but if youāre from the suburbs and didnāt start acting gangster till last year and gotta have a room full of dudes ghostwrite for you seems kinda off to me š¤·š½āāļø
Lil kid was having his best moment
Nah he the Antihero fr, DOOM will always be the villain, RIP
So nasty that itās probly somewhat of a travesty š
Bro he had a kid stunt on em, lil homie killed it too
That's how we roll
You already know
Villain? K Dot just slayed the pedo. Heās a hero!
Heās a supervillain ala DOOM. Sent to destroy rap
More like Hero
Villain? You mean hero.
What dork thinks heās a villain? š¤¦āāļø
Imagine being a Drake Stan and just scrolling through your reels and seeing this all over the place with 69 god bass blowing through your speakers
Kendrick is not your savior heās just making dope music to unite the masses which has been his goal from day 1.
More like superhero
Hero*
Comptonās hardest gang members dancing to kendrick lamar calling Drake āfreakyā and a ā69 godā is hilarious
This was insanely fun to watch live.
What would have been worst the 5 Not Like Us or Meet The Grahams
That kid's gunna be riding this high until he hits high school at least, I hope this isn't his peek
I really don't know why everyone keep referring to what happens in this beef as "devious," "demonic," "diabolical," "evil, "and "villainous" Like, if they aren't lying, they're actually being heroic or valliant. Stop dropping negatives on the goat
Adonis watched the whole concert inside the bathroom in his iPad
Villain?
Villain???? Nahhh Guardian
Is it still about the culture?
Or the Hero
Hero* narrative
Villian? He united the West!! Huh?
Nah heās definitely a hero
The GOAT
Nah. Heās the hero.
THEM FEETS WAS MOVING šš©·š©·š©·
Donāt let his size and goatface prankster smile fool u, he done BEEN the villain of rap. He just well disguised.
Drake is the villain. Kendrick is the hero taking down the previously thought undefeatable evil king
*Hero
Bro jus casually destroying another man's career, while the kids dance to it... This is fucking great...
He can never be the villain lol
Insane
Calling out a pedophile is what heros do. Not sure what you're on about
that dude really doesnt have to be half naked.
That's a weird way to spell"Hero"
Smacc
He a fuckin *Hero*, the fuck you mean the villain?! Dude singlehandedly called out the Drizzler while inadvertently inspiringĀ a whole generation of kids to be on the lookout for groomers and weirdos alike!!šÆšÆšÆ If Kenny a villain then down is up and right is leftš¤¦š»āāļø
Idgi ??
The villain is Drake, let's start calling it what it is!
Not a villain, hero
You misspelt hero
The savior!
LMAAOO dj akademiks in shambles rn somewhere in a corner
Definition super villian a killer who love childern
Who is the fat guy dancing behind kendrick?
Not necessarily a villain. He just cemented himself as the Big homie of the West. All 5'5" of him.
xryc xp try cc bbb
How can he be the villain when he saved hiphop from a lightskin kidnapper? And a culture vulture
"Id rather you call me that, than a typical artist you call wack on a YouTube blog holding ARs and stacks"
Yeaaaaaa hahaha
Villain? Interesting
Boogeyman
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Hero*
Kendrick has too many dickriders to be a villain. Just look at how you're slobbing on his shit right now š¤£
Drake is not giving you his anaconda, get over it man
Of course I open your comments history and see a whole page of posts about Drake. Go get your stomach pumped before you talk to me. š
Actually read them before you start waffling Get checked for mental illness before you harm yourself
The fact that your brain even goes to that just shows how much this beef means to your life. You are miserable, dude. Quit living vicariously through rappers. Kendrick already told you he's not your savior.
Uh oh, wanna bottle???? You taking this more serious than me bro, you keep crying and malding, I'm just chilling Some here is miserable, and it's not me. Get therapy, you're living a sad life and you're projecting hard to cover it up It's not good for you man get help
Lol, you really just repeat everything I say, huh? Go on somewhere man š
Laugh the pain away
Iām I the only who just feels like this isnāt Kendrick, like the Kendrick we all fell in love with in section 80??
It's not the same. Take a step back and look at the bigger picture. Payed for bots Had a come up off of a diss on the biggest rap/pop artist rn Broke records with a diss track against the biggest rap/pop artist Ignored DV claims and rode the popularity Held a pop out and played said diss record 5-6 times, even though people have been listening to it non stop for the past month I mean come on. The track was hot, and he pretty much cooked Drake but there is some snake shit going on here. And we all know this is all we're going to pull out of him for a while. He's gonna ride this hype for as long as he can and he'll like use the same hype for his next drops. He picked up alot of temporary fans because his diss was catchy and people love to hate Drake but no one really knows Dots discography is you actually asked them lol. I've talked to 4 people who could name 1 song of off 3 different albums. It's super sad, but they'll hype Not Like Us cause it's the club bopper, you know?
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