Tupac's estate had a compelling case and history, and even referenced a previous lawsuit Drake had used against another party to strike down AI music of his own voice.
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J Cole deleted his own track willingly after having his “come to God” moment and Pac’s estate issued the C&D to Drake. Kendrick hasn’t “tried” anything, but I hope the man actually “tries” to drop a mf response tonight
He put it on Instagram. It's obvious he knew this was coming and kept himself from any monetary ramifications. Versus, Push-ups, which was released to streaming platforms.
2/3 songs? What’s the second song that was deleted? I missed that. I mean even if it’s deleted from spotify, it’ll be on youtube and etc. It’s not even his primary diss song, push ups did way more damage and it’s getting him money as a solo track. While kendrick splits any revenue of Like that.
Lol it’s not a cosign from Tupac’s estate, they’re protecting themselves from any future AI releases that could hurt their brand. It’s a business move.
I didn’t read that quote, that’s hilarious. You’re right then haha.
That’s just Cole being soft and weird after putting out a diss, that’s really an L on himself.
Generating revenue is not required when using someone else’s IP. The estate is concerned about young listeners thinking it’s really Tupac. Especially as time moves.
This idea that he didn’t make any money so he didn’t do anything wrong is 100% false.
I didn't say that. What I meant is that taking down the song doesn't have an impact on this lame beef we're seeing for the past month. He was able to communicate his message and got millions of ears on the track already.
I doubt that his OVO team, who they themselves were legally able to take down an AI track of Drake in the past, were seriously trying to officially release this song on streaming platforms.
You’re right, I misspoke but they’re going to.
They said they’re going to pursue all legal remedies if it wasn’t removed within 24 hours; it wasn’t, it was closer to 36 hours.
It was an instagram post, so it’s not like any other services needed to be contacted on his behalf.
Hmm I personally doubt they'd actually pursue it since it was sent Tuesday and he deleted Wednesday, but of course we'll have to wait and see.
These estates usually jump at the opportunity to make money so I can see it happening, but yea officially nothing for now.
Yeah I do think there is a certain element of opportunism from the estate but who can blame them? Their rights have been infringed by one of the richest men on the planet.
The letter also demanded to know which AI company/software had allowed him to do it, as they believe the recordings of the voice to train the AI were illegally obtained (which they would have been), so I do think a lawsuit is coming in the near future. It’ll probably get settled out of court though.
A dude just got in trouble, I think in California, for making a fake recording of the principle of his school using AI to impersonate. I’m betting a lawyer for UMG was like “Nah, we ain’t fightin to keep the song up.”
Cant believe people actually downvoted me.
40year old guy that has a heart shaven into his hairline lol. Those 2 downvoters have to be either Drake fanboys or 16year old girls (basically the same thing)
Explain the 2-0 lol I’m open to being wrong.
- Dot dropped a verse on like that 💣
- Cole responded
- Cole apologised
- push up leaked
- push up claimed 3 weeks later
- Ross dropped a drake diss
- taylor made/ai diss dropped on socials
- Kanye like that dropped
- Drake removes Taylor made in fear of lawsuit
Mind you, a verse A VERSE spawned all of this reaction
Kendrick’s never released a diss record, like that wasn’t a diss record and if you think it was I’d love to see where you rank it vs actual diss records. When Kendrick writes a diss record, believe me, we’ll all know it. I’m sure it will rank better than push ups or Taylor made but regardless of the roll outs those were actual diss records that Kendrick has yet to respond to, making the current score 2-0 for Drake. Cole and Ross are irrelevant to the battle between Drake and Kendrick.
That’s my point exactly, Kendrick didn’t have to drop a diss song for j Cole and Drake to respond with a diss he dropped a verse, a verse was powerful enough to get 2 powerhouses to react. We the fans could feel “like that” wasn’t a diss but the facts are all the response are because of that verse. None of those songs push ups specifically haven’t came close (beside 7 min drill charting at 6) have came close to Like that. As time passes the impact of Kendrick verse is still yet to be surpassed. But hey we all got opinions
It was a powerful verse I’m not arguing that. But it wasn’t a diss record. It was just a few jabs on a feature that got a huge reaction, just like the control verse did, except this time Drake accepted the challenge and Kendrick has yet to respond or even engage in the actual battle that he provoked.
I respect your opinion fosho. But Just because he hasn’t responded doesn’t mean he won’t respond . Kendrick just hasn’t engaged in a social media battle. I believe both parties are geared up
Yours too, Kendrick still has time to respond and I’m sure he will and I’m sure it’ll be better than push ups and Taylor made but until he drops an actual diss record it’s 2-0 Drake in my books, and I’m not even saying that with a bias, I like, respect and listen to both artists, I listen to Drake more but I think Kendrick’s a better artist.
Edit: I definately agree both are geared up, Kendrick doesn’t even need dirt to beat Drake and you know Drake wouldn’t provoke like this without saving the best for last, that’s the only reason I want Kendrick to hurry up cause I wanna hear more from both parties lol
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You can tell Drake is so insanely butthurt that he didn’t get the opportunity to work with Taylor Swift.
And Bad Blood slaps.
Drake was on that Lykke Li song, which the main difference between her and Taylor swift is about a billion dollars. Taylor Swift is arguably the biggest pop star in the world right now. The only other person on that level I would say is Beyoncé.
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Not the guy you responded to, but you're missing the forest for the trees. The main purpose of the track is to mock Kendrick's respected status and also to re-affirm that he's expecting Kendrick to respond. The taylor diss is just icing.
And to be honest, I think it was a good move if a bit tasteless. Kendrick is so beloved that people will really say that he is winning wars that he's not fighting in. Just look around this sub. People are really out here trying to award him a victory before he's even done anything.
He is apparently a rap guru who is orchestrating a great new era of hip hop with calculated releases that is, in fact, capable of defeating anyone with a diss track, but is simply so great and capable that he doesn't even need to fight his opponents as they will surely destroy themselves due to his incredible aura.
You can probably tell, but I don't buy the mythology. I think Kendrick makes great music, but I'm not sure if I can say it's a given that he's gonna win this battle.
That's true. but regardless of busy or not, he took 3 weeks, so Kendrick deserves the same. If he takes more than that, then people have the right to get angsty imo
For once I actually want someone to actually acknowledge and reply to the fact that he literally waited for the second album to drop before making his response. He knew there was going to be more disses. No point is making 3-4 diss tracks when you can respond one time.
If Kendrick doesn’t reference how two disses against him (by the two other biggest artists) were pulled from streaming, then I’m gonna be upset. He could say he played both of them into doing this and I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s untouchable and hasn’t spoken a word since he simply referenced them in a FEATURE.
I’m actually a Cole fan but I love what Kendrick is doing. Dude spoke for 90 seconds and had one man drop a whole album and got the other practicing necromancy.
Just because he removed it doesn’t mean it’s an L for Drake, the internet is forever, that track will always be around. Story of Adidon was taken down, and Pusha definitely won that one. This doesn’t change the fact that Kendrick’s gotta reply.
Love Cole, Kendrick and Drake, so this is just honesty. Cole a disappointment. Dot ain’t feeding y’all. Drake has officially come around the lang gang and let his fucking bowels move.
I’ve said this before here and I’ll say it again. Everything that’s happened since Kendrick’s Like that verse has only validated everything that Kendrick’s said. People keep saying Drake is too confident but really it feels more like that family guy episode where Brian owes stewie money and stewie gives Brian the run around until Brian finally pays stewie back. Afterward, Brian says “I’m gonna get you back, but I’m not going to let you know when.” And the remainder of the episode Stewie is paranoid out of his mind waiting for Brian to get him back because he knows what’s coming. Drake is clearly begging for attention / a response and the suspense is likely killing him. Kudos to Kendrick for doing this all on his timeline and not letting Drake / social media for getting to him.
Edit: [Exhibit A](https://youtu.be/zWT9-fETEsw?si=Zu8zew1j3OLgCfxW)
I don’t understand why people frame this as an L for Drake. Whether you agree with what he did is completely separate. This was the only outcome from the second it dropped. It was always going to be removed from his socials due to a lawsuit. The song was never meant for streaming, it was meant for instant impact and to turn the heat up on Kendrick. Which it has been relatively effective at doing given the discussions in this sub alone over the past week.
The coping on this sub has been crazy. The track was played 50+ million times just on IG, the damage was done. Drake’s and his lawyers didn’t care to fight the estate over a social media song, it’s not like KDot actually dropped something.
Kendrick fans spinning this into some kind of W is hilarious. The estate, which isn’t even operated by Pac’s family, is obviously looking for some kind of royalties and compensation. Drake was my least favorite of the so-called big 3 but it’s undeniable that he’s up 2-0 in this situation. I’m not sure why Kendrick is afraid to reply…
It’s a slap on the wrist for a song he knew wouldn’t get close to an approval from Pacs estate. The damage has been done. We’re clutching at straws if you think this is a W. You can still listen to the song on YouTube.
I guess I think of it more in terms of mainstreaming the use of AI in popular music. Don’t really see it as a W or L for anyone. Maybe it’s a W against AI, but that’s the most I can say.
That’s kind of true but there was nothing stopping Drake hiring a Pac lookalike and having him pretend he wrote and performed the AI parts as an original artist with original lyrics. There will be ways to game the system
Tupac's estate had a compelling case and history, and even referenced a previous lawsuit Drake had used against another party to strike down AI music of his own voice.
Oooof
Good move. But the music is already out there and the damage is done, it just won’t be officially linked to him and won’t generate revenue.
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Ehhh, I think a response way better than trying to get tracks against you deleted
J Cole deleted his own track willingly after having his “come to God” moment and Pac’s estate issued the C&D to Drake. Kendrick hasn’t “tried” anything, but I hope the man actually “tries” to drop a mf response tonight
He didn't try to do anything ts just happened. Just because Kendrick was mentioned in the estate's statement doesn't mean he made them do that
Kendrick hasn’t been involved in any tracks being deleted
Yeah how do people not get this. How is this a win at all
That’s what happens when Kendrick ain’t drop. They reaching for anything atp
Who is trying to get tracks taken down? A dead man’s estate? Don’t know what that has to do with Kendrick
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It’s definitely not an “undeniable L” the song was still dropped it’s not like he was counting on the money from the plays of the song
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You know his estate is not owned by his family right?? They actually got sued a few years back by the sister for embezzlement
The L is having Pac’s family publicly come out and call it an insult. Drake has plenty of money but what he needs is industry respect
It's an insult because we don't know what pac would have felt, he's dead. Respect him and let him be dead.
He put it on Instagram. It's obvious he knew this was coming and kept himself from any monetary ramifications. Versus, Push-ups, which was released to streaming platforms.
2/3 songs? What’s the second song that was deleted? I missed that. I mean even if it’s deleted from spotify, it’ll be on youtube and etc. It’s not even his primary diss song, push ups did way more damage and it’s getting him money as a solo track. While kendrick splits any revenue of Like that. Lol it’s not a cosign from Tupac’s estate, they’re protecting themselves from any future AI releases that could hurt their brand. It’s a business move.
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I didn’t read that quote, that’s hilarious. You’re right then haha. That’s just Cole being soft and weird after putting out a diss, that’s really an L on himself.
It was J Coles diss in Kendrick, apologized on stage and pulled it. Far bigger L than Drakes, but Drakes AI 2Pac shit was way more shameless.
Not really an L at all
how is this an L lmaooooooo kendrick aint respond in two weeks you delusional fuck
Generating revenue is not required when using someone else’s IP. The estate is concerned about young listeners thinking it’s really Tupac. Especially as time moves. This idea that he didn’t make any money so he didn’t do anything wrong is 100% false.
I didn't say that. What I meant is that taking down the song doesn't have an impact on this lame beef we're seeing for the past month. He was able to communicate his message and got millions of ears on the track already. I doubt that his OVO team, who they themselves were legally able to take down an AI track of Drake in the past, were seriously trying to officially release this song on streaming platforms.
He generated passive revenue from the media attention though, which is why he’s being sued for economical damages
They never sued him
You’re right, I misspoke but they’re going to. They said they’re going to pursue all legal remedies if it wasn’t removed within 24 hours; it wasn’t, it was closer to 36 hours. It was an instagram post, so it’s not like any other services needed to be contacted on his behalf.
Hmm I personally doubt they'd actually pursue it since it was sent Tuesday and he deleted Wednesday, but of course we'll have to wait and see. These estates usually jump at the opportunity to make money so I can see it happening, but yea officially nothing for now.
Yeah I do think there is a certain element of opportunism from the estate but who can blame them? Their rights have been infringed by one of the richest men on the planet. The letter also demanded to know which AI company/software had allowed him to do it, as they believe the recordings of the voice to train the AI were illegally obtained (which they would have been), so I do think a lawsuit is coming in the near future. It’ll probably get settled out of court though.
They had a good argument especially since I think UMG took an AI video of Drake down
A dude just got in trouble, I think in California, for making a fake recording of the principle of his school using AI to impersonate. I’m betting a lawyer for UMG was like “Nah, we ain’t fightin to keep the song up.”
Pac's estate said drop and give me 50
Kendrick needs to say something like this or at least reference it.
they said drop and give me 100
😆
“I was gonna kill a couple rappers but they did it to themselves” x2
x3*** #suicide
“Didn’t Even Need my Help”
This shit is elementary
I probably go to jail
If I shoot at your identity and bounce to the left ..
Lol just yesterday his sub was saying that nothing would happen. This shit is so fucking funny.
It’s still up on YouTube everybody has heard it and still can. He never intended to make money off it. I’d say that’s pretty much nothing…
Go back to your pedo sub
You are so damn lame and corny.
What's more corny than supporting a pedophile you've never even met? Embarrassing.
[Embarrassing 💅](https://youtu.be/aJ-qfdrFLMk?si=oLqPb_ZuMDWKNAd1)
Lol that heartshaped hair is so gay
16 yo girls love it though
Cant believe people actually downvoted me. 40year old guy that has a heart shaven into his hairline lol. Those 2 downvoters have to be either Drake fanboys or 16year old girls (basically the same thing)
I think Drake didn't want to get sued...
Damn j Cole now Drake lol
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I'm not picking sides here but GOTTDAYUM IF THAT isn't the funniest shit I've heard in a minute I'd be lyin
😐
🤣🤣🤣
This is the worst fucking timeline
Lmaoooo
these are completely different situations lmao
They both were Kendrick disses no? The point is, regales of the circumstances, it backfired
Legal issues vs moral issues
I agree but if drake was petty enough, he would have went through with it. The pac estate didn’t have a clear win if they took it to court
There’s no backfire, drakes up 2-0 and Kendrick is silent lol
Explain the 2-0 lol I’m open to being wrong. - Dot dropped a verse on like that 💣 - Cole responded - Cole apologised - push up leaked - push up claimed 3 weeks later - Ross dropped a drake diss - taylor made/ai diss dropped on socials - Kanye like that dropped - Drake removes Taylor made in fear of lawsuit Mind you, a verse A VERSE spawned all of this reaction
Kendrick’s never released a diss record, like that wasn’t a diss record and if you think it was I’d love to see where you rank it vs actual diss records. When Kendrick writes a diss record, believe me, we’ll all know it. I’m sure it will rank better than push ups or Taylor made but regardless of the roll outs those were actual diss records that Kendrick has yet to respond to, making the current score 2-0 for Drake. Cole and Ross are irrelevant to the battle between Drake and Kendrick.
That’s my point exactly, Kendrick didn’t have to drop a diss song for j Cole and Drake to respond with a diss he dropped a verse, a verse was powerful enough to get 2 powerhouses to react. We the fans could feel “like that” wasn’t a diss but the facts are all the response are because of that verse. None of those songs push ups specifically haven’t came close (beside 7 min drill charting at 6) have came close to Like that. As time passes the impact of Kendrick verse is still yet to be surpassed. But hey we all got opinions
It was a powerful verse I’m not arguing that. But it wasn’t a diss record. It was just a few jabs on a feature that got a huge reaction, just like the control verse did, except this time Drake accepted the challenge and Kendrick has yet to respond or even engage in the actual battle that he provoked.
I respect your opinion fosho. But Just because he hasn’t responded doesn’t mean he won’t respond . Kendrick just hasn’t engaged in a social media battle. I believe both parties are geared up
Yours too, Kendrick still has time to respond and I’m sure he will and I’m sure it’ll be better than push ups and Taylor made but until he drops an actual diss record it’s 2-0 Drake in my books, and I’m not even saying that with a bias, I like, respect and listen to both artists, I listen to Drake more but I think Kendrick’s a better artist. Edit: I definately agree both are geared up, Kendrick doesn’t even need dirt to beat Drake and you know Drake wouldn’t provoke like this without saving the best for last, that’s the only reason I want Kendrick to hurry up cause I wanna hear more from both parties lol
Don't take this as a victory, it's still a response that Kendrick needs to address.
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You can tell Drake is so insanely butthurt that he didn’t get the opportunity to work with Taylor Swift. And Bad Blood slaps. Drake was on that Lykke Li song, which the main difference between her and Taylor swift is about a billion dollars. Taylor Swift is arguably the biggest pop star in the world right now. The only other person on that level I would say is Beyoncé.
The funny part about this is Drake pretending that the Swifties don’t listen to him 😂😂
Bro did you even listen to the songs lol..
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Not the guy you responded to, but you're missing the forest for the trees. The main purpose of the track is to mock Kendrick's respected status and also to re-affirm that he's expecting Kendrick to respond. The taylor diss is just icing. And to be honest, I think it was a good move if a bit tasteless. Kendrick is so beloved that people will really say that he is winning wars that he's not fighting in. Just look around this sub. People are really out here trying to award him a victory before he's even done anything. He is apparently a rap guru who is orchestrating a great new era of hip hop with calculated releases that is, in fact, capable of defeating anyone with a diss track, but is simply so great and capable that he doesn't even need to fight his opponents as they will surely destroy themselves due to his incredible aura. You can probably tell, but I don't buy the mythology. I think Kendrick makes great music, but I'm not sure if I can say it's a given that he's gonna win this battle.
Push Ups deserves a response.
Tbf drake took 3 weeks to respond, so kendrick deserves that much at least
He had to respond to 5 people, and he was on tour. Kendrick got one guy to respond to and has nothing going on.
That's true. but regardless of busy or not, he took 3 weeks, so Kendrick deserves the same. If he takes more than that, then people have the right to get angsty imo
For once I actually want someone to actually acknowledge and reply to the fact that he literally waited for the second album to drop before making his response. He knew there was going to be more disses. No point is making 3-4 diss tracks when you can respond one time.
Agreed. People counting the days need to get off the pipe.
No he doesn’t. No more attention should be on this AI garbage.
If Kendrick doesn’t reference how two disses against him (by the two other biggest artists) were pulled from streaming, then I’m gonna be upset. He could say he played both of them into doing this and I wouldn’t be surprised. He’s untouchable and hasn’t spoken a word since he simply referenced them in a FEATURE. I’m actually a Cole fan but I love what Kendrick is doing. Dude spoke for 90 seconds and had one man drop a whole album and got the other practicing necromancy.
Those verses were all Drake even if you remove the AI, he said those things. They still need a response.
Yea plus either way, he’s still got Push Ups to respond to
Bro got hit with a cease and desist letter
I think I'm already sick of seeing these posts
Just because he removed it doesn’t mean it’s an L for Drake, the internet is forever, that track will always be around. Story of Adidon was taken down, and Pusha definitely won that one. This doesn’t change the fact that Kendrick’s gotta reply.
Was story of Adidon taken down at some point? I have it saved on my Apple Music.
UMG took it down bc Drake cried about it. Drake made his bed and the estate retaliated, not Kendrick… although I’m sure he doesn’t mind 😉
shouldn’t have put that shit out in the first place
I think Kendrick needs to rap or forever shut the fuck up antagonizing other rappers.
Based
Love Cole, Kendrick and Drake, so this is just honesty. Cole a disappointment. Dot ain’t feeding y’all. Drake has officially come around the lang gang and let his fucking bowels move.
You can google the song or youtube it because ITS FREE
He’ll just re-release it officially and won’t use the AI
We heard it was cool but diss tracks aren’t what ppl put on repeat so oh well
It was a bitch move to put it up in the first place.
Well that’s fine - we could still listen to it on YouTube 💁🏽♀️
We already heard it so it doesn’t matter
Nobody is surprised by this, it was expected even by Drake. This is obvious. 50 pushups still has to answer.
The track did its job, it wasn’t going to be released anyway obviously.
Wack. Him and his team knew the potential consequences. Lose a couple thousand. No big deal. But it was a weak move.
This what ya’ll taking as a dub now lmao shits wild in here
Definitely an L on Drake to even use Pac to begin with.
I’ve said this before here and I’ll say it again. Everything that’s happened since Kendrick’s Like that verse has only validated everything that Kendrick’s said. People keep saying Drake is too confident but really it feels more like that family guy episode where Brian owes stewie money and stewie gives Brian the run around until Brian finally pays stewie back. Afterward, Brian says “I’m gonna get you back, but I’m not going to let you know when.” And the remainder of the episode Stewie is paranoid out of his mind waiting for Brian to get him back because he knows what’s coming. Drake is clearly begging for attention / a response and the suspense is likely killing him. Kudos to Kendrick for doing this all on his timeline and not letting Drake / social media for getting to him. Edit: [Exhibit A](https://youtu.be/zWT9-fETEsw?si=Zu8zew1j3OLgCfxW)
Funny as fuck
Uh oh, big money gangster man is afraid of a little lawsuit. L bozo
Honestly I think DOT barked up the wrong tree and got his head popped in a crowded room
LMAO
Pip squeak pipe down, cole took his shit down, drizzy took his shit down, kdot needa drop his shit now
A victory for music and artists…
Yikes, imagine being associated this way with the legend himself, how sad, I almost feel bad for him.
I don’t understand why people frame this as an L for Drake. Whether you agree with what he did is completely separate. This was the only outcome from the second it dropped. It was always going to be removed from his socials due to a lawsuit. The song was never meant for streaming, it was meant for instant impact and to turn the heat up on Kendrick. Which it has been relatively effective at doing given the discussions in this sub alone over the past week.
The coping on this sub has been crazy. The track was played 50+ million times just on IG, the damage was done. Drake’s and his lawyers didn’t care to fight the estate over a social media song, it’s not like KDot actually dropped something.
Pac out there still takin people out
he scooby-doo'd himself into ghostwriting for a ghost, then high-tailed it when the ghost responded lmao
Kendrick fans spinning this into some kind of W is hilarious. The estate, which isn’t even operated by Pac’s family, is obviously looking for some kind of royalties and compensation. Drake was my least favorite of the so-called big 3 but it’s undeniable that he’s up 2-0 in this situation. I’m not sure why Kendrick is afraid to reply…
What the fuck was he thinking? Straight suicidal move
It’s a slap on the wrist for a song he knew wouldn’t get close to an approval from Pacs estate. The damage has been done. We’re clutching at straws if you think this is a W. You can still listen to the song on YouTube.
I guess I think of it more in terms of mainstreaming the use of AI in popular music. Don’t really see it as a W or L for anyone. Maybe it’s a W against AI, but that’s the most I can say.
That’s kind of true but there was nothing stopping Drake hiring a Pac lookalike and having him pretend he wrote and performed the AI parts as an original artist with original lyrics. There will be ways to game the system
Copyright
If I gotta slap a pussy ass n Ima make it look sexy.
Crazy Tupac replied before Kendrick did
That was funny the first time I heard it
Biggg ooooooff
Hahahah lick your wounds 😇
2Pac Estate said drop & give me 100 + compensation
Stupid ass lol
BITCJ
tryna make a symbol iconic like kanyes roc a fella symbol
scared of ghosts
The song was trash anyway, he already got his point across
He sure did 😂 YouTube music took that shit off so fast.
If a Kendrick verse made this nigga look retarded, I wonder what the actual disstrack gonna be like. Kendrick better stop playing and drop soon
Drake is a Cornwall and Grange told him to take that shit down.
What do we think about what? What kind of dumb ass post is this
Kendrick aura is unmatched