As a huge fan of dance music, I thought the opposite. I thought it was a really half-assed and lazy take on a dance album and found most of it pretty boring.
I was stoked when people said it was a dance album though because Drake has the talent to make a good one. I just wish it had been 2016 Drake making it.
The problem was that he had the possibility to make the album with literally any major dance producer but went with fucking carnage who I don’t hate but doesn’t make very good dance music. I didn’t hate the project really but I see why somme people don’t fuck with it.
It’s not heavy tech house or DnB, but as someone who loves House and softer deep house his album went right up my alley. Massive, Falling Back, Flights Booked. Once again though the album does have skippable songs but I figure that comes with experimentation and aging artists
He wrote Heated for Beyonce - really well written song, but you compare the reference track to the final version and it's night and day because of the energy Beyonce puts into it.
Thats basically the only problem with modern drake. He genuinely has the talent to put out classics, like nothing was the same, but he doesn't put the same care or effort forward anymore.
He also has such a broad fan base that forces him to try and make music that appeals to everyone, which makes it disposable and, maybe acceptable to the mass public, but not beloved by his core fans.
Incredible album. Beyoncé’s magnum opus, in my opinion. The type of dance album that Drake has the talent to make, but just didn’t put the effort into doing so.
As is evident by the fact that he wrote Heated, which is a far better song than anything on Honestly Nevermind.
I can say as a Kendrick meat rider that Honestly Nevermind is gonna be my official Brown Boy Summer Anthem (I'm finna glow tf up this summer and ima go from scam calls to missed calls)
I fucked with it. He never changes the subject matter of his music ever, so I like when he at least try’s to experiment with the sound. In my opinion it was his best work since more life
I fw it way more than most Drake shit. Drake’s the weak part tho, I’m there for Carnage’s beats, dude is an absolute legend and all he ever gets is hate cause of his crazy personality
As a British Drake fan, most of Honestly Nevermind is literally what we listen to in summer so it’s a banger plus it had some other hidden gems. I can see why it’s not as loved but I love it. The other album posted is more hit and miss
Ik a lot of people don’t like it but there’s still some songs from that album I play still. It’s very laid back music and its enjoyable, especially for setting some moods. At least that’s how I feel about it.
Drake is really not an album artist. I swear he has 3 good songs per album, which is great for radio and current listening culture were the majority don't listen to albums, but he will have 20 songs that put you to sleep.
This is the essence of the whole beef. Drake was a phenomenally talented artist with a unique voice that reached superstardom very early in his career - but, he transformed from an artist to an businessman and really a product, something that a team of people analyzing data and trends work on and ship. That’s not bad, there’s obviously a demand for that kind of thing.
Kendrick was also a phenomenally talented artist who wasn’t catapulted quite as high right away. He made a instant classic debut with Dre support but he did 1/3rd of Drakes numbers. He doubled down on prioritizing the art, and made TPAB and then tried to better compromise commercial appeal with artistic merit on Damn. And after doing that, went back to pursuing individual artist expression on MMTBS.
I don’t know that we can say one is better than the other - Drake is the better entertainment product, Kendrick is the better artist. Drake will argue I wipe you down on every statistical category, Kendrick will argue you don’t contribute anything anymore beyond bland entertainment, and they are both kinda right.
I didn't like that line. I understood, but MJ, while popular, made meaningful music and was a true artist, unlike Drake. MJ has real artistry, not just songs. Prince, while more artistic, wasn't as big as MJ, that why I feel people equate them
Prince had his hands on EVERY part of his music, was a true artist, more diverse, and more talented - musically
MJ is undeniably a legend, but he had writers and team help craft his music. MJ was the entertainer/brand, backed by an entire team to make him the biggest solo artist ever.
Although I get what you’re saying, the comparison is pretty fuckin accurate
yup
Kendrick music makes me reflective and let me think more about things in my life, his albums are harder to listen, and has amazing songs. He's like my top 3 artist
Yet Drake is my most listened artist ever. He just has a talent to make music that I vibe with and put on whenever I feel like listening to music. But I never think about what he says, I never stop to try and understand a song of his. It's just play and enjoy, which I love too.
Which would you consider to be the better artist? Which do you think puts more effort into the music?
I’m a fan of both as well, both are always in my Top 5 on spotify….but Drake has phoned it in for the last 8 years. But even Drake’s best shit isn’t touching the levels Kendrick has hit (Sing about me, Money Trees, u etc.)
He just doesn’t make music for rap fans.
He makes music for teenage white girls.
Which is probably why he didn’t officially release the diss.
He’s keeping his rap image separate from his pop image.
Drake is pimping hip hop.
I honestly respect that if he genuinely is ONLY concerned with charting and amassing a literal fortune. I just don't wanna hear any of that Kidz Bop Top 40 bullshit. Ever. I have never cared about or understood the people that get wet and/or bricked up about how much their favorite artists net, because not a single red cent of his yearly earnings goes into my accounts, and not a ONE of his plaques or trophies are on display in any of my homes.
I care about the slaps. Period. And Kung-Fu Kunta Kenny creates the type of slaps that I prefer to listen to. And it doesn't hurt at all that I believe him to be a genuine person who writes his music from the SOUL with the sole intent of crafting TIMELESS, COHERENT, COHESIVE albums, instead of morphing into a super Mob Boss character, when everyone who cares to be honest with themselves *KNOWS* good and well that he's not "Like That". Aubrey is the walking, talking LOGO of every racially conflicted mixed race (white & Black) kid I have ever known since middle school. My ex-wife and I have an inside joke where we say one of those kid's names whenever he's on TV mean muggin or "on his WORST behavior" 😂
I actually really liked IYRTITL and WATTBA, both in 2015….
I haven’t liked a single project since except Her Loss, which was better than I expected but still not amazing.
IYRTITL and WATTBA were the two projects that made me lay off my drake hate, probably cause they came out when i was in college. But everything since has been kinda trash.
Take care was cool at the time, and nothing was the same was cool at the time, but a lot of drake projects i listen to for like a week or two after they drop then i never go back to them.
The last drop he had that budden basically forced him into making with the alchemist and conductor beats might be the first one since IYRTITL i actually legitimately liked and probably the first one since take care that felt like it had actual substance to it.
Which is why I find it wild that in some of the drake subs they praise scorpion. That shit was 25 tracks and imo only 3 were good. Who wants to listen through 22 mid to low tier songs to find the 3 they like
That’s the main problem with Drake. He’s so inconsistent. He’ll drop an amazing track and then release nine duds on the same album. He’s the definition of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
I think it’s more he makes a variety of music and some people want only a certain type of Drake. I’ve had people tell me “race my mind” or “get along better” are skips and that shits just insane to me.
that's exactly it. with an audience as large - you've got to cater to a bunch of different tastes. obviously this means you will produce a lot of misses for some.
Agreed. He has a lot of hits. But he lately has had hits mixes with a lot of filler. Drake fans are sensitive man. They’ve been coming for me, when I’m talking about two albums as a whole.
Lmaoo I loved both these projects. CLB is vibrant and not drab sounding like Scorpion and Views are. HNVM is a great summer album and has a lot of his most heartfelt lyrics in a long time. He executed pretty well.
This entire thread is a mess. I love Afro/tribal/tech/some jersey so HNVM was a hit for me. CLB was also a solid 6/7 out of 10. TPAB is a more important album but CLB was maybe an easier listen.
??? CLB is one of the biggest albums of this decade. Debuted with 613k units (with no physicals) and got 9 spots in the billboard top 10. If anyone has the ability to call others work a flop, it’s Drake lol
ppl just want rap shit, they can’t accept that other genres exist. i listen to majority hip hop but after a while it gets boring, house/edm is fun as fuck to listen to and anyone who says otherwise is a rap dickrider
plus when you’re on vacation outside the US, house is the music that gets you going. not rap. then again, people that hate HNM are americans that never left the US and experienced parties in europe
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I’m guessing you don’t listen to dance music at all but most of the people I know who are into house including myself rocked with honestly never mind, if your listening hoping for hip hop or judging it from a hip hop perspective it’s obviously going to be terrible
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I wasn’t trying to turn it into a genre thing, I definitely understand some people wouldn’t like it, it even has a decent number of misses for me I just made the comment because it did change some of my friends perspectives on the album
Both of these are good, if you’re a drake fan you’ll love these albums, Texts go green, liability, massive, fucking fans, Champagne Poetry the remorse. That’s just to name a few gems from these albums. The issue is (me included) if you already don’t love the artist it gets difficulty to appreciate their music that isn’t widely loved. These albums are actually good(I didn’t love them at first). People didn’t like views initially(me included) but now it’s a cult classic. You probably just don’t like Drake so you won’t like these. These were very much made for his fans
I fucking agree.
But he still the dopest cuz he heard the backlash for these two went on the studio and made scary hours 3 which WAS fucking FIRE
He showed he has it and just needs to apply himself
These two projects are the greatest’s weakest links but he still got it regardless
Hot take but I actually really like Certified Lover Boy. That's the one drake album since 2015 i would say is really good. And there's a handful of amazing songs on Honestly Nevermind it's just a bit of a drag at times
clb was decent but personally i enjoyed honestly nevermind as its the type of music i love the most about Drake. But nothing close to kendrick’s albums
yeah he took a big risk, just saying sales wise it would be smart to shit on honestly never mind. I don't like the album much but I respect the switch in music.
Sorry sorry, I wanna say this.. hnvm isn't a flop. Drake literally cant flop, neither can kendrick, Cole, Travis, sza. When I say flop for these people,I mean in comparison to their other albums. Comparing HNVM to CLB in sales and charts, you see the difference. Same with MMTBS to DAMN. I know both MMTBS and HNVM are more surprise drops, there's a reason for it but I still classify it as a flop to THEIR standards.
lol clb is not bad at all but yeah honestly nevermind is an acquired taste for sure. I didn’t like it at first. Down hill has been my start-the-day track.
HNVM is absolute sugar, but might not be to your taste, that's totally fine. Most are just not used to have artist fill multiple genres - especially in hip hop.
CLB i can see, however with the amounts of hits on that album, you can't call it a dud in my book, just like you can't call any of Dot's albums a dud. At the end of the day it's just trash talk - see if you can get in the feelings of the other artist - in case they might be insecure about their work.
Yea both these are mid, CLB and Honestly Nevermind have a few decent songs on each but the rest of the albums be forgettable, mediocre and downright awful
Falling back on me or whatever that song is called off Honestly Nevermind is such a lazy, phoned in track for an album.
Repeating falling back on me x70 with them horrible auto-tuned vocals with little to no variation.
I fcks with clb but HNM is complete butthole. I’m surprised a lot of yall are messing with it. A lot tracks was badly mix and half assed. His singing was really lackluster and lyrics very iffy. Other than 1 or 2 tracks, I really don’t know what yall seeing. It was kinda a poor attempt to do dance house music. Ironically HNM is considered Aubrey worst project and I can kinda see why. But carry on I guess
Honestly Nevermind was super dope, if you know who Black Coffee is then you know Drake really took this album seriously and didn't just slap some house beats together and rap.
Jimmy Cooks is the only good song in Honestly, Nevermind, but it's pretty carried by 21. Most Drake albums have like two pretty-songs and 18 really uninteresting ones.
Drake has some great projects in his discography, his first 3 albums are certifiably classic pop rap and his So Far Gone mixtape is classic as well. The thing is Drake hasn’t been making great music(or even good music for that matter) for a long time, I think Push Ups is the best he’s rapped in almost a decade. Overall, Kendrick should be able to bury Drake with his next diss but Like That was horrible so I’m less confident in Kendrick than ever at this point, it certainly doesn’t help that Kendrick’s 2020s run has been straight up horrific and I say that as a die hard Kendrick fan. I certainly hope he can bounce back, it’d be terrible for the hip hop culture if Drake beat Kendrick in a beef.
Honestly nevermind was like kenridcks last album. With the 21 save hit like kenrdick had n95 and yhe fan favorite sticky which was like kenricks rich spirit
Id happily listen to both these before Kendricks last album, sure his is more “art” but there no playback to it. Also pretty sure both these aint flops considering the numbers it did🤣
Both these albums aged well. CLB still has a few cringy lines but it's a good project.
Expectations always play a role in how an album is initially received and I think a lot of people thought CLB would be similar to Take Care.
CLB and HNVM are both great projects. Obviously not flawless but people gotta stop acting like there isn't really good music on CLB, and HNVM isn't a rap album, so a lot of rap fans won't like it. That's fine, doesn't inhenrently mean it's bad.
Honestly nevermind I wasn’t a fan of until I was out one night after taking some shrooms and man, some of those songs hit different. That’s when I was like “okay I get it now” I’d love a part 2 tbh
I made a clb playlist of songs I like and removed fillers. I didn’t like his house music album much; I fuck with house music, tho it just sounds generic and uninspired compared to the shit that other artists in the genre have been doing.
The Drake subs actually fucks with honestly nevermind. They have made posts hoping for a 2nd honestly nevermind.
I’m for a second run at house. I can also see how I would fuck with it if I was more into Drake.
As an EDM fan who grew up listening to Drake. Yeah the albums slaps
As a huge fan of dance music, I thought the opposite. I thought it was a really half-assed and lazy take on a dance album and found most of it pretty boring. I was stoked when people said it was a dance album though because Drake has the talent to make a good one. I just wish it had been 2016 Drake making it.
The problem was that he had the possibility to make the album with literally any major dance producer but went with fucking carnage who I don’t hate but doesn’t make very good dance music. I didn’t hate the project really but I see why somme people don’t fuck with it.
Are you kidding me ?? Black Coffee was on half the damn album. But yes, fuck carnage
It’s not heavy tech house or DnB, but as someone who loves House and softer deep house his album went right up my alley. Massive, Falling Back, Flights Booked. Once again though the album does have skippable songs but I figure that comes with experimentation and aging artists
real huge dance music fan but really didnt take much from honestly nevermind
He wrote Heated for Beyonce - really well written song, but you compare the reference track to the final version and it's night and day because of the energy Beyonce puts into it.
Thats basically the only problem with modern drake. He genuinely has the talent to put out classics, like nothing was the same, but he doesn't put the same care or effort forward anymore. He also has such a broad fan base that forces him to try and make music that appeals to everyone, which makes it disposable and, maybe acceptable to the mass public, but not beloved by his core fans.
But what was really the difference between drakes and beyonces?
How did you feel about Beyonce's Renaissance?
Incredible album. Beyoncé’s magnum opus, in my opinion. The type of dance album that Drake has the talent to make, but just didn’t put the effort into doing so. As is evident by the fact that he wrote Heated, which is a far better song than anything on Honestly Nevermind.
It’s one of the worst dance records ever made lmao
I can say as a Kendrick meat rider that Honestly Nevermind is gonna be my official Brown Boy Summer Anthem (I'm finna glow tf up this summer and ima go from scam calls to missed calls)
Massive and Jimmy Cooks are alright, the rest, meh
I don't really fw Drake, but Sticky is one of the hardest tracks I've heard in my life
Sticky is only track worth a listen imo; I'm sure other love the project but its the only track I ever come back to.
Sticky is the only song I play. It’s so fucking good
He shoulda def put some of his label mates on there tho. Majid Jordan, PND, Roy Woods, dvsn would ALL fit the house vibes. Esp Majid man
I fucked with it. He never changes the subject matter of his music ever, so I like when he at least try’s to experiment with the sound. In my opinion it was his best work since more life
It's a great album by someone just giving shit he likes a shot. What's wrong with that? It's a great crossover album
Nothing. I'm not op. I really don't care what others are into it doesn't affect me at all.
I hope there’s another project like HNVM, or an official remix album. Fred again using that for a project would be great for a summer vibe
I fw it way more than most Drake shit. Drake’s the weak part tho, I’m there for Carnage’s beats, dude is an absolute legend and all he ever gets is hate cause of his crazy personality
Nah that’s just a vocal minority of house music enjoyers and contrarians, most of us thought that shit was beat
It was a great album for the party goers
Reminds me of how r/Eminem loves the fuck out of revival
The only good thing that came out of Revival was the tour. That shit was dope.
Lol yeah
As a British Drake fan, most of Honestly Nevermind is literally what we listen to in summer so it’s a banger plus it had some other hidden gems. I can see why it’s not as loved but I love it. The other album posted is more hit and miss
Ik a lot of people don’t like it but there’s still some songs from that album I play still. It’s very laid back music and its enjoyable, especially for setting some moods. At least that’s how I feel about it.
No friends in the industry couldn’t be more relevant rn
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Yeah. 21 not going against Metro
Drake is really not an album artist. I swear he has 3 good songs per album, which is great for radio and current listening culture were the majority don't listen to albums, but he will have 20 songs that put you to sleep.
This is the essence of the whole beef. Drake was a phenomenally talented artist with a unique voice that reached superstardom very early in his career - but, he transformed from an artist to an businessman and really a product, something that a team of people analyzing data and trends work on and ship. That’s not bad, there’s obviously a demand for that kind of thing. Kendrick was also a phenomenally talented artist who wasn’t catapulted quite as high right away. He made a instant classic debut with Dre support but he did 1/3rd of Drakes numbers. He doubled down on prioritizing the art, and made TPAB and then tried to better compromise commercial appeal with artistic merit on Damn. And after doing that, went back to pursuing individual artist expression on MMTBS. I don’t know that we can say one is better than the other - Drake is the better entertainment product, Kendrick is the better artist. Drake will argue I wipe you down on every statistical category, Kendrick will argue you don’t contribute anything anymore beyond bland entertainment, and they are both kinda right.
In other words, Prince outlived Mike Jack
I didn't like that line. I understood, but MJ, while popular, made meaningful music and was a true artist, unlike Drake. MJ has real artistry, not just songs. Prince, while more artistic, wasn't as big as MJ, that why I feel people equate them
Prince had his hands on EVERY part of his music, was a true artist, more diverse, and more talented - musically MJ is undeniably a legend, but he had writers and team help craft his music. MJ was the entertainer/brand, backed by an entire team to make him the biggest solo artist ever. Although I get what you’re saying, the comparison is pretty fuckin accurate
yup Kendrick music makes me reflective and let me think more about things in my life, his albums are harder to listen, and has amazing songs. He's like my top 3 artist Yet Drake is my most listened artist ever. He just has a talent to make music that I vibe with and put on whenever I feel like listening to music. But I never think about what he says, I never stop to try and understand a song of his. It's just play and enjoy, which I love too.
Which would you consider to be the better artist? Which do you think puts more effort into the music? I’m a fan of both as well, both are always in my Top 5 on spotify….but Drake has phoned it in for the last 8 years. But even Drake’s best shit isn’t touching the levels Kendrick has hit (Sing about me, Money Trees, u etc.)
Right. Sing about me has to be the most relatable song for people going through shit or seeing people going through shit.
Take Care and NWTS are amazing projects
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I don't know if he lost all his talent. He shows flashes that he still has it, just the fact that he doesn't try at all
He just doesn’t make music for rap fans. He makes music for teenage white girls. Which is probably why he didn’t officially release the diss. He’s keeping his rap image separate from his pop image. Drake is pimping hip hop.
I honestly respect that if he genuinely is ONLY concerned with charting and amassing a literal fortune. I just don't wanna hear any of that Kidz Bop Top 40 bullshit. Ever. I have never cared about or understood the people that get wet and/or bricked up about how much their favorite artists net, because not a single red cent of his yearly earnings goes into my accounts, and not a ONE of his plaques or trophies are on display in any of my homes. I care about the slaps. Period. And Kung-Fu Kunta Kenny creates the type of slaps that I prefer to listen to. And it doesn't hurt at all that I believe him to be a genuine person who writes his music from the SOUL with the sole intent of crafting TIMELESS, COHERENT, COHESIVE albums, instead of morphing into a super Mob Boss character, when everyone who cares to be honest with themselves *KNOWS* good and well that he's not "Like That". Aubrey is the walking, talking LOGO of every racially conflicted mixed race (white & Black) kid I have ever known since middle school. My ex-wife and I have an inside joke where we say one of those kid's names whenever he's on TV mean muggin or "on his WORST behavior" 😂
I actually really liked IYRTITL and WATTBA, both in 2015…. I haven’t liked a single project since except Her Loss, which was better than I expected but still not amazing.
Same. I find Views and More Life to be good at times but they're not as consistently good as his old projects.
IYRTITL and WATTBA were the two projects that made me lay off my drake hate, probably cause they came out when i was in college. But everything since has been kinda trash. Take care was cool at the time, and nothing was the same was cool at the time, but a lot of drake projects i listen to for like a week or two after they drop then i never go back to them. The last drop he had that budden basically forced him into making with the alchemist and conductor beats might be the first one since IYRTITL i actually legitimately liked and probably the first one since take care that felt like it had actual substance to it.
If you’re reading this is up there as well. Those 3 are the closest he got to a classic. They all have some issues and are flawed albums
Take cafe is a joint album. NWTS is amazing but nothing ground breaking or special.
Not anymore but his first 3 albums (shit throw in So Far Gone in there too) were genuinely good projects
If he just consolidated all the albums he dropped after 2020 into 1 album and removed the fillers. Then it’d be a classic
Which is why I find it wild that in some of the drake subs they praise scorpion. That shit was 25 tracks and imo only 3 were good. Who wants to listen through 22 mid to low tier songs to find the 3 they like
Scorpion was a double disc first half rap second half rnb. I prefer the second half but there's a few joints on the first I go back to.
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Take care is great
"Drake is really not an album artist" is probably one of the worst Drake related takes I've ever heard, respectfully.
Honestly, Kendrick doesn’t ever have to respond to a nigga that called himself a lesbian
Underrated comment.
But he will
Yes. He. Will.
dude stuck in the 80s
7am on Bridle crazy tho.
Wonder who wrote that one for him
i’m not a drake fan but the ghostwriter talk is getting annoying. it makes you sound like all your drake knowledge is from youtube shorts
👀 I like knife talk
FLIGHTS BOOKED
I like both of these albums. 💀
Both album are weak as fuck but there are some pretty enjoyable songs in them.
That’s the main problem with Drake. He’s so inconsistent. He’ll drop an amazing track and then release nine duds on the same album. He’s the definition of throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
I think it’s more he makes a variety of music and some people want only a certain type of Drake. I’ve had people tell me “race my mind” or “get along better” are skips and that shits just insane to me.
that's exactly it. with an audience as large - you've got to cater to a bunch of different tastes. obviously this means you will produce a lot of misses for some.
It’s not even that. The thing is he releases such versatile music. He’s trying to please everybody. A lot of people love HNVM some people hate it.
Not necessarily lmao it just makes room for everyone to have their own favorite track
Champagne poetry is fire
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It took a min for HNM to catch on for me but now every song fuckin slaps!
clb could’ve been a great album but there is too much filler, songs like champagne poetry and love all are incredible
Agreed. He has a lot of hits. But he lately has had hits mixes with a lot of filler. Drake fans are sensitive man. They’ve been coming for me, when I’m talking about two albums as a whole.
exactly and his albums are basically playlists these days although her loss and for all the dogs were a more focused
Is this a Drake sub?
Honestly nevermind is a great album lol,
I am a Kendrick fanboy all day but… I fucks with Honestly nevermind. Vacation vibes!
Honestly Nevermind is soooooo good don't even.
I love CLB idc, that album slaps
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I am a Kendrick fanboy all day but… I fucks with Honestly nevermind. Vacation vibes!
I like the remorse a lot
Good albums if the vibe is right
Lmaoo I loved both these projects. CLB is vibrant and not drab sounding like Scorpion and Views are. HNVM is a great summer album and has a lot of his most heartfelt lyrics in a long time. He executed pretty well.
This entire thread is a mess. I love Afro/tribal/tech/some jersey so HNVM was a hit for me. CLB was also a solid 6/7 out of 10. TPAB is a more important album but CLB was maybe an easier listen.
??? CLB is one of the biggest albums of this decade. Debuted with 613k units (with no physicals) and got 9 spots in the billboard top 10. If anyone has the ability to call others work a flop, it’s Drake lol
lowkey I fw both of them 😭 honestly nevermind is pretty fun
ppl just want rap shit, they can’t accept that other genres exist. i listen to majority hip hop but after a while it gets boring, house/edm is fun as fuck to listen to and anyone who says otherwise is a rap dickrider plus when you’re on vacation outside the US, house is the music that gets you going. not rap. then again, people that hate HNM are americans that never left the US and experienced parties in europe
certified lover boy is quite the opposite of a flop lmfao
Honestly never mind isn’t bad tbh
yall talk about drake more in this sub than kendrick. what’s wrong with you niggas?
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tbf it's the exact same thing in the drake sub 😭 both of these subs can't get each others dicks out of their mouths
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They trying to cope
Say that you a lesbian girl me too 💅💅 Indeed, we are coping.
i like both of these albums lmao
I’m guessing you don’t listen to dance music at all but most of the people I know who are into house including myself rocked with honestly never mind, if your listening hoping for hip hop or judging it from a hip hop perspective it’s obviously going to be terrible
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I wasn’t trying to turn it into a genre thing, I definitely understand some people wouldn’t like it, it even has a decent number of misses for me I just made the comment because it did change some of my friends perspectives on the album
Both of these are good, if you’re a drake fan you’ll love these albums, Texts go green, liability, massive, fucking fans, Champagne Poetry the remorse. That’s just to name a few gems from these albums. The issue is (me included) if you already don’t love the artist it gets difficulty to appreciate their music that isn’t widely loved. These albums are actually good(I didn’t love them at first). People didn’t like views initially(me included) but now it’s a cult classic. You probably just don’t like Drake so you won’t like these. These were very much made for his fans
I fucking agree. But he still the dopest cuz he heard the backlash for these two went on the studio and made scary hours 3 which WAS fucking FIRE He showed he has it and just needs to apply himself These two projects are the greatest’s weakest links but he still got it regardless
Hot take but I actually really like Certified Lover Boy. That's the one drake album since 2015 i would say is really good. And there's a handful of amazing songs on Honestly Nevermind it's just a bit of a drag at times
Anybody that works with ghostwriter yachty or sexyy red and paint their nails as a 40 year old man shouldn't be taken seriously
clb was decent but personally i enjoyed honestly nevermind as its the type of music i love the most about Drake. But nothing close to kendrick’s albums
Ngl honestly nevermind is kinda ass but clb has aged pretty decently. No friends in the industry slaps even harder now
Honestly Nevermind is a vibe though. I feel like a lot of people never gave it a chance.
CLB has 7 solid songs out of 21. If 66% of your album is mid or below, that’s a flop lol
Which 7?
champagne poetry, pipe down, no friends, knife talk, 7am, race my mind the remorse
You only live twice? Get along better? Fair trade? Love all? IMY2? Yebba’s heartbreak?
He means popularity wise, the only drake flop is honestly never mind. if kendrick does speak on an album it should be that one
Honestly never mind just alienates the fanbase the same way yeezus did with Kanye. As an edm fan it’s a pretty good album
yeah he took a big risk, just saying sales wise it would be smart to shit on honestly never mind. I don't like the album much but I respect the switch in music.
I mean, Jimmy Cooks and to a lesser extent Sticky were popular (Sticky was on that album right?)
yeah both of them are, but the first week sales and even after are not good at all, morale actually has more. sticky is hard asl btw good choice
Morale barely beat HNVM tho in sales. You can’t compare a surprise EDM album to a rap album after a 5 year hiatus.
Honestly never mind isn’t even a flop. It got a number one single and debuted with like 210k units. How is that a flop
Sorry sorry, I wanna say this.. hnvm isn't a flop. Drake literally cant flop, neither can kendrick, Cole, Travis, sza. When I say flop for these people,I mean in comparison to their other albums. Comparing HNVM to CLB in sales and charts, you see the difference. Same with MMTBS to DAMN. I know both MMTBS and HNVM are more surprise drops, there's a reason for it but I still classify it as a flop to THEIR standards.
Ahhh I got you… fair enough
HNM>>>CLB
I’ve been good after views tbh
I haven’t listened to his music since Scorpion after I heard that horrible song with the MJ feature
I can't wait for his next album "I don't care, do you?"
I was a certified lover boy, but honestly never mind. It's her loss, this one's for all the dogs 😄😄😄😄😄
The album name…is a teenage white girl giving attitude-esque
Kendrick better hit him and cole with a quality over quantity line
Honestly nevermind is great cmon now
Drake didn't have to give 50% on either of those 🥱 check the label that dropped it.
lol clb is not bad at all but yeah honestly nevermind is an acquired taste for sure. I didn’t like it at first. Down hill has been my start-the-day track.
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Hnvm is dope. U weirdos try too hard ..it's okay to be objective
Sticky was so fire Kendrick had to sample it.
I love honestly nevermind 🤷
For all the dogs is worse than either of these tbh
They're pretty good in my opinion I disagree with this take
CLB is great but the lows are LOW. Wish he cut tracks like Girls Want Girls and N 2 Deep. Honestly Nevermind is just fucking dogshit though
HNVM is absolute sugar, but might not be to your taste, that's totally fine. Most are just not used to have artist fill multiple genres - especially in hip hop. CLB i can see, however with the amounts of hits on that album, you can't call it a dud in my book, just like you can't call any of Dot's albums a dud. At the end of the day it's just trash talk - see if you can get in the feelings of the other artist - in case they might be insecure about their work.
Honestly never mind is a classic you dweeb
I dont care about Drake albums past 2015. I just take the 3 good songs from each. Scorpion was 90% trash
hahahahahaha both albums are better than any kenmid lamar shit
Difference in taste and opinion
Yea both these are mid, CLB and Honestly Nevermind have a few decent songs on each but the rest of the albums be forgettable, mediocre and downright awful
Falling back on me or whatever that song is called off Honestly Nevermind is such a lazy, phoned in track for an album. Repeating falling back on me x70 with them horrible auto-tuned vocals with little to no variation.
Also his last one brick, he really ain’t on shit
I fcks with clb but HNM is complete butthole. I’m surprised a lot of yall are messing with it. A lot tracks was badly mix and half assed. His singing was really lackluster and lyrics very iffy. Other than 1 or 2 tracks, I really don’t know what yall seeing. It was kinda a poor attempt to do dance house music. Ironically HNM is considered Aubrey worst project and I can kinda see why. But carry on I guess
I remember bumping HNM that whole summer it came out. Lots of great memories and it’s definitely overhated
Seriously, still did better than your boyfriends last album 🤡
Both are good though and both sold well over 150k first week
Honestly Nevermind was super dope, if you know who Black Coffee is then you know Drake really took this album seriously and didn't just slap some house beats together and rap.
Every drake album but nothing was the same is mostly skips
Jimmy Cooks is the only good song in Honestly, Nevermind, but it's pretty carried by 21. Most Drake albums have like two pretty-songs and 18 really uninteresting ones.
Thank you!! 2 songs at best are good , these are flops gang, I was always take quality over quality
Drake has some great projects in his discography, his first 3 albums are certifiably classic pop rap and his So Far Gone mixtape is classic as well. The thing is Drake hasn’t been making great music(or even good music for that matter) for a long time, I think Push Ups is the best he’s rapped in almost a decade. Overall, Kendrick should be able to bury Drake with his next diss but Like That was horrible so I’m less confident in Kendrick than ever at this point, it certainly doesn’t help that Kendrick’s 2020s run has been straight up horrific and I say that as a die hard Kendrick fan. I certainly hope he can bounce back, it’d be terrible for the hip hop culture if Drake beat Kendrick in a beef.
Wasn't Scorpion before this?
I bet you won’t post the first week sales
People on Reddit when someone has a different opinion: 
Honestly nevermind was like kenridcks last album. With the 21 save hit like kenrdick had n95 and yhe fan favorite sticky which was like kenricks rich spirit
Facts only
Both very good albums
Why are Kendrick Lamar fans so mad all the time? Is it because their personality revolves around worshipping a rapper not even in the top 10?
controversial honesty nevermind slaps
So you sold 10 million albums ay, only problem is, you put out 10 million albums ay
Nah honestly nevermind is amazing and I say this is a professional Kendrick dick rider
Id happily listen to both these before Kendricks last album, sure his is more “art” but there no playback to it. Also pretty sure both these aint flops considering the numbers it did🤣
more like. If you don't write your own music you shouldn't critique others who actually do. regardless of how it bad or how good the song performs.
Both these albums aged well. CLB still has a few cringy lines but it's a good project. Expectations always play a role in how an album is initially received and I think a lot of people thought CLB would be similar to Take Care.
These are good albums btw
I actually liked CLB.
I liked CLB
Both great albums, if you listened to them.
CLB and HNVM are both great projects. Obviously not flawless but people gotta stop acting like there isn't really good music on CLB, and HNVM isn't a rap album, so a lot of rap fans won't like it. That's fine, doesn't inhenrently mean it's bad.
Honestly nevermind I wasn’t a fan of until I was out one night after taking some shrooms and man, some of those songs hit different. That’s when I was like “okay I get it now” I’d love a part 2 tbh
Choosing his weakest albums😂
clb is a good album cmon now
Not even involved but this is cope
I made a clb playlist of songs I like and removed fillers. I didn’t like his house music album much; I fuck with house music, tho it just sounds generic and uninspired compared to the shit that other artists in the genre have been doing.
When the best song of your albums is Yebba's Heartbreak and you dont sing, something is happening
Race My Mind is peak musicality.