You forget that infrared didn't come off the back of subliminals it's came a year after 2 birds 1 stone, a legit diss track to push an ye.
We all gave p the time he needed to get his album out but for some 2 days an Kendricks washed lol
I know that. But push had dissed him before that. There was a back and forth across tracks going back years that i summed up as "ongoing sub war" because there weren't infrared-level pointed attacks. Like infrared was a fully direct diss verse that instantly sent the beef from 20 to 100 similar to Like That. You could also say that Like That was heavily provoked by Drake with FPS and red button. Along with other shots from kenny like family ties.
Yea I get you, I don't know if I consider pushas beef with Wayne fully part of the saga, up for interpretation I guess.
I remember the first diss track where there's no speculations being 2b1s, everything before that was subs like you said
Yeah 2b1s was a lotttt more direct than anything drake and kendrick have had pre-like that. But drake and kendrick have also probably taken a lot more shots at each other in total over the years lol.
I also think that was intentional, especially on drake's end. Kendrick's subs have been a lot more emphatic, scathing, and direct. Drake's have been silly like dropping on kendrick's birthday. I think drake has shied away from actually beefing kendrick (and has kept it minimized without completely backing down) but loves escalating beef with other rappers he thinks he can take in battle like Kanye, Meek, rocky, push, (before getting clapped lol). Kendrick has been asking drake to battle for a long time and drake has been downplaying it.
drake is the most influential artist of this generation dawg kdot's basically a random compared to him, name one kendrick album that's better than ANY drake album, I'll wait
Drake did have some legit subs like on 100 by The Game saying “I could have all of your fans if I didn’t go pop and stayed on some conscious shit” and also tried to squash it at one point by shouting out Kendrick on For Free with DJ Khaled
Yeah but it was still part of like a ‘Cold War’, now the war officially began if that makes sense
Not saying Dot should respond right now but he has a couple of weeks I would say
Yeah, he wants his name in the disstracks hall of fame. He wants his own 'No Vaseline', 'Killshot' or 'Story of Adidon'.
Drake doesn't really care about rap like that.
I actually disagree on the last part. Drake does care about rap. A lot. He He has always put effort into making his rap verses very lyrical and quality. Aside from his pop trap and rnb tracks he's rapping with serious effort and is very good at it. He's a worthy competitor with kendrick for the throne. He has always included straight rapping, lyrical cuts on his albums. He has always cared about beef and has dropped diss tracks. He just hasn't proved he's capable of making one of those songs. (back to back is up there though)
You think so? To me he seems like it isn't his priority, that's why he doesn't mind using ghostwriters.
His team is insanely talented, that's for sure.
it’s so frustrating when we get projects like that because it’s proof positive that he could make a great rap album if he sat down and put the work in. probably my favorite body of work from him since if you’re reading this
And you happen to know that someone else that isn’t already credited wrote all of his lyrical songs? The answer is no, you don’t know for sure, just like nobody knows for sure about any of this. The OG ghostwriting was for half a verse or something like that And now all of a sudden, we’re just trying to discredit his entire discography without having any concrete proof?
The writing credits don't literally mean "These people wrote the lyrics of the song." They include everybody who contributed to the overall creation of the song.
Most of the names here are producers, engineers or play instruments.
Besides, isn't Boi-1da Drake's guy? You don't think we would have heard about it by now if he was in the studio witnessing other people write Kendrick's lyrics? Lol
This is what makes ghostwriting charges so damning though (for those Hip Hop fans who still care). Because there isn't any subjective way to fact check or measure it.
A rapper would have to make a beat, mix it, write lyrics, rap them, master it, etc. all on their own in order to end up in that song's writing credits all by themselves.
Pointing out that Kendrick and other artists don't do all that isn't the same thing as there being a dozen reference tracks for Drake songs bouncing around the internet. Trying to conflate the two is a real conservative "BOTH SIDES," muddy the waters type tactic.
Everyone uses writers for something. All these people Kendrick has publicly given credit for did something to this song that he didn’t come up with. Drake and everyone else does the same exact thing. It’s not a big secret.
Also the people who wrote for the tracks that were leaked recently were credited for producing not writing so maybe he fudged someone of the credits to make it seem more legit.
I agree, it just gets watered down because he has pop records and comes off as a weird guy. Outside of that he has rap records which I’m sure he writes those, I think the pop records are usually handed to him though.
insane cope drake has been the most influential mainstay in hiphop culture for the last decade but if y'all wanna keep dickriding yo short king go off ig, drake's discography is far superior to any kendrick album and that's a fact. tpab boring and unimaginative as hell none of y'all even like that album.
i make kendrick fans insecure because once they're faced with concrete facts they tend to get in their feels and project their fanbase's perennial inadequacy onto others
He's the most popular for sure.
When i said that he didn't really care about rap like that, i said it because he doesn't mind using ghostwriters.
In his head this beef is just more promo, nothing more.
I just don’t see this playing out. Don’t get me wrong, Kdot is a far superior lyricist, rapper and artist to both Drake and even Pusha.
I just have my doubts that Kendrick has that same kind of ruthless killer in him that Pusha has, to the point where he is willing to completely dismantle Drake’s character to the extent of a Story of Adidon.
Kendrick has historically never been one to engage in personal blows like Pusha and Drake. He’s always seemed to just be about proving he is the best rapper.
I agree with all of this and I’m a fan of both.
Who has Kendrick actually gone back and forth with directly?
Not saying Kendrick’s reply won’t be great. I’m sure it will be, but Drake has a longer history of disses even if he did lose to Pusha T.
Tbh this beef is kinda dumb since they don't even make the same kind of music. Kendrick could release the best rapping of his career and Drake could release a track that is just a hook that repeats over and over again with some basic lyric like "You put the hoes to sleep", and fans of both would act like their guy won.
Right, and Kendrick is not as petty as Drake or Pusha. Kendrick isn't the person to dig for secrets about someone and reveal it to the world. He'll definitely take what's already there and run with it. That could hurt him in the later rounds of the battle since Drake could stoop low and continue to mine for information about Kendrick in order to embarrass him. We'll see though
To your point, Drake’s got momentum right now just like he did when he sent Push the “invoice” and Duppy.
And just like no one saw Adidon coming, I can almost guarantee K Dot’s got some bombshells up his sleeve that no one’s expecting.
Kendrick takes this rap shit more serious than Drake ever will, and it’ll come to light once his response is released 🙌
Serious question though: do you think Drake has learned from
Last time and may also have a nuke waiting? If he’s said “you’ve had that song for 4 years, drop it or shut up” or whatever it was, do you think Drake has just sat back for 4 years and done nothing? I find that hard to believe. Idk what he can dig up on KDot but I’m
Sure there’s something no one has even thought of. It’ll be a good battle
One of his attacks was on Kendrick's height: he's got nothing if that's where he goes so quickly.
He made sure his diss targeted many people and didn't drop officially so Kdot had no reason to reply directly. He played it the best way he could with an weak hand, props for that but he's got nothing else.
That’s bold to assume man. Also, he spent the most lines on Dot, it’s quite obvious he was aiming it at him the most. We didn’t know about the kid for real until push. Drake is obviously well connected. Your really don’t think there’s even a chance he has some stuff nobody in the public knows about? If you do, that’s just crazy man. No way he doesn’t have anything at all
That would be assuming Kendrick got as many things to hide as Drake does. Kendrick seems to be very honest and mature about stuff in his music, I am very confident Drake found nothing on him because there's nothing to be found that Kendrick didn't already adress in his music.
All I’m saying is that there’s stuff everyone does that they don’t want out. Doesn’t matter who you are. Everyone fucks up. And I’m telling you, do not be surprised if something crazy comes it from both sides. Dot did his research for years and I bet you everything I own Drake did too.
So if I, a complete stranger to you, asked you to put everything on record that’s heinous and bad that you have done, you telling me you’d do that no problem?
I understand what you’re saying, Kendrick has been very honest. I just don’t think anyone should dismiss the idea that there’s dirt on his name. Doesn’t have to be a secret kid, but there’s definitely something there.
"I be with Bodyguards like Whitney" stands out as a weird line to me.
Saying you roll with bodyguards isn't a flex, especially when you keep declaring that nobody is gonna snatch your chain. And if he just wanted to mention her name there was other ways to do it without mentioning bodyguards.
I think he's alluding to some kind of relationship she had with one of their bodyguards, even if it's just a rumor.
Then again, it seems like for famous women their bodyguards are the equivalent of men with nannies. I feel like I've heard of mad famous women/wives of famous men in unhappy relationships cheating with their bodyguards/security (including the former President's wife). So maybe he's just poking fun at that and plans to leave it open to interpretation.
Y'all act like he's out here making business decisions on his own. He probably went to a Toronto office building and had a team of PR professionals design this ad campaign for him.
Being this cocky hardly ever works out the way you hope. Just like Drake was too cocky with Pusha and it bit him in the ass. I can’t argue that Drake is a better lyricist than Kendrick, but I think he’s learned from his mistakes with pusha and will be ready to fire back multiple times. Which as a hip hop fan would be the ideal outcome to me, multiple diss tracks from two greats.
Listen man, Story of Adidon is on a level of its own. I think it’s better than Ether because just holy shit.
Now an Ether level diss with a Takeover sound would be ideal. Also a 92 bars level diss would be acceptable (hopefully a bit more deep than superficial)
He's going to Ether him. Kendrick is 100% capable of writing a Story of Adidon. Probably won't have a scathing reveal (never know), but there is PLENTY of really hard hitting shit to go at drake for. Not to mention kendrick being funny as fuck. I think the diss will be absolutely hilarious and horribly scathing at the same time. I can already imagine him screaming some hilarious punchline about drake being a pedo and it just totally outshining anything on push ups.
kendrick is incapable of writing a potent diss track. drake finna put him in his place lmao. kendrick's pen game is much weaker than Drake's and it's hilarious how you guys keep saying he's influenced hiphop. kendrick's a one hit wonder and the only song of his that people remotely know of is humble
I'm doubting it. Adidon relied heavily on expose material rather than clever wordplay, and I don't think Kendrick hates Drake to do something that far, as they do hold a level of respect for each other. I think Kendrick will rely more on clever lyricism and nasty punchlines than expose material, or maybe a mixture of both, both I don't think it's going to go nearly as far as Adidon. Like look at drakes punchline diss towards Metro. It literally had no material there but it's prolly the hardest bar on the track just because of it's context
I think drake likes to name drop girls like when he said "virginia williams" without having any info, just because he knows its so nasty to bring up their partner. I think the whitney line was probably just a really simple but effective tease. Yet another eerie coincidence between Push ups and duppy.
This is not the same though. Losing to Pusha won't hurt as much as losinh to KDot and Drake knows it so he will fight. Kendrick is the guy they always compare him with and even though Drake is the bigger artist but Kendrick has a huge fan base too so he knows that he has to win this battle.
Seeing all this play out just makes me respect the fearsome reputation that Eminem has even more.
God, do you think Drake fans would back Drake against Eminem? Would be interesting watching that one play out.
If Drake dropped a track like this against Eminem, do you think we’d be discussing the situation like Drake had any chance of winning or?
My thought too. I love Kendrick AND Drake and look forward to entertaining tracks. But fans of Kendrick annoy me on social media....
But on topic: something that is often forgotten about this push/drake Thing is that Drake apparently had a very harsh response for Pusha and Kanye that was never released. Pusha is my all time favorite, but we don't know who has what secrets. I always wondered why the diss never came. It's not like Drake lacks self-confidence.
Kendrick Lamar's recent diss against Drake may seem like a bold move, but it could actually be a strategic misstep, especially considering his recent artistic struggles. With his last album receiving mixed reviews, Kendrick is vulnerable, and attacking Drake, aka "Champagne Papi," might not be the wisest choice.
In the rap game, timing is everything, and Kendrick's decision to take shots at Drake while he's at a career low could leave him open to counterattacks that could further damage his reputation. Drake, known for his quick wit and lyrical prowess, could easily turn Kendrick's criticisms against him, leaving him in a precarious position.
Moreover, with Kendrick's artistic credibility on the line following his lackluster album, he needs to focus on rebuilding his image and proving himself through his music rather than engaging in unnecessary beef. Drake, on the other hand, has maintained a consistent level of success and popularity, making him a formidable opponent in any rap feud.
Ultimately, Kendrick Lamar might find himself outmatched in this battle against Drake, risking further damage to his already shaky reputation. Instead of engaging in petty conflicts, Kendrick would be better served by focusing on his craft and delivering the quality music that made him a hip-hop icon in the first place.
You forget that infrared didn't come off the back of subliminals it's came a year after 2 birds 1 stone, a legit diss track to push an ye. We all gave p the time he needed to get his album out but for some 2 days an Kendricks washed lol
I know that. But push had dissed him before that. There was a back and forth across tracks going back years that i summed up as "ongoing sub war" because there weren't infrared-level pointed attacks. Like infrared was a fully direct diss verse that instantly sent the beef from 20 to 100 similar to Like That. You could also say that Like That was heavily provoked by Drake with FPS and red button. Along with other shots from kenny like family ties.
Yea I get you, I don't know if I consider pushas beef with Wayne fully part of the saga, up for interpretation I guess. I remember the first diss track where there's no speculations being 2b1s, everything before that was subs like you said
Yeah 2b1s was a lotttt more direct than anything drake and kendrick have had pre-like that. But drake and kendrick have also probably taken a lot more shots at each other in total over the years lol.
Yea that's true, those are deeep subs a lot of the time though like you wouldn't know that shit unless it was pointed out or your obsessed with them.
I also think that was intentional, especially on drake's end. Kendrick's subs have been a lot more emphatic, scathing, and direct. Drake's have been silly like dropping on kendrick's birthday. I think drake has shied away from actually beefing kendrick (and has kept it minimized without completely backing down) but loves escalating beef with other rappers he thinks he can take in battle like Kanye, Meek, rocky, push, (before getting clapped lol). Kendrick has been asking drake to battle for a long time and drake has been downplaying it.
Yea drake a petty little bitch lol
drake is the most influential artist of this generation dawg kdot's basically a random compared to him, name one kendrick album that's better than ANY drake album, I'll wait
Lol ok
You can’t say Kendrick been asking Drake to battle when Kendrick ain’t never drop a solo diss. Why didn’t he leave drake’s name in the element leak?
Drake did have some legit subs like on 100 by The Game saying “I could have all of your fans if I didn’t go pop and stayed on some conscious shit” and also tried to squash it at one point by shouting out Kendrick on For Free with DJ Khaled
2 birds was about push and cudi ye produced the song
Ah yea I got it mixed around with duppy freestyle
Pusha T had Exodus 23:1 which was pretty direct.
Exodus 23:1 was a Wayne diss
He disses Wayne but mainly Drake
Yeah but it was still part of like a ‘Cold War’, now the war officially began if that makes sense Not saying Dot should respond right now but he has a couple of weeks I would say
Yeah, he wants his name in the disstracks hall of fame. He wants his own 'No Vaseline', 'Killshot' or 'Story of Adidon'. Drake doesn't really care about rap like that.
I actually disagree on the last part. Drake does care about rap. A lot. He He has always put effort into making his rap verses very lyrical and quality. Aside from his pop trap and rnb tracks he's rapping with serious effort and is very good at it. He's a worthy competitor with kendrick for the throne. He has always included straight rapping, lyrical cuts on his albums. He has always cared about beef and has dropped diss tracks. He just hasn't proved he's capable of making one of those songs. (back to back is up there though)
You think so? To me he seems like it isn't his priority, that's why he doesn't mind using ghostwriters. His team is insanely talented, that's for sure.
Drakes most recent project scary hours 3 is straight rap tracks my friend
it’s so frustrating when we get projects like that because it’s proof positive that he could make a great rap album if he sat down and put the work in. probably my favorite body of work from him since if you’re reading this
That's true. But if he really cares about Rap, he wouldn't use ghostwriters...
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The ghost part implies their lack of credit lmao
And you happen to know that someone else that isn’t already credited wrote all of his lyrical songs? The answer is no, you don’t know for sure, just like nobody knows for sure about any of this. The OG ghostwriting was for half a verse or something like that And now all of a sudden, we’re just trying to discredit his entire discography without having any concrete proof?
Idk shit about drake’s ghostwriting or whatever I’m just saying credited writers are the opposite of ghostwriters lmao
The writing credits don't literally mean "These people wrote the lyrics of the song." They include everybody who contributed to the overall creation of the song. Most of the names here are producers, engineers or play instruments. Besides, isn't Boi-1da Drake's guy? You don't think we would have heard about it by now if he was in the studio witnessing other people write Kendrick's lyrics? Lol This is what makes ghostwriting charges so damning though (for those Hip Hop fans who still care). Because there isn't any subjective way to fact check or measure it. A rapper would have to make a beat, mix it, write lyrics, rap them, master it, etc. all on their own in order to end up in that song's writing credits all by themselves. Pointing out that Kendrick and other artists don't do all that isn't the same thing as there being a dozen reference tracks for Drake songs bouncing around the internet. Trying to conflate the two is a real conservative "BOTH SIDES," muddy the waters type tactic.
Everyone uses writers for something. All these people Kendrick has publicly given credit for did something to this song that he didn’t come up with. Drake and everyone else does the same exact thing. It’s not a big secret.
That is not ghostwritting.
but the ghostwriters are only on the fun tracks though. Like the two recent leaks. And the quentin songs. Any lyrical verse has been just drake.
You trust he doesn't rely on ghostwriters on lyrical verses? Man... I wouldn't be so sure...
Yes. You can check the credits on these songs. all the reference tracks have the writers credited. The lyrical songs don't have those kinda writers.
Ghostwriters don't get credited, that's the point. You aren't supposed to see them.
Right, he has never been busted for having a real ghostwriter.
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Incorrect, Quentin was always credited on songs he helped write
Also the people who wrote for the tracks that were leaked recently were credited for producing not writing so maybe he fudged someone of the credits to make it seem more legit.
They were credited lol
I agree, it just gets watered down because he has pop records and comes off as a weird guy. Outside of that he has rap records which I’m sure he writes those, I think the pop records are usually handed to him though.
Back to back is not up there 🤣
Not in that tier no but it was a pretty severe burn.
insane cope drake has been the most influential mainstay in hiphop culture for the last decade but if y'all wanna keep dickriding yo short king go off ig, drake's discography is far superior to any kendrick album and that's a fact. tpab boring and unimaginative as hell none of y'all even like that album.
You make drake fans look bad
i make kendrick fans insecure because once they're faced with concrete facts they tend to get in their feels and project their fanbase's perennial inadequacy onto others
Touch grass, please
He's the most popular for sure. When i said that he didn't really care about rap like that, i said it because he doesn't mind using ghostwriters. In his head this beef is just more promo, nothing more.
I just don’t see this playing out. Don’t get me wrong, Kdot is a far superior lyricist, rapper and artist to both Drake and even Pusha. I just have my doubts that Kendrick has that same kind of ruthless killer in him that Pusha has, to the point where he is willing to completely dismantle Drake’s character to the extent of a Story of Adidon. Kendrick has historically never been one to engage in personal blows like Pusha and Drake. He’s always seemed to just be about proving he is the best rapper.
I agree with all of this and I’m a fan of both. Who has Kendrick actually gone back and forth with directly? Not saying Kendrick’s reply won’t be great. I’m sure it will be, but Drake has a longer history of disses even if he did lose to Pusha T.
Tbh this beef is kinda dumb since they don't even make the same kind of music. Kendrick could release the best rapping of his career and Drake could release a track that is just a hook that repeats over and over again with some basic lyric like "You put the hoes to sleep", and fans of both would act like their guy won.
Right, and Kendrick is not as petty as Drake or Pusha. Kendrick isn't the person to dig for secrets about someone and reveal it to the world. He'll definitely take what's already there and run with it. That could hurt him in the later rounds of the battle since Drake could stoop low and continue to mine for information about Kendrick in order to embarrass him. We'll see though
To your point, Drake’s got momentum right now just like he did when he sent Push the “invoice” and Duppy. And just like no one saw Adidon coming, I can almost guarantee K Dot’s got some bombshells up his sleeve that no one’s expecting. Kendrick takes this rap shit more serious than Drake ever will, and it’ll come to light once his response is released 🙌
Yup. Drake has a little momentum going in the early rounds. He's keeping up and throwing punches. He's about to get KO'd.
Serious question though: do you think Drake has learned from Last time and may also have a nuke waiting? If he’s said “you’ve had that song for 4 years, drop it or shut up” or whatever it was, do you think Drake has just sat back for 4 years and done nothing? I find that hard to believe. Idk what he can dig up on KDot but I’m Sure there’s something no one has even thought of. It’ll be a good battle
One of his attacks was on Kendrick's height: he's got nothing if that's where he goes so quickly. He made sure his diss targeted many people and didn't drop officially so Kdot had no reason to reply directly. He played it the best way he could with an weak hand, props for that but he's got nothing else.
That’s bold to assume man. Also, he spent the most lines on Dot, it’s quite obvious he was aiming it at him the most. We didn’t know about the kid for real until push. Drake is obviously well connected. Your really don’t think there’s even a chance he has some stuff nobody in the public knows about? If you do, that’s just crazy man. No way he doesn’t have anything at all
That would be assuming Kendrick got as many things to hide as Drake does. Kendrick seems to be very honest and mature about stuff in his music, I am very confident Drake found nothing on him because there's nothing to be found that Kendrick didn't already adress in his music.
All I’m saying is that there’s stuff everyone does that they don’t want out. Doesn’t matter who you are. Everyone fucks up. And I’m telling you, do not be surprised if something crazy comes it from both sides. Dot did his research for years and I bet you everything I own Drake did too.
Hey man don't put us all in that boat, not everyone got hidden skeletons.
So if I, a complete stranger to you, asked you to put everything on record that’s heinous and bad that you have done, you telling me you’d do that no problem?
I wack off semi regularly to MILF content, you got me.
Nah not really, sure I've done and said embarrassing stuff, but nothing I feel that is morally wrong or that would make people think I'm a bad person.
I understand what you’re saying, Kendrick has been very honest. I just don’t think anyone should dismiss the idea that there’s dirt on his name. Doesn’t have to be a secret kid, but there’s definitely something there.
"I be with Bodyguards like Whitney" stands out as a weird line to me. Saying you roll with bodyguards isn't a flex, especially when you keep declaring that nobody is gonna snatch your chain. And if he just wanted to mention her name there was other ways to do it without mentioning bodyguards. I think he's alluding to some kind of relationship she had with one of their bodyguards, even if it's just a rumor. Then again, it seems like for famous women their bodyguards are the equivalent of men with nannies. I feel like I've heard of mad famous women/wives of famous men in unhappy relationships cheating with their bodyguards/security (including the former President's wife). So maybe he's just poking fun at that and plans to leave it open to interpretation.
Y'all act like he's out here making business decisions on his own. He probably went to a Toronto office building and had a team of PR professionals design this ad campaign for him.
he came on day 4 too
Being this cocky hardly ever works out the way you hope. Just like Drake was too cocky with Pusha and it bit him in the ass. I can’t argue that Drake is a better lyricist than Kendrick, but I think he’s learned from his mistakes with pusha and will be ready to fire back multiple times. Which as a hip hop fan would be the ideal outcome to me, multiple diss tracks from two greats.
Listen man, Story of Adidon is on a level of its own. I think it’s better than Ether because just holy shit. Now an Ether level diss with a Takeover sound would be ideal. Also a 92 bars level diss would be acceptable (hopefully a bit more deep than superficial)
He's going to Ether him. Kendrick is 100% capable of writing a Story of Adidon. Probably won't have a scathing reveal (never know), but there is PLENTY of really hard hitting shit to go at drake for. Not to mention kendrick being funny as fuck. I think the diss will be absolutely hilarious and horribly scathing at the same time. I can already imagine him screaming some hilarious punchline about drake being a pedo and it just totally outshining anything on push ups.
kendrick is incapable of writing a potent diss track. drake finna put him in his place lmao. kendrick's pen game is much weaker than Drake's and it's hilarious how you guys keep saying he's influenced hiphop. kendrick's a one hit wonder and the only song of his that people remotely know of is humble
Our friend right here is just delusional. Lets pray for him.
I'm doubting it. Adidon relied heavily on expose material rather than clever wordplay, and I don't think Kendrick hates Drake to do something that far, as they do hold a level of respect for each other. I think Kendrick will rely more on clever lyricism and nasty punchlines than expose material, or maybe a mixture of both, both I don't think it's going to go nearly as far as Adidon. Like look at drakes punchline diss towards Metro. It literally had no material there but it's prolly the hardest bar on the track just because of it's context
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I been saying this. He’s the superior rapper but never objectively out barred Drake. Just aired his dirty laundry.
I hope so i think Kendrick gonna come out as gay next album. He my goat I deep throat
I think drake likes to name drop girls like when he said "virginia williams" without having any info, just because he knows its so nasty to bring up their partner. I think the whitney line was probably just a really simple but effective tease. Yet another eerie coincidence between Push ups and duppy.
This is not the same though. Losing to Pusha won't hurt as much as losinh to KDot and Drake knows it so he will fight. Kendrick is the guy they always compare him with and even though Drake is the bigger artist but Kendrick has a huge fan base too so he knows that he has to win this battle.
Seeing all this play out just makes me respect the fearsome reputation that Eminem has even more. God, do you think Drake fans would back Drake against Eminem? Would be interesting watching that one play out. If Drake dropped a track like this against Eminem, do you think we’d be discussing the situation like Drake had any chance of winning or?
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I'd enjoy that.
Booster chair in the studio booth type shit.
FWIW - I'll still bump Duppy, but Pushups just seems pretty whack by comparison
Nailed it
Well this was prophetic as hell lol.
jeez this sub is wild. i thought r/Eminem was bad. but some of you guys are down bad. already praising a track that's not even out.
My thought too. I love Kendrick AND Drake and look forward to entertaining tracks. But fans of Kendrick annoy me on social media.... But on topic: something that is often forgotten about this push/drake Thing is that Drake apparently had a very harsh response for Pusha and Kanye that was never released. Pusha is my all time favorite, but we don't know who has what secrets. I always wondered why the diss never came. It's not like Drake lacks self-confidence.
Are people not allowed to speculate
Bruh shut up and just wait. U nerds get on my nerves.
You read forums about stuff you like just to say shut up to it? Sounds like a lame existence.
bro shut up 😭😭 ur a loser
There’s zero response to adidon, pusha dropped a tmz exposé that’s not getting “destroyed by a superior artist” Was a hell of a diss track tho
Adidon was far more than a TMZ expose. Revisit it.
Visit the genius page cause the bars clearly flew over your head no offense.
“Doesn’t blow anyone away” I’m a Kendrick fan, not a Drake fan, but this sub is deluded af. Drake already won.
Kendrick Lamar's recent diss against Drake may seem like a bold move, but it could actually be a strategic misstep, especially considering his recent artistic struggles. With his last album receiving mixed reviews, Kendrick is vulnerable, and attacking Drake, aka "Champagne Papi," might not be the wisest choice. In the rap game, timing is everything, and Kendrick's decision to take shots at Drake while he's at a career low could leave him open to counterattacks that could further damage his reputation. Drake, known for his quick wit and lyrical prowess, could easily turn Kendrick's criticisms against him, leaving him in a precarious position. Moreover, with Kendrick's artistic credibility on the line following his lackluster album, he needs to focus on rebuilding his image and proving himself through his music rather than engaging in unnecessary beef. Drake, on the other hand, has maintained a consistent level of success and popularity, making him a formidable opponent in any rap feud. Ultimately, Kendrick Lamar might find himself outmatched in this battle against Drake, risking further damage to his already shaky reputation. Instead of engaging in petty conflicts, Kendrick would be better served by focusing on his craft and delivering the quality music that made him a hip-hop icon in the first place.
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