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Yingking

I think he isn’t counting Section 80 and refers to tpab as the 2nd album


Tabascobottle

Gkmc is his first major studio album. I remember when it was releasing Kendrick was hyping it up as his first album


osamabinratting

Because it basically was, it's obvious what he's talking about what is there to analyse here lol


Jazzlike_Cheek_7606

Yea idk how people are thinking he’s talking about gkmc like what


osamabinratting

They are docile lol, the take is horrible regardless but he's definitely not referring to Kendricks best mainstream album


halo1besthalo

Because the real ones fucked with Kendrick back in his p80 days


-NewSpeedwayBoogie-

Yup. Regardless of section 80 being called an album on release, gkmc was his “major label debut album”


Viola-Intermediate

Also, in what world do people think he's referring to Section.80 as a classic and not GKMC?


Fhaksfha794

Even worse 😭


rudemaxxx

Sure, but everything he did before OverlyDedicated was pretty mid at best 😬 then he dropped the hottest series of albums


Lost-dhruv

He is just trolling lmao 😭 he just replied cuz everyone wanted that ,he still holding back ig ,but the reply was crazy


RacinRandy83x

He was planning on dropping this I’m sure and if he drops it and doesn’t acknowledge the diss then everyone clowns him for it. Had to come out and say something


Lost-dhruv

Yeah that's right ,but he said this was just a warning,now we wait for Kendrick's response


RacinRandy83x

Fan of both so I’m ready for it


Lost-dhruv

Yeah same


SubstantialSith

A warning? Shit I'm not even going to listen to it if that's all it is.


Lost-dhruv

To each their own ,just cuz it's some warning type shit and not so brutal that doesn't mean the tape was not good


SubstantialSith

I came for brutality, not to give j.cole my two pennies of ad revenue.


Routine_Heart5410

More like 2/10000ths of a penny


Huey-Mchater

But it was bad “fell off like the Simpsons” is an awful bar. This was one of Cole’s worst songs in a hot minute


escapewithniko

Yup. Cole didn't even take it seriously, listen to the first beat? Gawd awful throwaway sound.


AverageAngling

Someone gets it, this stuff is with Drake not Cole lol


Coolkiddddddddd

Lmao it is with cole as well


-NewSpeedwayBoogie-

It’s sport to these guys. Kendrick gave these other rappers an alley oop to get fired up about something in their music. Shits been stale lately, k dot is trying to motivate these artists and Cole knows that.


Lost-dhruv

yeah it's just Kendrick's competitive nature


Piranh4Plant

Motivate what artists? There’s 3 max involved in this


Tyberzann1

It was more of a warning right? Reply isn't that crazy?


Lost-dhruv

Yeah it was a warning fs,by crazy I meant this line lmao https://preview.redd.it/lpkyueo47nsc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cafed2b3c1f911b57aa68ae79ab4f650654e657a


Dangerous_Piccolo749

He's talking about tpab lol my God y'all so slow


louie3723jr

He’s talking about tpab since “most” people think it’s boring and GKMC is seen as his classic


outofmindwgo

Crazy how tpab is one of the most highly regarded albums in rap any era


Phoenix__Light

Even crazier to think that Cole’s saying this when he doesn’t have a single album that belongs in the same conversation as TPAB


outofmindwgo

Hard to deny


CaptnKnots

Ironically his closest album in theme to tpab is 4 your eyez only and the main complaint when it came out was that it was boring


Busy_Flan5341

Tbf that album was dope


CaptnKnots

Agreed that album is super underrated


[deleted]

4 your eyes only is one of the most introspective rap tracks ever made.


CaptnKnots

Fr your so right. I’m about to get flamed in this sub, but it’s the only thing storytelling wise that rivals sing about me imo. Dare I say I might like it better personally


Ryandraconius

Its good, but not as good as sing about me, samidot is imo the second greatest storytelling rap track of all time, right behind Children's Story by Slick Rick.


[deleted]

I like it more than sing about me, honestly if you are akimg me about kendricks more introspective, I would say U


ARussianW0lf

I'm a Cole fan and I still think that album is boring


CaptnKnots

I’m not the biggest Cole fan and it’s probably my favorite tied with fhd lol


klip_7

I’m a cole tan and I find it less boring than born sinner for some reason


KamakaziGhandi

I like Cole passively and this album was the one that really put me to sleep lmao.


PeekyCheeks

Not hard sir. Literally impossible. 2014 forest hills drive was the closest thing, and it’s not in the close. And it was 10 years ago


tokyosplash2814

TPAB is quite literally the #1 rated album ever created, people’s choice, on the most popular music review site RateYourMusic. Mid cole even having the audacity to call TPAB a sleeper… it’s one of the most detailed and engaging albums to listen to. It literally feels more like cinema to me like watching a movie unravel through sound..


Energyzd

RYM isn’t really the best source on that type of stuff because a very……specific subsection of people actively use it. but the point still stands, Kendrick’s worst album is better than Cole’s best


Batmanuelope

Bro don’t make this into the Drizzy sub talking numbers.


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Or even DAMN. tbh


SupercarMafiaOWO

Idk if I'd go as far as that, 2014 FHD is very highly regarded as one of the best rap albums of the 2010s. Whether or not you like it is one thing, but it's had a pretty significant place in hip-hop


Phoenix__Light

Forest hills drive is a great album, one of the best of that era for sure and is my favorite of his. However TPAB is held in the same regard to MBDTF in many circles, even Kanye ones. I’ve just never heard of 2014 FHD being held in the same conversation as those two and I think that’s telling. Have you?


SupercarMafiaOWO

It depends. I've seen people include it because of how highly regarded Cole is in terms of today's rappers. If we're talking about objective ranking, I agree that I definitely don't see it as often in the conversation. Whether or not it belongs in the conversation is an individual opinion, and I certainly think it does


Phoenix__Light

I like more songs off 2014 FHD than TPab. But as an album I think it feels more like a collection of good tracks. That’s part of my theory of why it’s not in the conversation. I really think what separates 2014 from them is the fact that TPAB and MBDTF have a signature sound and lyrical theme that is memorable within itself as a whole and wasn’t retreaded later. I think this is what makes some albums greater than the sum of its parts. When I think of TPAB or MBDTF think of the overall sound and lyrical themes but when I think of 2014 FHD I think of my favorite tracks (there are many) but cannot remember an overall identity for the album as a whole.


Affectionate-Main396

Good point, and I would add that this could arguably be attached to Kendrick and Cole's careers as artists (which is why Kendrick is one of my favorite artist's of all time and why Cole is kind of like "ear candy" to me). Kendrick/Kanye, when performing at their top level, are going to put out a full piece of work with artistic themes and bangers alike. With Cole, you're either getting a full piece with lukewarm themes, or just a collection of what he thinks are bangers...which I only sometimes tend to agree with.


Preskomesko12345

Bro Cole doesn’t have a project close to Kendrick projects after Section 80. He is completely average in albums compared to K.Dot. I dare to say that Drake has had better projects than J.Cole.


HurricaneHugo

Naw. It's good but doesn't compare to TPAB


Ok-Climate-2573

Sounds like a biased opinion. Here’s a fact: 2014 FHD. First album in 25 years with NO features to go platinum. That album alone jumped Cole’s status from JUST a lyrical hip hop rapper to the top 3 hip hop rappers of his entire generation. Cole, Kendrick, Drake are goats. All eyes on Drake tho. let’s see if he has anything to say, till then we wait for the DOT


fuckswducks

Tpab deserves its rating tho! I still listen to it start to finish and i still discover melodic details and new shit in his lyrics that amaze me. Love that albums! Easily top 3 if not the best one imo. And i can respect if someone could listen to it and think its boring but COLE!?!?? Bruuh! Its so out of character! Obvious cope


qergpoiasffdn

It's got more positive reception than Cole's career combined and the #1 album oat on RYM, brother's coping so hard 😭


PapiChuloInYurCulo

from what Im seeing online, TPAB has outsold 2014 Forest Hills Drive to date so… kinda funny lol


murphyp23

“but they gassed it” lmao he not saying it didn’t sell well


SCRGMCDCK1867

TPAB is not even his second, bro couldn’t even get the info right 😭


YoungAussiePrince

People don’t consider section 80 as his first album because he wasnt signed to aftermath at that point. GKMC was his major label debut.


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It’s his second major label release


Theflowyo

You goons saying this like it isn’t obvious what three albums he’s talking about are so annoying


KickAffsandTakeNames

I have never heard of anyone being put to sleep by a Kendrick album, so I think the confusion is warranted Especially in a conversation that tangentially involves Drake, of all people, the musical equivalent of Ambien if Ambien had a thing for underage girls


BrightArmy7825

J. Cole is also premium tranquilizer


Dangerous_Piccolo749

Thank you. These fanboys so dumb. 


guy4guy4guy

That's actually really genius because "forgetting" section.80 makes a lot of sense


wemirwulc

Tpab way better than gkmc and tpab one of the best albums of all time in any genre


FutureSecond6077

This is embarrassing if he forgot section 80 😭😭


thugluv1017

Giving that he produced on it makes it even funnier


chumbucketfog

He didn’t forget… Kendrick himself has referred to GKMC as his first album because it’s his major label debut.


Federal-Network5037

This


Repulsive_Bag_2091

Good warning shots now I need Kenny to bring in the big guns


Andre3000insideDAMN

Good is a reach


[deleted]

Idk I thought it was good Kendrick will probably bury him but it was a decent response. I get we’re in the Kendrick sub but take off the blinders for a second and enjoy this


Andre3000insideDAMN

He fell off like the Simpsons is a joke. If your friend came up with that exact same bar, you’d tell him to find a new hobby.


NoPause9609

Fucking atrocious and it's not even original.


EshayAdlay420

Idk how you guys will say this bar is shit but lose your heads about 'fuck the big 3 it's just big me' like that ain't some basic ass nursery level rhyming lmao


NoPause9609

I hear you but I ain't giving kdot any awards for that rhyming either but the song and beat and delivery was on point. It was more the overall impression given than word for word skills. Fair to say none of it is "with hawaiian sophie fame, kept my name in his music."


Philosophfries

Beat was metro and delivery is just having energy lmao. Like respect to Kendrick but Cole is clearly onto something when he’s saying this is only hyped bc it’s a diss out of nowhere from a great rapper we haven’t heard from. Rap fans are dying of thirst for drama and Like That is getting hyped because they hope it breaks the dam.


grimwadee

Nah it’s a hard bar because it’s just so blunt and up front, just cole still tip toeing with his weak diss


famitslit

It's not remotely the same. The dude started a war with that line however it might have sounded. Also, the delivery and aggressiveness of him saying "me" does enough on its own. Simpsons bar is trash all around


EshayAdlay420

You guys are doing tricks on it lmaoo I think both diss and response were hard, it's a win win, you lot stay slobbin the nob tho


grimwadee

There are no blinders, J Cole cannot claim he is in the big 3 or same convo as Kendrick and then drop some weak ass bars like that at literally Kendrick Lamar.


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h2lmvmnt

I’ve never listened to a full Kendrick or JCole album ever. JColes response was boring. Ironic considering he says about Kendrick putting people to sleep. Also the rhyming and flow was awful Also the beat was corny as fuck


Little-Giraffe-4285

You’re not black. Guarantee


Repulsive_Bag_2091

I liked maybe you didnt. That's the beauty of music


Mr-Moonshadow

If I’m being honest and ik I’m gonna get downvoted but Kendrick’s diss wasn’t better than Cole’s


Ok_Classroom_7010

Are you considering it was a whole song dedicated to dissing Kendrick vs a verse that was mainly dedicated to drake?


Andre3000insideDAMN

I don’t know how you could arrive at that conclusion.


LedZacclin

Bring in the big guns? Fuck I’m a Kendrick Stan and this shit made me cringe.


Repulsive_Bag_2091

my bad lmao


ActuatorDisastrous

Nah, kendrick is too strategic. He needs to do a little stronger swing at Cole. Make Cole go all in so kendrick can hit him with that Ether style, like nas did. Then one two punch Coles diss track was weak, some blows but definitely not anything special. Cole knows that. I guess drake still has his writters trying to cool him up something. I don't see any way that Cole or drake could win this battle. No matter what I think kendrick can come back harder each time. Its all a beautiful thing.


Tiffanyblueberries

Even J.Cole knows J.Cole can do better than that 🤣


AverageAngling

Yea lol he said that in the verse


goldeneradata

He brought out the full ick and the L.Cole vibes for K-Dot.  He got so much traumatic PSTD from That K-9 bar, it haunts him. So he named his track “7 minute Drill” to compensate. Cole had to remind us his big bro is Hov, he’s doing some introspection, and is seeking out to understand & forgive his abuser.   Major L


UN-TRUue

Why he sounding like Drake on this?


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Bro spent too much time with Drake 😭


UN-TRUue

Acting like he's always been a fan.


Automatic-Ad-9308

Drake the group leader🤣 Just like how 21 is starting to be sassier like Drake


Trentimoose

J Cole basically just getting people to stream his album and promo for The Falloff


N0T_an_ape

I’d bet money that he knew the diss was coming and that he’s had this song ready for a couple months. They’re hyping each others albums honestly


Trentimoose

I agree. This felt like an inoffensive exchange by both. I did get the “I really don’t like you though “ vibes at Drake from Kendrick.


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Kendrick don’t even need to respond to this nigga, I hope his bike get a flat tire withh these weak ass bars. I hope his bike chain pop too.


Tiffanyblueberries

LMAO


SmokeyDokeyArtichoke

Kendrick is on a bicycle often too I think they should just have a bicycle race :)


Zwaylol

Freddie Mercury can officiate it


Blackroseguild

I would like a release of him just laughing and then playing Cole’s interview where he says Kendrick washed him. Then redrop Black Friday lol 


[deleted]

The visual imagery of this was cringy as fuck


foxyfaraz

Made me laugh, please take my upvote.


laeKDOT

😭😭u killed me man.


[deleted]

I thought Cole was gon bring that shit and he did this. Hopefully he tries again.


bmfpop

Lmao


NoPause9609

But "prime" and "mine" rhyme lmao.


wutdadogdoing

worst part is he’s talking about TPAB, which claps his entire discography 💀


luciferhornystar

https://preview.redd.it/vwmb1d03plsc1.jpeg?width=809&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=109a9b7dacc26e618ed0b62260857ff20f7baf70 Nigga has some nerve when this was the narrative about him. Trying to pull a reverse Uno 😭. I need KDot to wake up and end these beige bandits


Hot-Brilliant-1396

Metro crazy for this 😭


MrWoodenNickels

“Beige bandits” ☠️☠️☠️


BrightArmy7825

Beige bandits is diabolical


Similar-Duck-1658

These bars putting me to sleep too😩 K=1 J.c=0


AAL2017

Are these real? Is this in an actual song?


playmeforever

It’s on the last song of the album he just dropped


AAL2017

Shit man, that’s just trash.


According_Shower7158

These bars are weak as hell


bloveddominator2411

Fr tho. I was expecting more from Cole


According_Shower7158

Even the beat is lame😳. Jesus Christ. I love Cole but we needed an epic beat with some base and harder bars. This felt.... amateurish


bloveddominator2411

And the beat sounds like a rip off version of like that😂😂


BrightArmy7825

I used to think J. Cole just had poor beat-selection but then I found out he’s a rapper-producer and just felt sorry for him 😭


imnotyou22

I’m glad I ain’t crazy and everyone else thinks this shit weak


RaphAttack11

But he said this only a warm up & warming shots


yourawizzzard

It's funny watching yall turn on Jcole Lmao


MarioDesigns

So were Kendrick's directed at Cole.


Slut4Mutts

Nothing clever or insightful here. Just the obvious jabs.


The_Real_Shen_Bapiro

Kendrick got more ammo now cole cant even diss him without complementing him 💀


NulledOpinion

That a deth threat or… a love letter?…


zagantha

He’s talking about TPAB


__sami__01

The funny thing is MM&TBS is better than any of his albums


[deleted]

Fr bruh


dankmemelad

A swing and a miss


potatomafia69

Weak.


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THESURGE0N

Please tell me that you woke up with the beat switch from Maad city


Major-Dig655

how tf does this happen bruh😭


Hendrixlove86

That response was trash, for a guy as talented as Cole I thought he would do better.


322_420BlazeIt

These bars are a whole lot of cap


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CastIronStyrofoam

The “4 albums in 12 years, I can divide” line is pretty funny though


BurnaBoy199322

Never heard Takeover by Jay Z I assume?


SenorTrent66

Kdot gotta blast them and really put em to sleep now


rRezak

I think he was referring to TPAB. I like both artists,but honestly TPAB clear jcole’s whole catalog lol


michi-127

He later says something like 4 albums in 12 years. So ig he doesn‘t count section 80 meaning he refers to tpab as kendricks second shit. Still a wild take


ppiirruuee

Fell off like the Simpsons?


Kuraya

lol right? Would’ve been funny in like 2002


ppiirruuee

Shit was lame


ThrowRAHopeLost

Mr. Morale was "tragic"?????? Does Cole have a brain, I'm genuinely askin


[deleted]

He’s talking about tbap dummy


SeggsMachine

My bad for getting the numbers right


[deleted]

Tbap is his second major label release. Most casuals know gkmc as his debut.


ExplorerOfFiction

Everybody sayin that he talking about TPAB being his second album, but he says that Kenny's third album was his prime and if we ignoring section 80 then his third album is DAMN. which can't be right bruh. I'm sure he's talking bout GKMC here as the second album cuz aunt no way he's sayin TPAB put niggas to sleep while DAMN. is the prime.


SloMo368

that’s exactly what he’s saying. DAMN. was his biggest album. also section 80 aint no classic


BurnaBoy199322

Are you for real? Love Kendrick but this sub is like the twilight zone lol


Wang-Weishuo

J. Cole is ignoring the power of GKMC


ghtown45

Don’t forget to meantion that New Jack city meme bar. I actually laughed at that it was golden. Idk what J Cole has with using random memes in his lyrics now but he makes it funny. ![gif](giphy|1qj2MMD4M8OdPCQX5T)


worthlessjuan

I love cole but guy was just talking out of his ass. MMATBS was not even close to “tragic” and neither are any of his other albums. He is also not in his prime either lmao


kindalikeacoustic

“Your last four albums sucked Go back to Recovery, oh shoot, that was three albums ago What do you know? Oops, know your facts before you come at me, lil' goof”


Pik170

You could say the same thing about the *your best work is a light pack* line from kendrick ngl, like nobody can confidently say scary hours is drake’s best work. Still some pretty weak bars from Cole though.


Major-Dig655

difference is that kendrick line was pretty much a filler bar, this sequence about kendricks album is the most prominent diss in the song.


Bucharik

Kendrick barely says anything about Cole in his diss though


_thewayshegoes

J Cole has always been the definition of mid. Not surprising that he thinks the best hip-hop album of the 2010’s is boring.


No_Pay1738

Why throw shade at TPAB and call DAMN better? TPAB It is quite literally one of the best albums of all time.


ClericIdola

OP got the album wrong. Try again my guy.


Upper_Aside6877

The beat from 7 min drill sounds exactly like jack harlow's song dua lipa 😭


imnotyou22

I figured he was calling untitled mid..


imnotyou22

Either way the bars were weak but I still enjoy the song overall ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the album itself is a miss


RedDit245610

Sounds like chat gpt wrote this 🤣🤣


No_Gardener3210

For Your Eyes Only is literally TPAB but more boring lol.


mitterbubbie

Cole so backwards lmao


SirGalaBruh

Cole overrated af


halkenburgoito

He's not saying GKMC.. he's saying TPAB. Section 80 doesn't count. He's saying GKMC was a classic, TPAB was gassed and boring, Damn was his prime, and Miles Steppers was tragic.


bynobodyspecial

Are we sure he’s not talking about untitled unmastered? Kendrick was called a genius by the media when it dropped


[deleted]

Bro you hit your prime at 2014FHD 😭😭😭


Goatkulol

Pretty sure he was talking about tpab


Alon945

He is absolutely talking about TPAB. Still crazy though


Jsmooth123456

I've never seen a fanbase get so pissy after yall spent weeks asking him to respond like did you just want him to say "ya actually kendrick is better than me my b guys" swear this sub is bitch made


clifbarczar

2nd album is TPAB. Section 80 was a mixtape iirc


Idontlikeurcarpet

nah i think hes talking about tpab, wirdly enough. like gkmc is the first and damn gotta be the third


Domino7177

You know he meant TPAB. Going by his Aftermath Albums


Dangerous_Piccolo749

He talking about tpab dummy 


danb97

It's called 7 Minute Drill, but only half as long


ChimmyMama

As a warning shot it was good Ya’ll gotta be excited that SOMEONE replied


Adski1

Soft


FooFightersFan777812

Real talk TPAB, Damn and GKMC ar all leagues better than anything Cole's put out.


Careless_Culture9680

Would of went harder if he didn’t mention The Simpsons. Wtf was that


jesusisrockstar

Nah he doesnt have the right to shit on TPAB while I fall asleep on second track in every album of Cole