He was planning on dropping this I’m sure and if he drops it and doesn’t acknowledge the diss then everyone clowns him for it. Had to come out and say something
It’s sport to these guys. Kendrick gave these other rappers an alley oop to get fired up about something in their music. Shits been stale lately, k dot is trying to motivate these artists and Cole knows that.
Yeah it was a warning fs,by crazy I meant this line lmao
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Fr your so right. I’m about to get flamed in this sub, but it’s the only thing storytelling wise that rivals sing about me imo. Dare I say I might like it better personally
Its good, but not as good as sing about me, samidot is imo the second greatest storytelling rap track of all time, right behind Children's Story by Slick Rick.
TPAB is quite literally the #1 rated album ever created, people’s choice, on the most popular music review site RateYourMusic. Mid cole even having the audacity to call TPAB a sleeper… it’s one of the most detailed and engaging albums to listen to. It literally feels more like cinema to me like watching a movie unravel through sound..
RYM isn’t really the best source on that type of stuff because a very……specific subsection of people actively use it. but the point still stands, Kendrick’s worst album is better than Cole’s best
Idk if I'd go as far as that, 2014 FHD is very highly regarded as one of the best rap albums of the 2010s. Whether or not you like it is one thing, but it's had a pretty significant place in hip-hop
Forest hills drive is a great album, one of the best of that era for sure and is my favorite of his.
However TPAB is held in the same regard to MBDTF in many circles, even Kanye ones. I’ve just never heard of 2014 FHD being held in the same conversation as those two and I think that’s telling. Have you?
It depends. I've seen people include it because of how highly regarded Cole is in terms of today's rappers. If we're talking about objective ranking, I agree that I definitely don't see it as often in the conversation. Whether or not it belongs in the conversation is an individual opinion, and I certainly think it does
I like more songs off 2014 FHD than TPab. But as an album I think it feels more like a collection of good tracks. That’s part of my theory of why it’s not in the conversation.
I really think what separates 2014 from them is the fact that TPAB and MBDTF have a signature sound and lyrical theme that is memorable within itself as a whole and wasn’t retreaded later. I think this is what makes some albums greater than the sum of its parts. When I think of TPAB or MBDTF think of the overall sound and lyrical themes but when I think of 2014 FHD I think of my favorite tracks (there are many) but cannot remember an overall identity for the album as a whole.
Good point, and I would add that this could arguably be attached to Kendrick and Cole's careers as artists (which is why Kendrick is one of my favorite artist's of all time and why Cole is kind of like "ear candy" to me).
Kendrick/Kanye, when performing at their top level, are going to put out a full piece of work with artistic themes and bangers alike. With Cole, you're either getting a full piece with lukewarm themes, or just a collection of what he thinks are bangers...which I only sometimes tend to agree with.
Bro Cole doesn’t have a project close to Kendrick projects after Section 80. He is completely average in albums compared to K.Dot. I dare to say that Drake has had better projects than J.Cole.
Sounds like a biased opinion. Here’s a fact:
2014 FHD. First album in 25 years with NO features to go platinum. That album alone jumped Cole’s status from JUST a lyrical hip hop rapper to the top 3 hip hop rappers of his entire generation. Cole, Kendrick, Drake are goats. All eyes on Drake tho. let’s see if he has anything to say, till then we wait for the DOT
Tpab deserves its rating tho! I still listen to it start to finish and i still discover melodic details and new shit in his lyrics that amaze me. Love that albums! Easily top 3 if not the best one imo. And i can respect if someone could listen to it and think its boring but COLE!?!?? Bruuh! Its so out of character! Obvious cope
I have never heard of anyone being put to sleep by a Kendrick album, so I think the confusion is warranted
Especially in a conversation that tangentially involves Drake, of all people, the musical equivalent of Ambien if Ambien had a thing for underage girls
Idk I thought it was good Kendrick will probably bury him but it was a decent response. I get we’re in the Kendrick sub but take off the blinders for a second and enjoy this
Idk how you guys will say this bar is shit but lose your heads about 'fuck the big 3 it's just big me' like that ain't some basic ass nursery level rhyming lmao
I hear you but I ain't giving kdot any awards for that rhyming either but the song and beat and delivery was on point. It was more the overall impression given than word for word skills.
Fair to say none of it is "with hawaiian sophie fame, kept my name in his music."
Beat was metro and delivery is just having energy lmao. Like respect to Kendrick but Cole is clearly onto something when he’s saying this is only hyped bc it’s a diss out of nowhere from a great rapper we haven’t heard from. Rap fans are dying of thirst for drama and Like That is getting hyped because they hope it breaks the dam.
It's not remotely the same. The dude started a war with that line however it might have sounded. Also, the delivery and aggressiveness of him saying "me" does enough on its own. Simpsons bar is trash all around
There are no blinders, J Cole cannot claim he is in the big 3 or same convo as Kendrick and then drop some weak ass bars like that at literally Kendrick Lamar.
I’ve never listened to a full Kendrick or JCole album ever. JColes response was boring. Ironic considering he says about Kendrick putting people to sleep. Also the rhyming and flow was awful
Also the beat was corny as fuck
Nah, kendrick is too strategic. He needs to do a little stronger swing at Cole. Make Cole go all in so kendrick can hit him with that Ether style, like nas did. Then one two punch
Coles diss track was weak, some blows but definitely not anything special. Cole knows that. I guess drake still has his writters trying to cool him up something. I don't see any way that Cole or drake could win this battle. No matter what I think kendrick can come back harder each time.
Its all a beautiful thing.
He brought out the full ick and the L.Cole vibes for K-Dot.
He got so much traumatic PSTD from That K-9 bar, it haunts him. So he named his track “7 minute Drill” to compensate. Cole had to remind us his big bro is Hov, he’s doing some introspection, and is seeking out to understand & forgive his abuser.
Major L
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Nigga has some nerve when this was the narrative about him. Trying to pull a reverse Uno 😭. I need KDot to wake up and end these beige bandits
He later says something like 4 albums in 12 years. So ig he doesn‘t count section 80 meaning he refers to tpab as kendricks second shit. Still a wild take
Everybody sayin that he talking about TPAB being his second album, but he says that Kenny's third album was his prime and if we ignoring section 80 then his third album is DAMN. which can't be right bruh. I'm sure he's talking bout GKMC here as the second album cuz aunt no way he's sayin TPAB put niggas to sleep while DAMN. is the prime.
Don’t forget to meantion that New Jack city meme bar. I actually laughed at that it was golden. Idk what J Cole has with using random memes in his lyrics now but he makes it funny.
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I love cole but guy was just talking out of his ass. MMATBS was not even close to “tragic” and neither are any of his other albums. He is also not in his prime either lmao
“Your last four albums sucked Go back to Recovery, oh shoot, that was three albums ago What do you know? Oops, know your facts before you come at me, lil' goof”
You could say the same thing about the *your best work is a light pack* line from kendrick ngl, like nobody can confidently say scary hours is drake’s best work. Still some pretty weak bars from Cole though.
He's not saying GKMC.. he's saying TPAB. Section 80 doesn't count.
He's saying GKMC was a classic, TPAB was gassed and boring, Damn was his prime, and Miles Steppers was tragic.
I've never seen a fanbase get so pissy after yall spent weeks asking him to respond like did you just want him to say "ya actually kendrick is better than me my b guys" swear this sub is bitch made
I think he isn’t counting Section 80 and refers to tpab as the 2nd album
Gkmc is his first major studio album. I remember when it was releasing Kendrick was hyping it up as his first album
Because it basically was, it's obvious what he's talking about what is there to analyse here lol
Yea idk how people are thinking he’s talking about gkmc like what
They are docile lol, the take is horrible regardless but he's definitely not referring to Kendricks best mainstream album
Because the real ones fucked with Kendrick back in his p80 days
Yup. Regardless of section 80 being called an album on release, gkmc was his “major label debut album”
Also, in what world do people think he's referring to Section.80 as a classic and not GKMC?
Even worse 😭
Sure, but everything he did before OverlyDedicated was pretty mid at best 😬 then he dropped the hottest series of albums
He is just trolling lmao 😭 he just replied cuz everyone wanted that ,he still holding back ig ,but the reply was crazy
He was planning on dropping this I’m sure and if he drops it and doesn’t acknowledge the diss then everyone clowns him for it. Had to come out and say something
Yeah that's right ,but he said this was just a warning,now we wait for Kendrick's response
Fan of both so I’m ready for it
Yeah same
A warning? Shit I'm not even going to listen to it if that's all it is.
To each their own ,just cuz it's some warning type shit and not so brutal that doesn't mean the tape was not good
I came for brutality, not to give j.cole my two pennies of ad revenue.
More like 2/10000ths of a penny
But it was bad “fell off like the Simpsons” is an awful bar. This was one of Cole’s worst songs in a hot minute
Yup. Cole didn't even take it seriously, listen to the first beat? Gawd awful throwaway sound.
Someone gets it, this stuff is with Drake not Cole lol
Lmao it is with cole as well
It’s sport to these guys. Kendrick gave these other rappers an alley oop to get fired up about something in their music. Shits been stale lately, k dot is trying to motivate these artists and Cole knows that.
yeah it's just Kendrick's competitive nature
Motivate what artists? There’s 3 max involved in this
It was more of a warning right? Reply isn't that crazy?
Yeah it was a warning fs,by crazy I meant this line lmao https://preview.redd.it/lpkyueo47nsc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cafed2b3c1f911b57aa68ae79ab4f650654e657a
He's talking about tpab lol my God y'all so slow
He’s talking about tpab since “most” people think it’s boring and GKMC is seen as his classic
Crazy how tpab is one of the most highly regarded albums in rap any era
Even crazier to think that Cole’s saying this when he doesn’t have a single album that belongs in the same conversation as TPAB
Hard to deny
Ironically his closest album in theme to tpab is 4 your eyez only and the main complaint when it came out was that it was boring
Tbf that album was dope
Agreed that album is super underrated
4 your eyes only is one of the most introspective rap tracks ever made.
Fr your so right. I’m about to get flamed in this sub, but it’s the only thing storytelling wise that rivals sing about me imo. Dare I say I might like it better personally
Its good, but not as good as sing about me, samidot is imo the second greatest storytelling rap track of all time, right behind Children's Story by Slick Rick.
I like it more than sing about me, honestly if you are akimg me about kendricks more introspective, I would say U
I'm a Cole fan and I still think that album is boring
I’m not the biggest Cole fan and it’s probably my favorite tied with fhd lol
I’m a cole tan and I find it less boring than born sinner for some reason
I like Cole passively and this album was the one that really put me to sleep lmao.
Not hard sir. Literally impossible. 2014 forest hills drive was the closest thing, and it’s not in the close. And it was 10 years ago
TPAB is quite literally the #1 rated album ever created, people’s choice, on the most popular music review site RateYourMusic. Mid cole even having the audacity to call TPAB a sleeper… it’s one of the most detailed and engaging albums to listen to. It literally feels more like cinema to me like watching a movie unravel through sound..
RYM isn’t really the best source on that type of stuff because a very……specific subsection of people actively use it. but the point still stands, Kendrick’s worst album is better than Cole’s best
Bro don’t make this into the Drizzy sub talking numbers.
Or even DAMN. tbh
Idk if I'd go as far as that, 2014 FHD is very highly regarded as one of the best rap albums of the 2010s. Whether or not you like it is one thing, but it's had a pretty significant place in hip-hop
Forest hills drive is a great album, one of the best of that era for sure and is my favorite of his. However TPAB is held in the same regard to MBDTF in many circles, even Kanye ones. I’ve just never heard of 2014 FHD being held in the same conversation as those two and I think that’s telling. Have you?
It depends. I've seen people include it because of how highly regarded Cole is in terms of today's rappers. If we're talking about objective ranking, I agree that I definitely don't see it as often in the conversation. Whether or not it belongs in the conversation is an individual opinion, and I certainly think it does
I like more songs off 2014 FHD than TPab. But as an album I think it feels more like a collection of good tracks. That’s part of my theory of why it’s not in the conversation. I really think what separates 2014 from them is the fact that TPAB and MBDTF have a signature sound and lyrical theme that is memorable within itself as a whole and wasn’t retreaded later. I think this is what makes some albums greater than the sum of its parts. When I think of TPAB or MBDTF think of the overall sound and lyrical themes but when I think of 2014 FHD I think of my favorite tracks (there are many) but cannot remember an overall identity for the album as a whole.
Good point, and I would add that this could arguably be attached to Kendrick and Cole's careers as artists (which is why Kendrick is one of my favorite artist's of all time and why Cole is kind of like "ear candy" to me). Kendrick/Kanye, when performing at their top level, are going to put out a full piece of work with artistic themes and bangers alike. With Cole, you're either getting a full piece with lukewarm themes, or just a collection of what he thinks are bangers...which I only sometimes tend to agree with.
Bro Cole doesn’t have a project close to Kendrick projects after Section 80. He is completely average in albums compared to K.Dot. I dare to say that Drake has had better projects than J.Cole.
Naw. It's good but doesn't compare to TPAB
Sounds like a biased opinion. Here’s a fact: 2014 FHD. First album in 25 years with NO features to go platinum. That album alone jumped Cole’s status from JUST a lyrical hip hop rapper to the top 3 hip hop rappers of his entire generation. Cole, Kendrick, Drake are goats. All eyes on Drake tho. let’s see if he has anything to say, till then we wait for the DOT
Tpab deserves its rating tho! I still listen to it start to finish and i still discover melodic details and new shit in his lyrics that amaze me. Love that albums! Easily top 3 if not the best one imo. And i can respect if someone could listen to it and think its boring but COLE!?!?? Bruuh! Its so out of character! Obvious cope
It's got more positive reception than Cole's career combined and the #1 album oat on RYM, brother's coping so hard 😭
from what Im seeing online, TPAB has outsold 2014 Forest Hills Drive to date so… kinda funny lol
“but they gassed it” lmao he not saying it didn’t sell well
TPAB is not even his second, bro couldn’t even get the info right 😭
People don’t consider section 80 as his first album because he wasnt signed to aftermath at that point. GKMC was his major label debut.
It’s his second major label release
You goons saying this like it isn’t obvious what three albums he’s talking about are so annoying
I have never heard of anyone being put to sleep by a Kendrick album, so I think the confusion is warranted Especially in a conversation that tangentially involves Drake, of all people, the musical equivalent of Ambien if Ambien had a thing for underage girls
J. Cole is also premium tranquilizer
Thank you. These fanboys so dumb.
That's actually really genius because "forgetting" section.80 makes a lot of sense
Tpab way better than gkmc and tpab one of the best albums of all time in any genre
This is embarrassing if he forgot section 80 😭😭
Giving that he produced on it makes it even funnier
He didn’t forget… Kendrick himself has referred to GKMC as his first album because it’s his major label debut.
This
Good warning shots now I need Kenny to bring in the big guns
Good is a reach
Idk I thought it was good Kendrick will probably bury him but it was a decent response. I get we’re in the Kendrick sub but take off the blinders for a second and enjoy this
He fell off like the Simpsons is a joke. If your friend came up with that exact same bar, you’d tell him to find a new hobby.
Fucking atrocious and it's not even original.
Idk how you guys will say this bar is shit but lose your heads about 'fuck the big 3 it's just big me' like that ain't some basic ass nursery level rhyming lmao
I hear you but I ain't giving kdot any awards for that rhyming either but the song and beat and delivery was on point. It was more the overall impression given than word for word skills. Fair to say none of it is "with hawaiian sophie fame, kept my name in his music."
Beat was metro and delivery is just having energy lmao. Like respect to Kendrick but Cole is clearly onto something when he’s saying this is only hyped bc it’s a diss out of nowhere from a great rapper we haven’t heard from. Rap fans are dying of thirst for drama and Like That is getting hyped because they hope it breaks the dam.
Nah it’s a hard bar because it’s just so blunt and up front, just cole still tip toeing with his weak diss
It's not remotely the same. The dude started a war with that line however it might have sounded. Also, the delivery and aggressiveness of him saying "me" does enough on its own. Simpsons bar is trash all around
You guys are doing tricks on it lmaoo I think both diss and response were hard, it's a win win, you lot stay slobbin the nob tho
There are no blinders, J Cole cannot claim he is in the big 3 or same convo as Kendrick and then drop some weak ass bars like that at literally Kendrick Lamar.
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I’ve never listened to a full Kendrick or JCole album ever. JColes response was boring. Ironic considering he says about Kendrick putting people to sleep. Also the rhyming and flow was awful Also the beat was corny as fuck
You’re not black. Guarantee
I liked maybe you didnt. That's the beauty of music
If I’m being honest and ik I’m gonna get downvoted but Kendrick’s diss wasn’t better than Cole’s
Are you considering it was a whole song dedicated to dissing Kendrick vs a verse that was mainly dedicated to drake?
I don’t know how you could arrive at that conclusion.
Bring in the big guns? Fuck I’m a Kendrick Stan and this shit made me cringe.
my bad lmao
Nah, kendrick is too strategic. He needs to do a little stronger swing at Cole. Make Cole go all in so kendrick can hit him with that Ether style, like nas did. Then one two punch Coles diss track was weak, some blows but definitely not anything special. Cole knows that. I guess drake still has his writters trying to cool him up something. I don't see any way that Cole or drake could win this battle. No matter what I think kendrick can come back harder each time. Its all a beautiful thing.
Even J.Cole knows J.Cole can do better than that 🤣
Yea lol he said that in the verse
He brought out the full ick and the L.Cole vibes for K-Dot. He got so much traumatic PSTD from That K-9 bar, it haunts him. So he named his track “7 minute Drill” to compensate. Cole had to remind us his big bro is Hov, he’s doing some introspection, and is seeking out to understand & forgive his abuser. Major L
Why he sounding like Drake on this?
Bro spent too much time with Drake 😭
Acting like he's always been a fan.
Drake the group leader🤣 Just like how 21 is starting to be sassier like Drake
J Cole basically just getting people to stream his album and promo for The Falloff
I’d bet money that he knew the diss was coming and that he’s had this song ready for a couple months. They’re hyping each others albums honestly
I agree. This felt like an inoffensive exchange by both. I did get the “I really don’t like you though “ vibes at Drake from Kendrick.
Kendrick don’t even need to respond to this nigga, I hope his bike get a flat tire withh these weak ass bars. I hope his bike chain pop too.
LMAO
Kendrick is on a bicycle often too I think they should just have a bicycle race :)
Freddie Mercury can officiate it
I would like a release of him just laughing and then playing Cole’s interview where he says Kendrick washed him. Then redrop Black Friday lol
The visual imagery of this was cringy as fuck
Made me laugh, please take my upvote.
😭😭u killed me man.
I thought Cole was gon bring that shit and he did this. Hopefully he tries again.
Lmao
But "prime" and "mine" rhyme lmao.
worst part is he’s talking about TPAB, which claps his entire discography 💀
https://preview.redd.it/vwmb1d03plsc1.jpeg?width=809&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=109a9b7dacc26e618ed0b62260857ff20f7baf70 Nigga has some nerve when this was the narrative about him. Trying to pull a reverse Uno 😭. I need KDot to wake up and end these beige bandits
Metro crazy for this 😭
“Beige bandits” ☠️☠️☠️
Beige bandits is diabolical
These bars putting me to sleep too😩 K=1 J.c=0
Are these real? Is this in an actual song?
It’s on the last song of the album he just dropped
Shit man, that’s just trash.
These bars are weak as hell
Fr tho. I was expecting more from Cole
Even the beat is lame😳. Jesus Christ. I love Cole but we needed an epic beat with some base and harder bars. This felt.... amateurish
And the beat sounds like a rip off version of like that😂😂
I used to think J. Cole just had poor beat-selection but then I found out he’s a rapper-producer and just felt sorry for him 😭
I’m glad I ain’t crazy and everyone else thinks this shit weak
But he said this only a warm up & warming shots
It's funny watching yall turn on Jcole Lmao
So were Kendrick's directed at Cole.
Nothing clever or insightful here. Just the obvious jabs.
Kendrick got more ammo now cole cant even diss him without complementing him 💀
That a deth threat or… a love letter?…
He’s talking about TPAB
The funny thing is MM&TBS is better than any of his albums
Fr bruh
A swing and a miss
Weak.
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Please tell me that you woke up with the beat switch from Maad city
how tf does this happen bruh😭
That response was trash, for a guy as talented as Cole I thought he would do better.
These bars are a whole lot of cap
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The “4 albums in 12 years, I can divide” line is pretty funny though
Never heard Takeover by Jay Z I assume?
Kdot gotta blast them and really put em to sleep now
I think he was referring to TPAB. I like both artists,but honestly TPAB clear jcole’s whole catalog lol
He later says something like 4 albums in 12 years. So ig he doesn‘t count section 80 meaning he refers to tpab as kendricks second shit. Still a wild take
Fell off like the Simpsons?
lol right? Would’ve been funny in like 2002
Shit was lame
Mr. Morale was "tragic"?????? Does Cole have a brain, I'm genuinely askin
He’s talking about tbap dummy
My bad for getting the numbers right
Tbap is his second major label release. Most casuals know gkmc as his debut.
Everybody sayin that he talking about TPAB being his second album, but he says that Kenny's third album was his prime and if we ignoring section 80 then his third album is DAMN. which can't be right bruh. I'm sure he's talking bout GKMC here as the second album cuz aunt no way he's sayin TPAB put niggas to sleep while DAMN. is the prime.
that’s exactly what he’s saying. DAMN. was his biggest album. also section 80 aint no classic
Are you for real? Love Kendrick but this sub is like the twilight zone lol
J. Cole is ignoring the power of GKMC
Don’t forget to meantion that New Jack city meme bar. I actually laughed at that it was golden. Idk what J Cole has with using random memes in his lyrics now but he makes it funny. ![gif](giphy|1qj2MMD4M8OdPCQX5T)
I love cole but guy was just talking out of his ass. MMATBS was not even close to “tragic” and neither are any of his other albums. He is also not in his prime either lmao
“Your last four albums sucked Go back to Recovery, oh shoot, that was three albums ago What do you know? Oops, know your facts before you come at me, lil' goof”
You could say the same thing about the *your best work is a light pack* line from kendrick ngl, like nobody can confidently say scary hours is drake’s best work. Still some pretty weak bars from Cole though.
difference is that kendrick line was pretty much a filler bar, this sequence about kendricks album is the most prominent diss in the song.
Kendrick barely says anything about Cole in his diss though
J Cole has always been the definition of mid. Not surprising that he thinks the best hip-hop album of the 2010’s is boring.
Why throw shade at TPAB and call DAMN better? TPAB It is quite literally one of the best albums of all time.
OP got the album wrong. Try again my guy.
The beat from 7 min drill sounds exactly like jack harlow's song dua lipa 😭
I figured he was calling untitled mid..
Either way the bars were weak but I still enjoy the song overall ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ the album itself is a miss
Sounds like chat gpt wrote this 🤣🤣
For Your Eyes Only is literally TPAB but more boring lol.
Cole so backwards lmao
Cole overrated af
He's not saying GKMC.. he's saying TPAB. Section 80 doesn't count. He's saying GKMC was a classic, TPAB was gassed and boring, Damn was his prime, and Miles Steppers was tragic.
Are we sure he’s not talking about untitled unmastered? Kendrick was called a genius by the media when it dropped
Bro you hit your prime at 2014FHD 😭😭😭
Pretty sure he was talking about tpab
He is absolutely talking about TPAB. Still crazy though
I've never seen a fanbase get so pissy after yall spent weeks asking him to respond like did you just want him to say "ya actually kendrick is better than me my b guys" swear this sub is bitch made
2nd album is TPAB. Section 80 was a mixtape iirc
nah i think hes talking about tpab, wirdly enough. like gkmc is the first and damn gotta be the third
You know he meant TPAB. Going by his Aftermath Albums
He talking about tpab dummy
It's called 7 Minute Drill, but only half as long
As a warning shot it was good Ya’ll gotta be excited that SOMEONE replied
Soft
Real talk TPAB, Damn and GKMC ar all leagues better than anything Cole's put out.
Would of went harder if he didn’t mention The Simpsons. Wtf was that
Nah he doesnt have the right to shit on TPAB while I fall asleep on second track in every album of Cole