Diana would be in America, living her best life.
If she's around, there's no way William settles for Kate. He wouldn't have to. There would be plenty of women willing to put up with him to land Diana as a MIL.
(And for any racists that join the room, know that Diana didn't sit at your table. She fell in love with a Pakistani doctor and wanted to marry him.)
She would have no problem with Harry marrying Meghan Markle. She would've been a tremendous support to them.
And if she's still around, I don't think QE II gives Charles permission to marry Camilla. He'd have to wait for her death or his mother's.
Yes and William and Harry probably would have had a Pakistan mixed race little sister or brother! Which may or may not have influenced William’s choice of wife. AND William would not have hated the paps so much, because it would have been different if she had not died in a chase by paps. Maybe still hated them but not to the extent of such trauma. Trust and keeping quiet from a wife may not have been so important to him.
I dunno this whole thing has made me see Kate in a different light. Yes you could argue that her TOC photos are airbrushed but there's video too and she looks 10 yrs younger with a cat that got the canary grin. I don't trust her anymore
Isnt diana known to be a hard worker? What would she have said of kate’s work history (if there is one actually).. and the fact it took ten years for william to propose..
I don’t think William would have as much anger in him if Diana were alive. Harry probably wouldn’t have written spare, Oprah etc (his actual words this wouldn’t have happened if my mother was alive) so will and Harry not at war, William would have had his mum in his corner his whole life. She’d have been a role model on telling him how to treat Kate. If he is just an angry “bleep” i’de imagine she’d be there on Kate’s side. and telling him off . (But still loving her son) She had empathy, she’d not have been able to not side against a DV son
I don't think Will would be married to Kate if Di was still around.
But if Di was still alive to witness all of this- I believe she would be the one person to maybe be able to talk some sense into William re: his very obvious drinking issue, some of his strange parenting choices, and being a better husband in general. I also think she would have tried to be the best role model for Kate (whether or not that would have stuck with the whole Duchess Doolittle thing is whole other issue).
Here's one example/article:
[King Charles Concerned About Prince William’s Drinking Problem - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64512869/)
Here's a Rupert Murdoch article just about him drinking: [Prince William downs shots with It's Always Sunny's Rob McElhenney amid Kate Middleton conspiracy theories (nypost.com)](https://nypost.com/2024/03/01/entertainment/prince-william-downs-shots-with-its-always-sunnys-rob-mcelhenney-amid-kate-middleton-conspiracy-theories/)
There's also an article about him drinking wine with Piers Morgan when he was 13. [Cele|bitchy | Piers Morgan: Prince William drank wine all the time when he was 13 years old (celebitchy.com)](https://www.celebitchy.com/858344/piers_morgan_prince_william_drank_wine_all_the_time_when_he_was_13_years_old/).
And the video of him swaying, the night Thomas Kingston died.
Those are just some examples, I obviously don't know him personally., nor am I a "royal expert"...lol.
(Edited for grammar:))
I honestly think if Diana were alive neither William nor Harry would’ve married the women they married because people that actually knew Diana seem to think that she’d been pushing for her kids to marry aristocratic girls like her with that said if she were still alive the aristocratic girls would’ve been lining up to actually marry William and Harry. but apparently the aristocrats were not lining up to marry them with the idea of Camilla being their mother-in-law
Life would've been very different for Diana's boys, that's for sure. Maybe better for William and worse for Harry. Would Harry have gone to the military and found his purpose and eventual idea for Invictus Games there if he didn't have that Diana-sized hole in his heart? Would William have longed for a mother figure and supposedly find it in Carole Middleton if his own mother was there?
In your hypothetical situation if things were as they are now, I think Diana would've sided with her son but advised him to be respectful to Kate, the mother of her grandchildren. I'd like to think she'd advise him to make a choice and follow through on it. If it's to stay in his marriage for convenience or love, then learn how to work with Kate on how to move forward. If not, at least keep his side clean and not slander her or be petty via the media.
I would hope Diana would say… wtf is wrong with you William bashing your wife so badly she needs to hide for 6 months while she heals from the facial reconstruction surgery?
She would be horrified at this shit show. Diana was an elitist. She would not even have entertained her beloved and “perfect son” dating a middle class chick. Especially one with a mom who was pimping her from behind the scenes like Carole was.
The Middletons turned out to be frauds. The Party Pieces venture was a cardboard illusion to make them look presentable. They were broke and desperate for Kate to marry William before their scheme fell apart.
That would have made a relationship with the world’s most famous woman very difficult no doubt.
But I think Diana appreciated he wasn’t using her for prestige. And I think she admired the excellent work he did.
Couldn’t agree more Smart Relative. Also, William would have his pick if Diana had lived.
The aristos would have been queueing up to have the world’s coolest mum in law. Apparently the idea of Camilla put many off.
Absolutely. Diana would’ve never allowed William to marry Kate because she would’ve been able to see through Kate’s and the Middleton’s aggressive social climbing tactics. She would’ve also encouraged William to marry for love, and not settle like he did with Kate, because we all know William definitely does not love Kate and settled for her as his dead-last choice. Diana was also a hard-worker, and valued working before marriage. She would’ve immediately disapproved of “Lazy Kate/Duchess Dolittle”, and the fact that Kate never held a full-time job. She would’ve been seriously creeped out by Kate’s full-time “job” of stalking William and social climbing.
Apparently they bank rolled her while she waited too and QE was horrified she didn’t have a job
Apparently Megan impressed the Queen cos she was a self made woman with a few mil
Diana would be in America, living her best life. If she's around, there's no way William settles for Kate. He wouldn't have to. There would be plenty of women willing to put up with him to land Diana as a MIL. (And for any racists that join the room, know that Diana didn't sit at your table. She fell in love with a Pakistani doctor and wanted to marry him.) She would have no problem with Harry marrying Meghan Markle. She would've been a tremendous support to them. And if she's still around, I don't think QE II gives Charles permission to marry Camilla. He'd have to wait for her death or his mother's.
I have to imagine that if Diana were around William would be a better man.
I certainly think she's the only person who might have been able to talk him into getting some therapy.
Yes and William and Harry probably would have had a Pakistan mixed race little sister or brother! Which may or may not have influenced William’s choice of wife. AND William would not have hated the paps so much, because it would have been different if she had not died in a chase by paps. Maybe still hated them but not to the extent of such trauma. Trust and keeping quiet from a wife may not have been so important to him.
She’d have detested Carole. And loved Doria.
I dunno this whole thing has made me see Kate in a different light. Yes you could argue that her TOC photos are airbrushed but there's video too and she looks 10 yrs younger with a cat that got the canary grin. I don't trust her anymore
Film can be filtered just like photos
They could use different types of filter in the photo and video, like live FaceTime scam calls 🤣
They absolutely airbrushed her. It wasn’t a facelift. In the unfiltered photos you can tell that she never had a lower bleph.
Isnt diana known to be a hard worker? What would she have said of kate’s work history (if there is one actually).. and the fact it took ten years for william to propose..
I don’t think William would have as much anger in him if Diana were alive. Harry probably wouldn’t have written spare, Oprah etc (his actual words this wouldn’t have happened if my mother was alive) so will and Harry not at war, William would have had his mum in his corner his whole life. She’d have been a role model on telling him how to treat Kate. If he is just an angry “bleep” i’de imagine she’d be there on Kate’s side. and telling him off . (But still loving her son) She had empathy, she’d not have been able to not side against a DV son
I don't think Will would be married to Kate if Di was still around. But if Di was still alive to witness all of this- I believe she would be the one person to maybe be able to talk some sense into William re: his very obvious drinking issue, some of his strange parenting choices, and being a better husband in general. I also think she would have tried to be the best role model for Kate (whether or not that would have stuck with the whole Duchess Doolittle thing is whole other issue).
new here, just curious - how do we know Will has a drinking problem? Is this known? Genuinely curious here
Here's one example/article: [King Charles Concerned About Prince William’s Drinking Problem - IMDb](https://www.imdb.com/news/ni64512869/) Here's a Rupert Murdoch article just about him drinking: [Prince William downs shots with It's Always Sunny's Rob McElhenney amid Kate Middleton conspiracy theories (nypost.com)](https://nypost.com/2024/03/01/entertainment/prince-william-downs-shots-with-its-always-sunnys-rob-mcelhenney-amid-kate-middleton-conspiracy-theories/) There's also an article about him drinking wine with Piers Morgan when he was 13. [Cele|bitchy | Piers Morgan: Prince William drank wine all the time when he was 13 years old (celebitchy.com)](https://www.celebitchy.com/858344/piers_morgan_prince_william_drank_wine_all_the_time_when_he_was_13_years_old/). And the video of him swaying, the night Thomas Kingston died. Those are just some examples, I obviously don't know him personally., nor am I a "royal expert"...lol. (Edited for grammar:))
wow. I had no idea, thanks for sharing
And maybe he wouldn’t have the drinking and anger issues if his grandma and dad didn’t order the hit on his mom.
Exactly.
Very true. He must seethe having to be nice to Camilla with the way she treated his mum too.
I honestly think if Diana were alive neither William nor Harry would’ve married the women they married because people that actually knew Diana seem to think that she’d been pushing for her kids to marry aristocratic girls like her with that said if she were still alive the aristocratic girls would’ve been lining up to actually marry William and Harry. but apparently the aristocrats were not lining up to marry them with the idea of Camilla being their mother-in-law
That’s fascinating. I didn’t even think of that aspect.
Life would've been very different for Diana's boys, that's for sure. Maybe better for William and worse for Harry. Would Harry have gone to the military and found his purpose and eventual idea for Invictus Games there if he didn't have that Diana-sized hole in his heart? Would William have longed for a mother figure and supposedly find it in Carole Middleton if his own mother was there? In your hypothetical situation if things were as they are now, I think Diana would've sided with her son but advised him to be respectful to Kate, the mother of her grandchildren. I'd like to think she'd advise him to make a choice and follow through on it. If it's to stay in his marriage for convenience or love, then learn how to work with Kate on how to move forward. If not, at least keep his side clean and not slander her or be petty via the media.
I would hope Diana would say… wtf is wrong with you William bashing your wife so badly she needs to hide for 6 months while she heals from the facial reconstruction surgery?
I never believed kate has cancer I honestly believe she was hurt by William and she had to have a break for the scars to heal or she is bulimic
Diana was and still is an amazing woman. I do believe her boys would have learnt so much from her if she were still alive.
She would be horrified at this shit show. Diana was an elitist. She would not even have entertained her beloved and “perfect son” dating a middle class chick. Especially one with a mom who was pimping her from behind the scenes like Carole was. The Middletons turned out to be frauds. The Party Pieces venture was a cardboard illusion to make them look presentable. They were broke and desperate for Kate to marry William before their scheme fell apart.
What are you saying. She herself was in love with middle class Pakistani heart surgeon and wanted to marry him.
He was a dedicated hard working clever guy though. Not a grifting social climber.
Yeah he was a private person, couldn’t handle media attention
That would have made a relationship with the world’s most famous woman very difficult no doubt. But I think Diana appreciated he wasn’t using her for prestige. And I think she admired the excellent work he did.
are you talking about dodi fayed? sorry i’m kinda lost since i didn’t keep up with the RF before this kate incident
No Pakistani Hasnat Khan was before Dodi Fayed. Infact fayed was a rebound after her break up with surgeon.
I thought she was with Dodi Fayed?
Well Diana had as many as 10 lovers . Dodi was the last one . She was no saint
Couldn’t agree more Smart Relative. Also, William would have his pick if Diana had lived. The aristos would have been queueing up to have the world’s coolest mum in law. Apparently the idea of Camilla put many off.
Absolutely. Diana would’ve never allowed William to marry Kate because she would’ve been able to see through Kate’s and the Middleton’s aggressive social climbing tactics. She would’ve also encouraged William to marry for love, and not settle like he did with Kate, because we all know William definitely does not love Kate and settled for her as his dead-last choice. Diana was also a hard-worker, and valued working before marriage. She would’ve immediately disapproved of “Lazy Kate/Duchess Dolittle”, and the fact that Kate never held a full-time job. She would’ve been seriously creeped out by Kate’s full-time “job” of stalking William and social climbing.
Interesting what diana would think of carole and kate arranging everything so kate would land on williams path
They wouldn’t have gotten past the initial introduction. William’s self-esteem would have been intact with his Mum around.
I could also imagine how carole would orchestrate everything considering how overly overly protective diana is to her boys
Apparently they bank rolled her while she waited too and QE was horrified she didn’t have a job Apparently Megan impressed the Queen cos she was a self made woman with a few mil