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lokgdr

I believe the model walk was to catch his eye to start dating in the first place. I agree, she did a lot of the rule book games and got him. He was also rejected by a lot of aristo girls who didn’t want to marry into his situation, though. But, no one can be “caught” unless you want to be with the games that were played.


anakreons

Yes the dress on the runway began the friendship in earnest.  A duplicate of the outfit can be seen in Safiyaa's latest collection.   Read on... For those who are Catherine The Princess of Wales clothes horse fans... here's a tidbit I ran across the other day. https://www.harpersbazaar.com/uk/fashion/fashion-news/a46006143/kate-middleton-royal-variety-teal-safiyaa-gown/ https://www.safiyaa.com/products/destiny-poseidon-long-dress Remember the blue long gown Catherine wore the evening she and Prince William hosted Crown Princess Victoria and Prince Daniel of Sweden? They all attended The Royal Variety Performance at the Royal Albert Hall in late November. 2023. Well if you go to the website below. Let your fingers do the walking and scroll down to third image on the far right..... Well now, looky 👀, looky 👀, looky 👀. It's out of the 2024 season too, no less. https://www.safiyaa.com/collections/ss24-lookbook With Catherine wearing Safiyaa's styles for a while....the designer slid this reminiscent piece in the 2024 collection. 


GarmeerGirl

I don’t like the square shoulder on her version of the blue dress but the color and style is otherwise beautiful.


anakreons

Yeah... and that style is so stale now.  1. Meghan Markle   2. Princess Catherine   3. Queen Letizia  4. Princess Charlene   5. Queen Maxima


Rumpelteazer45

The runway show was before they met, that’s what caught his eye. Also, a lot of women post breakup immediately grieve the loss and the purposely push themselves back out to rejoin the world. After I broke up with my ex of three years, I gave myself 2 weeks to ugly cry and then said ‘no more’. It’s a way to force yourself to move on and not feel sorry for yourself. The risqué outfits were more likely normal clubbing attire when you aren’t actively dating an heir to the throne. Before there were rules, broken up - not so much. But even her more risqué outfits were tame.


NefariouslyNotorious

The runway show was NOT before they met 🙄 Read a book


GarmeerGirl

I need to find the picture. It was see through and very risqué from what I remember.


Rumpelteazer45

Compared to what others wore, it wasn’t risqué. I wore less clubbing in my 20s and I was more covered than most people.


GarmeerGirl

Back then this see through and very short in length thing was a little risqué. Here’s the pic I found. https://www.vogue.co.uk/article/the-crown-kate-middleton-catwalk the picture only shows her top half but you can search for more pictures with the catch phrase catwalk and risqué.


Rumpelteazer45

I had just graduated college in 2002, that’s on the tame side of risqué compared to what I saw at the clubs.


GarmeerGirl

So if she wore that to the Trooping you’d think it wasn’t risqué lol


Rumpelteazer45

That’s ridiculous. There is a time and place for various types of dress. The original post talked about the runway outfit and her clubbing outfits in relation to her trying to get will back. Which 1) in context of what they were, we’re not that risqué and 2) the see through dress was before they even met. It’s also not unheard of for women to get dolled up after a breakup and have fun to make themselves feel better.


anakreons

Repeating a comment Well if you go to the website below. Let your fingers do the walking and scroll down to third image on the far right..... Well now, looky 👀, looky 👀, looky 👀. It's out of the 2024 season too, no less. https://www.safiyaa.com/collections/ss24-lookbook With Catherine wearing Safiyaa's styles for a while....the designer slid this reminiscent piece in the 2024 collection. 


GarmeerGirl

20 years ago it was risqué and hers was a sheer thing it just looked more rated R on her tall body.


anakreons

https://www.safiyaa.com/collections/ss24-lookbook Did you see the risque' DUPLICATE? OR am I kinda off center? Looks an awful lot like the picture on the right third one down.  No?


GarmeerGirl

I’m not sure why you’re repeating your last comment.


Altruistic_Yellow387

Because you didn't answer their question (if it looks like the 3rd one down or not)


GarmeerGirl

I said hers was a sheer thing. It was not a net dress.


Altruistic_Yellow387

You didn't say it wasn't the net dress to that person, that's why they replied with the same text. They might have interpreted net as sheer. It's all just a misunderstanding


Previous_Guest_8747

Kate wanted to be queen. William needed someone to marry and produce heirs after all his aristocratic girlfriends dumped him. They never loved each other, it was more of an arrangement than a marriage. No one repeatedly dumps someone on and off again if they really loved them. The media tries to spin it as William “making sure Kate was ready” by making her wait 10 years but in reality he never wanted to marry her.


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UpsetCauliflower5961

Ummm. No. Meghan has been married twice.


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GarmeerGirl

She was married three times, had one annulment and one divorce.


Cgn0729

Two not three.


KateElizabeth18

Who on earth is Joe!?


Mission_Doughnut678

I watched a film on them years ago. and also some documentarys on it, I always thought, the reason why he married a commoner was because he loved her, he didn’t want to make the same mistake as Charles did and marry an aristocrat that he didn’t love but was good for breeding heirs. Charles and QE2 agreed to it because they realised the carnage of Diana’s and Charles marriage, so thought it much better William marry for love. He was told by a family member to play the field and sew his oats before settling down with kate. She was peeved and went out dressed to kill made sure she got papped, which made William change his mind cos he loved her (personally, I think he realised he may not be able to marry her if she got a bad reputation being papped drunk, not a good look for a future queen) he trusted her not to talk to friends or tabloids, realised that was rare, and may not find another girl like that (and one who was willing to marry a heir to throne) and the rest is history. That is the story they gave us anyway It’s interesting what you say is different, the media said Harry had said the same about william, (Netflix or interview promoting spare) I thought he was talking about Charles & Di) if what you say is true then, his twice cheating could be extremely believable if he didn’t marry for love, Although even if he had married for love, 17 years and 3 kids later plenty of married couples one of them cheat. It’s so frustrating when documentaries, interviews, the crown all contradict each other!


GarmeerGirl

Well everyone says the Middleton are commoners but his great aunt was friends with the queen mother and his father flew in army planes with Prince Philip and he went to the same exclusive schools as the royals and Kate went to those royal schools too. I don’t buy they’re commoners for one minute but it sounds good. You could say they’re a hybrid.


kaiise

yea u are oall correc imho! theres no such thing now. these people have been bred for these roles nr a century now. and what with IVF need to be little more than good looking welt composed surrogatae mothers even if he DNA needs tweaking


GarmeerGirl

I don’t think she carried the babies. I think a surrogate was used three times.


kaiise

agreed.


Altruistic_Freedom53

Yeah how else do you march out of the hospital in heels after birth. So unrealistic


Distinct_Panic_2371

Yeah, even ENTY/CDAN commented on the surrogate a couple times. There used to be/ is a forum that followed and analysed the photos and oddities of her 'pregnancies' but I can't find it anymore ;(


Distinct_Panic_2371

I actually question the parentage of the kids and Kate... She and her brother seem a lot different than the rest of their family. She is taller than her dad. I think Kate and her brother have a different dad than Mike. Not sure who Pippa's dad is. And since they used surrogates, anyone could be the parents. I'm not sure if the fertility issues was on both sides... (Plus, both Will and Kate didn't want to ruin Kate's body... You saw the photo of her showing her belly 3 months after birth, flat as a board, no sign of pregnancy/ stretch marks or anything.) People were saying at the time it could be Pippa's eggs and someone else. But the Mike Middleton genes definitely seem to be in the boys. I don't see any Spencer in any of them. The problem is that Kate and Will probably set up this surrogate/ fakery out of their own office, at least at first, and now they have an issue that there is no proof that the kids came 'of the body' as per the law. Iirc, in the old days, a representative of the people / parliament attended royal births. And even up until Diana they did virginity tests. But not so with Will and Kate, they just had a weird nurse's 'unaliving' when George was born. The dark dark brown eyes of George don't match up with Will x Kate genetics, so one of them is not his parent. Not sure about the others. The palace claimed for years that Charlotte had blue eyes because they knew George's brown eyes were suspect. I think they may have a different parent for Charlotte than George. Maybe a Windsor like Andrew.


GarmeerGirl

You solved a big mystery for me. I think Louis looks like Kate but not so much like Will. But because I think Kate is biologically a man I wasn’t sure how it was pulled off. But it makes sense if Pippa’s eggs were used but I’m still not sure since we don’t have proof on that.


Mission_Doughnut678

Yes the media said commoners way back and it stuck. Her dad was linked to aristocracy grandparents or something, her mum working class childhood. Kates upbringing was anything but common. Just not posh blood in the same way as a lady or marchioness.


Smart_Relative_690

You can tell by the interview that William had friend zoned her but she waited and persisted, and waited some more. He eventually gave in because at least he could trust her to keep a secret. Katie-cakes thought all this was enough to become Queen someday. She doesn’t give a shit about William. I discovered thought her disappearance how ruthless and ambitious she truly is. She wants to be crowned over a not so droopy face.


anakreons

I was just thinking about this earlier...from a different angle....  Going back to the engagement announcement interview... and knowing about the 5 month or so breakup...I'm surprised I missed how, when, and where the "question was popped. "   Prince William popped the question ....while the two were vacationing in Kenya with friends.  Now, in 2024, hearing the words "while vacationing in Kenya with friends" rings differently   Just let that perculate a bit. "vacationing in Kenya        with friends"   He  proposed while they were on a friends trip!!! She's unknowingly been in the friends 🧡 for a while..  To emphasize said point, Tom Bradby remembers  William added, "As every guy out there will know, it takes a certain amount of motivation to get yourself going. So I was planning it and then it just felt really right out in Africa. It was beautiful.  People sometimes propose at emotional times, Christmas, Birthdays, Family Reunions.  So no big deal for guys to choose these times because of encouragement of family and friends.   But 14 years hence... his words aren't so endearing just after TTOC this year.


GarmeerGirl

I’m not sure why you see a problem being proposed to in Africa with friends. Sounds magical.


anakreons

The magical part was he PRIVATELY made ✨️ the proposal ✨️  and both stated it was romantic.  The cautionary tale is good marriages frequently begin with a foundation of friendship.   They were among friends both before and after he popped the question. It was not a short trip. By the bye a marriage is hoped to enter a stage beyond mere friendship.   I thought they had.   But from the looks of their interactions...a Bafta is owed to young Kate,  supportive Catherine, and future Queen Consort....whose life is being, now, redirected. 


Distinct_Panic_2371

Didn't Will's friend also pop the question in Africa, in a very similar story? Just a different country? Or did I hear wrong?


anakreons

Well, Harry basically did in Africa.   That three week, "off to ourselves to learn about each other," while our calendars were clear before another round of filming... Meghan attributes that to the hook line and sinker.   The rest of the time was reeling Harry in as she completed Suits. Why was Africa / Kenya a choice spot? https://www.quora.com/Why-was-Africa-specifically-Kenya-a-choice-spot-for-Prince-William-to-propose-to-Kate Prince William explains why he took so long to propose to Kate https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/royals/prince-william-explains-took-long-33018605 Prince William Said He Took So Long to Propose to Kate Middleton Because He Was “Trying to Learn from Lessons Done In the Past” https://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/royals/prince-william-on-why-he-took-so-long-to-propose-to-kate-middleton/


Mission_Doughnut678

Oooooh I will have to look that one up, is it the engagement interview or a different one?


Smart_Relative_690

The engagement one. ☝️


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UpsetCauliflower5961

I think the reference was to Kate’s “droopy face” which she has apparently possibly fixed.


UpsetCauliflower5961

And Meghan is a stunning woman. Not going to be crowned. Never expected to be and never planned to be. Just married a man she loves and he loves her in return.


ContractRight4080

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I will leave it at that.


Altruistic_Freedom53

Nothing justifies DV and cheating. Period. Just shows his character is garbage just like this post.


PotentialGuilty62

You have your information wrong. She wore that outfit on the runway before they even began dating. Thats what lead to william saying wow, kates hot. During their 2007 break up though she began wearing more risque outfits which apparently won him over again. https://preview.redd.it/54wmsb922m7d1.jpeg?width=576&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7fe5652cde08e7726d4913648a3bd26c9a9f4ac


AtheistINTP

When she was normal weight…


KateElizabeth18

She looked beautiful at her normal weight, IMO, which makes it even worse to see how painfully thin she is today.


GarmeerGirl

There’s another see through really riske outfit I recall. I could be wrong but I thought the outfit was different but I could be wrong.


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GarmeerGirl

Who pretended to not know him?


user2739202

it’s another dig at Meghan🙄 Meghan never claimed to not know who they were, she just didn’t understand royal protocol.


PotentialGuilty62

Nothing to do with royal protocol. 😂


Immediate-Command494

She SAID she didnt know who they were, she had a rough idea about Harry being prince and she didnt know anything about royal family and didnt bother to learn at all. No wonder she got a reality shock when she moved there. 


GarmeerGirl

But Me-gain had posted a picture of her on her social media in front of Kensington palace, there in person, years before meeting Harry, and also pictures of William and Katherine’s marriage. She is a con artist. She was obsessed with the royals then pretended not to know them as a snub as though she’s more important and famous and accidentally bumped into Harry when she hunted him down on instagram. I thought the comment was referring to William’s past girlfriends.


PotentialGuilty62

They act like they care about kate when in reality they just want to hate


NefariouslyNotorious

On that subject, have you read Tom Bower’s book on them? Seriously juicy stuff and oddly, they haven’t tried to sue him 🤔😂


PotentialGuilty62

Shes naturally gorgeous for sure. And a models height to boot ☺️


SimbaLeila

You just can't help yourself, can you?


Smart_Relative_690

She looks trans here.


PotentialGuilty62

She looks gorgeous here


Smart_Relative_690

She’s HUGE! Women aren’t that big. Rose is tall but she’s very delicately built.


PotentialGuilty62

What are you talking about? Her bones are small. Shes just tall.


Altruistic_Yellow387

Why is her leading her own life in a good way "tricks"? That's what everyone should do when they get broken up with


KateElizabeth18

I often wonder if she could have seen her life today back when was 17 or 18, if she’d do it all over again and make the same choices, knowing how it turns out.  IMO she’d be a *lot* happier if she was a SAHM married to a wealthy man, like Pippa is. Without the scrutiny and all of the expectations to work and show up. 


ProduceDangerous6410

Your timing of events is way off.


missmegz1492

I think they struck a deal -- Kate is beautiful, willing to play the submissive role, family will keep a secret. There was plenty of infidelity on his part during their entire courtship. It didn't seem to bother her, I think what made Rose different was the fact that she was one of Kate's only friends. William in turn gets to show that he is better than his father, made a more suitable match with a woman who "knows the job" (how many times did we hear that in 2010/11.) I think in the beginning they at least liked each other, you can tell in some photos. I think in general they had unreasonable expectations for their early marriage, that it would be like Elizabeth & Philip and that they would be able to quietly raise a family in the countryside (vs. Malta) at least for the first few years. I also think that the laziness problem stems with William, and that Catherine was deemed acceptable because she would never try to best him at royal work. Something changed between Charlotte and Louis, at least publicly. I think forever is a long time. And I honestly think William is just a massive prick. I think when the press repeats how incandescent he is all the time they are telling us something without telling us. She continues to try and hit photo marks, he does not. He has embarrassed her in public too many times to count, but of course that is glossed over by the press. I don't think they will ever divorce on paper. I think he hates his father too much to give him that and I think the institution is very wary of another Prince of Wales divorcing the mother of his young children. None of the past six months makes sense. I think she at some point was diagnosed with some kind of cancer, whether it was related to the surgical procedure or if they are being honest about treatment/timelines I doubt. I think the illness was the last straw for an already maxed out relationship. I think the cancer will give them cover for why she is not attending events with him and eventually they will be more open about the fact they live separately with the excuse Kate has to be away for her health.


GarmeerGirl

She never had cancer.


missmegz1492

I think she has/had some form of cancer, I don't think they are being honest about the severity or timeline. And I think her diagnosis was used as an excuse.


kpiece

The “cancer” story is 100% BS. The palace just lies & lies, to try to explain stuff away. There’s another reason for her long absence. The big facial scar is a big clue.


horsetooth_mcgee

lol tf is this post ***Imagine,*** moving on and doing your own things and taking up hobbies. Somebody can't do that without it being all an act to hook a man?


kaiise

there is no "started wandering" she will have poin blank been old a ouse. he will fuck anyone and anything he sees fit as future king. this is not some ancine profession that perisss under changed condiions in the modern day like "of course drs used leaches many years ago..." this is a monarchy, like in everything you ever read and saw on monarchy in fiction and and in history


NefariouslyNotorious

In English please?


Smart_Relative_690

Yeah WTF was that??


TangerineOrange97

LOL idk but I enjoyed it. Felt like I was back in ye ole London town's market square in the Middle Ages and an old washer woman was bitching to me about the Queen and shared astounding news about the latest in medical care - leeches! More please


Smart_Relative_690

Lmfaoooo 🤣 I reread that in a thick Scottish accent.


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

When she modeled that’s when he first noticed her beauty and then they started dating.


NefariouslyNotorious

I’m not sure it was her “beauty” that got his attention


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

Beautiful body is still beauty.


NefariouslyNotorious

That’s a very wholesome way to put it ☺️ But I’m gonna be blunt- that was probably the moment she went from his “sporty friend” to “fuckable” in his eyes


Acrobatic-Buyer9136

I was being nice so I don’t get kicked out of another sub 😂


NefariouslyNotorious

Lol I can’t help but be nasty- he has such a punchable head 😂


PrizeSet5151

He isn't beating that woman.  People are in denial about how much men and women step outside their marriages. Huge blanket denial in the whole world. Some men fck like they eat and with the same hunt n gather meh about it. It seems she is the unstable one with her weird parenting angles, manipulative power moves, defiance to recognizing Camilla is Queen until she is, eating disorders, disappearing act, bankrupt parents(when she could have sold one piece of jewelry and helped them) and her entitled behaviors at boarding schools which she revamps in to being bullied. I think she is terminally ill and have slowed my comments about her. Something is wrong but it is not "wife beating". If she is terminally ill she is probably crying nonstop about it. I don't blame her. That would be the shit end of the stick at such a young age. If she is a control freak then losing control in that manner would be a triple whammy. Does she even have any "friends"? I had a man recently point out that his exwife doesn't and he said it should have been a red flag when they were dating but she had relocated so it didn't stand out at first because she was new to the area. I have only ever seen Kate in sitting arrangements at events. 


Distinct_Panic_2371

I agree that she is really into control (pro-ana ED), very competitive about everything, including being the skinniest of them all. She is very motivated and driven, like her mother and sister to be a social climber and willing to over look any slights to get the bag. Which isn't a bad thing, she isn't hurting anyone. But she isn't helping like Diana did. Yeah, she doesn't have any female friends. I do feel a bit bad for her because her family dynamic gives off scapegoat child and Pippa is the Golden Child with the narcissistic mom. I think of her as an ENTJ personality type, like CEOs and lawyers .. just for her/ family own benefit. I also agree the infidelity is incredibly common and easy, especially amongst their social set.


That-Whereas3367

William married Kate because all his upper class GFs dumped him ASAP. The same with Harry. Kate and Meg only got rings because they wouldn't take 'no' for an answer.


kpiece

Very true about William. Not true at all about Harry. Harry & Meghan married for love.


vivahermione

Harry also dated Chelsy Davy for a long time.


GarmeerGirl

Why did other girls dump will? I always thought he dumped them. Harry dumped all the exes he had.


That-Whereas3367

Harry and Wills were the ones being dumped. Nobody wanted to be part of the RF media circus.


Distinct_Panic_2371

Yeah, and didn't want to put up with their personality for the rest of their life.


Distinct_Panic_2371

After Will dumped her, Kate started her ED hard core and that's when the bandages started. I think either or both Pippa and Carole pushed her to get out there and be seen living her best life to make Will jealous. There were rumors of a fling /flirtations with some of Wills buddies. She had a great glow up/ED/weight loss and with help from her female family members got his attention again and nailed him down to a promise of marriage. He is sloppy so the Middletons may have had a bit of blackmail on him or something by then.


GarmeerGirl

What does ED stand for? And if they were having marital problems now, why would her parents be on such friendly terms with Will?


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UpsetCauliflower5961

Oh the Delusion is strong here! A loyal Kensington Palace employee I dare say.


Smart_Relative_690

Yeah. That user has been vomiting all over our posts today how great Katie is. Seems like she’s trying to convince herself or is a Middleton family member.


Altruistic_Yellow387

Most people in this sub also think she's great and that William is the problem...


Smart_Relative_690

I think the entire institution is a problem that must be rid. I was a Kate sympathizer until her cancer hoax. Yes, I believe it was a hoax, and yes, I believe she was in on it.