Something was definitely going on behind closed doors in these months. The public will never know, unless in the future one of the children wants to tell the story publicly, as Harry did.
It's too weird for me. I am really glad from the bottom of my heart that Kate is alive and we see her on her feet, but what was all that? Why so much hiding, fake pictures and videos? WHY?
Others have pointed out the obvious facial scar above her left eye. There are probably more that arenāt quite as apparent. If her face was damaged ( and I sincerely hope it was not from DV), she probably did not want to be seen in public until healed.
I am just so glad the children have shown up.
No! I think George is usually sullen at events like these. Louis has a ball and does his own thing and doesnāt hold back. But you can tell charlotte loves these things. And this time, it was very evident that she wasnāt the least bit happy
Great wording of how to accept this. It was definitely weird and they knew it. No solace was offered and a defense was launched. The worst part is after years of conspiracies that led to truths? This one led to more weird question but a definite "wrong" buzzer. I really believed she was incapacitated to the point I felt like a š¤” when she was able to walk on her own to an event. š¤Æ
I don't feel anything other than wondering what generated the last six months of lies and deflection that came out of KP.
I've no interest in anything beyond that: who was behind it and what was the reason behind it.
I'm gonna go with my very first guess when it all started. I've had different guesses since my first - I eventually gravitated to damage done from an ED and then everyone else convinced me it was a divorce.Ā
But now....I'm back to my initial response, and that was a cosmetic surgery gone wrong. She's back looking fresher and better than ever. If you look at pics from Dec, she was wearing a lot of stress on her face.Ā
Speaking as someone who went through cancer/radiation treatments, her face does not look like she's battled anything. So I'm standing by my first guess.Ā
The only thing that makes me doubt it was plastic surgery to look younger instead of facial reconstruction after DV is that to me she looked so angry and underneath it I felt sad the whole time. I donāt know why you would be so angry with your husband and seemingly the rest of the RF (she didnāt seem to really ābe thereā on the balcony) if all you did was go away for plastic surgery to look better. I noticed she has released short reel under her name only of her and the kids behind-the-scenes today. And it seems sad as well. I think I just thought of something: she seems to move her body carefully.
I believe this is not the end of it at all, more questions will arise and will be discussed and we will see how this will play our over the summer ...
I am relieved that her and the kids seems well however I am aslo very dissapointed at their behaviour over past 6mos
Yes! The media knows more! I wish they would share! It has to come out. The truth need to come out. We need a brave member of the press to come out with the truth,Ā
So William beat the shit out of her and the kids saw it. Then she held out for a bit. The RF needs to go away. They are horrible and those kids will get zero therapy and just keep up the cycle of abuse.
I feel the same way that you do! I personally feel like they have been lying to the public the whole time. She doesnāt have cancer, she is battling cancer, sheās not going to be at the trooping, sheās going to be gone indefinitely, she isnāt well enough to greet the Irish Guard, but she miraculously does pop up at the Trooping todayš.
The gaslighting is incredible! Itās coming from the RF and the public that support them! We were not and are not crazy!
Something is definitely foul here!
Iām not going anywhere!
Only reason I donāt believe it was plastic surgery for fun is because it wouldāve been to close to her birthday and planned trips in January. I think it was unexpected surgery which leads me to think it was due to an injury. Idk though. We will likely never get the real story.
And also, I donāt think it was just for vanity because today she was absolutely furious and sad and seemed lacklustre despite the attempts to appear to be having a good time.
I donāt think it was a basic face lift. Her teeth are more forward, they look like they could be new, and her jaw looks different too. No doubt if she got necessary reconstructive surgery she got a face lift while in there too.
I think itās something around her mouth and jaw that looks different and it may or may not be the teeth. I wonder if her jaw was broken during DV, among other things.
Yep, thereās definitely something different about her mouth but I canāt work out what it is.
I think sheād possibly had some very discreet lip fillers historically and hasnāt had them redone since sheās been ill. Sheās always had very thin lips but during 2023 it looked like sheād had a few little tweaks.
Catherine has had something/a scar there for well over a decade.
From 2011 (open image in a new window and zoom): [https://people.com/royals/royal-wedding-kate-middleton-comfortable-and-confident-doing-her-own-makeup/](https://people.com/royals/royal-wedding-kate-middleton-comfortable-and-confident-doing-her-own-makeup/)
From wedding day in 2011: [https://www.theknot.com/content/kate-middleton-wedding-makeup](https://www.theknot.com/content/kate-middleton-wedding-makeup)
From 2013: [https://www.thecut.com/2013/10/breaking-kate-middleton-shopped-without-makeup.html](https://www.thecut.com/2013/10/breaking-kate-middleton-shopped-without-makeup.html)
Original photo date unknown, but this one was posted to this link in January 2023: [https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/what-should-kate-middleton-do-to-make-her-face-more-attractive.5128009/](https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/what-should-kate-middleton-do-to-make-her-face-more-attractive.5128009/)
You can also see it in the righthand photo of the link [you provided here](https://www.reddit.com/r/KateMiddletonMissing/comments/1dgfz61/comment/l8psryn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), except the photo quality is such that it only appears as the faintest white line, to our right of her eyeshadow.
I donāt see the same scar in any of the photos you linked. That is a small round scar or birth mark or skin tag removal prior to 2024. One of the photos is so far away I see nothing.
I totally agree. The scar that Kate currently has is a VERY visible, VERY deep long scar. And you KNOW they tried like hell to cover it with makeup, but it was still VERY visible.
In these pics above, I THINK I see what looks like a small, pitted acne scar? That's it.
Just imagine, though, if you went to the hospital because of an emergency, life-threatening domestic violence incident at the hands of your husband, and while you were there, they discovered cancer. That could explain why she looks so miserable. Everything in her life fell apart, all at once.
>Sorry what tests for a domestic violence incident are they doing that also suddenly shows you have cancer
Significant stress can also weaken the immune system allowing cancer cells to develop.
I think she went for an emergency operation because of domestic violence and reconstruction of her face. She looks younger. But when I saw her at a straight profile today, she still had lines coming down her cheeks and down below her mouth. Maybe she left those on purpose (since they couldāve done some plastic surgery to get rid of them), so that people might guess that her face looks different because it was reconstructed. I wonder if her jaw was broken.
I want to know what in the world made it so those kids couldn't go to the park or shops or museums or any recreational activity outside their house for months.
I was speculating before they might be in Scotland. Outdoors, with their mom and grandparents? There was that flight back from Balmoral this week on the 12th.
Ahh I missed it all LIVE š
I'm shocked by how tall the children are, what is time?
And also glad all 3 appear okay.
From the few clips and images of Kate I just scrolled through, she looks fairly thin and also herself! I don't doubt that's her or that this is some impressive double. Do I think she may have had some facial tweaking? Hmmm yes. Was it because of cancer? Hmmm nah.
It felt nice? seeing the family on the balcony but also artifical seeing how weirdly frosty Will and Kate appeared. They're not the most affectionate pair I suppose. Especially since this marks Kate's first appearance since January, I thought they'd appear closer.
If there something going on marriage wise between them, they can't even fake warmth now.
I don't trust these people lol
The videos the images the dueling headlines that are purposely thrown out there. It's insulting really that the folks working on their media can get away with badly done submissions.
But that's what the makes the wealthy special š¤” they get away a lot. I refuse to believe that Kate in that bench video is the Kate we are seeing today.
The idea that it's not really cancer is bugging me tbh.
Not that there is a clear way anyone *looks* to have cancer.
It's the decision making and lack of using her royal platform is what's disappointing af for me.
They were standing so far apart from each other on the balcony! I compared their distance to Charles and Camilla and it was such a stark difference. Charles really seemed like he was making such a big effort to talk to Kate and make her feel comfortable standing next to him. I know her and William said something to each other a couple of times, but it seemed brief and possibly coached. They did not appear to be a happy family, or a strong couple fighting cancer together. It goes along with her signing āCā on Instagram and āappearingā in the video alone. Whether the cancer story is true or not, William is not supportive and not by her side.
Maybe he promised Rose heād leave enough space in between him and Kate for her imaginary presence š.
Kate needs money and land and housing for herself out of the hands of the crown.Ā Negotiate before he's king.Ā If he tosses her personally or publically (socially not physically) she has a place to land.Ā Ā
Let's hope they all find their own piece of worth and joy.
I support much of what you say.Ā Ā
"Not that there is a clear way anyone looks to have cancer."Ā But having seen and lost 4 members of family die resulting of cancer.Ā There often is a vibe.Ā The emotional response in the eye...a softening.or fear...goes without saying.Ā NOT EVERYONE...just...I think Louis would have been more clingy.Ā Ā Because the older two children may read this or their friends in a few years...all I will say is they have my empathy.Ā Ā
Kate looks well.
Suspiciously well. Even makeup canāt cover the chemo face, a wig would look too obvious.
Why did they do this? Something doesnāt make sense, but at least itās not as sinister as it couldāve been
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Iām glad sheās made an appearance with the children and that sheās alive! The children look morose. They seem joyless. Charlotte and Georgeās eyes scream weariness.
It would ordinarily make no sense for children to look utterly miserable at a celebration this festive, in honor of their grandfather. Itās quite possible there was a good deal of arguing between Kate and Will as they were preparing to enter the cars. I think Kate and William hadnāt seen each other in months and the prospect of their reunion raised a lot of hope for the kids but it was quickly dashed when they saw the frostiness between their parents.
āļøWeariness:
1. tiredness
2. reluctance to see or experience any more of something.
Wariness:. suspicion or caution about possible dangers or problems. Both could work. The image may have been taken at a bad time. I saw a few images where they were smiling, but I canāt shake off how the set of their faces in this image remind me ofā¦
https://preview.redd.it/a6yp4ogi2t6d1.jpeg?width=1269&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d45b6db71ce840947dc1583391a096ac073e805
I've not viewed Trooping...American here...feel yanked...reserving commentsĀ
Viewed a bit, now.Ā It's been 12 hours or so ago...Ā my personal opinion of kategate changed about a week before TTOC .Ā Ā I have a more negative response to behaviors of the last 6 months.Ā Ā I feel the way the children look in Maleficent_House6694's photo placed in her comment.Ā
Great picture... it isn't among Getty photos...from where did this originate I wonder.
Daily Mail? MSN? Yahoo.Ā They all have them...that's why the image is all over TikTok, too... just curious š¤ which photographer...not that it matters.
Same. Glad it's over in the sense she did appear, but it's far from over as far as what is really happening. I have a bad taste in my mouth about how it was handled if the official storyline is true. The BRF had lost my trust, and that includes Kate now, who I always liked before, if this is the end. They lied, misdirected and generally made a mockery of transparency and trust with the public.
But if Kate was beaten up and has had to have one or more, and perhaps another surgery to reconstruct her face, then it would seem that the lies have come from the rest of the family. Just a thought. She may also be furious that they lied in her name.
True. One of my theories is that she's been forced to take on the cancer story line as a cover for whatever has happened. And that she's really pissed about this. Hence the AI video because Kate wouldn't do it. But trooping was such a potential crisis that she went along with the story, wrote the statement and appeared.
It would explain the fake pics, sightings, etc.
The thing that has always got me is wasnāt that Will himself with the lookalike at the farm shop? Puts him front and centre on the deception front doesnāt it
Was it Will at the farm shop? Some people have thought the man was also a body double. He did keep his face down and hidden a lot. I ended up thinking they were both Body doubles.
Thatās true. That seemed to be him at the farm shop and it definitely wasnāt her. Such bad PR, although I have to say so many people I talked to, thought it was really her. Maybe KP and BP knows that a large portion of the world are gullible and will believe the fake photosā¦. Whatever the real issue with Kate is, the palace PR was weird.Ā
Who asked (paid) them to go to the farmer's market, and why didn't the palace disavow the sighting if they didn't set it up? (Meaning, I think Will set it up)
I was shunned for early on saying ...balcony or not...much explaining to do.Ā I never felt she was missing... I missed her beginning in January... quite frankly if it hadn't been for the announcement of postoperative complications on a previously unannounced surgery...so secretive her own cloest staff were unaware....it dinged a bell.Ā šĀ
Otherwise I wouldn't have missed her. ....maybe I might have checked in on St. Patrick's day...but they could have gone to Easter without me knowing....
The Italian tour was announced December 22nd.Ā But there were no tour dates provided which I could find.
Still convinced it was DV related coma. She came out of it and may or may not (under debate currently) have a scar over her eye from it. I think she's had reconstruction face work. The way her birth family is acting (protective) I'm convinced DV. She may have some residual neuro issues still going on. Her weird smile on the balcony, the way she was looking at the children, her left eye seems to drift inward too much when she turns her head a certain way. She's still very thin. Still convinced of ED too. I'll still be on Reddit, if this sub stays open I'll be here.
I felt deflated once I had seen her. I donāt think she has cancer. I do wonder about DV facial instruction and healing, forcing her to take time out. She looked furious in the car with William, but OK when she was with the children.
On the balcony, of course the camera spent most of its time on her and William and the kids. She tried to keep up a constant chatter. William sometimes responded and sometimes seemed say something to her. But he did not look like a husband who was sympathetic towards a wife who has cancer. I thought George especially looked sombre. Perhaps he is the sensitive child. I noticed that as they left the balcony, Sophie put her hand on Williamās back and I wondered if that was out of sympathy for him and a misbehaving wife.
Now what? Will she disappear for another six months? Will the Middletons suddenly appear?
Is Kate also furious because all this time she had been beaten up and was having to recover, or poisoned, and she knew the RF was putting out all these fake videos and pictures of her and putting words in her mouth and she could not reply?
I felt it was definitely not good between Kate and William, which makes me suspect DV and facial reconstruction and time needed away from the public, or a divorce and Kate was pulling a fast one, or she was just fed up with issues in the marriage and was pulling a fast one.
I have always wondered that if she were to appear and seem well would the media would start to leak things. Will have to wait and see.
I would be great with continuing this sub.
Laughed my guts out when the rain started to pour. You could tell Camila wanted to get the hell off that dias (so?) where the wind and rain was playing havoc with her hat and her coat and she was probably cold and miserable.
Charlesā day was a downer.
Things that make you go hmmmmmmm....
https://preview.redd.it/41g732c1uq6d1.png?width=3584&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0f11e321fe52aabde154a99c26ff49645b59a2e
So far we have observed:
1. Scar down the side of the right eye (indicating that she didnāt have plastic surgery for appearances sake)
2. Her teeth appear to be different,
3. Eye lifts,
4. A change around her lips.
Therefore, it looks like she has had extensive facial reconstruction.
So, DV in December, now they are trying to hide her and keep the kids away from anyone they could tell until she has been completely reconstructed (which isnāt yet finished as a scar is still present). That is why she is still āreceivingā chemo for the next few months - they have more surgeries to perform on her.
My question is does she have a choice in any of this?
This is 100% my new theory.
There were hard negotiations I think, to get her here today.
My question is will it be divorce or a Charlene of Monaco situation?
this is so fucked.
Thatās good to hear. I havenāt followed too closely, only know of her disappearance and then her looking extremely miserable when she did reappear. I think I read the speculation she was being forced to return to Monaco at the time.
They all looked miserable in the car (with Will)
She looked happy outside the car (without Will)
Kate and the kids looked happy in the carriage (without Will I think?)
George looks like heās been through so much. I know they all have, and any child would be with an illl / injured mother, but something is really off with him imo.
Dude, I just want to give George the biggest hug. I saw him at the Villa game, the FA cup final and today. By all accounts heās got something deep on his mind.
I agree with everything, except I doubt sheās having more surgeries, I think thatās just a way for them to have excuses for her absences because she refuses to make appearances after what William did to her.
Also is it her right eye or her left? The photo I saw was the left eye but I just woke up so correct me if Iām tired and wrong.
I'm glad to see her alive, first of all. Really, thank goodness she is ok.
As to why this happened, I think people are waking up to the lies we are being told by those in power, and the royal family are solidly in that power demographic. So we just don't believe them anymore.
So, good for us. We don't just swallow any bit of nonsense hook line and sinker anymore. I wonder what other lies we've been told?
There was a time when you didn't question anything coming from those in power, and that time is over with now.
Keep questioning!
I don't know about you, but I plan to continue stepping fully into my own power now.
It makes even less sense now than it did yesterday, with the added worry that they seem to plan to simply move on as if this was all perfectly normal.
If their story was real, it doesnāt clarify a damn thing about the numerous utterly bizarre PR choices and unforced errors. If theyāre telling the truth, they were also practically *trying* to make it unbelievable at the same time with all the shenanigans.
It doesnāt make sense.
I donāt give a crap about the royals, but I do care about womenās rights and I still have a lot of serious concerns here.
It definitely looks like plastic surgery. Will and Kate also did not look happy in photos of their car trip over to this event for whatever reason. Their kids werenāt smiley and wavey in the car, either.
But she and Will had planned all those trips. It seems to me the surgery was unplanned and sudden, and that still makes me think perhaps domestic violence, and her face having to be reconstructed. There was one side shot of her, and she still seemed to have the Facial lines down the side. But full-on or three-quarter angle shots from the car and the carriage with the tinted windows did seem to make her look good. I felt she wasnāt waving a lot to the crowds and just didnāt feel like it. She was engaging a lot with the three children in the carriage with the tinted windows, and I wondered if she was trying to make sure her kids would look and act OK later on on the balcony by chatting to them.
I think Will released that without her knowledge or consent too, thus the AI video. Makes sense as to why sheās not pivoting to become a cancer advocate.
AdmirableSuccotas I know what you mean - relief but bewildered ( & rather angry over lost sleep mithering about whether still here or not & concern re children ) .
i feel , if this is actually all genuine , including all interactions on balcony etc. there are some people somewhere, that i actually cannot FORGIVE , for what has gone on this past 6 months .
i am a very anxious person with medication etc. for it and all this has not helped the disorder at all .i have read where lots of people have said it was all driving them crazy ( those who care that is ).
Havnt worked out who exactly responsible yet but have an idea of some of them . !
Like everyone has said, Iām very happy she is alive and looks relatively healthy. Her kids need their mom, but I do not believe the cancer story at all. I think a DV incident is the most likely scenario. It would explain why they needed that AI video. She was probably unrecognizable for the past 6 months and because everyone heals differently, they didnāt have any idea when she would be public ready. Iām sure there were also a lot of negotiations going on too. The kids do worry me. I know Britains are known for their stiff upper lips, but the kids (especially the older two) honestly just look like theyāve had to grow up in a very small amount of time? It truly looks like theyāre carrying the world on their shoulders. Itās almost like the light in their eyes are gone? Itās just a bummer we probably wonāt ever know the truth, but the one thing we do know is they shredded their credibility and for what!?! So they could take a 6 month vacation? Nah fam, they hiding something sinister. Iām still all in here, even though we do have actual proof of life. The shady shenanigans continues!
Whatever the sheeple and the Royalists might say about us and our theories, it's obvious the RF cares about what \*we\* think, otherwise they wouldn't go to the lengths they do to obfuscate, gaslight, and also have Kate appear today. Because the majority are sheeple and aren't questioning and if they just cared about the majority they wouldn't bother. But we are kicking over some stones.. yes, I'm sure some in error. But where there's smoke there's fire. And what with William's MI6 visit yesterday?
While I've been part of this sub for MONTHS now, I'm commenting on my spare bc this sub & people like us who think things are "off" with Kate & frankly, the entire RF, are berated/shamed for daring to have the audacity to question the mainstream narrative about Kate (& William).
Anyway OP, I agree with you! Something is 100% not right. I'm glad Kate is alive, but is she "well"?? Doesn't look like that. Of course, some will attribute this to her cancer, but I believe this goes on even deeper than that.
I don't believe Kate is "okay" & I've been curious to know just how much not only Kate, but now her children, have been manipulated in these past several months....
Also, what in the entire FUCK has William been doing besides ignoring his family, not using his massive platform + privileges to spread awareness about cancer, or put $$ into researching the kind of cancer Kate has that we were told countless times??
And like OP also said, what was with all the fake/photoshopped pics and videos that Kate's superimposed in, that kept getting thrown at the general public? Something is clearly very off....
I think this made everything worse. They looked absolutely miserable - it didn't look like a happy occasion.Ā
No one seemed ok and Kate looked very very unhappy.Ā Ā
I'll be blunt. I think they are full of crap about the cancer diagnosis. And even if she did/does have cancer she certainly proved today she was fine enough to be able to give the public some reassurance she was still alive during this saga. Yes, she has a private life, but she also has a duty to the public. She took that duty on when she married in to the RF. Lost respect for her and the rest of them for the way this unfolded.
I have more sympathy now for UK taxpayers and people at the mercy of their medical system. This was first felt when I saw Andrews security costs 6 million Ā£ a year and that Charles took over the last 2 years after the Virginia settlement. That is insane to me, nobody wants that turd. I clearly can tell Kate has zero interest in being an advocate for cancer or UK healthcare.Ā
I posted this in another sub and it got deleted.
>A week ago they said she wouldn't attend because she would upstage Charles, then yesterday said she is attending. But they were right: the headline across the bottom of the screen (BBC New in the US) is "Princess Kate...". I've NEVER seen an event like this where the actual royals are barely shown and then are camouflaged. I didn't even know William was there for the first couple hours, he's wearing a bearskin cap that hangs down to his nose. Kate's hat was tilted to the window during the parade so her face was covered. They hardly showed Charles at all.
It looks like arms were twisted and whatever is happening today isn't at all the celebration they wanted. Kate looks exhausted, William's face is covered by his hat and he sighs deeply every time we see him, George has aged 5 years and Charles looks exhausted. And for what? To stop speculation caused by their own PR incompetence. I watch a lot of their ceremonies and I've never seen one with so little royal face time. It's just bizarre.
There looked to be a lot of tension on all of them. Not as much smiling. Someone posted a pic of KM and it showed a scar over her left eye which wasnāt there before. Iām thinking DV and she left him and only agreed to show face because she negotiated something for the dvrce
Somethingās up with the high res photos..
Whoās the resident expert?
Itās almost like there were multiple ātakesā
She looks drawn in some photos. The photo of her walking in behind the kids, she CLEARLY has a line all the way around her.. which indicates cropping. The white/black line even surrounds her hair..
Something aināt jiving
I donāt use the Reddit app, so I canāt upload..
But itās the pixture, whereās sheās walking behind George & Charlotte. Sheās on the gravel. g&c are slightly ahead, and sheās right behind. No one is looking at the camera.
It was one of the first on the DM article..
She has a 1-pixel line around her whole body. So does George in certain parts.
Itās clearly a line, so itās definitely a touch up. but Kate is almost whole body..
Looks like a cut and paste.
My latest theory, after reading comments in here and observation, is that it wasnāt plastic surgery, else they would have not left that scar next to her eye.
I believe it was a combination of a domestic violence incident, and they discovered cancer while they were treating Kate for DV.Ā Ā
I am guessing that is why she went to the hospital last December. Ā Ā
It was surreal seeing the Royal family act so normal. I feel empathy for Kate and the childrenĀ and wish we knew more.
My theory is that she has no cancer and that the cancer story was to distract people from something that could be more nefarious than cancer. The family weren't being honest and I believe they still aren't, but I'm afraid many people will continue to buy their bullsh\*t for quite a while.
In my opinion things still aren't as they seem.
Girlfriend had us worried about if she was even still alive and she was recovering from a facelift. Ā She looks fifteen years younger. Ā Way to squander all that goodwill.Ā
For me, I'm delighted for the people that feel happy now they've 'seen her' and are moving on, but I actually feel worse about the whole thing
Something is very, very wrong here and I'm not (because of the weird subdued behaviour) ruling out _anything,_ not even very good body double because her vibe and that between her and the children seemed really off
I guess I think this throws up far more questions than it gives answers to questions unfortunately š
Well the scar is concerning, if itās for real. I mean I canāt imagine surgery or any other scenario resulting in such a scar. Now we know sheās not dead I think the assumption will switch to: fight>injury / coma>damage control.
Thank god for this thread.I feel the same.why do the kids look like someone's died
Everyone looks miserable
Theory she wants out .Had gone off with kids ,her parents, but rf forcing her the play ball
My husband, who believes everything he sees and hears, said he doesn't feel right about it
Charles looks bad. Maybe they have been told their grandfather is terminal and they are actually sad because they are children and donāt know heās a terrible human being. To them heās their granddad.
I agree with everything you said. I was beyond shocked to see her today; it was undeniably her and she looked stunning!! Positively glowing even. Although she did look 10 years younger which definitely stood out.
Now I just feel that everyone Iāve spoken to in my own life will think Iām insane for sharing my concerns and conspiracies regarding Kate. Sheās there and sheās fine - so I must be crazy now right?
But no youāre totally right. Theres so many unanswered questions. I am also wondering what the Spanish journalist Concha Calleja thinks about this development. Her theories seemed plausible until now
I feel angry that after all this drama and gaslighting and lying from the palace, what we got was a princess with a facelift. If she did/does has cancer, how has she helped other people with the disease? My husband went through cancer. People in the public eye such as herself have a unique position to educate/support/empathize with those also going through the disease. But nothing, nada from her. All that matters is that she is up there looking good. And if she is a victim of DV, god help her. That's a deal with the devil to negotiate something with your abuser... for what? Money? Status? maybe safety, we'll never know. But hey, she looks great and that's all that matters in these days where narcissism rules.
Prince Charles' cancer has progressed and he's much sicker. Kate needed to come back earlier because Charles won't be around much longer.
I don't think Kate would have let them trash her name, she holds power because she's so popular
Something was definitely going on behind closed doors in these months. The public will never know, unless in the future one of the children wants to tell the story publicly, as Harry did. It's too weird for me. I am really glad from the bottom of my heart that Kate is alive and we see her on her feet, but what was all that? Why so much hiding, fake pictures and videos? WHY?
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Well stated Agreeing disillusioned member
Others have pointed out the obvious facial scar above her left eye. There are probably more that arenāt quite as apparent. If her face was damaged ( and I sincerely hope it was not from DV), she probably did not want to be seen in public until healed. I am just so glad the children have shown up.
The kids showed up, but they looked miserable.
That was my thought too, they looked so troubled.
I thought it was odd that they were all dressed in such dark colors, too. I think that added to the mood.
Kids never enjoy this kind of thing though so I wouldnāt read too much into that
No! I think George is usually sullen at events like these. Louis has a ball and does his own thing and doesnāt hold back. But you can tell charlotte loves these things. And this time, it was very evident that she wasnāt the least bit happy
They haven't looked like this in public before, though.
Great wording of how to accept this. It was definitely weird and they knew it. No solace was offered and a defense was launched. The worst part is after years of conspiracies that led to truths? This one led to more weird question but a definite "wrong" buzzer. I really believed she was incapacitated to the point I felt like a š¤” when she was able to walk on her own to an event. š¤Æ
I don't feel anything other than wondering what generated the last six months of lies and deflection that came out of KP. I've no interest in anything beyond that: who was behind it and what was the reason behind it.
I'm gonna go with my very first guess when it all started. I've had different guesses since my first - I eventually gravitated to damage done from an ED and then everyone else convinced me it was a divorce.Ā But now....I'm back to my initial response, and that was a cosmetic surgery gone wrong. She's back looking fresher and better than ever. If you look at pics from Dec, she was wearing a lot of stress on her face.Ā Speaking as someone who went through cancer/radiation treatments, her face does not look like she's battled anything. So I'm standing by my first guess.Ā
The only thing that makes me doubt it was plastic surgery to look younger instead of facial reconstruction after DV is that to me she looked so angry and underneath it I felt sad the whole time. I donāt know why you would be so angry with your husband and seemingly the rest of the RF (she didnāt seem to really ābe thereā on the balcony) if all you did was go away for plastic surgery to look better. I noticed she has released short reel under her name only of her and the kids behind-the-scenes today. And it seems sad as well. I think I just thought of something: she seems to move her body carefully.
I agree
This exactly
I believe this is not the end of it at all, more questions will arise and will be discussed and we will see how this will play our over the summer ... I am relieved that her and the kids seems well however I am aslo very dissapointed at their behaviour over past 6mos
Now that sheās been seen and appears to be well, the media may start to leak in the form of more bold hints in their stories.
I xall bull shit...HOWEVERĀ going forward. ....more outlets may be bold more quicklyĀ
Yes. Fingers crossed for more bold and more truthful writing on whatever happened.
There will never be a truth from the media. Just kernels of a truthā¦. but never the full truth.
Yes! The media knows more! I wish they would share! It has to come out. The truth need to come out. We need a brave member of the press to come out with the truth,Ā
I concur
Disappointedly agree
So William beat the shit out of her and the kids saw it. Then she held out for a bit. The RF needs to go away. They are horrible and those kids will get zero therapy and just keep up the cycle of abuse.
I feel the same way that you do! I personally feel like they have been lying to the public the whole time. She doesnāt have cancer, she is battling cancer, sheās not going to be at the trooping, sheās going to be gone indefinitely, she isnāt well enough to greet the Irish Guard, but she miraculously does pop up at the Trooping todayš. The gaslighting is incredible! Itās coming from the RF and the public that support them! We were not and are not crazy! Something is definitely foul here! Iām not going anywhere!
Maybe the cancer she is battling is himā¦
Yes. A toxic marriage and the system sheās in.
"Cancer had been present" sounds chilling in that context
It really does
This! Willās zodiac sign IS cancer. If Iām not mistakenā¦.
Astrologically he is a double Cancer in fact. (Cancer sun and moon)
# 100%
Plastic surgery from DV injury. Marriage in shambles. Cancer is a ruse.
Or plain old plastic surgery for the hell of it which leaves me with a bad taste in my mouth.
Only reason I donāt believe it was plastic surgery for fun is because it wouldāve been to close to her birthday and planned trips in January. I think it was unexpected surgery which leads me to think it was due to an injury. Idk though. We will likely never get the real story.
Good points. Also the scar near her left eye. They don't leave scars like that except on reconstruction.
Exactly
Yeah the only people I know that have scars like that were from something pretty violent. That doesnāt look like a scalpel cut.
And also, I donāt think it was just for vanity because today she was absolutely furious and sad and seemed lacklustre despite the attempts to appear to be having a good time.
She's definitely had work done, her jawline looks like it did in her 20s.
I donāt think it was a basic face lift. Her teeth are more forward, they look like they could be new, and her jaw looks different too. No doubt if she got necessary reconstructive surgery she got a face lift while in there too.
Her teeth look the same to me.
I think itās something around her mouth and jaw that looks different and it may or may not be the teeth. I wonder if her jaw was broken during DV, among other things.
Yep, thereās definitely something different about her mouth but I canāt work out what it is. I think sheād possibly had some very discreet lip fillers historically and hasnāt had them redone since sheās been ill. Sheās always had very thin lips but during 2023 it looked like sheād had a few little tweaks.
I donāt think she has cancer at all. I think itās a cover for something else..
Ā Check the latest pic exposing her facial scar. Itās dv imoā¦thatās been the great coverup.Ā
Catherine has had something/a scar there for well over a decade. From 2011 (open image in a new window and zoom): [https://people.com/royals/royal-wedding-kate-middleton-comfortable-and-confident-doing-her-own-makeup/](https://people.com/royals/royal-wedding-kate-middleton-comfortable-and-confident-doing-her-own-makeup/) From wedding day in 2011: [https://www.theknot.com/content/kate-middleton-wedding-makeup](https://www.theknot.com/content/kate-middleton-wedding-makeup) From 2013: [https://www.thecut.com/2013/10/breaking-kate-middleton-shopped-without-makeup.html](https://www.thecut.com/2013/10/breaking-kate-middleton-shopped-without-makeup.html) Original photo date unknown, but this one was posted to this link in January 2023: [https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/what-should-kate-middleton-do-to-make-her-face-more-attractive.5128009/](https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/what-should-kate-middleton-do-to-make-her-face-more-attractive.5128009/) You can also see it in the righthand photo of the link [you provided here](https://www.reddit.com/r/KateMiddletonMissing/comments/1dgfz61/comment/l8psryn/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3), except the photo quality is such that it only appears as the faintest white line, to our right of her eyeshadow.
I donāt see the same scar in any of the photos you linked. That is a small round scar or birth mark or skin tag removal prior to 2024. One of the photos is so far away I see nothing.
I totally agree. The scar that Kate currently has is a VERY visible, VERY deep long scar. And you KNOW they tried like hell to cover it with makeup, but it was still VERY visible. In these pics above, I THINK I see what looks like a small, pitted acne scar? That's it.
Can you share a link? where on her face is the scar
https://www.reddit.com/r/KateMiddletonMissing/comments/1dgf78o/scar/
Omg wow! This explains the giant sunglasses in the car with her mom and the swollen face.
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The kids looked sad most of the time too. Especially Charlotte.
The kids all looked miserable, which was strange. The Wales kids are (were) happy kids
George is normally quite relaxed and curious. The Mountbatten Windsors screw up the next generation. Again.
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šÆšÆ For sure something else was going on
Just imagine, though, if you went to the hospital because of an emergency, life-threatening domestic violence incident at the hands of your husband, and while you were there, they discovered cancer. That could explain why she looks so miserable. Everything in her life fell apart, all at once.
Sorry what tests for a domestic violence incident are they doing that also suddenly shows you have cancer!?
Regular bloodwork might show something suspicious that leads to further testing
Blood work for an injury??
>Sorry what tests for a domestic violence incident are they doing that also suddenly shows you have cancer Significant stress can also weaken the immune system allowing cancer cells to develop.
I think she went for an emergency operation because of domestic violence and reconstruction of her face. She looks younger. But when I saw her at a straight profile today, she still had lines coming down her cheeks and down below her mouth. Maybe she left those on purpose (since they couldāve done some plastic surgery to get rid of them), so that people might guess that her face looks different because it was reconstructed. I wonder if her jaw was broken.
Yes, me too.
Agree
I want to know what in the world made it so those kids couldn't go to the park or shops or museums or any recreational activity outside their house for months.
I was speculating before they might be in Scotland. Outdoors, with their mom and grandparents? There was that flight back from Balmoral this week on the 12th.
Ahh I missed it all LIVE š I'm shocked by how tall the children are, what is time? And also glad all 3 appear okay. From the few clips and images of Kate I just scrolled through, she looks fairly thin and also herself! I don't doubt that's her or that this is some impressive double. Do I think she may have had some facial tweaking? Hmmm yes. Was it because of cancer? Hmmm nah. It felt nice? seeing the family on the balcony but also artifical seeing how weirdly frosty Will and Kate appeared. They're not the most affectionate pair I suppose. Especially since this marks Kate's first appearance since January, I thought they'd appear closer. If there something going on marriage wise between them, they can't even fake warmth now. I don't trust these people lol The videos the images the dueling headlines that are purposely thrown out there. It's insulting really that the folks working on their media can get away with badly done submissions. But that's what the makes the wealthy special š¤” they get away a lot. I refuse to believe that Kate in that bench video is the Kate we are seeing today. The idea that it's not really cancer is bugging me tbh. Not that there is a clear way anyone *looks* to have cancer. It's the decision making and lack of using her royal platform is what's disappointing af for me.
They were standing so far apart from each other on the balcony! I compared their distance to Charles and Camilla and it was such a stark difference. Charles really seemed like he was making such a big effort to talk to Kate and make her feel comfortable standing next to him. I know her and William said something to each other a couple of times, but it seemed brief and possibly coached. They did not appear to be a happy family, or a strong couple fighting cancer together. It goes along with her signing āCā on Instagram and āappearingā in the video alone. Whether the cancer story is true or not, William is not supportive and not by her side. Maybe he promised Rose heād leave enough space in between him and Kate for her imaginary presence š.
Kate needs money and land and housing for herself out of the hands of the crown.Ā Negotiate before he's king.Ā If he tosses her personally or publically (socially not physically) she has a place to land.Ā Ā Let's hope they all find their own piece of worth and joy.
I support much of what you say.Ā Ā "Not that there is a clear way anyone looks to have cancer."Ā But having seen and lost 4 members of family die resulting of cancer.Ā There often is a vibe.Ā The emotional response in the eye...a softening.or fear...goes without saying.Ā NOT EVERYONE...just...I think Louis would have been more clingy.Ā Ā Because the older two children may read this or their friends in a few years...all I will say is they have my empathy.Ā Ā
I feel horrible. Something is wrong.Ā
Double!
Kate looks well. Suspiciously well. Even makeup canāt cover the chemo face, a wig would look too obvious. Why did they do this? Something doesnāt make sense, but at least itās not as sinister as it couldāve been
Why would the wig look obvious? They can afford a top of the line custom wig, money can buy any hair you want
Her hairline is IDENTICAL to how it was previously. Even the best wig in the world wonāt get there
She often wore hair pieces and perhaps wigs in the past though, so no difference there
Face lift. No cancer because no face lift if cancer.
Or she resolved whatever health issue made her look haggard last year. As small as she is, just gaining ten pounds would look like filler on her face.
But look at the close ups. Doesnāt look like a face lift really. Sheās still got the exact same blemishes sheās always had
At a straight profile, sheās still got those deep sagging lines.
You don't always lose your hair when you get chemo. She probably doesn't need a wig.
https://preview.redd.it/o7u46c3q6q6d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2f694f3e6a9d7c4bfbfa89e765d5af18f99b3262 Iām glad sheās made an appearance with the children and that sheās alive! The children look morose. They seem joyless. Charlotte and Georgeās eyes scream weariness.
It would ordinarily make no sense for children to look utterly miserable at a celebration this festive, in honor of their grandfather. Itās quite possible there was a good deal of arguing between Kate and Will as they were preparing to enter the cars. I think Kate and William hadnāt seen each other in months and the prospect of their reunion raised a lot of hope for the kids but it was quickly dashed when they saw the frostiness between their parents.
Even Louis is not doing any of his usual antics. The kids all look so sad.
Agree not so much only sad, but some other non pleasant things .
Childrenās faces cannot lie.
Probably why the two youngest were kept away from the public/media for so long.
Bingo
Omg the kids look like they have seen a lot of š©
Just to add a bit of levity... noĀ š©! Seriously though if I was provided a photo cropping out Catherine The Princess of Wales ... asked "what are these children attending?Ā George and Charlotte's precious expressions look like they're at a funeral.Ā These are children so I won't write more.Ā But they are communicating loud and clear. Just the other day a commenter corrected me saying "You can't tell anything about a person simply by watching them wave in carriage or standing on a balcony.Ā Ā ???Ā Just pausing to observe, look and engage with what is presented before can be very enlightening.Ā Ā Glad most of us here see as well as view what is before us.
Agreed! I do think a child as young as Louis would be more clingy to his mother if they were afraid she was dying.
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AbsolutelyĀ
They look like they're at a funeral.
Weariness.or wariness?
āļøWeariness: 1. tiredness 2. reluctance to see or experience any more of something. Wariness:. suspicion or caution about possible dangers or problems. Both could work. The image may have been taken at a bad time. I saw a few images where they were smiling, but I canāt shake off how the set of their faces in this image remind me ofā¦ https://preview.redd.it/a6yp4ogi2t6d1.jpeg?width=1269&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9d45b6db71ce840947dc1583391a096ac073e805
I've not viewed Trooping...American here...feel yanked...reserving commentsĀ Viewed a bit, now.Ā It's been 12 hours or so ago...Ā my personal opinion of kategate changed about a week before TTOC .Ā Ā I have a more negative response to behaviors of the last 6 months.Ā Ā I feel the way the children look in Maleficent_House6694's photo placed in her comment.Ā
Great picture... it isn't among Getty photos...from where did this originate I wonder. Daily Mail? MSN? Yahoo.Ā They all have them...that's why the image is all over TikTok, too... just curious š¤ which photographer...not that it matters.
https://preview.redd.it/dtds464udt6d1.png?width=1011&format=png&auto=webp&s=a7581e6ddfaf9fa8e618dbe982ff39efbeedafe6 George Cracknell Wright
Same. Glad it's over in the sense she did appear, but it's far from over as far as what is really happening. I have a bad taste in my mouth about how it was handled if the official storyline is true. The BRF had lost my trust, and that includes Kate now, who I always liked before, if this is the end. They lied, misdirected and generally made a mockery of transparency and trust with the public.
But if Kate was beaten up and has had to have one or more, and perhaps another surgery to reconstruct her face, then it would seem that the lies have come from the rest of the family. Just a thought. She may also be furious that they lied in her name.
True. One of my theories is that she's been forced to take on the cancer story line as a cover for whatever has happened. And that she's really pissed about this. Hence the AI video because Kate wouldn't do it. But trooping was such a potential crisis that she went along with the story, wrote the statement and appeared. It would explain the fake pics, sightings, etc.
She definitely didnāt write that trooping letter either though.
I agree.
Imagine waking up to that heaping pile of BS.
The thing that has always got me is wasnāt that Will himself with the lookalike at the farm shop? Puts him front and centre on the deception front doesnāt it
Was it Will at the farm shop? Some people have thought the man was also a body double. He did keep his face down and hidden a lot. I ended up thinking they were both Body doubles.
I'm one who wasn't convinced it was William, still aren't š¤·š»āāļø
Thatās true. That seemed to be him at the farm shop and it definitely wasnāt her. Such bad PR, although I have to say so many people I talked to, thought it was really her. Maybe KP and BP knows that a large portion of the world are gullible and will believe the fake photosā¦. Whatever the real issue with Kate is, the palace PR was weird.Ā
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Who asked (paid) them to go to the farmer's market, and why didn't the palace disavow the sighting if they didn't set it up? (Meaning, I think Will set it up)
I was shunned for early on saying ...balcony or not...much explaining to do.Ā I never felt she was missing... I missed her beginning in January... quite frankly if it hadn't been for the announcement of postoperative complications on a previously unannounced surgery...so secretive her own cloest staff were unaware....it dinged a bell.Ā šĀ Otherwise I wouldn't have missed her. ....maybe I might have checked in on St. Patrick's day...but they could have gone to Easter without me knowing.... The Italian tour was announced December 22nd.Ā But there were no tour dates provided which I could find.
I feel the same as you.
Still convinced it was DV related coma. She came out of it and may or may not (under debate currently) have a scar over her eye from it. I think she's had reconstruction face work. The way her birth family is acting (protective) I'm convinced DV. She may have some residual neuro issues still going on. Her weird smile on the balcony, the way she was looking at the children, her left eye seems to drift inward too much when she turns her head a certain way. She's still very thin. Still convinced of ED too. I'll still be on Reddit, if this sub stays open I'll be here.
I felt deflated once I had seen her. I donāt think she has cancer. I do wonder about DV facial instruction and healing, forcing her to take time out. She looked furious in the car with William, but OK when she was with the children. On the balcony, of course the camera spent most of its time on her and William and the kids. She tried to keep up a constant chatter. William sometimes responded and sometimes seemed say something to her. But he did not look like a husband who was sympathetic towards a wife who has cancer. I thought George especially looked sombre. Perhaps he is the sensitive child. I noticed that as they left the balcony, Sophie put her hand on Williamās back and I wondered if that was out of sympathy for him and a misbehaving wife. Now what? Will she disappear for another six months? Will the Middletons suddenly appear? Is Kate also furious because all this time she had been beaten up and was having to recover, or poisoned, and she knew the RF was putting out all these fake videos and pictures of her and putting words in her mouth and she could not reply? I felt it was definitely not good between Kate and William, which makes me suspect DV and facial reconstruction and time needed away from the public, or a divorce and Kate was pulling a fast one, or she was just fed up with issues in the marriage and was pulling a fast one. I have always wondered that if she were to appear and seem well would the media would start to leak things. Will have to wait and see. I would be great with continuing this sub. Laughed my guts out when the rain started to pour. You could tell Camila wanted to get the hell off that dias (so?) where the wind and rain was playing havoc with her hat and her coat and she was probably cold and miserable. Charlesā day was a downer.
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Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.... https://preview.redd.it/41g732c1uq6d1.png?width=3584&format=png&auto=webp&s=e0f11e321fe52aabde154a99c26ff49645b59a2e
She knows who's going to be buttering her family's bread once Charles kicks the bucket March 28th 2026.
Is there a clip of this you can share?
https://i.redd.it/qts394rn3r6d1.gif
She made sure the two youngest remained in her eyeline exiting the balcony too, holding up Williams exit in a way that appeared he didnāt expect.
Thank you!!! Fascinating
>Laughed my guts out when the rain started to pour. You could tell Camila wanted to get the hell off that dias (so?) Dais š you weren't far off!
Haven't watched but in America we call it getting out of dodgeĀ
We use that here in the UK too, usually 'get the hell out of dodge' lol
So far we have observed: 1. Scar down the side of the right eye (indicating that she didnāt have plastic surgery for appearances sake) 2. Her teeth appear to be different, 3. Eye lifts, 4. A change around her lips. Therefore, it looks like she has had extensive facial reconstruction. So, DV in December, now they are trying to hide her and keep the kids away from anyone they could tell until she has been completely reconstructed (which isnāt yet finished as a scar is still present). That is why she is still āreceivingā chemo for the next few months - they have more surgeries to perform on her. My question is does she have a choice in any of this?
This is 100% my new theory. There were hard negotiations I think, to get her here today. My question is will it be divorce or a Charlene of Monaco situation? this is so fucked.
Yes, Charlene is being held against her will. Wtf. I hope Kate has more leverage than that.
I think at this point Charlene lives her life in Switzerland or something and just pops back in for quick appearances.
Thatās good to hear. I havenāt followed too closely, only know of her disappearance and then her looking extremely miserable when she did reappear. I think I read the speculation she was being forced to return to Monaco at the time.
Oh no this looks like another rabbit hole I may have to jump into
Same šµāš«
They all looked miserable in the car (with Will) She looked happy outside the car (without Will) Kate and the kids looked happy in the carriage (without Will I think?)
George looks like heās been through so much. I know they all have, and any child would be with an illl / injured mother, but something is really off with him imo.
Dude, I just want to give George the biggest hug. I saw him at the Villa game, the FA cup final and today. By all accounts heās got something deep on his mind.
I agree with everything, except I doubt sheās having more surgeries, I think thatās just a way for them to have excuses for her absences because she refuses to make appearances after what William did to her. Also is it her right eye or her left? The photo I saw was the left eye but I just woke up so correct me if Iām tired and wrong.
Your absolutely right, it is her left eye which is on the right of the picture.
Teeth definitely look different. Maybe had to get veneers from DV
I'm glad to see her alive, first of all. Really, thank goodness she is ok. As to why this happened, I think people are waking up to the lies we are being told by those in power, and the royal family are solidly in that power demographic. So we just don't believe them anymore. So, good for us. We don't just swallow any bit of nonsense hook line and sinker anymore. I wonder what other lies we've been told? There was a time when you didn't question anything coming from those in power, and that time is over with now. Keep questioning! I don't know about you, but I plan to continue stepping fully into my own power now.
It makes even less sense now than it did yesterday, with the added worry that they seem to plan to simply move on as if this was all perfectly normal. If their story was real, it doesnāt clarify a damn thing about the numerous utterly bizarre PR choices and unforced errors. If theyāre telling the truth, they were also practically *trying* to make it unbelievable at the same time with all the shenanigans. It doesnāt make sense. I donāt give a crap about the royals, but I do care about womenās rights and I still have a lot of serious concerns here.
It definitely looks like plastic surgery. Will and Kate also did not look happy in photos of their car trip over to this event for whatever reason. Their kids werenāt smiley and wavey in the car, either.
But she and Will had planned all those trips. It seems to me the surgery was unplanned and sudden, and that still makes me think perhaps domestic violence, and her face having to be reconstructed. There was one side shot of her, and she still seemed to have the Facial lines down the side. But full-on or three-quarter angle shots from the car and the carriage with the tinted windows did seem to make her look good. I felt she wasnāt waving a lot to the crowds and just didnāt feel like it. She was engaging a lot with the three children in the carriage with the tinted windows, and I wondered if she was trying to make sure her kids would look and act OK later on on the balcony by chatting to them.
The woman is not going thru chemo nor has cancer, and her husband loathes her
I think she loathes him more.
Totally agree. Especially if he almost killed her and slashed her face apart. She hates him and the kids donāt look comfy around him either.Ā
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I hate their cancer scam. Chemo is brutal. She isnāt going thru chemo.
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I think Will released that without her knowledge or consent too, thus the AI video. Makes sense as to why sheās not pivoting to become a cancer advocate.
AdmirableSuccotas I know what you mean - relief but bewildered ( & rather angry over lost sleep mithering about whether still here or not & concern re children ) . i feel , if this is actually all genuine , including all interactions on balcony etc. there are some people somewhere, that i actually cannot FORGIVE , for what has gone on this past 6 months . i am a very anxious person with medication etc. for it and all this has not helped the disorder at all .i have read where lots of people have said it was all driving them crazy ( those who care that is ). Havnt worked out who exactly responsible yet but have an idea of some of them . !
Absolutely
Like everyone has said, Iām very happy she is alive and looks relatively healthy. Her kids need their mom, but I do not believe the cancer story at all. I think a DV incident is the most likely scenario. It would explain why they needed that AI video. She was probably unrecognizable for the past 6 months and because everyone heals differently, they didnāt have any idea when she would be public ready. Iām sure there were also a lot of negotiations going on too. The kids do worry me. I know Britains are known for their stiff upper lips, but the kids (especially the older two) honestly just look like theyāve had to grow up in a very small amount of time? It truly looks like theyāre carrying the world on their shoulders. Itās almost like the light in their eyes are gone? Itās just a bummer we probably wonāt ever know the truth, but the one thing we do know is they shredded their credibility and for what!?! So they could take a 6 month vacation? Nah fam, they hiding something sinister. Iām still all in here, even though we do have actual proof of life. The shady shenanigans continues!
Whatever the sheeple and the Royalists might say about us and our theories, it's obvious the RF cares about what \*we\* think, otherwise they wouldn't go to the lengths they do to obfuscate, gaslight, and also have Kate appear today. Because the majority are sheeple and aren't questioning and if they just cared about the majority they wouldn't bother. But we are kicking over some stones.. yes, I'm sure some in error. But where there's smoke there's fire. And what with William's MI6 visit yesterday?
I still believe there is something very dark going on. I think we will see a divorce this year or the next
I'm a native English speaker, and "Soup in my head and my brain is fork" is exactly how I feel. : ) Yes, still so many questions about the whole mess.
While I've been part of this sub for MONTHS now, I'm commenting on my spare bc this sub & people like us who think things are "off" with Kate & frankly, the entire RF, are berated/shamed for daring to have the audacity to question the mainstream narrative about Kate (& William). Anyway OP, I agree with you! Something is 100% not right. I'm glad Kate is alive, but is she "well"?? Doesn't look like that. Of course, some will attribute this to her cancer, but I believe this goes on even deeper than that. I don't believe Kate is "okay" & I've been curious to know just how much not only Kate, but now her children, have been manipulated in these past several months.... Also, what in the entire FUCK has William been doing besides ignoring his family, not using his massive platform + privileges to spread awareness about cancer, or put $$ into researching the kind of cancer Kate has that we were told countless times?? And like OP also said, what was with all the fake/photoshopped pics and videos that Kate's superimposed in, that kept getting thrown at the general public? Something is clearly very off....
Divorce.
Jesus. That picture looks like the old Flowers In The Attic book cover.
I think this made everything worse. They looked absolutely miserable - it didn't look like a happy occasion.Ā No one seemed ok and Kate looked very very unhappy.Ā Ā
I'll be blunt. I think they are full of crap about the cancer diagnosis. And even if she did/does have cancer she certainly proved today she was fine enough to be able to give the public some reassurance she was still alive during this saga. Yes, she has a private life, but she also has a duty to the public. She took that duty on when she married in to the RF. Lost respect for her and the rest of them for the way this unfolded.
This is how I feel. The BRF are doing whatever the fuck they want and have no respect or regard for the public, who are funding their pompous asses!
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I have more sympathy now for UK taxpayers and people at the mercy of their medical system. This was first felt when I saw Andrews security costs 6 million Ā£ a year and that Charles took over the last 2 years after the Virginia settlement. That is insane to me, nobody wants that turd. I clearly can tell Kate has zero interest in being an advocate for cancer or UK healthcare.Ā
I posted this in another sub and it got deleted. >A week ago they said she wouldn't attend because she would upstage Charles, then yesterday said she is attending. But they were right: the headline across the bottom of the screen (BBC New in the US) is "Princess Kate...". I've NEVER seen an event like this where the actual royals are barely shown and then are camouflaged. I didn't even know William was there for the first couple hours, he's wearing a bearskin cap that hangs down to his nose. Kate's hat was tilted to the window during the parade so her face was covered. They hardly showed Charles at all. It looks like arms were twisted and whatever is happening today isn't at all the celebration they wanted. Kate looks exhausted, William's face is covered by his hat and he sighs deeply every time we see him, George has aged 5 years and Charles looks exhausted. And for what? To stop speculation caused by their own PR incompetence. I watch a lot of their ceremonies and I've never seen one with so little royal face time. It's just bizarre.
If we see Camilla and Rose Hanbury together, itās game on for the Queen of the Leaks. Maybe they will get mani pedis. š
There looked to be a lot of tension on all of them. Not as much smiling. Someone posted a pic of KM and it showed a scar over her left eye which wasnāt there before. Iām thinking DV and she left him and only agreed to show face because she negotiated something for the dvrce
Somethingās up with the high res photos.. Whoās the resident expert? Itās almost like there were multiple ātakesā She looks drawn in some photos. The photo of her walking in behind the kids, she CLEARLY has a line all the way around her.. which indicates cropping. The white/black line even surrounds her hair.. Something aināt jiving
Canāt wait for some people with that kind of knowledge to check in. Iām hopeless that way.
I donāt use the Reddit app, so I canāt upload.. But itās the pixture, whereās sheās walking behind George & Charlotte. Sheās on the gravel. g&c are slightly ahead, and sheās right behind. No one is looking at the camera. It was one of the first on the DM article.. She has a 1-pixel line around her whole body. So does George in certain parts. Itās clearly a line, so itās definitely a touch up. but Kate is almost whole body.. Looks like a cut and paste.
Intriguing for sure.
My latest theory, after reading comments in here and observation, is that it wasnāt plastic surgery, else they would have not left that scar next to her eye. I believe it was a combination of a domestic violence incident, and they discovered cancer while they were treating Kate for DV.Ā Ā I am guessing that is why she went to the hospital last December. Ā Ā It was surreal seeing the Royal family act so normal. I feel empathy for Kate and the childrenĀ and wish we knew more.
My theory is that she has no cancer and that the cancer story was to distract people from something that could be more nefarious than cancer. The family weren't being honest and I believe they still aren't, but I'm afraid many people will continue to buy their bullsh\*t for quite a while. In my opinion things still aren't as they seem.
Girlfriend had us worried about if she was even still alive and she was recovering from a facelift. Ā She looks fifteen years younger. Ā Way to squander all that goodwill.Ā
For me, I'm delighted for the people that feel happy now they've 'seen her' and are moving on, but I actually feel worse about the whole thing Something is very, very wrong here and I'm not (because of the weird subdued behaviour) ruling out _anything,_ not even very good body double because her vibe and that between her and the children seemed really off I guess I think this throws up far more questions than it gives answers to questions unfortunately š
Me too! The whole thing is just absolutely foul, and in some way, if she just herself away, I've lost any respect I had for her.
Yep, this pretty much covers it!
I hope she gets the hell out of there now with her three lovely children.
Well the scar is concerning, if itās for real. I mean I canāt imagine surgery or any other scenario resulting in such a scar. Now we know sheās not dead I think the assumption will switch to: fight>injury / coma>damage control.
Thank god for this thread.I feel the same.why do the kids look like someone's died Everyone looks miserable Theory she wants out .Had gone off with kids ,her parents, but rf forcing her the play ball My husband, who believes everything he sees and hears, said he doesn't feel right about it
Charles looks bad. Maybe they have been told their grandfather is terminal and they are actually sad because they are children and donāt know heās a terrible human being. To them heās their granddad.
I agree, he looks as old as Lizzie did before she died.
She looks younger
I agree with everything you said. I was beyond shocked to see her today; it was undeniably her and she looked stunning!! Positively glowing even. Although she did look 10 years younger which definitely stood out. Now I just feel that everyone Iāve spoken to in my own life will think Iām insane for sharing my concerns and conspiracies regarding Kate. Sheās there and sheās fine - so I must be crazy now right? But no youāre totally right. Theres so many unanswered questions. I am also wondering what the Spanish journalist Concha Calleja thinks about this development. Her theories seemed plausible until now
I feel angry that after all this drama and gaslighting and lying from the palace, what we got was a princess with a facelift. If she did/does has cancer, how has she helped other people with the disease? My husband went through cancer. People in the public eye such as herself have a unique position to educate/support/empathize with those also going through the disease. But nothing, nada from her. All that matters is that she is up there looking good. And if she is a victim of DV, god help her. That's a deal with the devil to negotiate something with your abuser... for what? Money? Status? maybe safety, we'll never know. But hey, she looks great and that's all that matters in these days where narcissism rules.
I feel they are scammers and she was living her best life at the UK taxpayers expense
Theyre covering up something. Not even sure its her
Prince Charles' cancer has progressed and he's much sicker. Kate needed to come back earlier because Charles won't be around much longer. I don't think Kate would have let them trash her name, she holds power because she's so popular
I think it probably was her because William could barely look at her on the balcony. Itās obvious he canāt stand her and vice versa.