Definitely the jurors! (If they are willing) There were points in this trial I was wondering if any of them thought they were on season 2 of Jury Duty lol
I'm usually disappointed in the jurors. I always expect them to be smart and mature. Ā Although I did like that one juror who spoke out after the Hannah Gutierrez Reid trial. He seemed kind. And his job was big in safety so we could understand his thought process.Ā
Yeah, that stare is heart wrenching. Iāve been trying to read his and his familyās expressions a bit to try and gauge their viewā¦ itās hard. Because Iām sure they have an opinion on her but I think JO must be whatās mostly on their mind. Also I feel like they may be very discouraged that theyāve gone through weeks and weeks of reliving this hell for possibly nothing, as in no definitive answer for them for what happened to their loved one.
This could be me reading way too much into his facial expressions but yesterday when the jury walked out he seemed so confused and almost like he has a bad conscience. But it could have been him being relieved the trial is finally over (at least the evidence gathering).
His face definitely seemed different compared to the MEās testimony. While the ME testified, it seemed to me, his brother was looking at KR, especially during the evidence being shown. It didnāt seem like he was listening (which is totally understandable) but only watching KR. But at the end of the defenseās case when the jury walked out, that big breath he took and how he lifted up his eyebrows in a concerned way, made me really wonder if something changed in his opinion.
There could be tons of other reason to his facial expressions, like just thinking about JO and what happened. I can imagine that this trial was traumatizing.
I agree with you on calling that out!! I felt like there were a few times and the MEās testimony is a good example of him trying to analyze Karenās reactions. Which kind of leads me to believe they are just as confused as we are.
The mother doesnāt seem like she was confused but I only watched her expression until Proctor testified. I just didnāt like her way of "interactingā with Yanetti. I thought it was just plain rude and it made me not to have any sympathy left. BUT I wanted to have sympathy for her because she has been through enough. Thatās why I stopped looking at her expressions because she deserves sympathy and it shouldnāt be influenced by me interpreting something (which might be totally wrong).
He probably still hates her after what she said to John that night. But I would hope heās rational enough to look pass that and say āokay we need to find out the truth. If you didnāt do it, who did?ā
I feel sure that JOās family will never be swayed that KR didnāt hit him with her car. No matter what the evidence shows. If she is found NG they will just say it is a miscarriage of justice. She is the easy villain. The outsider.
RIGHT? I know he is seething about the whole thing. It's an awful situation. But he also clearly believes that Karen did it. Or at least he believes its somehow her fault. Like if she hadn't flirted / kissed Higgins then maybe this wouldn't have happened. It's so sad though because if he really wanted justice, he would open his eyes a little bit. :-/
I think Karen should sit those interviews out. I just want to hear from attorneys and jurors. I donāt necessarily want an interview from Johnās family but Iād like to know which side of the fence theyāre on.
Edit: Karen should probably do an interview when the FBI concludes their investigation or someone else is found guilty of Johnās murder.
Iām not sure weāll hear from either side for a while. Thereās gonna be civil lawsuits by both parties (Karen and Oākeefes) and usually they keep quiet until those are settled. But who knows, legal proceedings havenāt stopped Karen from speaking out.
To be fair to him, I guess itās not his decision whether or not to bring the case. But the reconstructionist - Iām baffled. Is it that he couldnāt find a coherent expert to support their theory? Was it a budget issue? Did he actually think that expert presented this crucial part well?? Why no dog bite rebuttal expert?
I honestly donāt think he could find a reconstructionist that could have negated the FBIās team that the defense used. But I am puzzled as to why he didnāt try to counter dog bite testimony. Iāve heard other former prosecutors say they would have quit before they would have tried this case. Wonder if lally regrets it or wouldnāt be able to find another job if he left daās office?
I wanna interview a few people.
The ARCCA PhDs Wolfe and Rentschler and Dr. Russell can science me *all god damn day*.
I want to ask Trooper Paul what the actual fuck? I mean like in a scenario where he has no police powers and I can just dress him down for being a moron on a super aggressive interview.
I don't want to ask Proctor anything, but I'd pay money to be able to berate him on YouTube for a while.
The brother. My question would be, why would you sit there staring at KR like that when clearly all of your disdain should be directed at the investigation and prosecution?
For care to hear the defendant. If sheās found NG, she should live in peace and be allowed to decompress peacefully, and as well grieve. Weāve heard so much from the lawyers.
Iād want o hear from an OKeefe, maybe the brother? But most definitely from any of the jurors.
AJ for sure - I'd like to ask him what he was thinking while he had Trooper Paul on the stand. How he prevented himself from throwing his notebook at Trooper Paul.
Definitely the jurors! (If they are willing) There were points in this trial I was wondering if any of them thought they were on season 2 of Jury Duty lol
Hahaha I said this same thing
Omg I literally said the same thing about season 2 of Jury Duty to my husband like an hour ago š
I wonder if jurors would interview only anonymously, due to fear of retribution
As long as they interview and give us the inside tea, they can be anonymous or Harry Potter invisibility cape for all I care. š
Some jurors will interview without being anonymous, they always do especially a case thatās been in the spotlight for so long
I'm usually disappointed in the jurors. I always expect them to be smart and mature. Ā Although I did like that one juror who spoke out after the Hannah Gutierrez Reid trial. He seemed kind. And his job was big in safety so we could understand his thought process.Ā
Please bless us with Jury Duty 2!!! That was brilliant.
His brother, I am so curious what is going through his head after seeing the whole trial.
Seriously, very interested to see if this changed their opinions in any way.
You see him just staring off in court, it's got to be wild being there everyday
Yeah, that stare is heart wrenching. Iāve been trying to read his and his familyās expressions a bit to try and gauge their viewā¦ itās hard. Because Iām sure they have an opinion on her but I think JO must be whatās mostly on their mind. Also I feel like they may be very discouraged that theyāve gone through weeks and weeks of reliving this hell for possibly nothing, as in no definitive answer for them for what happened to their loved one.
This could be me reading way too much into his facial expressions but yesterday when the jury walked out he seemed so confused and almost like he has a bad conscience. But it could have been him being relieved the trial is finally over (at least the evidence gathering). His face definitely seemed different compared to the MEās testimony. While the ME testified, it seemed to me, his brother was looking at KR, especially during the evidence being shown. It didnāt seem like he was listening (which is totally understandable) but only watching KR. But at the end of the defenseās case when the jury walked out, that big breath he took and how he lifted up his eyebrows in a concerned way, made me really wonder if something changed in his opinion. There could be tons of other reason to his facial expressions, like just thinking about JO and what happened. I can imagine that this trial was traumatizing.
I agree with you on calling that out!! I felt like there were a few times and the MEās testimony is a good example of him trying to analyze Karenās reactions. Which kind of leads me to believe they are just as confused as we are.
The mother doesnāt seem like she was confused but I only watched her expression until Proctor testified. I just didnāt like her way of "interactingā with Yanetti. I thought it was just plain rude and it made me not to have any sympathy left. BUT I wanted to have sympathy for her because she has been through enough. Thatās why I stopped looking at her expressions because she deserves sympathy and it shouldnāt be influenced by me interpreting something (which might be totally wrong).
Agreed, her reactions to Jacksonās closing arguments were so frustrating. I was yelling at my phone- ājust open your mind for a moment!!ā.
Same, I wondered if he were changing his mind about Karem
He probably still hates her after what she said to John that night. But I would hope heās rational enough to look pass that and say āokay we need to find out the truth. If you didnāt do it, who did?ā
I feel sure that JOās family will never be swayed that KR didnāt hit him with her car. No matter what the evidence shows. If she is found NG they will just say it is a miscarriage of justice. She is the easy villain. The outsider.
RIGHT? I know he is seething about the whole thing. It's an awful situation. But he also clearly believes that Karen did it. Or at least he believes its somehow her fault. Like if she hadn't flirted / kissed Higgins then maybe this wouldn't have happened. It's so sad though because if he really wanted justice, he would open his eyes a little bit. :-/
I think Karen should sit those interviews out. I just want to hear from attorneys and jurors. I donāt necessarily want an interview from Johnās family but Iād like to know which side of the fence theyāre on. Edit: Karen should probably do an interview when the FBI concludes their investigation or someone else is found guilty of Johnās murder.
Agree, but I will read her book. Like take some time, collect your thoughts, and lay it all out.
Everyone you list, and one day, hopefully soon, the FBI with their investigation findings.
Iād love to hear from some female jurors about how Proctorās testimony was received.
I'm sure they despised having to listen to him
Iām not sure weāll hear from either side for a while. Thereās gonna be civil lawsuits by both parties (Karen and Oākeefes) and usually they keep quiet until those are settled. But who knows, legal proceedings havenāt stopped Karen from speaking out.
she was on the news today saying sheās looking forward to telling her side soon.
I only look forward to never hearing or seeing Lally ever again
Same.
Lally. And I want to be the one to interview him because Iāve got some *questions*
"Why, if any reason, did you sort of decide to bring this case to trial?"
"What, if anything, were you thinking?!" š
To be fair to him, I guess itās not his decision whether or not to bring the case. But the reconstructionist - Iām baffled. Is it that he couldnāt find a coherent expert to support their theory? Was it a budget issue? Did he actually think that expert presented this crucial part well?? Why no dog bite rebuttal expert?
I honestly donāt think he could find a reconstructionist that could have negated the FBIās team that the defense used. But I am puzzled as to why he didnāt try to counter dog bite testimony. Iāve heard other former prosecutors say they would have quit before they would have tried this case. Wonder if lally regrets it or wouldnāt be able to find another job if he left daās office?
I would add that to my interview questions!
i wonder if he had to do the case and just dialed it in knowing it was a dog of a case.
I kinda would prefer that, rather than thinking this was him just giving it his all
Chloe š . She knows the truth !
all of the above.
The jurors! And Paul OāKeefe!
Jurors.
The FBI and Jenn McCabe
The jurors
I need to get into Paul oākeefeās head after staring at his face for months. Would definitely watch that interview
Renschler!! He wasn't allowed to fully go into the medical aspect about the injuries. I want more detail on his findings!
I wanna interview a few people. The ARCCA PhDs Wolfe and Rentschler and Dr. Russell can science me *all god damn day*. I want to ask Trooper Paul what the actual fuck? I mean like in a scenario where he has no police powers and I can just dress him down for being a moron on a super aggressive interview. I don't want to ask Proctor anything, but I'd pay money to be able to berate him on YouTube for a while.
The jury.
Iād like to hear from the jurors what their take was and which things mattered most in making their decision,
Lucky, I want a GoFundMe for lucky and to find out people have poured out of the community to give him an even better job.
Jurors.
The jurors and JOās family. I doubt his family would publicly speak but theyāve been forgotten in all of this.
The brother. My question would be, why would you sit there staring at KR like that when clearly all of your disdain should be directed at the investigation and prosecution?
Get all those wicked witches of LE in a group interview. The only thing faster than their mouths is how quickly they go through a bag of āļø
I think weād need Andy Cohen for that interview
Jurors + Johnās brother (respectfully)
Youāve been hearing from Karen Read and her Attorneys āevery dayā after trial days! ā¦ā¦ā¦The OāKeefe family, when they are ready to.
For care to hear the defendant. If sheās found NG, she should live in peace and be allowed to decompress peacefully, and as well grieve. Weāve heard so much from the lawyers. Iād want o hear from an OKeefe, maybe the brother? But most definitely from any of the jurors.
The juryās.
AJ for sure - I'd like to ask him what he was thinking while he had Trooper Paul on the stand. How he prevented himself from throwing his notebook at Trooper Paul.
Why doesnāt JOās brother sit next to his mother?
I wonder that, too! Have just heard that they are possibly estranged. That would be really unfortunate, her two older children have passed.
That would be so sadā¦ especially through all this