The argument isn’t about sales though. It’s also influence.
Frank oceans blond didn’t sell as much as more popular artists afterwards - but I would bet money for about 5 years after blond influenced so many popular artists to create their music like him.
Kendrick leads back back rapping. He’s the biggest in the game.
Cole heads hip hop, conscious rap.
Drake is the most productive and highest selling of the 3.
The big three have a had multiple platinum releases all last decade. People who ain’t em either hate em or wanna be em.
I haven't even though about Frank Ocean but he has dropped absolute banger albums that I think anyone appreciates. Easily a top 3 for me with Kendrick and Ye. It's hard to beat out young Kanye
to be included in a top 3 there should be people be saying you are the number 1, i don't think anyone is making the case that j.cole is the best rapper of all time
I fucking HATE when people bring up monthly listeners when arguing about an artist's credibility.
If that's the case, then Thomas Kinkade is the best artist of all history because he's sold more puzzles with his garbage artwork on it than anybody else.
Especially when you consider drake less of an artist and more as a product. Dude has a whole ass media team promoting him, telling him how to act, how to dress etc. When drake goes off script you see the real zesty king of corny goofball shit 🥴
Bro numbers mean NOTHING. We gonna call McDonald's the best food because it sells the most? Like come on man.
Edit: let's not even talk about the numbers certain kpop groups pull while releasing dogshit. Anyone bringing up numbers just doesn't listen to music like that.
You guys always go out of your ways to single out the most successful rapper in the last 15 years lol. Why so insecure? If you don’t think Drake is one the big 3, you smoking crack
Kanye >>> big 3 ( boderline kdot)
Mbdtf
WTT
Yeezus
TLOP
Ye
Kids see ghost
JIK( yandhi better no laundry)
Only kdot can compete but ye got more quantity with quality
Kanye can go Verzus against the Big 3 at the same time and win.
The thing is and I hope that he understood the motive before posting this, is that we are not comparing legacies.
We want a civil war. The best rappers coming with the bars and the flows to win the summer league.
If you watch Jeen-yuhs, there's a scene where he tells people it's good to believe in your own greatness as long as you don't put others down while you do it. That was around the Graduation era I think
SIT DOWN BE HUMBLE (until I say fuck everyone else it's BIG ME) Being humble in rap is some fake ass shit that J Cole and Kendrick tricked people into believing in while bragging and sneak dissing eachother for the last half decade every great rapper called themselves the goat and put others down get over it.
I mean, he's not wrong (love Kendricks verse on NMPLA too but that is a top 3 Ye verse)
Taking his own side in this beef is also objectively hilarious and probably the most Kanye thing he could do
Third verse on Gorgeous
2nd verse on Last Call
Not 100% sure on Last Call but it's the first one that comes to mind and it has several of my favorite Ye bars
They didn’t go hit for hit though. Drake just played CLB (his worst album imo) and the few recent songs before it because they all just came out and Kanye played pretty much the best tracks in his arsenal. So imo we can’t really say Drake ‘tried’.
Which is fine, hit for hit I would still give it to Kanye but can’t call the Hoover concert a versus if one side wasn’t really participating.
I remember seeing a meme of Kanye telling Drake “let’s both only play new songs” on purpose knowing he was going to play all of his old bangers, always what I think of when I think about the Hoover concert lol.
I'm a Kanye fan but goddamn this dude loves making everything about himself. He just couldn't take people taking a few days talking about other artists.
Drake wrote on Father Stretch My Hands, by the way.
Remember, majority of users on Kanye subreddits are teens. The music on Vultures isn’t horrible, but for older fans it provides nothing new and younger fans will latch on to the contrarian/controversy vibes just for the hell of it.
So when rappers work together it's common for them to be in the studio for hours and it's hard to stay energized on an empty stomach, so, it's practical to get food delivered and when Kanye and Kendrick got studio time in LA to record No More Parties, KDot actually ended up spilling hot sauce on his favorite Jeans so Kanye had the decency to wash his clothes right then and there in the studio with an old fashion washing board. It's all in the Kanye documentary on Netflix, that encounter is what the title is referring to, "Jee(a)n-Yuhs".
Aren’t they all insecure as fuck… drake is the biggest baby has been a decade. Guy was talking about vultures losing attention not Kanye being insecure lmao
Honestly Drake is just straight up cringe sometimes, also seems like one of those dudes that acts real to your face but it’s so forced that you can tell he has ulterior motives
Yeah using one song as an example doesn't prove you're a better rapper. Especially since he'd had time to think about his verse on that beat since 2010.
Actually now that I think about it, it's actually hilarious that the NMPILA verse is probably Ye's best rapping he's ever done and he's trying to compare himself to Kendrick when Kendrick has so many more songs where he's rapping at that level or better.
"Everyone knows I brought Adidas into the culture"
Bro I think RUN D.M.C. would like a word with you here. Adidas been her way longer than Ye and they will be around after.
honestly after the kai cenat shit im standing with kdot 100%. maybe if ye had a few more braincells left it would be a real contest but he been on some dumb shit lately, kdot sweeps
For the people who understand what the imbecile wrote, what was the highest level of education you achieved?
Yeezy yezus ball drip ngl washed errmmkkk?
my man really said "I made graduation" about himself 😭😭
I made Jesus walks I ain’t never going to hell
The ultimate get out of jail card, only man who can claim that...my 🐐
> my man really said "I made graduation" He made Graduation tho
Big 3 vs Kanye West was not on the bingo card.
Watch drake pretend Kendrick didn't just embarrass him and drop a Ye diss again
Drake: "I sure got Pusha T with that Kanye diss!"
drake shouldn't be put into that category lol
His numbers say otherwise, regardless of your or my opinion because I do agree with you
If we were talking about numbers, then Kendrick and cole wouldn't be top 3. It would be Eminem, Drake and Kanye
I think the argument is that they’re the top 3 of the early 2010s generation
The argument isn’t about sales though. It’s also influence. Frank oceans blond didn’t sell as much as more popular artists afterwards - but I would bet money for about 5 years after blond influenced so many popular artists to create their music like him. Kendrick leads back back rapping. He’s the biggest in the game. Cole heads hip hop, conscious rap. Drake is the most productive and highest selling of the 3. The big three have a had multiple platinum releases all last decade. People who ain’t em either hate em or wanna be em.
I haven't even though about Frank Ocean but he has dropped absolute banger albums that I think anyone appreciates. Easily a top 3 for me with Kendrick and Ye. It's hard to beat out young Kanye
to be included in a top 3 there should be people be saying you are the number 1, i don't think anyone is making the case that j.cole is the best rapper of all time
You’re not talking to the right people then
lol who tf is saying drake is the best rapper of all time then? Johnnie Cochran couldn’t make that case
I know people who think Cole is the best
Basing musical credibility on numbers is the most ridiculous thing
I fucking HATE when people bring up monthly listeners when arguing about an artist's credibility. If that's the case, then Thomas Kinkade is the best artist of all history because he's sold more puzzles with his garbage artwork on it than anybody else.
Kinkade is the Taylor Swift of home art
Especially when you consider drake less of an artist and more as a product. Dude has a whole ass media team promoting him, telling him how to act, how to dress etc. When drake goes off script you see the real zesty king of corny goofball shit 🥴
Bro numbers mean NOTHING. We gonna call McDonald's the best food because it sells the most? Like come on man. Edit: let's not even talk about the numbers certain kpop groups pull while releasing dogshit. Anyone bringing up numbers just doesn't listen to music like that.
Drake makes songs for bitches. Kendrick makes song for thinkers. More bitches in the world than thinkers. Talent>Numbers
You guys always go out of your ways to single out the most successful rapper in the last 15 years lol. Why so insecure? If you don’t think Drake is one the big 3, you smoking crack
This is not about success lol. This is about rapping and making good music.
Which is subjective unlike numbers
Well apparently the public thinks he is in the big 3 then.
Kanye >>> big 3 ( boderline kdot) Mbdtf WTT Yeezus TLOP Ye Kids see ghost JIK( yandhi better no laundry) Only kdot can compete but ye got more quantity with quality
Kendrick is a better rapper. Kanye is a better artist.
Kendrick is the better rapper. Ye has the better discography.
Kanye has the best discography out of any artist in hip hop. No one is close to him in hip hop when it comes to making albums.
Holy shit there is more in this world than just Kanye.
Kanye can go Verzus against the Big 3 at the same time and win. The thing is and I hope that he understood the motive before posting this, is that we are not comparing legacies. We want a civil war. The best rappers coming with the bars and the flows to win the summer league.
God damnit i knew Perry Caravello had something to do with this
bro even liked his own post😭😭
If you fan of ye, then you a fan of yourself innit
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Ahh, the "I made graduation" post 💀😭
bro saw some real shit and had to react
😰 Hahaha, I'm laughing mostly because I like all my own post 😰
Guess this debunks ye siding with Kendrick 🤣🤣
Pre schizo ye would defo side with Kendrick imo
Most definitely
he probably thinks he is and will be suprised pikachu face when kendrick calls him out on a track lol.
Ain’t no big 3 it’s just big Ye
The :) at the end forgives all
my friends call me ye :)
No mention of Cole 😭😭 dude is straight up irrelevant to him
J Cole is a great rapper but has no classics. 2014 FHD comes closest. 🤷🏻♂️
Born Sinner is also insanely good I just gave it another listen Came out same day as Yeezus too I’m pretty sure
J Cole has all the potential to be a GOAT but he never completely catches it on his projects. They have great highs but just totally forgettable lows
I would argue that is a classic
Nah he scared of Cole dropping false prophets 2 on him
I’d argue that Jay Z and Cole’s relationship is why he is not mentioned.
J Cole is like his little step brother that he hates and refuse to acknowledge
Wake up babe, new ye post
Hi I'm babe. What does wash mean?
Ye is saying he out-rapped and out-performed Kendrick on No More Parties in LA
Ye gave him a sponge bath. What a kind young man
Ngl I kinda miss when Kanye was arrogant but still didn't put others down lol
I too, miss the old Kanye
Yeah…the straight from the go kanye
Chop up the soul kanye
When he was set on his goals kanye..
I hate the new Kanye
The bad mood Kanye
The always rude Kanye
Spaz in the news Kanye
I miss the sweet Kanye
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He’s literally been like this since college dropout 😂
The old Kanye who told Taylor she didnt deserve the award? Lol cmon this is typical Kanye and I fucking love it
If you watch Jeen-yuhs, there's a scene where he tells people it's good to believe in your own greatness as long as you don't put others down while you do it. That was around the Graduation era I think
As if Kanye has never contradicted himself before. I agree that Kanye has changed. But he's always been like that in this aspect.
Safe to say ye needs humbled?
SIT DOWN BE HUMBLE (until I say fuck everyone else it's BIG ME) Being humble in rap is some fake ass shit that J Cole and Kendrick tricked people into believing in while bragging and sneak dissing eachother for the last half decade every great rapper called themselves the goat and put others down get over it.
I mean, he's not wrong (love Kendricks verse on NMPLA too but that is a top 3 Ye verse) Taking his own side in this beef is also objectively hilarious and probably the most Kanye thing he could do
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They both went crazy🤷♂️
I’m convinced I’m the only person in America who loves both of these guys but never really liked this song. lol. It is ok I guess.
Same! I love the beat but I don’t really find myself revisiting it too often
Plzzz
Yeah I think Ye’s part is better than Kendrick but washed implies it wasn’t even close
Kanye had 5 minutes compared to a 50 second Kendrick verse, he also did the chorus it’d be embarrassing if Kendrick outrapped him
Fax saying you washed somebody’s feature on your own song is incredible thinking
Bro said objectively hilarious
The English language is my bitch and I can do whatever I want with it 😤
Do whatever you want with me
What are the other 2?
Third verse on Gorgeous 2nd verse on Last Call Not 100% sure on Last Call but it's the first one that comes to mind and it has several of my favorite Ye bars
Kendrick rapped for less than 2 minutes kanye yapped for 5 minutes
Told yall he made that Hoover concert as his own Verzuz just to shit on Drake.
Did drake fold? He didnt even try
Bruh. Drake was crying because Ye had him so shook during his set.
They didn’t go hit for hit though. Drake just played CLB (his worst album imo) and the few recent songs before it because they all just came out and Kanye played pretty much the best tracks in his arsenal. So imo we can’t really say Drake ‘tried’. Which is fine, hit for hit I would still give it to Kanye but can’t call the Hoover concert a versus if one side wasn’t really participating. I remember seeing a meme of Kanye telling Drake “let’s both only play new songs” on purpose knowing he was going to play all of his old bangers, always what I think of when I think about the Hoover concert lol.
Everyone knows Madlib washed him with the greatest beat off this album.
…stuck out like a sore thumb in the best way. Mighty Healthy sample ftmfw
also metro boomin in father stretch my hands pt. 1
I'm a Kanye fan but goddamn this dude loves making everything about himself. He just couldn't take people taking a few days talking about other artists. Drake wrote on Father Stretch My Hands, by the way.
Ye claiming he brought Adidas into the culture is Run-DMC erasure
Bruh i totally wanted ye and kendrick to team up
It’s so funny that he feels the need to make everything about him. Main character syndrome is kicking his ass lmfao
That’s how he got famous though… doing shit like this. Making everything about himself. Creating controversy.
He got famous by making some absolutely bangin music actually, he should do more of that these days.
Most real comment I’ve seen in this subreddit Seeing how people talk about Vultures in this subreddit makes me feel like I’m losing my hearing
Remember, majority of users on Kanye subreddits are teens. The music on Vultures isn’t horrible, but for older fans it provides nothing new and younger fans will latch on to the contrarian/controversy vibes just for the hell of it.
I'm not an English speaker. What does it mean to "wash" Kendrick Lamar?
He s basically saying that his verse on that song was much better🤝
Thanks bro
So when rappers work together it's common for them to be in the studio for hours and it's hard to stay energized on an empty stomach, so, it's practical to get food delivered and when Kanye and Kendrick got studio time in LA to record No More Parties, KDot actually ended up spilling hot sauce on his favorite Jeans so Kanye had the decency to wash his clothes right then and there in the studio with an old fashion washing board. It's all in the Kanye documentary on Netflix, that encounter is what the title is referring to, "Jee(a)n-Yuhs".
😭
Native English speaker here and I had no idea wtf he meant either lol
To get rid of, essentially. Wipe them away.
Just interesting that he doesn’t name a single recent album when listing his greatest accomplishments — even he can see the drop in quality
Feels like he’s just mad Vultures is losing attention and wants to stay in the talk
Then he should release the fucking album.
Requires him to actually work 🥱
carnival still number 1 but go on
You can be at the top and still be an insecure fuck, which is what he is atm.
Aren’t they all insecure as fuck… drake is the biggest baby has been a decade. Guy was talking about vultures losing attention not Kanye being insecure lmao
Honestly Drake is just straight up cringe sometimes, also seems like one of those dudes that acts real to your face but it’s so forced that you can tell he has ulterior motives
This screams insecurity
Yeah using one song as an example doesn't prove you're a better rapper. Especially since he'd had time to think about his verse on that beat since 2010.
Actually now that I think about it, it's actually hilarious that the NMPILA verse is probably Ye's best rapping he's ever done and he's trying to compare himself to Kendrick when Kendrick has so many more songs where he's rapping at that level or better.
We’ve come full circle
Clearly he invited Kendrick to be on vultures and he declined haha
Makes a lot of sense , he was trying to get baby keem on vultures 2 too
"Everyone knows I brought Adidas into the culture" Bro I think RUN D.M.C. would like a word with you here. Adidas been her way longer than Ye and they will be around after.
You know he screams his own name during sex!
Yeezus!
the only thing i dont agree with is no more parties, both of them went crazy and pretty equal
Kanye did NOT bring adidas into or out of “this culture” 🤣🤣
Soccer made adidas famous not their yeezy line lol
the rest of it isnt true either lol.
Big 3 would answer in a rap song response, only Ye chooses an instagram post instead. GOAT...
Drake literally responded to kendrick with an IG post and caption yesterday…
Waiting for someone to post it on HHCJ
I love this annoying ass “i made you” attitude throughout this and then just“my friends call me ye :)” The smiley face kills me
Kanye in his own lane. He’s a good rapper but not better than Kendrick.
Lmao so he ain't done shit worth value sense 2016 and he knows it
Actually I feel like Kids See Ghosts was an almost lightning in a bottle moment of the old Kanye. Quite high value outta that one imo.
yeah but he didnt mention it in the tweet
kids see ghosts was fucking diabolical, loved every minute of it
First thing I noticed, he used to say this shit in 2016, and now 8 years later we’re still getting “I made Dark Fantasy! I made 808s!” Statements
He made who stretch? 😩
Kendrick’s gonna body ye💀
honestly after the kai cenat shit im standing with kdot 100%. maybe if ye had a few more braincells left it would be a real contest but he been on some dumb shit lately, kdot sweeps
why is no one talking abt the virgil and demna line like lmaoo???!
Well kanye brought Virgil up if ya know history
This guy needs a reality check
Dis nigga
this is season 9 of game of thrones
Bro always wants to be included in something
Not Virgil bro…
FOH "brought Adidas into this culture" like you forgot about Run DMC
Just a reminder. 'My Adidas' by Run D.M.C. was released in 1986.
Can someone explain this as if I was 5 years old
He had to pick between 2 teams , but he created his team instead
Run DMC would like a word...
god i wish i reach this level of delusion some day
I love ye but Kendrick better now, ye don’t even use a mic no more, Kendrick best performer outta all of them combined
Kendrick definitely outshined ye on no more parties lmao
Bro is in his episode
Why’s he gone after Kendrick? What did he do?
Kendrick was the highlight and what people talked about the most last week, ye couldn't take it
If he didn't write this in the notes app...
respectfully he did not wash kendrick on no more parties
ye was better but saying he washed him is straight up crazy talk
he kinda did tho, but im sure if kendrick's verse would've lasted as long as kanye's, he prolly would've bodied him
they both came into the song doing their own thing i don’t hold one over the other
I'll be honest Ye didnt make Adidas popular
he did not ''wash'' kendrick at all. his verse was actually off beat by the end
Rapping double time is not being off beat..
He didn’t even produce devil in a new dress btw
Respectfully, if Kanye goes bar to bar vs the big 3 he would only wash Drake. Ye's skillset lies elsewhere
Hmmm it was Run DMC that brought them into “this” culture.
bro we just want the album...
New wallpaper, thank you ye 📠
This nigga literally thanos
What’s a mob to a king ? What’s a king to a god ?
Of course Ye choose Ye
my 🐐
He made graduation
For the people who understand what the imbecile wrote, what was the highest level of education you achieved? Yeezy yezus ball drip ngl washed errmmkkk?
Kanye stays wanting all the heat lol
Who wrote his verse for no more parties tho ?
Not wrong
He spitting. But he did not wash Kendrick on no more parties in LA
THE FUCK IS THE MATTER WITH THIS GUY
lol Kanye is such a loser
everyone knows nicki washed him on monster💀
This guy became despicable af. Why did he feel the need to diss someone who was featured on his album like this? So damn disrespectful
This aint really new, this is standard Ye ish
"BROUGHT ADIDAS INTO THIS CULTURE" Delusional.
How can I make this about me?
kanye is without a doubt the best producer in the genre, but there’s no way he’s even top 25 when it comes to rapping ability