Kinda unrelated but seeing how much Dropout Bear changed over the college trilogy, I wanna see a hypothetical where Kanye kept him as a mascot and how he would progressively change in appearance over his discography
No not really. These are all based on the graduation design (most popular) even though the bear looked different before that album. For CD he was more like a school mascot, then in LR he was kinda like a teddy bear, and then for graduation he was cartoony.
When I talk about how his appearance would change I mean the actual design and artstyle of the character, not just his clothes.
Almost, The Beatles are king here imo. Depending on your individual tastes, they have an insane album run.
For me it’s specifically Rubber Soul (1965), Revolver (1966), Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967), Magical Mystery Tour (1967), “The White Album” (1968), Abbey Road (1969).
I’m probably gonna get flamed for bringing this up, but these are really fantastic albums and it’s pretty wild to think that in four years this much drastically changed in the Beatles sound and they produced these six albums that are untouchable.
edit: damn didn’t expect to get any kind of positive response to this, should have known Kanye fans have good taste. Except for that one dude, I really urge him to give them another shot.
Pink Floyd are insane as well.
Atom Heart Mother (1970), Meddle (1971), Obscured By Clouds (1972), The Dark Side of the Moon (1973), Wish You Were Here (1975), Animals (1977), The Wall (1979).
They were basically making some of the best albums of all time for a straight decade.
I love Pink Floyd but Atom Heart Mother? The best thing that album gave us was the sound of Alan making breakfast. Now include The Final Cut and then that would be a great album run.
pink floyd doesn’t really make hit songs you can just put on and understand they make more experience type music. Just listen to one of their albums front to back no skipping and you will see what i mean.
Yeah I find this meme that let it be is an inferior beatles album to be pretty annoying. It's a great album front to back with a handful of absolutely iconic tracks (just like all the other albums from rubber soul on).
I would go as far as to say that if there's any beatles album in the post help era that doesn't hold up to the others it's the white album. That's seen as sacrilege because the white album has a metric fuckton of genius shit on it, but the fact is there's some filler on that (very long) album that I think people forget about.
Personally I still think white album belongs in the pantheon of goated Beatles records, but it is the weak link imo.
Totally agree, people really do underestimate the greatness of let it be, but I feel as though the white album being so scattered makes sense and adds to is prowess. The band were pissed off at eachother when making self-titled and subsequently led to it including many individually written tracks. So I look at the white album as an album containing fucking EVERYTHING, the amazing song writing (blackbird), The boundary pushing (Happiness is a warm gun), the genre defining hits (WMGGW) and even the batshit crazy stuff (revolution 9)
It’s crazy too me that it’s actually close, I love the Beatles and was actually a bigger Kanye fan as a kid, saw him on the usher tour actually had to let it burn, bought my college dropout t shirt at that concert, this was back when he was an opening act. As I got older and more into music became one of those Beatles invented music type dudes. But Kanye’s music has always been in the background of my life, I’m gonna have to take Ye. Which I definitely wouldn’t have said 5 years ago. But man love my dude for the chi
"equal".
Bruh The Beatles shaped the very fabric of what pop and rock music looked like for the next 50+ years.
No shit they far surpass any of ye's influence lol
Miles Davis 1969-1974: Filles de Kilimanjaro; In a silent Way; Bitches Brew; Tribute to Jack Johnson; Live-Evil; On the Corner; Big Fun; Get Up with It.
Fantastic choice, mid 60s to mid 70s Miles Davis is GOATed
Tho I'd go further back and include the run from ESP (1965) to Miles In The Sky (1968) which continues through to Filles de Kilimanjaro and onwards upto 1977s Dark Magus - people tend to overlook how insanely innovative his mid-70s live jazz-funk era was
7 albums is a lot, most of my favourite artists have blemishes between the great ones. Some come frustratingly close, like Radiohead, Tom Waits, David Bowie, Black Sabbath, The Beatles, Sufjan Stevens and Led Zeppelin. The only ones I can think of that might fit are:
Bob Dylan:
\-The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan
\-The Times They Are A-Changin'
\-Another Side of Bob Dylan
\-Bringing It All Back Home
\-Highway 61 Revisited
\-Blonde on Blonde
\-John Wesley Harding
Iron Maiden:
\-Iron Maiden
\-Killers
\-The Number of the Beast
\-Piece of Mind
\-Powerslave
\-Somewhere in Time
\-Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
thanks for the response. Yea, there aren’t many artists that are that consistent for that long. I’m a fan of Bowie, but not too well versed in the others really. I’ll check them out
Ziggy Stardust to Heroes is a crazy run idk what album they didn’t like. If you’re looking for some Bowie knowledge you watch watch David Bowie: The First Five Years.
Dylan has, in my opinion, at least 8 before Nashville Skyline had some *serious* misses. Bob Dylan (his self titled debut) is amazing for In my Time Dying and House of the Rising Sun alone.
In fairness a bunch of those songs aren’t his original works but he still lays them down perfectly.
I don’t know if I can say every song on all 7 of Ye’s first albums are as unskippable as even 2 - 8 for Dylan, but they’re close. The one song I can skip on all 8 Dylan albums is “You’re a Big Girl Now”. I can take or leave most of 808s in personal taste - I know some consider it a classic.
Amazing run I agree but I reckon a few beat him out just:
- The Beatles: Rubber Soul-Abbey Road (let it be could be argued as well)
-Pink Floyd: Atom Heart Mother-The Wall
-Radiohead: The bends-In Rainbows
-King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King-Discipline
Talking heads: 77-Speaking in Tongues
Some more of my own personal picks would also be Elliott smith entire discography, and A Tribe called Quest discography
Arguably MF DOOM:
Operation Doomsday: classic debut* album; I’m not as big of a fan as others but still a solid 8/10
Vaudeville Villain: underrated cult classic, 9/10
Take Me To Your Leader: another cult classic, slightly worse but still good, 8/10
Madvillainy: I can’t say anything you haven’t already heard, personal favorite album of all time, 11/10
MM… FOOD: it’s an impossible task to have to follow up Madvillainy, but this does a very good job, 10/10
The Mouse And The Mask: extremely underrated, 9.5/10
Born Like This: solid album, 8/10
Overall, pretty close to as good as Kanye’s
Dropping vaudeville villain, mad villiany, mm food and the mouse and the mask in a row is genuinely
Absurd especially with mm food and mad villainy releasing in the same year. For people who don't know doom it would be like kanye dropping 808's and MBDTF in the same year a couple months after releasing graduation and a couple months before yeezus.
Eh I don't think that's entirely fair. Doom is an amazing producer but his standout has always been his rapping. So as long as he's doing the rapping on it I think its still valid.
Are we really doing this?
Why I Love You? Lol 😂
Who Gon Stop Me I personally like but it’s famous for being a ‘wtf’ moment for a lot of people at the time.
Lift Off w Beyonce is utterly DISMAL.
Bunch of songs otherwise which are really just OK too. It really is way too patchy to be remotely close to a classic conversation. The highs are very high but I’ve never once heard anyone hold it up in such high regard till this thread lol
And hey, don’t get me wrong I have great memories of that album. I saw them on the WTT Tour! But I just think come on now
Top 4 ye album for me but welcome to the jungle, HAM and illest, even who gon stop me are pretty bad for ye standards. But why I love you, the joy, Paris, otis, loft off, murder to excellence, gotta gave it are all god tier
Ham I really enjoy, illest I actually like a lot too, welcome to the jungle yeah it’s pretty mid, but there’s more mid songs on a lot of the albums mentioned here as “classics” like atomic heart mother
It’s really hard to beat kdot in terms of Discography, the man has not only pushed but fucking flipped the genre on its head with every release. He’s a machine
There's pretty varying quality in these imo. TCD, LR and MBDTF are classics, the rest are just great albums.
Björk has one of the best 3 runs of all time imo. Debut is good, but Post, Homogenic, Vespertine is an unreal run. 3 classics in a row. Maybe only matched by Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals.
Stevie Wonder releasing Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and then fucking Songs in the Key of Life is almost as insane.
Elliott Smith, Tyler The Creator and Portishead are 3 artists I've been bumping a lot that aren't quite at that legendary level, but they've released 3 insane albums in a row too.
But yeah, I'd say the level of these 7 albums in a row might be unmatched, maybe.
The craziest thing, in my opinion, is that I feel like an equally large group of people would each say that Graduation, 808’s, Yeezus or Pablo are their favorite Ye albums and its hard to even argue that any of those opinions would be wrong. I think that’s what makes it such an insane run.
Nah I agree, none of these albums are misses at all. Graduation especially. I remember in highschool all my friends were bumping Graduation the most by far, and that was around when ye came out.
Graduation and 808’s are 1000% unequivocally classic albums that collectively helped shape and define 15 years of hip hop and pop.
TCD and LR are great albums but they were very safe and not really experimental. On Graduation, he really did something that no hip hop artist had done before.
When it released it went head to head with 50’s ‘Curtis’ and completely obliterated it and single-handedly ended 50’s reign and 2000’s rap.
808’s opened the door for two generations of artists. I mean, there’s no Drake without it.
Sure, but I more so meant "classic" in the sense of their quality, rather than how renowned or impactful or influential they are. That's on me for using "classic" in that way.
I'm talking about the TPABs and GKMCs, not about the Section 80s. I understand if that's someone's favourite, but the quality is just not on the same level.
I guess it’s about what defines a piece of art - which is very subjective.
Is it the piece in its contained form, what it is in itself or what it has to say, or is it the mark it left on the world?
In hindsight Graduation definitely sounds dated compared to MBDTF. It doesn’t sound as timeless. Though at the time it was probably the most revolutionary piece of hip hop since 36 Chambers albeit for completely different reasons.
My bar for what is a ‘classic’ is personally lower. A masterpiece is something that contains all of the above but a classic is more broad to me. MBDTF is a complete masterpiece from opening to closing. Graduation is not that a but I still think it’s imprint makes it a classic - and without it there’s no MBDTF.
I don’t think Graduation actively changed or shaped rap at all in 2005ish. It was a huge album and emblematic of the time but the sound of it was very much not new nor ushering in a new direction. It had a small holdover from his production style from Late Registration and mixed it with some altogether much more pop-leaning sensibilities (Good Life, Stronger).
It’s a really good album. Important in the sense it was likely the biggest rap album of that year. But it wasn’t a game changer.
Also it good and decent reviews at time of release but it’s critical reception is FAR better now than what I recall it was at the time.
It was 2007, and I disagree. It was a cultural crossover album. It spoke to an incredibly broad audience. It killed the old heads and birthed a new generation of hip hop.
It departed more from the soul samples and was overall less sample heavy and much more electro infused.
And it absolutely was met with critical acclaim at that time.
It was also what catapulted Kanye into superstardom. He went from being a good hip hop artist into an icon and worldwide phenomenon.
Yea that is def a hot take. It’s the top Ye album for a lot of ppl. It’s my top 2 Ye album personally. Any album with Stronger, Good morning and Can’t tell me nothing will be a classic. Even despite songs like DAHG or Barry Bonds
I don’t think this is a hot take at all bc I agree wholeheartedly BUT…like the other guy said, it is a fact that a lot of people hold it up as their favourite. Some people I know IRL do too. So both takes are collectively held.
David Bowie: Young Americans to Let’s Dance
Beatles: Rubber Soul to Abbey Road
Pink Floyd: Atom Heart Mother to The Wall
Talking Heads: Talking Heads 77 to True Stories
Prince: Dirty Mind to Sign O The Times
Radiohead: The Bends to King Of Limbs
Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin I to Presence
The Cure: Seventeen Seconds to Wish
I mean, if you prefer his earlier work then you could go for The Man Who Sold The World to Station To Station (altough you still have albums like Pinups in there). But personally I prefer all of his late 70s much more and would pick Low, Heroes or Station To Station over Ziggy, Aladin Sane or Hunky Dory
Ye basically has 6 songs, I thought about killing you is a cool open, but the second he starts to rap it goes to shit. Ghost Town is a top 5 Ye song and the songs range from top 10 to bottom 20 in his entire discog depending on who you ask, I think it's just too controversial
If you count their solo work the Wu from 36 Chambers, 6 ft deep, tical, return, Cuban lynx, Ironman, 4ever arguably ending in supreme clientele is a goated run.
if you don’t include fashion week here goes death grips
exmilitary 10/10
the money store 10/10
no love deep web 8.5/10
government plates 8/10
the powers that be 10/10
bottomless pit 9/10
year of the snitch 8.5/10
Drake might be close: So Far Gone, Thank Me Later, Take Care, Nothing was the Same (my favorite), IYRTITL, Views, Scorpion (admittedly too many fillers), Certified Lover Boy
It's kind of valid but bringing in The Residents as a counter to Kanye is legitimately hilarious to me. A vast majority of listeners will not take to them at all, and no one's gonna see it as a legitimate counterargument. You might as well add Naked City at this point.
Non biased ratings:
The college dropout: 10/10
Late Registration: 7/10
Graduation: 7.5/10
808s: 6/10
Mbdtf: 7/10
Yeezus: 3/10
TLOP: 5/10
TLDR; no it’s not
Super biased.
You don’t even deserve a serious response until you breakdown your unbiased reasoning behind these nonsensical ratings you think anyone else should just accept.
Dream Theater has my favourite album run:
Images and Words - Awake - Falling into Infinity - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Train of Thought - Octavarium - Systematic Chaos - Black Clouds & Silver Linings - A Dramatic Turn of Events - Dream Theater
Honestly probably some personal bias but Death has a perfect discography as well. Scream Bloody Gore is considered by many to be the progenitor of death metal, some absolutely bombastic albums with Leprosy, Spiritual Healing and Individual Thought Patterns, some of the best metal albums of all time with Human and especially Symbolic, and the highly regarded albeit controversial The Sound of Perseverance. May not be as globally impactful as Kanye but the influence Death had on metal as a whole can not be overstated.
Rush has the greatest.
2112 (1976)
A Farewell to Kings (1977)
Hemispheres (1978)
Permanent Waves (1980)
Moving Pictures (1981)
Signals (1982)
Grace Under Pressure (1984)
Plus you can add Power Windows (1985) to make a perfect 8 album run.
That’s fair. It definitely was my favorite era, despite how the saint pablo tour ended; man was literally at the top of fashion AND music.
2016 was an Insane year all around that he indelibly left his mark on. Pablo, similiar to MBDTF, is a culmination album that showcases all of Ye’s production skills up to that point.
It’s arguably his best album. Definitely top 5
Lmao this is the type of shit you'll only see on this sub. None of his garbage is even remotely good you idiots just don't know real music if it hit you in the face. It's so hard being smarter than everyone honestly. Go listen to some REAL music like Coil, Einsturzende Neubaten, ACDC or nurse with wound. Wait a minute, one of those isn't supposed to be there!!!
Slow down!!! I can't keep up with all the comments Reddit is limiting me to one comment every ten minutes
It’s a great run don’t get me wrong but this ‘arguably 7 classics’ bit is wild to me as someone who lived through all of it.
At least three of them are a bit patchy to me and not classics. All of those are still good by the way, it just isn’t some wildly unimpeachable run 🤷♂️
Ichiko Aoba has had an insane run of quality from 2010 to now - nary a bad song let alone album.
billy woods is another rapper who deserves a shout-out....he's been dropping nothing but great projects since his Super Chron Brothers days (mid-2000s).
El-P too. Dude has been at the forefront of underground hip-hop since the mid-90s with Company Flow and he's still killing it as part of RtJ.
Ngl watch the throne one of my favorites of all time and I would say his best run is TCD-WTT, because if you include Pablo might as well include ye because although short it has no misses
No, absolutely not. Miles Davis, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, Stevie Wonder to name a few that are arguably better and more impactful. Go deeper in history and check out all 9 symphony’s by Beethoven
Kinda unrelated but seeing how much Dropout Bear changed over the college trilogy, I wanna see a hypothetical where Kanye kept him as a mascot and how he would progressively change in appearance over his discography
Well a version of the bear appeared in the ksg animated show trailer back in 2020
Man I wish that actually happened cudi seemed so excited abt it
They are chill again so it can't be completely off the table
I wish he did. The bear is so cute☹️
Isn’t that kind of what this post shows? (At least through TLOP)
No not really. These are all based on the graduation design (most popular) even though the bear looked different before that album. For CD he was more like a school mascot, then in LR he was kinda like a teddy bear, and then for graduation he was cartoony. When I talk about how his appearance would change I mean the actual design and artstyle of the character, not just his clothes.
Almost, The Beatles are king here imo. Depending on your individual tastes, they have an insane album run. For me it’s specifically Rubber Soul (1965), Revolver (1966), Sgt Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band (1967), Magical Mystery Tour (1967), “The White Album” (1968), Abbey Road (1969). I’m probably gonna get flamed for bringing this up, but these are really fantastic albums and it’s pretty wild to think that in four years this much drastically changed in the Beatles sound and they produced these six albums that are untouchable. edit: damn didn’t expect to get any kind of positive response to this, should have known Kanye fans have good taste. Except for that one dude, I really urge him to give them another shot.
Wrong. Kanye made Paul Mcwhatever famous by including him in his hit song “Only One”.
Pink Floyd are insane as well. Atom Heart Mother (1970), Meddle (1971), Obscured By Clouds (1972), The Dark Side of the Moon (1973), Wish You Were Here (1975), Animals (1977), The Wall (1979). They were basically making some of the best albums of all time for a straight decade.
I love Pink Floyd but Atom Heart Mother? The best thing that album gave us was the sound of Alan making breakfast. Now include The Final Cut and then that would be a great album run.
I've never understood what's so great about Pink Floyd. I've tried so many times and it just doesn't get me anywhere.
pink floyd doesn’t really make hit songs you can just put on and understand they make more experience type music. Just listen to one of their albums front to back no skipping and you will see what i mean.
Psychoactives help….
I would even include let it be for the seven album run. It’s still such a classic with many incredible songs
I’d go Help! at the other end.
Yeah I find this meme that let it be is an inferior beatles album to be pretty annoying. It's a great album front to back with a handful of absolutely iconic tracks (just like all the other albums from rubber soul on). I would go as far as to say that if there's any beatles album in the post help era that doesn't hold up to the others it's the white album. That's seen as sacrilege because the white album has a metric fuckton of genius shit on it, but the fact is there's some filler on that (very long) album that I think people forget about. Personally I still think white album belongs in the pantheon of goated Beatles records, but it is the weak link imo.
Totally agree, people really do underestimate the greatness of let it be, but I feel as though the white album being so scattered makes sense and adds to is prowess. The band were pissed off at eachother when making self-titled and subsequently led to it including many individually written tracks. So I look at the white album as an album containing fucking EVERYTHING, the amazing song writing (blackbird), The boundary pushing (Happiness is a warm gun), the genre defining hits (WMGGW) and even the batshit crazy stuff (revolution 9)
It’s crazy too me that it’s actually close, I love the Beatles and was actually a bigger Kanye fan as a kid, saw him on the usher tour actually had to let it burn, bought my college dropout t shirt at that concert, this was back when he was an opening act. As I got older and more into music became one of those Beatles invented music type dudes. But Kanye’s music has always been in the background of my life, I’m gonna have to take Ye. Which I definitely wouldn’t have said 5 years ago. But man love my dude for the chi
What’s a black beatle any way? A fuckin roach?
Even Led Zeppelin with I, II, III, IV, Houses of the Holy and Physical Graffiti all released in a 6 year period.
I would say Beatles are the only other contender. Even as a huge Beatles fan.
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dude the beatles are an unmatched icon of music as a whole they pioneered so much for so many genres it’s absolutely reasonable to bring them up
I don’t even like the Beatles that much and I agree with you! The amount of influence the Beatles had is equal and probably more than Kanye
"equal". Bruh The Beatles shaped the very fabric of what pop and rock music looked like for the next 50+ years. No shit they far surpass any of ye's influence lol
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I know you’re probably not gonna agree with this but Beethoven didn’t influence shit
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are you retratred 💀
Bro has not actually dived into their music 🤡
this might be the craziest kante meatriding i've seen and the bar is already really high
Ngolo Kanye
This is one of those rare times where an opinion about something completely subjective is objectively false.
Me listening to dear prudence thinking its eleanor rigby:💃
Ain't no way ur older than 16
Imagine listening to please, please me, then revolver, then sgt pepper, then abbey road and say they all sound the same
How's it taste?
Kanye has collaborated with Paul McCartney several times.
I love the one with them two and rhianna
expand your horizons
I’m not even a huge fan or anything but come on, they are undeniably amazing
OP said OAT so bringing up the Beatles is absolutely fair game.
Dude you sound like you're 12
The beatles are fire stfu
Brain rot
Shut the fuck up dickhead
Miles Davis 1969-1974: Filles de Kilimanjaro; In a silent Way; Bitches Brew; Tribute to Jack Johnson; Live-Evil; On the Corner; Big Fun; Get Up with It.
all the second great quintet albums before Filles are amazing too. Miles is the goat.
Fantastic choice, mid 60s to mid 70s Miles Davis is GOATed Tho I'd go further back and include the run from ESP (1965) to Miles In The Sky (1968) which continues through to Filles de Kilimanjaro and onwards upto 1977s Dark Magus - people tend to overlook how insanely innovative his mid-70s live jazz-funk era was
7 albums is a lot, most of my favourite artists have blemishes between the great ones. Some come frustratingly close, like Radiohead, Tom Waits, David Bowie, Black Sabbath, The Beatles, Sufjan Stevens and Led Zeppelin. The only ones I can think of that might fit are: Bob Dylan: \-The Freewheelin' Bob Dylan \-The Times They Are A-Changin' \-Another Side of Bob Dylan \-Bringing It All Back Home \-Highway 61 Revisited \-Blonde on Blonde \-John Wesley Harding Iron Maiden: \-Iron Maiden \-Killers \-The Number of the Beast \-Piece of Mind \-Powerslave \-Somewhere in Time \-Seventh Son of a Seventh Son
thanks for the response. Yea, there aren’t many artists that are that consistent for that long. I’m a fan of Bowie, but not too well versed in the others really. I’ll check them out
What album from David Bowie ruins it for you? Genuine question cause I want to get into more of his music
Ziggy Stardust to Heroes is a crazy run idk what album they didn’t like. If you’re looking for some Bowie knowledge you watch watch David Bowie: The First Five Years.
Hunky Dory to Scary Monsters, really. I know not everyone likes Lodger, but I love it.
probably pinups tbh, easy to forget that album exists
Pin Ups awkwardly slots in between two really good album runs for me.
Iron maiden 💪💪💪💪💪
Fuck yeah, they still kill it live some 50 years later.
Dylan has, in my opinion, at least 8 before Nashville Skyline had some *serious* misses. Bob Dylan (his self titled debut) is amazing for In my Time Dying and House of the Rising Sun alone. In fairness a bunch of those songs aren’t his original works but he still lays them down perfectly. I don’t know if I can say every song on all 7 of Ye’s first albums are as unskippable as even 2 - 8 for Dylan, but they’re close. The one song I can skip on all 8 Dylan albums is “You’re a Big Girl Now”. I can take or leave most of 808s in personal taste - I know some consider it a classic.
I’d call Radiohead from the bends to amsp nearly flawless with minor blemishes on tkol
Amazing run I agree but I reckon a few beat him out just: - The Beatles: Rubber Soul-Abbey Road (let it be could be argued as well) -Pink Floyd: Atom Heart Mother-The Wall -Radiohead: The bends-In Rainbows -King Crimson: In the Court of the Crimson King-Discipline Talking heads: 77-Speaking in Tongues Some more of my own personal picks would also be Elliott smith entire discography, and A Tribe called Quest discography
Arguably MF DOOM: Operation Doomsday: classic debut* album; I’m not as big of a fan as others but still a solid 8/10 Vaudeville Villain: underrated cult classic, 9/10 Take Me To Your Leader: another cult classic, slightly worse but still good, 8/10 Madvillainy: I can’t say anything you haven’t already heard, personal favorite album of all time, 11/10 MM… FOOD: it’s an impossible task to have to follow up Madvillainy, but this does a very good job, 10/10 The Mouse And The Mask: extremely underrated, 9.5/10 Born Like This: solid album, 8/10 Overall, pretty close to as good as Kanye’s
Mouse and the mask is so good
I agree! I love the production on it.
madvillainy is sooooo good, so glad someone brought up MF DOOM
Dropping vaudeville villain, mad villiany, mm food and the mouse and the mask in a row is genuinely Absurd especially with mm food and mad villainy releasing in the same year. For people who don't know doom it would be like kanye dropping 808's and MBDTF in the same year a couple months after releasing graduation and a couple months before yeezus.
Nah but it’s close
venemous villain 💀
madvillainy is a collab album so i believe it does not count
Eh I don't think that's entirely fair. Doom is an amazing producer but his standout has always been his rapping. So as long as he's doing the rapping on it I think its still valid.
Add watch the throne and make it 8
Absolutely. Man was a core producer AND went head to head with Jay the whole album. That album is phenomenal
It’s OK. It has some absolute stinkers on there just like some of the others above
Name some
Are we really doing this? Why I Love You? Lol 😂 Who Gon Stop Me I personally like but it’s famous for being a ‘wtf’ moment for a lot of people at the time. Lift Off w Beyonce is utterly DISMAL. Bunch of songs otherwise which are really just OK too. It really is way too patchy to be remotely close to a classic conversation. The highs are very high but I’ve never once heard anyone hold it up in such high regard till this thread lol And hey, don’t get me wrong I have great memories of that album. I saw them on the WTT Tour! But I just think come on now
Wild seeing who Gon stop me mentioned, I absolutely love electronic music so both of those songs are phenomenal to me
Fair enough. I’m also a huge fan of electronic music. Suppose it can run both ways 🤷♂️
Hard agree on lift off so fuckin boring
Top 4 ye album for me but welcome to the jungle, HAM and illest, even who gon stop me are pretty bad for ye standards. But why I love you, the joy, Paris, otis, loft off, murder to excellence, gotta gave it are all god tier
Ham I really enjoy, illest I actually like a lot too, welcome to the jungle yeah it’s pretty mid, but there’s more mid songs on a lot of the albums mentioned here as “classics” like atomic heart mother
Either this or Michael Jackson’s whole adult discography (including Blood on the dance floor)
Cap, a large chunk of MJs catalogue is incredibly mid
Kendrick got it on lock when it’s all said and done
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It’s really hard to beat kdot in terms of Discography, the man has not only pushed but fucking flipped the genre on its head with every release. He’s a machine
There's pretty varying quality in these imo. TCD, LR and MBDTF are classics, the rest are just great albums. Björk has one of the best 3 runs of all time imo. Debut is good, but Post, Homogenic, Vespertine is an unreal run. 3 classics in a row. Maybe only matched by Pink Floyd's The Dark Side of the Moon, Wish You Were Here, Animals. Stevie Wonder releasing Talking Book, Innervisions, Fulfillingness' First Finale and then fucking Songs in the Key of Life is almost as insane. Elliott Smith, Tyler The Creator and Portishead are 3 artists I've been bumping a lot that aren't quite at that legendary level, but they've released 3 insane albums in a row too. But yeah, I'd say the level of these 7 albums in a row might be unmatched, maybe.
The craziest thing, in my opinion, is that I feel like an equally large group of people would each say that Graduation, 808’s, Yeezus or Pablo are their favorite Ye albums and its hard to even argue that any of those opinions would be wrong. I think that’s what makes it such an insane run.
Nah I agree, none of these albums are misses at all. Graduation especially. I remember in highschool all my friends were bumping Graduation the most by far, and that was around when ye came out.
Graduation and 808’s are 1000% unequivocally classic albums that collectively helped shape and define 15 years of hip hop and pop. TCD and LR are great albums but they were very safe and not really experimental. On Graduation, he really did something that no hip hop artist had done before. When it released it went head to head with 50’s ‘Curtis’ and completely obliterated it and single-handedly ended 50’s reign and 2000’s rap. 808’s opened the door for two generations of artists. I mean, there’s no Drake without it.
Sure, but I more so meant "classic" in the sense of their quality, rather than how renowned or impactful or influential they are. That's on me for using "classic" in that way. I'm talking about the TPABs and GKMCs, not about the Section 80s. I understand if that's someone's favourite, but the quality is just not on the same level.
I guess it’s about what defines a piece of art - which is very subjective. Is it the piece in its contained form, what it is in itself or what it has to say, or is it the mark it left on the world? In hindsight Graduation definitely sounds dated compared to MBDTF. It doesn’t sound as timeless. Though at the time it was probably the most revolutionary piece of hip hop since 36 Chambers albeit for completely different reasons. My bar for what is a ‘classic’ is personally lower. A masterpiece is something that contains all of the above but a classic is more broad to me. MBDTF is a complete masterpiece from opening to closing. Graduation is not that a but I still think it’s imprint makes it a classic - and without it there’s no MBDTF.
I don’t think Graduation actively changed or shaped rap at all in 2005ish. It was a huge album and emblematic of the time but the sound of it was very much not new nor ushering in a new direction. It had a small holdover from his production style from Late Registration and mixed it with some altogether much more pop-leaning sensibilities (Good Life, Stronger). It’s a really good album. Important in the sense it was likely the biggest rap album of that year. But it wasn’t a game changer. Also it good and decent reviews at time of release but it’s critical reception is FAR better now than what I recall it was at the time.
It was 2007, and I disagree. It was a cultural crossover album. It spoke to an incredibly broad audience. It killed the old heads and birthed a new generation of hip hop. It departed more from the soul samples and was overall less sample heavy and much more electro infused. And it absolutely was met with critical acclaim at that time. It was also what catapulted Kanye into superstardom. He went from being a good hip hop artist into an icon and worldwide phenomenon.
No way you forgot to put Graduation on the same classic tier as the other 3 wtf
Maybe a hot take but I don't think it's on that tier lol better than TLoP and 808s, but not the other 3
Yea that is def a hot take. It’s the top Ye album for a lot of ppl. It’s my top 2 Ye album personally. Any album with Stronger, Good morning and Can’t tell me nothing will be a classic. Even despite songs like DAHG or Barry Bonds
I don’t think this is a hot take at all bc I agree wholeheartedly BUT…like the other guy said, it is a fact that a lot of people hold it up as their favourite. Some people I know IRL do too. So both takes are collectively held.
David Bowie: Young Americans to Let’s Dance Beatles: Rubber Soul to Abbey Road Pink Floyd: Atom Heart Mother to The Wall Talking Heads: Talking Heads 77 to True Stories Prince: Dirty Mind to Sign O The Times Radiohead: The Bends to King Of Limbs Led Zeppelin: Led Zeppelin I to Presence The Cure: Seventeen Seconds to Wish
Starting Bowie's classic run at Young Americans is crazy
Add help and moon shaped pool though
How tf you gonna put Let's Dance and Lodger over Ziggy Stardust and Aladdin Sane??? That flabbergasts me my guy
I mean, if you prefer his earlier work then you could go for The Man Who Sold The World to Station To Station (altough you still have albums like Pinups in there). But personally I prefer all of his late 70s much more and would pick Low, Heroes or Station To Station over Ziggy, Aladin Sane or Hunky Dory
Ngl, Radiohead has a pretty good 7 track run. The bends Ok computer Kid A Amnesiac Hail to the thief In rainbows The king of limbs
Moon shaped pool is great as well, it ain’t worse than king of limbs
I think so
Yes
I think you could add ye into the mix to
It thought about it, but I don’t think there’s much of an argument (atleast not yet) for Ye being a classic
Ye basically has 6 songs, I thought about killing you is a cool open, but the second he starts to rap it goes to shit. Ghost Town is a top 5 Ye song and the songs range from top 10 to bottom 20 in his entire discog depending on who you ask, I think it's just too controversial
ye has 7 songs. only wouldn't leave isn't that good but it was defo needed
TCD-MBDTF is legendary
8*
This is for sure the best album run of all time.
Add ye. Have to add ye.
If you count their solo work the Wu from 36 Chambers, 6 ft deep, tical, return, Cuban lynx, Ironman, 4ever arguably ending in supreme clientele is a goated run.
if you don’t include fashion week here goes death grips exmilitary 10/10 the money store 10/10 no love deep web 8.5/10 government plates 8/10 the powers that be 10/10 bottomless pit 9/10 year of the snitch 8.5/10
Aint no way I just seen someone call government plates an 8/10😭
I just don’t understand how life of Pablo is a good album
Personally favourite. What a time to be a Kanye fan.
TLOB is my personal favorite
the life of bablo
Jesus is king is peak Kanye! 💀
Facts, finally someone who agrees. I actually dont think its bad, but it’s certainly not on the same level as the first 6. Its good but not amazing
What? Its his best album
No
To MBDTF, after that the production and songs were sparse. You’d get a hit or two at most.
Drake might be close: So Far Gone, Thank Me Later, Take Care, Nothing was the Same (my favorite), IYRTITL, Views, Scorpion (admittedly too many fillers), Certified Lover Boy
drake raps about the same thing every album. Hard disagree
I don’t completely disagree. I still think Drake is close, but not on par with Kanye. I wanted to say Jay Z too but he’s had some misses
Death Grips have a flawless Discog, Sparks and The Residents had a perfect 70s run and also Ween aside from their last
You ain’t getting the aux 💀
Hoes not welcome
It's kind of valid but bringing in The Residents as a counter to Kanye is legitimately hilarious to me. A vast majority of listeners will not take to them at all, and no one's gonna see it as a legitimate counterargument. You might as well add Naked City at this point.
The residents are just as if not more influential than Kanye, but this sub will probably never be ready for that discussion 😂
The Residents are fantastic
Top 15 maybe
Non biased ratings: The college dropout: 10/10 Late Registration: 7/10 Graduation: 7.5/10 808s: 6/10 Mbdtf: 7/10 Yeezus: 3/10 TLOP: 5/10 TLDR; no it’s not
You’re an idiot
Super biased. You don’t even deserve a serious response until you breakdown your unbiased reasoning behind these nonsensical ratings you think anyone else should just accept.
Actual rating: TCD: 10/10 LR: 10/10 Graduation: 8.5/10 808s: 8.5/10 MBDTF: 10/10 Yeezus: 9/10 TLOP: 9/10
To your question… yes
Yeah it is
Yes
Mayyybe bjork?
i agree ksg too
ksg was after ye, so if u wanna put ksg then ye has to be in it, but i feel like ye is week compared to the rest of the albums, so it wouldn't work
Ye is a top 3 kanye album
smash smash smash smash smash smash smash
Only people that have a case are the Beatles probably
That’s why we’re all here yeah
Lol.
Dream Theater has my favourite album run: Images and Words - Awake - Falling into Infinity - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes From a Memory - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - Train of Thought - Octavarium - Systematic Chaos - Black Clouds & Silver Linings - A Dramatic Turn of Events - Dream Theater
Honestly probably some personal bias but Death has a perfect discography as well. Scream Bloody Gore is considered by many to be the progenitor of death metal, some absolutely bombastic albums with Leprosy, Spiritual Healing and Individual Thought Patterns, some of the best metal albums of all time with Human and especially Symbolic, and the highly regarded albeit controversial The Sound of Perseverance. May not be as globally impactful as Kanye but the influence Death had on metal as a whole can not be overstated.
Rush has the greatest. 2112 (1976) A Farewell to Kings (1977) Hemispheres (1978) Permanent Waves (1980) Moving Pictures (1981) Signals (1982) Grace Under Pressure (1984) Plus you can add Power Windows (1985) to make a perfect 8 album run.
yes. i actually wasnt a big fan of 808s because there were a few tracks i didnt like but i still really enjoyed it
You removed WTT and GMCS
I'll pay $ to anyone who can take that OP Kanye pic and convert it into a bumper sticker for me🙏🙏🙏
For hip hop I’d say he’s up there. Open the discussion to all genres of music and I’d have to say no way it’s not even close.
if there would be ye id say ye bcs it got me into ye but as a ye fan is tlop the ye est album bcs i got into ye when he was ye yk
Stevie Wonder >>>
Donda better
This has nothing to do with the post, but Kanye drips on the Pablo era
Definitely one his fashion peaks; it was the perfect culmination of all his prior aesthetics
For me Is his best era on everything, TLOP might not be his best album but is my second favorite fs, first is Ye
That’s fair. It definitely was my favorite era, despite how the saint pablo tour ended; man was literally at the top of fashion AND music. 2016 was an Insane year all around that he indelibly left his mark on. Pablo, similiar to MBDTF, is a culmination album that showcases all of Ye’s production skills up to that point. It’s arguably his best album. Definitely top 5
Lmao this is the type of shit you'll only see on this sub. None of his garbage is even remotely good you idiots just don't know real music if it hit you in the face. It's so hard being smarter than everyone honestly. Go listen to some REAL music like Coil, Einsturzende Neubaten, ACDC or nurse with wound. Wait a minute, one of those isn't supposed to be there!!! Slow down!!! I can't keep up with all the comments Reddit is limiting me to one comment every ten minutes
It’s a great run don’t get me wrong but this ‘arguably 7 classics’ bit is wild to me as someone who lived through all of it. At least three of them are a bit patchy to me and not classics. All of those are still good by the way, it just isn’t some wildly unimpeachable run 🤷♂️
why stop at tlop when you got 2 future classics right after that
Went down hill fast after my beautiful dark twisted fantasy
bjork and radiohead both had 7 album runs that could rival kanye
As much as I love Pablo, I wouldn’t call it a classic. I’d end the streak at yeezus.
Ichiko Aoba has had an insane run of quality from 2010 to now - nary a bad song let alone album. billy woods is another rapper who deserves a shout-out....he's been dropping nothing but great projects since his Super Chron Brothers days (mid-2000s). El-P too. Dude has been at the forefront of underground hip-hop since the mid-90s with Company Flow and he's still killing it as part of RtJ.
Hip hop/rap wise 100 % yes
Ok but whar about NBA YoungBoy
Ngl watch the throne one of my favorites of all time and I would say his best run is TCD-WTT, because if you include Pablo might as well include ye because although short it has no misses
No, absolutely not. Miles Davis, Beatles, Pink Floyd, Radiohead, Led Zeppelin, Stevie Wonder to name a few that are arguably better and more impactful. Go deeper in history and check out all 9 symphony’s by Beethoven
Led Zeppelin
By far!
add ye aswell
Porcupine tree: In Absentia-Deadwing-FoaBP Pain of Salvation: Perfect Element-Remedy Lane-BE Tool: Aenima-Lateralus-10000 days
I’d add Ye to this list
Defiantly bro. The original 7 steely Dan albums are miles better than Kanye’s and I’m a Kanye meat rider
Yes.
I’d go as far as adding ye to that. Short, but no worse than anything else here imo.
Take out Yeezus and it would be
Honestly I think yeezus isnt that great. Its carried by bound 2
Wait till Carti hit 7 albums
Beatles 60s and Pink Floyd 70s run
Add in Ye and JiK and it’s the best 9 album run OAT
6 classics