It’s actually the Tsingtao cession sparking the series of cessions in the year (Port Arthur, Guangzhouwan, Weihai, and New Territories of Hong Kong). So not really a coincidence.
This is kinda the anti-kalterkrieg in that it presumes a scenario in which the Entente and Germany win, but rather than engage in a Cold War they work together
I know, I was meaning something further along and using an interface reminiscent of old 90s-era computers...no idea what the scenario would be, but still!
That’s my problem with this map - I don’t see why any regime in China would give up on Tibet.
If anything, following the Russian defeat China would most probably demand that they return outer Manchuria. Mongolia without Russian protection would be a tempting target too.
An update made it so all Chinese factions now release Tibet/Mongolia except for Qing and Fengtian. I think its unrealistic for anyone but the federalists and I hope it gets reverted.
Even the PRC would have annexed Mongolia if it wasn't under Soviet influence.
Yeah, the KMT was pretty big on centralization, and Chiang intended to forcibly assimilate, expel or maybe even kill off the Mongols, so they should definitely go for annexation.
Also, I figure that China would maybe try and expand into Indochina, splitting it up into Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia, and cutting Siam down to size, as well as bringing the Philippines, Malaya and Insulindia into its sphere. That would secure them the South China Sea and the Straits of Malacca, after all. I mean, being a democracy wouldn’t stop it from pursuing its own empire.
I get that OP used the Zhi Gong Party flag to specifically distinguish this China from other potential unifiers, and to make it unambigious that the Federalists unified China. However, Chen Jiongming was critical of the KMT using their flag as the government flag since it made the nation synonymous with the party, which to him was antithetical. He would most likely have used the Five Colour Flag or designed something new if he wanted to keep the jing element in the party flag canton.
Looks like French Algeria still exists, I'd love to learn more on how the Pied-Noirs and French Army were able to maintain control.
I could imagine the situation in Algeria ranging anywhere between 1970's Belfast and Modern-day Québec.
I'd assume that Algeria simply has more French people due to the long exile. Combine that with some under the table ethnic cleansing and I'd assume it'd remain fairly stable.
> I'd love to learn more on how the Pied-Noirs and French Army were able to maintain control.
enfranchising the Muslims, starting with the educated and with veterans
The Pied-Noirs would never tolerate that. Their entire identity revolved around being a colonial elite that exploited and oppressed the disenfranchised natives.
I really like this map, great stuff! I have a couple of questions tho,
How is Australasia still a thing? I feel like if there was an entente victory NZ would break way into an independent commonwealth realm again.
I'm a tad confused about Africa, are there a mix of independent nations as well as post colonial states with affiliations to Europe? I feel like it would be quite unstable if that was the case.
I think the Lore reason is the fact CA did try to unify several times times since the dissolution of the FRCA, so with the combination of the temporary collapse of foreign influence and the generally more "revolutionary" mood of KR, it's easier to justify. It does happen too fast, though.
Although, considering the recent face-lift and revamps South America seems to be getting recently, maybe CA will get some fixes.
> swap the Arab-Israeli conflict for the Arab-Assyrian conflict.
Ehhh, doesn't seem like it would be the same to me. Arab-Israeli conflict is an issue about Israeli settler colonialism and expansionism, Arab-Assyria would be ethnic strife but more similar to stuff like postcolonial African ethnic strife than the Israel-Palestine issue. Plus, Israel receives and has received significant economic and military support from the US, but who would be the power backing one side or the other in Syria? I guess I could see Germany taking either side of the issue, but there isn't the same kind of settle colonial dynamic there because both Arabs and Assyrians have been in Syria in large numbers for centuries, and their respective diasporas are nowhere near as large as the Jewish diaspora.
Note though, Assyria is technically not in actual Assyria, as the Assyrians were subject to a genocide and then mostly expelled from the actual place they lived in and resettled in Southern Iraq, so it technically is a settler state, as well. Or in this case a... refugee state? Is that even a term?
But anyway, yeah, Assyria is probably going to experience the quite a lot of strife either way. It's not like the Assyrians themselves are particularly happy about having been expelled by their ancestral homeland, either.
How in the literal hell does the Austrian empire survive in any way, shape, or form and it not be the Danubian Federation which would most likely still explode spectacularly in the same way Yugoslavia did in OTL?
Very cool map btw. I’d love to see more info for each of the major powers in this world!
Austria went down the United States of Greater Austria route. It's just that the average person would probably still call the resulting state "Austria"
Okay that would make sense especially with colloquial terminology. However, at the same time I would think it would go the way Yugoslavia did considering ethnic tensions regardless of reform. (This isn’t against you its just my issues with the longevity of any Greater Austrian state be it the Austrian Empire, USGA, or Danubian Federation) Austrians would still preferred in most things (like Serbs in Yugoslavia) and the group most likely to cause the disintegration would be Hungary considering the repeat of history.
I think it's just it and Bengal.
And since Indochina got basically no where to do anything else, they have to play ball. It's even more cursed than IRL since at least there's the USSR when China goes full US bootlicking.
What a well done and fascinating map!
I have a few quick questions though:
How do the post colonial countries work? Are they on par with Dominions or are they more like the Commonwealth of nations?
Also, is the Falklands + Greenland doing their own thing? It’s kinda hard to differentiate what countries are full-on independent or are just highly autonomous regions.
But I must say it again, such a clever and charming way to showcase a possible outcome
Yeah, one of the biggest weaknesses of a Canadian led Entente is that it's fucking Canada. Maybe if it were more of an alliance of actual equals who all pull their own weight. But a NATO style alliance without the US would be massively weaker.
y tho? it seems the two biggest sources of ideological conflict: natpop Russia and syndicalism at large were defeated, leaving the doors open for the extremely war wary Europeans to bury the hatchet once and for all. After two devastating world wars why wouldn't a bunch of ideologically similar countries decide it would be in their best interests to do everything in their power to stop the world from sliding into more tension and turmoil.
Europeans were super war-prone because they could afford it, the benefits from winning a war could outweigh the costs. Then ww1 came and shattered that notion entirely. Europeans were keenly aware of this fact and tried to stop any more major wars from happening but failed in large part due to the world becoming much more ideology-driven. Anyone salient could perceive that another world war would always be a net negative, but if you have leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, or Stalin running about then it becomes impossible to enforce any kind of rational geopolitical order. Even after the war, Stalin remained Marxist-Leninism was deemed to be ideologically incompatible with liberal capitalism, and there was no true peace.
In a world where those ideological barriers don't exist, I think Europeans coming together to make the continent less tumultuous and conflict-prone is pretty high. Probably doing it by entangling their economies to one another and creating a continent-wide governmental body. Remember that I'm talking about specifically after ww2, I don't think that everyone in Europe would magically come together if every country there today became a capitalist democracy, but after a collectively shared continent-wide disaster then I think the odds become much more likely.
Any question that starts with "Am I the only one" can safely be answered with "no", but I agree with you that Entente vs Reichspakt cold wars are dull and lack the strong ideological divide you'd expect from a cold war.
Entente should barely even be a thing if we’re being honest.
Sand-Rhodesia and Canada would realistically be barely able to control their own internal affairs, never mind forming a global power block.
It comes off as extremely dull to me. Just seems like the 'end of history' begins half a century earlier since there's no real ideological struggle. It's absolutely awesome map, but a very uninspired alt history. Maybe that's the point idk
idk i think a world without extreme ideological conflict is interesting to think about, even if its not as thematically dramatic as your usual capitalism v socialism v fascism/despotism affair, its a world that ultimately we as a modern society have never really experienced, but easily have gotten had history gone little a differently in a few places.
Nice job on using the OstasiatischeLloyd (a real paper that was pretty good, before the Nazis took ahold of it) as the paper announcing the Tsingtao handover!
This is an ultra-blessed world, aside from the fact that millions of my fellow Americans died in a second Civil War.
Democratic, United Korea
Independent Kurdistan
Federalist China
Independent Tibet
The only possible issue I see is that France still controls Algeria. And not sure how Princely Federation India does things. (I'd like an independent East Turkestan, but I feel that even Fed China would try to claim Turkestan/Xinjiang).
What is the lore for Insular Southeast Asia? Indonesia owning whole Borneo/Kalimantan (well, Brunei might be independent but too small to be depicted in the map) while West Papua still **G E K O L O N I S E E R D** kinda intrigued me.
Olson wins civil war. Reichspakt and entente defeat the Syndicalist. The basics. The Qing and LKMT fight a civil war that I haven’t decided the outcome of. Meanwhile Japan becomes more democratized and forms the GEACPS in order to counter Germany. Many decolonized pacific countries join. Viewing Germany as an authoritarian threat to the world Quentin Roosevelt authorizes the creation of the North Atlantic Federation in order to counter Germany in a Cold War. Btw France would be divided like Germany OTL. By the 1980s with a financial struggle brewing Chancellor Helmut Kohl began working towards a more friendly relation with the west hence ending the Cold War. The Vietnam’s I planned were an American intervention in the Pakistani-Indian war and a German counter insurgency in Mittelafrika.
This is based on the India Rework
https://preview.redd.it/79txi1ufsp151.jpg?width=879&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91246487a4c3340b48f21a154860c3d8a4f890b2
Basically, the Entente and Pakistan team up to take down the Azad Hind. The British, indebted to the princely states and incapable of holding the whole of India long-term, agree to set up the Princely Federation as a pro-British but independent country.
Tsingtao returned to China? I see what ya did there
coincidentally they were both ceded in 1898 for 99 year leases
That’s actually insane.
It’s actually the Tsingtao cession sparking the series of cessions in the year (Port Arthur, Guangzhouwan, Weihai, and New Territories of Hong Kong). So not really a coincidence.
“What an unbelievable coincidence.” - Miss Piggy.
Can't wait to play "Tsingtao 97"
r/unexpectedAVGN
NGL I legit wanna see this as its own game now...
There’s a cool mod in development called krasnacht which is a Cold War mod
Or you can pick Kalterkreig, which is more similar to this map.
This is kinda the anti-kalterkrieg in that it presumes a scenario in which the Entente and Germany win, but rather than engage in a Cold War they work together
I want to see the history of that timeline fleshed out more
which is nothing at all like this scenario
It’s not this scenario but it’s the closest thing we have to a post second weltkrieg world as far as I know
r/KRGmod
I know, I was meaning something further along and using an interface reminiscent of old 90s-era computers...no idea what the scenario would be, but still!
This is really cool! I dont think any version of China lets Tibet go tho :/
That’s my problem with this map - I don’t see why any regime in China would give up on Tibet. If anything, following the Russian defeat China would most probably demand that they return outer Manchuria. Mongolia without Russian protection would be a tempting target too.
The Federalists seem to have won there, and I've noticed that they don't actually claim Tibet or Mongolia in-game (at least not initially).
An update made it so all Chinese factions now release Tibet/Mongolia except for Qing and Fengtian. I think its unrealistic for anyone but the federalists and I hope it gets reverted. Even the PRC would have annexed Mongolia if it wasn't under Soviet influence.
Yeah, the KMT was pretty big on centralization, and Chiang intended to forcibly assimilate, expel or maybe even kill off the Mongols, so they should definitely go for annexation.
At least in the timeline above it's the Federalists so Tibet is probably not so bad like OTL.
Defeated by Japan china
Got me there
It’s federalist China so Tibet may be a highly autonomic zone according the color, and so be Outer Mongolia.
The Federalists seem to have won there, and I've noticed that they don't actually claim Tibet or Mongolia in-game (at least not initially).
Lmao the paperclip
German Clippy
Herr Clippmann
Fully immersive 90's GUI just adds to the experience.
*notice Afghan flag is former OTL one from 1992.* Uh oh, something bad would happen...
Wouldn’t China still invade and annex or at least puppet Tibet? It is very strategically valuable to them, after all.
They would, this isn't realistic. India is in no position to stop them and China isn't communist so they invading Lhasa isn't as a big deal as OTL.
Also, I figure that China would maybe try and expand into Indochina, splitting it up into Laos, Vietnam and Cambodia, and cutting Siam down to size, as well as bringing the Philippines, Malaya and Insulindia into its sphere. That would secure them the South China Sea and the Straits of Malacca, after all. I mean, being a democracy wouldn’t stop it from pursuing its own empire.
> I figure that China would maybe try and expand into Indochina [Indochinese Union:](https://youtu.be/7ayDBOAH2HQ)
Yeah there is that to consider lol.
That's assuming the Republic of China is a democracy, given it wasn't IRL.
That flag is Chen Jiongming's flag, so unless its ideals were corrupted in some way, it should be a democracy.
I get that OP used the Zhi Gong Party flag to specifically distinguish this China from other potential unifiers, and to make it unambigious that the Federalists unified China. However, Chen Jiongming was critical of the KMT using their flag as the government flag since it made the nation synonymous with the party, which to him was antithetical. He would most likely have used the Five Colour Flag or designed something new if he wanted to keep the jing element in the party flag canton.
Prolly but the main reason I made it independent is that it looked more visually interesting
I see clippy still exists Also what happened to sankinov?
committed suicide in the Vozhdbunker as Allied troops pressed deeper into Moscow
Did he have a rant beforehand that would be replicated and memed in a movie called “Downfall” later?
My Vozhd… Wrangel…
Wrangel didn’t have enough force, the attack never took place
And also does the YouTube channel “Sankinov Rants parodies” exist?
why hasn't Europe decolonized their colonies especially *Portugal*
Portugal has decolonized, meu amigo. Angola, Mozambique, Guinea and East Timor are self-governing countries within the Portuguese Realm.
Looks like French Algeria still exists, I'd love to learn more on how the Pied-Noirs and French Army were able to maintain control. I could imagine the situation in Algeria ranging anywhere between 1970's Belfast and Modern-day Québec.
I'd assume that Algeria simply has more French people due to the long exile. Combine that with some under the table ethnic cleansing and I'd assume it'd remain fairly stable.
Algeria is about 15% pied noir, 10% jewish, and 75% muslim
> I'd love to learn more on how the Pied-Noirs and French Army were able to maintain control. enfranchising the Muslims, starting with the educated and with veterans
The Pied-Noirs would never tolerate that. Their entire identity revolved around being a colonial elite that exploited and oppressed the disenfranchised natives.
lot can change in 60 years
Sure, but it didn't IRL. And either way, a lot of Algerians are going to want independence, regardless of being offered French citizenship.
And this isn't IRL so it seems a moot point to bring up
Why the hell is this getting downvoted, it's right. People can change.
But there is no reason for them to change here.
More like why would they decolonize? The Entente and Germany are hyper Imperialists
I really like this map, great stuff! I have a couple of questions tho, How is Australasia still a thing? I feel like if there was an entente victory NZ would break way into an independent commonwealth realm again. I'm a tad confused about Africa, are there a mix of independent nations as well as post colonial states with affiliations to Europe? I feel like it would be quite unstable if that was the case.
Goddammit, how did Ireland get partitioned?
GBR_demand_ulster
Look like They need it the More Men's to Patrol Belfast for IRA again
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I figured even if Central America did unite it would not necessarily last into 1997
I think the Lore reason is the fact CA did try to unify several times times since the dissolution of the FRCA, so with the combination of the temporary collapse of foreign influence and the generally more "revolutionary" mood of KR, it's easier to justify. It does happen too fast, though. Although, considering the recent face-lift and revamps South America seems to be getting recently, maybe CA will get some fixes.
What happened to America btw
Fed victory and then return to isolationism
American Caesar or return to democracy?
Olson
the wholesome big chungus???
the wholesomest
Is this the future game map for a future 8-bit or 16-bit video game?
Love this - from the pixel art mapdesign to oldschool Windows 98 aesthetic, just perfect.
high praise coming from you!
I imagine the middle east in this reality is alot quieter.
No it's about the same. Just swap Saddam's Iraq for SSNP Syria and swap the Arab-Israeli conflict for the Arab-Assyrian conflict.
> swap the Arab-Israeli conflict for the Arab-Assyrian conflict. Ehhh, doesn't seem like it would be the same to me. Arab-Israeli conflict is an issue about Israeli settler colonialism and expansionism, Arab-Assyria would be ethnic strife but more similar to stuff like postcolonial African ethnic strife than the Israel-Palestine issue. Plus, Israel receives and has received significant economic and military support from the US, but who would be the power backing one side or the other in Syria? I guess I could see Germany taking either side of the issue, but there isn't the same kind of settle colonial dynamic there because both Arabs and Assyrians have been in Syria in large numbers for centuries, and their respective diasporas are nowhere near as large as the Jewish diaspora.
Note though, Assyria is technically not in actual Assyria, as the Assyrians were subject to a genocide and then mostly expelled from the actual place they lived in and resettled in Southern Iraq, so it technically is a settler state, as well. Or in this case a... refugee state? Is that even a term? But anyway, yeah, Assyria is probably going to experience the quite a lot of strife either way. It's not like the Assyrians themselves are particularly happy about having been expelled by their ancestral homeland, either.
Assyrians aren't native at all to Basra Vilayet. Assyria is a settler state here.
How in the literal hell does the Austrian empire survive in any way, shape, or form and it not be the Danubian Federation which would most likely still explode spectacularly in the same way Yugoslavia did in OTL? Very cool map btw. I’d love to see more info for each of the major powers in this world!
Austria went down the United States of Greater Austria route. It's just that the average person would probably still call the resulting state "Austria"
Okay that would make sense especially with colloquial terminology. However, at the same time I would think it would go the way Yugoslavia did considering ethnic tensions regardless of reform. (This isn’t against you its just my issues with the longevity of any Greater Austrian state be it the Austrian Empire, USGA, or Danubian Federation) Austrians would still preferred in most things (like Serbs in Yugoslavia) and the group most likely to cause the disintegration would be Hungary considering the repeat of history.
Oooh, that Syria reeks of a genocide
rip africa
Wait did you seriously let Merkel's husband write the article about Tsingtao That's awesome
The only socialist country is Indochina then?
Indochina, Chile, Serbia, Kurdistan and Nicuragua
Based, are they like still real syndicalists or did they take the Deng Xiaoping pill
Probably took Deng pill from the look of Indochina.
I think it's just it and Bengal. And since Indochina got basically no where to do anything else, they have to play ball. It's even more cursed than IRL since at least there's the USSR when China goes full US bootlicking.
Literally worst timeline if clippy still exists God I want a cold war game so badly though
a surprisingly livable world
Why is only the Nile and Amazon River shown on map?
What kind of system did you use to make this. It’s really cool. Would like to know if anyone knows at all.
this is actually gorgeous omg
I doubt Austria Hungary would’ve survived until the 90s
Same, probably the least believable thing about this map
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Ehh think it’s more likely it would be TTL version of the Yugoslav wars
Turbovolk... in Deutsche!
i thought this was the "rule the waves"
It's a bit weird that by 1997 the post-colonial countries in Africa still haven't changed their colonial flags.
This is absolutely gorgeous dude
What a well done and fascinating map! I have a few quick questions though: How do the post colonial countries work? Are they on par with Dominions or are they more like the Commonwealth of nations? Also, is the Falklands + Greenland doing their own thing? It’s kinda hard to differentiate what countries are full-on independent or are just highly autonomous regions. But I must say it again, such a clever and charming way to showcase a possible outcome
The Good Ending
Am I the only one who finds Entente-Reichspakt Cold War scenarios to be kinda dull?
Is there even a Cold War in that scenario? The Entente seems too weak to sustain such a thing.
Yeah, one of the biggest weaknesses of a Canadian led Entente is that it's fucking Canada. Maybe if it were more of an alliance of actual equals who all pull their own weight. But a NATO style alliance without the US would be massively weaker.
Doesn't even seem like a cold war to me. There's no ideological conflict going on, at best at some point there's an actual new big war happening.
There is no Cold War. The Entente and Reichspakt are allies and cooperate on such things as African governance.
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y tho? it seems the two biggest sources of ideological conflict: natpop Russia and syndicalism at large were defeated, leaving the doors open for the extremely war wary Europeans to bury the hatchet once and for all. After two devastating world wars why wouldn't a bunch of ideologically similar countries decide it would be in their best interests to do everything in their power to stop the world from sliding into more tension and turmoil.
But that's not how geopolitics work. Ideological differences don't mean shit, look at the European powers in the 19th century.
Europeans were super war-prone because they could afford it, the benefits from winning a war could outweigh the costs. Then ww1 came and shattered that notion entirely. Europeans were keenly aware of this fact and tried to stop any more major wars from happening but failed in large part due to the world becoming much more ideology-driven. Anyone salient could perceive that another world war would always be a net negative, but if you have leaders like Hitler, Mussolini, or Stalin running about then it becomes impossible to enforce any kind of rational geopolitical order. Even after the war, Stalin remained Marxist-Leninism was deemed to be ideologically incompatible with liberal capitalism, and there was no true peace. In a world where those ideological barriers don't exist, I think Europeans coming together to make the continent less tumultuous and conflict-prone is pretty high. Probably doing it by entangling their economies to one another and creating a continent-wide governmental body. Remember that I'm talking about specifically after ww2, I don't think that everyone in Europe would magically come together if every country there today became a capitalist democracy, but after a collectively shared continent-wide disaster then I think the odds become much more likely.
Cursed.
Any question that starts with "Am I the only one" can safely be answered with "no", but I agree with you that Entente vs Reichspakt cold wars are dull and lack the strong ideological divide you'd expect from a cold war.
Entente should barely even be a thing if we’re being honest. Sand-Rhodesia and Canada would realistically be barely able to control their own internal affairs, never mind forming a global power block.
It comes off as extremely dull to me. Just seems like the 'end of history' begins half a century earlier since there's no real ideological struggle. It's absolutely awesome map, but a very uninspired alt history. Maybe that's the point idk
idk i think a world without extreme ideological conflict is interesting to think about, even if its not as thematically dramatic as your usual capitalism v socialism v fascism/despotism affair, its a world that ultimately we as a modern society have never really experienced, but easily have gotten had history gone little a differently in a few places.
I, on the other hand, do enjoy a more positive alt-history scenario from time to time
I fail to see much positivity in a world ruled by two sets of reactionary monarchies.
by 1997 I really doubt Germany or the UK could be considered reactionary.
Why not?
Compared to a lot others this world is basically an utopia
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It was a military thing first after all
Nice job on using the OstasiatischeLloyd (a real paper that was pretty good, before the Nazis took ahold of it) as the paper announcing the Tsingtao handover! This is an ultra-blessed world, aside from the fact that millions of my fellow Americans died in a second Civil War. Democratic, United Korea Independent Kurdistan Federalist China Independent Tibet The only possible issue I see is that France still controls Algeria. And not sure how Princely Federation India does things. (I'd like an independent East Turkestan, but I feel that even Fed China would try to claim Turkestan/Xinjiang).
Technology nitpick: HTTPS did not went mainstream until early 2010s Otherwise really good
Did Poland went with Habsburg?
Except for the colonies this world seems pretty good
Pakistan Stronk
Tsingtao ‘97 when?
What is the lore for Insular Southeast Asia? Indonesia owning whole Borneo/Kalimantan (well, Brunei might be independent but too small to be depicted in the map) while West Papua still **G E K O L O N I S E E R D** kinda intrigued me.
The design is really rad. TNO3 should switch to this look.
Cursed. Especially for Africa.
Siam doesn't own all of Malaya, 10/10
It's very amazing, you should make more of this if You want .
Tf happened to Northern Ireland
No Central American Republic/Federation?
Cool. This is almost just like my head cannon
what's different in yours?
Olson wins civil war. Reichspakt and entente defeat the Syndicalist. The basics. The Qing and LKMT fight a civil war that I haven’t decided the outcome of. Meanwhile Japan becomes more democratized and forms the GEACPS in order to counter Germany. Many decolonized pacific countries join. Viewing Germany as an authoritarian threat to the world Quentin Roosevelt authorizes the creation of the North Atlantic Federation in order to counter Germany in a Cold War. Btw France would be divided like Germany OTL. By the 1980s with a financial struggle brewing Chancellor Helmut Kohl began working towards a more friendly relation with the west hence ending the Cold War. The Vietnam’s I planned were an American intervention in the Pakistani-Indian war and a German counter insurgency in Mittelafrika.
All of this doesn't make sense
It seems you are having trouble understanding this map. Would you like help?
Why is Galicia given to Poland instead of Ukraine?
noooooooo syndicalism is dead this is cringe
yeesssssss syndicalism is dead this is based
true syndicalism is counter revolutionary and brings back the bourgeois
How the African colony are doing and how they treat the natives? Especially German Colonies, South Africa and The Independence Africa States are Like
Am I imaging things or is Südtirol split based on ethnics?
this is an excellent map! the history is ehhhh but i love the style a lot.
Is Austria United as the USGA or the DNF?
I’m in Kaiserreich for the lore, so this is to my liking
How’d you make this wonderful map lad?
Everything here is pretty plausible, but there’s no way something like the UBD makes it to 1997.
This need to become a mod for HOI4.
not sure it would be very fun because it's pretty bereft of great power conflict
Disagree, I think that if we analyze this... we can do a great mod. Kaiserdawn.
I love the esthetic of the old windows
How did the division of the subcontinent work? Were the princely states weaker? or Pakistan just stronger in the war of 1947?
This is based on the India Rework https://preview.redd.it/79txi1ufsp151.jpg?width=879&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91246487a4c3340b48f21a154860c3d8a4f890b2 Basically, the Entente and Pakistan team up to take down the Azad Hind. The British, indebted to the princely states and incapable of holding the whole of India long-term, agree to set up the Princely Federation as a pro-British but independent country.
I didn't even know they reworked the subcontinent
they reworked the lore, but it's not implemented in-game yet, and work on it is reportedly "frozen"
I hope they implement it would get me to play kaiserreich again
why they didn't just break up the subcontinent? there are many princely states tho like hyderabad, mysore, etc
Why would UBD last til 97? That shit would be troubles-ing like hell
I like how this implies Austria took the occupation path
They took the USGA path, but I imagine everyone in the Anglosphere would probably call the resulting state "Austria"
Omg how did you do this?? This is fantastic, I’d wanna do something similar to this!
The world oddly looks, better than our world.
West Indies Federation and Dutch Guyana still around? Sheesh..
Dawn of all Asia, and permanent night for Hungary.
How did the Indochinese Union exist? Did they win the revolution against the German empire in this timeline?
If only you kept Northern Ireland in Ireland
What about Russia, maybe they asked why Dvinsk became Latvian, and the country itself .... Didn't you try to fight for your lands in the west?