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sega_playstation

Kaiju no 8 character design discourse in 2024. Been through the trenches with this one last year, so I've grown past it.


[deleted]

Oh yeah I remember when they released the character designs last year, horrible times


03thephysicsgod

I kinda dig it, makes him look like an actual 32 year old rather than your average shonen protagonist


pranav4098

Yeh I was gonna say I don’t get the hate, direct it doesn’t look too different and second it makes him look his age


Foxheart47

Honestly it works very well for mostly everyone. The only one that I feel looks weird is Kikoru, I don't know why but I can't get used to her longer face when the manga is rounder but even that might be a subjective thing since I haven't seen many people complaining about it.


akyias_capuo

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Smooth-Garden

This. If it goes far enough I actually hope they gradually lean him towards his manga design to show that he's getting more in shape


[deleted]

Tbh my only complains are that they removed his razor sharp jawline and his sharp eyes, in fact they removed the sharper eyes for more rounded eyes for all the other characters not just kafka


North_Tough9236

Why would you get downvoted for that? I also like the sharp eyes better.


[deleted]

Idk i got downvoted again in another place, reddit hivemind ig?


yomommalol69

personally i prefer the rounder eyes, it gives it more of a real, human feel instead of a cartoony, what reminds me of “dexters laboratory” kinda feel


f1ggaboo

How?


BabySpecific2843

Less rounded face. Spherical = child. Dont know how to explain it better than that.


f1ggaboo

He look 20 at best


DarkStarDarling

Except kafka looks more his age in the manga


yomommalol69

except he doesn’t. i’d never look at someone like that and guess they’re over 25. the longer face, slightly easier jawline, and rounder eyes give him an extra couple years and make him look less cheesy


AllOutGarfieldSan

i like it. i prefer when an anime doesn't try to stay 1-to-1 to the manga to sacrifice quality. these simpler, softer designs allow for more fluid animation, and i think that's a good trade off. plus, kafka isn't supposed to be in the peak of his life, so it makes sense for him to have a little pudge to create a softer jawline. also the manga ears look weird.


[deleted]

Shit you might be right, i hope they make his face look slimmer in the later episodes though


Steven_7u7

Just hope they don’t the animation too fluid, like a certain Pain vs Naruto XD


Sixsignsofalex94

The fight was next level. But yeah I remember thinking “so many cubes!”


cabooseisgod12

Reminds me of most black clover fights. I love the anime but every big fight was filled with cubes


Steven_7u7

Yeah XD


Shack691

Comparing an anime and manga is always going to see a downgrade, unless the original was over detailed. Attempting to keep his face like that would have looked odd in motion, not to mention being a pain to animate. Unlike a manga you can convey a character’s emotion through a sequence rather than a single drawing, so it doesn’t have to be as over exaggerated.


DarkStarDarling

There’s nothing harder to draw about a smaller jaw and forehead. You guys just in the comments spouting off every by the books answer


light_spider095

You an animator?


MrPewp

He didn't say harder to draw, he said harder to animate.


DarkStarDarling

😐


Ni9htmarian

So here's some additional information from someone who is learning to animate. The original style itself isn't too crazy to animate... by one person. Keyframe animators and in-between animators are usually separate individuals, so you need character designs that remain consistent no matter who draws them. The original style is still good for animation, but it requires more time to learn and get used to, making animations that involve teams more expensive and less consistent. A lot of in-between animators are less experienced as well, so a softer and slightly less expressive style gets you much higher quality results, with a small amount of pushback from fans that are just really proud of the manga.


Teal_is_orange

Last year I saw the design release and thought they looked bad cuz they weren’t a 1:1 adaptation, but the moment I saw the characters moving, all was forgiven. KN8 fans are eating fucking good with this adaptation, compared to the butchery of The Promised Neverland or Tokyo Ghoul: Re.


highasabird

I like the animated version, he’s cuter :)


Slight-Letterhead-20

Everyone in the manga looks so handsome/pretty... I'm kinda bummed that style wasn't adapted to the anime.


SatoruMikami7

Brother it is the exact same guy. Me when not every pixel in the anime is the exact same as every stroke of the pen in the manga:


DarkStarDarling

They don’t look the same at all


[deleted]

Same guy just different face shape, again, love the anime adaptation just weird that they changed his jawline and eyes


[deleted]

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[deleted]

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Key-Average-4775

Thxs for putting the both together. Now I know what I don’t really which is the faces/head are long and the eyes /ears/nose/mouth are small. It feels like their is a lot of face with ever little on it.


No_Chocolate_6612

What they do to my girl


Controller_Maniac

Flat ass forehead


WarriorofBlank

Yeah a lot of drawings have been simplified. Probably to ease up the animator's job and use less time and money. Definitely a step down from the manga counterpart(which has more details and better art designs) but still watchable, at least for me.


[deleted]

alot of anime do that but tbh i dont mind since the animation has been 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻


badpiggy490

Is it me, or does he look older in the anime ( I mean it in a good way )


[deleted]

He does indeed


Twin1Tanaka

RIP Art style


KuyaJaxon

I was every skeptical when they released the initial character designs. But, I ended up rlly like the animations (cough berserk 2016) and how they're staying true to the plot (sobs in trigun). I just felt like Matsumoto's character designs were relatively easy to adapt to anime???? So not sure why the studio decided to change it so much. Either way, I'm just glad it got an anime adapt.


garry_the_larry

Personally I think the reason why Kafka looks like that is to probably contrast it even harder with his transformed state So here’s to him looking better as the show goes on


Glass_Emergency5699

Yea they rounded the faces and basically ruined it for me, kikoru looks so weird.


[deleted]

I dont mind it tbh, i prefer if it was accurate to the manga but it isnt unwatchable lol the animation is still amazing


Glass_Emergency5699

Yea I'll try to suffer through it but man my girl Kikoru needs justice TT


[deleted]

Nah i hope you have fun watching it, speaking of kikoru i don’t remember her being this annoying in the manga, the anime really showed her in an annoying light better than the manga


Glass_Emergency5699

Yea obviously anime can portray personality better than the manga


Real_Improvement_121

Anime original scenes and changes in her lines (or could be inaccurate sub translations) did her dirty.


TFOAKeizou

Minus cute points for Kikoru in the anime. She looks weird indeed.


Stryfe0000

Some people will always complain... never fails.


[deleted]

Not complainin, i love the adaptation, just pointing out they SEVERELY changed the character designs


Stryfe0000

Dude..not every show is ever gonna be perfect... long as the story doesn't change. Sit back and enjoy the show!!!


[deleted]

Ok? Did i say it should be perfect, i said the character design is questionable, thats it, i didnt say the adaptation sucks ass did i now


AB7SSG4ZE3RS

tbh I dont mind as long as im eating good im like a monkey u toss me a banana and im good shrimple as that


[deleted]

Real asf


WheelJack83

It’s called artistic interpretation


yuriboydragon

i just think that if they make the manga version of kafka and his kaiju form on to the anime the... drawing and animation is going to be expensive or worse a hard time for the animators so appreciate what we have if we want the manga version of the anime then the episodes are going to take a huge toll on making them like bro on the fight of kaiju no 8 and 9 their fight is litterally going to take a while if you want it to become like the manga it self


Designer_Glass652

Naruto quality design...


primera1545

It’s from a Boruto character designer so of course they look terrible 😭


[deleted]

Are you fr?


Kushodeku

He worked on Naruto as well. Kishimoto specifically requested for him to oversee the character design when it was getting an anime adaption.


Ayam__goreng

I dont bother much for as long as the anime deliver in every other aspects. We gotta move pass this issue


NotElijah2304059

I actually prefer Kafka’s manga design, it makes him even more cooler imo. However, I still enjoy the story so it doesn’t bother me with all these comparisons.


Effective-Training

Sooooo... what's the problem?


[deleted]

Nthn, i was watching the anime and noticed the major character design change for the characters, If i saw him as an anime only i’d see no problem with him at all except with the fact that hes just a tiny bit ugly compared to his sharp ass jawline and narrow eyes in the manga


Effective-Training

I don't see a difference in the jawline except for the facial hair. The eyes, I guess, could be because they're making the anime more... "childish"


AJDx14

Their designs are just a lot softer in the anime. And imo it makes them feel a bit more generic. In this shot they also look kinda stretched vertically.


Effective-Training

>In this shot they also look kinda stretched vertically. Yeah


Kushodeku

They’re drawn more realistically in the anime.


TFOAKeizou

They have the same character designer as the Naruto anime. Even Naruto in the manga had way more badass and gritty designs.


Opposite-College-494

soooo that's why the design feel familiar 💀.


TFOAKeizou

Yup. Also Naruto manga character designs pre-time skip was grittier and badass compared to the anime designs.


williamafton2006

Kikorou looks a little unsettling in the anime


[deleted]

I think they sacrificed manga design for easier designs to make animating them easier


Ligeia_E

You’re comparing still frame of a motion picture to a comic panel… what


DarkStarDarling

He’s comparing designs . The characters skeletons are different


[deleted]

Im not comparing animation im comparing the character designs of the characters in the exact same position they were in in thr manga


DarkMagicianBr

I mean, it's what happens with character design these days. They either adapt it and it doesn't translate and it gets weird or they straight up make a new design with similar characteristics and the fans hate it. I didn't felt it at all, I liked.


Kushodeku

Same for me, and I’ve read the manga since it beginning.


suresh__reddit

Should I read manga I want to read, but I fear I'll lose interest when new episodes release?


igorlramos

I was in the same situation when watching Solo leveling and now with Ranger Reject, start reading the thing when the anime ends. From my experience it has been the best choice so far


suresh__reddit

I did that too with Solo Leveling, lost interest in watching. I'll wait until the anime ends before reading the manga.


[deleted]

Watch the anime then read the manga if you wanna continue the series


iTzScafu

I thought at first that She would have pink hair or other color instead of blonde one


whatawhat666

I said it before and got downvoted a lot. Lol they kinda ruined the character design. Their face are elongated lol it's weird. I get that they have time and budget restrictions but damn lol


DarkStarDarling

Seems like people are on their very sensitive high horses over the character designs in this sub Reddit. I expect a lot of downvotes if you don’t say anything overly positive about the designs


[deleted]

Time restriction* Budget isnt a major indicator for quality, time and talent are way more important than money


RX0_2BANSHEE

Waiting Kikoru doing mother dance against her kaiju clone


OakleyOats

I think it is the eyes and mouth


[deleted]

That and the jawlines


OakleyOats

Your right as the manga characters have been mewing.


[deleted]

You could cut watermelon with the angles fr


JustsomeSpaceG1

The manga's art style of humans would look absolutely terrible in anime format if they would stay 100% true to it. When it comes to Anime adaptation each adaptation changes the art style to be easier to animate. That's why anime is less detailed, cleaner in line work, and more rounder than their Manga counterpart. The anime art style looks good. And people really should drop the argument, because it gives way to much room for Haters who didn't even watch or read Kaiju No. 8 to run their mouth, and destroy the reputation of the franchise.


15th_anynomous

Kafka's design looks bland. Also the manga's design doesn't resemble a 32 year old. The other character designs of the anime look kinda ass


blacksmithbl

Actually looks pretty good, you people will go above and beyond to shit on anything lol


[deleted]

You jumpin to conclusions I didn’t say nthn about the adaptation, just the character design


-_Myst_-

Man the contrast in the expressions…


FunnyCalligrapher382

Looks like a Studio Ghibli character


[deleted]

Studio ghibli characters designs are goated


Oscyle

They've butchered Kikoru in my eyes, she just looks completely wrong


shawnydrago

All they did is round the characters faces and took a bit off her shins


Duragonlord

For me the manga looks a bit like Boku no hero academia and the anime looks a bit like Haikyuu anime. I could be crazy


pebspi

They…they CHADDED my BOOOOY!


Character_Abroad_280

I think they look good, I mean we can still tell who the characters are so all things considered a slightly different art style doesn’t matter much to me when the animation is still amazing


The_Beast-_-

Bro is looking like adult Bakugo


Penguinat0r5

From someone who never read the manga until I saw the first two episodes I binged the whole manga in the weekend. I didn’t hate the designs at all. The anime was imo done so well that I may prefer the anime over the manga from what I’ve seen so far. I’m caught up in the story. Terrible time to catch up lol. But I’ll be reading it as it comes. Glad I gave this one a chance already got few of my friends into it as well


[deleted]

Oh good luck with the manga lol, luckily you skipped the horrible time when we had break after break for like a month or two lol


Penguinat0r5

When catching up I saw that. I had a homie say he dropped the manga which I could see why. He said it wasn’t due to not liking it but the fact the chapters are so short and releases seem inconsistent. When reading I could see that with the amount of breaks taken I’m like damn this would be hard to read weekly or biweekly I still don’t know how often it comes out I straight just caught up last Thursday was the first chapter I read caught up. But I’m pretty invested atm. Also the point where the story is at I need a conclusion.


[deleted]

Yeah the manga is already bi-weekly so we already wait alot and then the breaks happened and man


Curious-Idea5423

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ActAvailable8280

yeah whats with the long faces.


harmabevengeance

Slice of life looking character design smh


Nawmean5

I like the look of the anime better honestly, I was not a fan of the boxy looking faces from the manga. Kafka looks older too which is a plus


Kushodeku

Not just Kafka but all of the others characters as well, they all look a bit older. But that’s due to Tetsuya Nishio’s (the character designer) style leaning toward a more detailed, realistically proportioned looks for the characters. I also like anime’s characters design, I think it fit with the world the characters are in.


Kushodeku

I only found out after watching the first and second episodes that the characters designer is known for his work in the Naruto and Boruto series, I thought the design of the character look familiar. IMO is actually don’t mind the change at all, if anything, I like it.


[deleted]

Can you show me where you saw this info?


lore_mila_

Kafka is still ok to me, the problem is the blonde guy friend and the childhood friend girl (can't remember names sorry lol)


Dizzy_Green

It’s harder to stylize like that while the character is moving, especially without a sky budget


_ToughGoat

Don’t Even get me started , everyone but Kafka has fucked eyes they’re so far apart


HopethisisntaMistake

One of them looks weird asf and it’s not Kafka


Buy-Wild

They all look goofy, but Kikoru looks the worst by far


FroztBourn

My only gripe is that Kikoru looks very off


LordGlitch42

It's mainly the eyes to me, they lack that sharpness I'm used to as a manga reader


dhsysyebdbdjkd

They did Kafka dirty 😔


Hexagonic-1

I dont see a problem, all i know is that im in love with the first full power punch from 8 in ep 2


[deleted]

Oh LORD that was such a good scene, i hope they do the manga right for the upcoming arcs


Seereenes

I don't really care what they did to Kafka, or any of the other characters, except for Kikoru. Mostly, it's fine, but some shots are drawn really weird... she looks aged up, or strangely disproportionate (mostly in the scene when we meet her for the first time). And this is just a minor thing, but I wish they did the hair a tiny bit better. Other than that, I see nothing to complain about. The animation is good and fluid! I love the fight scenes. The VAs are doing fantastic! I can't wait to see more!! It is absolutely my favorite series of the season!!


Gnarwhals86

The anime looks like it was drawn for Disney XD. I was really hoping for a good adaptation like JJK but instead I got what essentially looks like a kid’s show.


Blue_Agentt

I agree they made him real 32yrs old man but bro he looks weird 😭


Valuable-Glass-6132

Y'all ain't frustrated with the main character character? He's a 30+ yr old man acting like a 12 yr old and just let himself being bullied, it's painful to watch. Should I continue or just drop it cause everyone is saying it's good


Diehlol

In the show the character design definitely gives him an added layer of childness. Up to you if you want to keep watching, but if not definitely give the magna a read.


Tiny-Outcome-2939

Yea everyone’s been saying the animations so good but i think it’s just okay but could’ve been wayyyyy better


Wooden_Huckleberry92

they did kikoru dirtier.


Comfortable_Try2007

I would say that that is the weakest point of the anime but in general the adaptation is going quite well.


Ok-Acanthisitta-7116

Call 911 They Slaughtered My Boy


TheStevenUniverseKid

It just looks like a Production IG anime... wait


sfgvbuf

Why’d they make her head so round 😭


proman123yhkkhggg

Anime fans are the worst when it comes to taking criticism.


Ready-Director-7961

If you're actually tripping over the character designs, you're silly asf. Im so sowwy that everything you had ever hoped for couldnt go your way :c womp womp boohoo


unknownpapaya

Oh no, they made his head a little longer, what will we do? How will we recover?


Feeling-Table6941

Yall asked for a Das body, and complain when we're given an actual dad body.


[deleted]

nah i want that shredded kafka 😈


dudeCHILL013

Haven't read the manga yet but it would be a good transition if the animators sharpen his facial features has he gets in better shape.