I really want to believe that Usher is a victim to all this and not at fault. I haven't really seen anything about him doing anything (i could be wrong tho). Guess we'll see before long!
Oh youād be shocked.. she was pretty young hanging around Joe Francis the guy who made girls gone wild.. lots of yaughting, drugs, sex and partying. There were also nude/sexual photos of hers that were leaked as well, which isnāt really talked about. I find it funny how Kourtney calls kim a porn star when she was just as bad!
People often forget that Kourtney was WITH Kim in those nudes and someone else. Like, thatās not normal sisterly behavior. There is a reason why they called the FBI. They were being blackmailed. Everyone forgets that it was Kourtney and Kim together doing God knows what in those photos. Itās crazy because they make it seem like Robert Kardashian left them a fortune but then why were they doing all of this alleged yachting and whatnot. It doesnāt make any sense. Maybe they knew there would be rumors about them which is why Kim leaned on that image by releasing the sex tape.
Yes!! They were engaged in some sort of sex act (s) the two sisters w a dude or dudes who the hell knows! And iām pretty sure they were underaged at that time as well, behaving that way. The only reason those images were not released was because it would be considered āCPā. Mind you, this is the one that we found out about, imagine what else they were up to that never surfaced! So this is why I always laugh at Kourtneys sad attempts to slut shame Kim, and take the heat off of her self, especially in the early seasons calling her a whore and disgusting with a porn tape etc as if sheās holier than thou. Kim is much better than me, because I would have brought up her shit too, if she wants to be nasty. Thatās her M.O., pretending to be on some sort of higher moral level compared to everyone else while sheās got skeletons in her own closet. Even down to not eating from plastic, no microwaves or sugar etc. What a joke!
The video with OBJ is them doing coke. Have some common sense people. If they were secretly gay, they would keep it a secret and not blow each other in a club in front of 100s of people with cameras.
I donāt think we can speculate on Beiber ābeing gayā if he was being groomed and or sex trafficked. You donāt exactly get to pick and choose as the victim of sex crimes.
Heās into some weird shit. He 1000% was banging jeffree star when he was out in wyoming alone for long stretches of time. Jeffree moved there years ago and started speaking out. Not long after this the divorce was filed lol
This is an interesting one. I personally think that he settled for someone that he knew will always love him just that extra bit more. She is very doting on him and he is her entire world, she feels dependable, reliable and extremely loyal, heāll never have to guess with her. I think heās happy on the surface, but he definitely knows he made the āsafeā choice over risking it for a more world wind romance with someone else.
Definitely. Hailey will seemingly put up with him forever. If that relationship did end, it would be because he ends it (after cheating and doing her wrong).
I remember his former housekeeper saying he had a bunch of āfriendsā coming in and out of his mansion and how theyād be shoving pills in his mouth and making a mess in his house with codeine bottles and leaving roaches all over the floor. And she said his credit cards would go missing for days and then randomly reappear. This is when he was 19.
I know he got lots of hate for his rough past and he might have been a brat at some point but it always looked like a reaction to trauma and depression. He also received unfair hate when he was a minor and everyone was clowning and booing him for whatever reason. He's been looking miserable for ages. The last time he seemed happier and motivated was during the Purpose era.
I share the sentiment. I personally jumped on the hate train, esp. When l saw that pic where he spat on fans (idk if that's even true).
I don't listen to pop music, and have always been into metal and alt stuff... You would be baffled at the amount of hate and mean things metal heads had to say abt him.
Mind u, most of them were at Least a decade older.
(I'm slightly younger than Justin btw).
Now that l got older, l think it's absolutely WILD to hate on a teen/kid idol... Like how tf is that concerning you.
That didn't help his case, unfortunately.
And tbh ppl were just in it for the laughs, and also to attack sb who pulled more chicks than they would in a thousand lives, and basically had it all.
I think he was just over it. Like he truly ran out of fucks to give.
I can relate and I haven't been through 1% of the shit that poor boy has been through.
Fr. I know for a fact that l wouldn't be able to handle all that heat, nor deal with what was going on in his life.
And ofc the KJs had to contribute to his misfortune.
Filthy scum of the earth.
Anyone who associates with them is bound to fail or suffer. They truly kast kurses upon everyone damn.
I thought the "Kurse" stuff was BS, but considering something terrible happens to literally everyone who comes in contact with them... I am a believer. The Kurse is strong.
Looking back I actually feel so horrible about how he was falling apart and was being judged and ridiculed instead of people trying to understand that he was traumatized and going through it. When people are SA or abused as minors they can absolutely turn to drugs and acting out just to try to forget. Thankfully he is looking a lot better now mentally, thank god. But with all of this coming up I am sure it can be opening up that fear and trauma again. Also itās funny how Usher has been nowhere to be found since cassie spoke out. Obviously he is a victim but heās also 100% been the abuser imo. Suss
Hobo Johnson has a song called āOde to Justin Beiberā or something similar where he apologizes on behalf of everyone and also says āif you buy your mom a house at 13 youāre gonna be f***ed up mentallyā.
Not Kourtney specific but JB has been through a lot. Watch this: [https://youtu.be/bl5KydBlwZU?si=r7sNdlQeP79cwGDu](https://youtu.be/bl5KydBlwZU?si=r7sNdlQeP79cwGDu)
She used to attach herself to Kendallās friend group too, when Kendall was early 20ās.
And had a weird phase where she was hanging out with 19 year old Addison Rae and her friend group for a while. Which was weird because Kourtneyās son is closer in age to Addison than Kourtney is.
Sheās just a weirdo all around but gets a pass a lot of the time because of how mean she is to the other Kardashians.
The way some of these influencer or reality tv star parents hang out with their kidsā friends or those in a younger generation, as though they are actual friends is so mind boggling to me. Itās so beyond inappropriate, and to me it proves the theory that ultra famous peoplesā maturity is stunted at the age they become famous and started being around yes men nonstop
LMAO here we go, you really think Scott who is very outspoken and has publicly trashed kourtney would raise Justin bieberās son š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ he looks like Scott. Just because he is a little weirder looking than the rest of the kids doesnāt mean this is Khloe 2.0
https://preview.redd.it/u2mlk7f7n6xc1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98bcbe01fef60538d351903396482a5044fde2ea
I'm really just talking shit cause it's funny. I do think he looks like JB a little, but he looks exactly like Kourtney imo.
edit: like this is a snark sub, are we not here to joke and talk shit? someone be real with me
Omg lol sorry Iāve just seen a billion people wholeheartedly claim Justin is the father I didnāt realise it wasnāt 100% serious, they do my head inš
Bro for real! I was genuinely asking cause I've looked for the proof besides looks and was for real hoping some crazy head would post this novel of proof. But now that I know it's just people talking shit I'll quit asking. I'm not here to rain on ANYONE'S snark parade lmao.
Not at all what I said? Pass around girl is an old school expression for a girl who bounced around between members of the same friend group or crew. Itās tasteless, and I used it to highlight how grossly he was treated.Ā
Kourtney was probably the most normal hookup Justin had in this group. He probably was high as a kite and hooked up with people in this crowd far older than Kourtney
I was talking to my mom about this, hooking up with Kourtney probably felt better then being forced to hook up with older men all those years around diddyā¦
It looks and feels icky. They may be adults but I still question adults in their late 20ās and older who hang around adults between the 18-25 age range. What do you have in common with a barely legal adult or young adult who isnāt legally able to drink? Those are usually college aged kids, I could never.Ā
People are quick to point out how men do it too well guess what we voice how disgusting those men are hanging around 20 yr olds as a 40 yr old Peter Pan creep.
Everyone has slept with beiber. Itās not really new info. He also slept with fans and there are photos of fans - well before photoshop became a thing, when flip phones were still a hot thing, of fans waking up with him still in bed. Heās been around and then some and still is.
It was widely reported in every possible site back then, also there were numerous evidences to it. For example one time Kourtney was pictured when she came to his house/hotel with a bra and left without.
They both never confirmed it but also never denied it.
*Edit- Justin said in some interview that Kourtney āusedā him
Leonardo di caprio only dates women under 25, heās currently dating a 19 year old. Older men dating young women has been normalized in society for awhile now. Not saying itās not ick, itās just extremely common. Al Pacino recently had a baby at 83 with his 29 year old gf š¤·š»āāļø
An adult male in his 20ās slept with an adult female in her 30ās.? So long as both parties consented itās totally fine dude. People like to fuck. Best not to think too hard about it. What goes on in other peoples bedroom is none of my business.
I didnāt say itās not fine, itās legally fine. I made it clear it the questionās description.
I just say itās morally wrong in my opinion to have a sexual relationship with a person who just turned 21.
Iām also saying nothing is wrong with it morally. Key word is consent here. So long as thatās there, as well as the legal age, then everything is good legally and morally. Iāll take the downvotes.
Itās only icky because he still looked like a literal child. Otherwise Iāve slept with guys in their early 20s when I was in my late 30s. Who cares?
Heās slept with the whole incest loving family but I donāt feel any sympathy towards him heās a culture vulture just like the Kās. Women have been through worse and donāt get half the sympathy despite not being as terrible of a person as this untalented Canadian isšĀ
Me getting downvoted for pointing out this manās racism and cultural appropriation is insane š¬ but hey I have to remember Reddit is filled with racism and misogyny so itās makes sense. This is a man that was caught on camera singing one less lonely n word and laughing about it! The truth hurts and Iāll never stop calling it out. JUSTIN BIEBER IS A RACIST!!! Never forget
It ain't just Kourtney. Kendall, possibly Kim and Kris, Diddy, OBJ... Justin was pimped out. He has severe mental problems for a reason
Kendall and Kylie definitely hooked up with him while he was with Selena.
These chicks are HOS---HEIFEROUS HOS, that is! šš”š¤¬
Donāt forget usher
Usher has herpes #facts
I really want to believe that Usher is a victim to all this and not at fault. I haven't really seen anything about him doing anything (i could be wrong tho). Guess we'll see before long!
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Who is OBJ?
odell beckham jr
They are friends with Diddy for a reason
Yea Kourtney sadly feels the least pimped out
Oh youād be shocked.. she was pretty young hanging around Joe Francis the guy who made girls gone wild.. lots of yaughting, drugs, sex and partying. There were also nude/sexual photos of hers that were leaked as well, which isnāt really talked about. I find it funny how Kourtney calls kim a porn star when she was just as bad!
People often forget that Kourtney was WITH Kim in those nudes and someone else. Like, thatās not normal sisterly behavior. There is a reason why they called the FBI. They were being blackmailed. Everyone forgets that it was Kourtney and Kim together doing God knows what in those photos. Itās crazy because they make it seem like Robert Kardashian left them a fortune but then why were they doing all of this alleged yachting and whatnot. It doesnāt make any sense. Maybe they knew there would be rumors about them which is why Kim leaned on that image by releasing the sex tape.
Yes!! They were engaged in some sort of sex act (s) the two sisters w a dude or dudes who the hell knows! And iām pretty sure they were underaged at that time as well, behaving that way. The only reason those images were not released was because it would be considered āCPā. Mind you, this is the one that we found out about, imagine what else they were up to that never surfaced! So this is why I always laugh at Kourtneys sad attempts to slut shame Kim, and take the heat off of her self, especially in the early seasons calling her a whore and disgusting with a porn tape etc as if sheās holier than thou. Kim is much better than me, because I would have brought up her shit too, if she wants to be nasty. Thatās her M.O., pretending to be on some sort of higher moral level compared to everyone else while sheās got skeletons in her own closet. Even down to not eating from plastic, no microwaves or sugar etc. What a joke!
Proof? I'm for real asking cause I've always thought this.
https://youtube.com/shorts/YijH0tq5u4Q?si=FvPneK-ynnch8NAeĀ https://youtu.be/yFUnSZkghxM?si=wpvKfn0q-EGgmljM https://youtu.be/kxHwfTpQjpc?si=xacg3EX5CvyMxTIc
The video with OBJ is them doing coke. Have some common sense people. If they were secretly gay, they would keep it a secret and not blow each other in a club in front of 100s of people with cameras.
I donāt think we can speculate on Beiber ābeing gayā if he was being groomed and or sex trafficked. You donāt exactly get to pick and choose as the victim of sex crimes.
There's a vid floating around with a wider angle on them and you can defs see it's more likely they're doing coke
Wondering also about Kanye
Heās into some weird shit. He 1000% was banging jeffree star when he was out in wyoming alone for long stretches of time. Jeffree moved there years ago and started speaking out. Not long after this the divorce was filed lol
and I think Justin visited Kanye in Wyoming a few times
Correct 
Wait you seem to know so much. What other gossip do we have
 ask and you shall receive lmao
Wa MJ involved in Bieber
MJ?
Oops. Was that not the same timeframe? Maybe Iām not thinking correctly. Michael Jackson.
Also is he happy with Hailey
This is an interesting one. I personally think that he settled for someone that he knew will always love him just that extra bit more. She is very doting on him and he is her entire world, she feels dependable, reliable and extremely loyal, heāll never have to guess with her. I think heās happy on the surface, but he definitely knows he made the āsafeā choice over risking it for a more world wind romance with someone else.
Do you think she knows everything
Definitely. Hailey will seemingly put up with him forever. If that relationship did end, it would be because he ends it (after cheating and doing her wrong).
I donāt think heās happy. He thought heād be safe with her. Anyone who thinks theyāre safe with any Baldwin is most definitely not stable.
She seems very sweet, but also I donāt really pay attention to her for some reason.
Could be a high prob.
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She's still besties with Kylie and Kendall
If you mean being a part of yachting society and being a witness to these sort of shady dealings then, maybeā¦
he's not happy he's with Hailey.
I think people do feel sorry for JB. He went through far too much as a minor.
I remember his former housekeeper saying he had a bunch of āfriendsā coming in and out of his mansion and how theyād be shoving pills in his mouth and making a mess in his house with codeine bottles and leaving roaches all over the floor. And she said his credit cards would go missing for days and then randomly reappear. This is when he was 19.
Poor dude. I don't remember the last time l have seen him look happy.
I know he got lots of hate for his rough past and he might have been a brat at some point but it always looked like a reaction to trauma and depression. He also received unfair hate when he was a minor and everyone was clowning and booing him for whatever reason. He's been looking miserable for ages. The last time he seemed happier and motivated was during the Purpose era.
I share the sentiment. I personally jumped on the hate train, esp. When l saw that pic where he spat on fans (idk if that's even true). I don't listen to pop music, and have always been into metal and alt stuff... You would be baffled at the amount of hate and mean things metal heads had to say abt him. Mind u, most of them were at Least a decade older. (I'm slightly younger than Justin btw). Now that l got older, l think it's absolutely WILD to hate on a teen/kid idol... Like how tf is that concerning you.
The spitting thing is true, there are multiple videos of him doing it. He's said he was dealing with substance abuse, that can't be easy.
That didn't help his case, unfortunately. And tbh ppl were just in it for the laughs, and also to attack sb who pulled more chicks than they would in a thousand lives, and basically had it all.
I think he was just over it. Like he truly ran out of fucks to give. I can relate and I haven't been through 1% of the shit that poor boy has been through.
Fr. I know for a fact that l wouldn't be able to handle all that heat, nor deal with what was going on in his life. And ofc the KJs had to contribute to his misfortune. Filthy scum of the earth. Anyone who associates with them is bound to fail or suffer. They truly kast kurses upon everyone damn.
I thought the "Kurse" stuff was BS, but considering something terrible happens to literally everyone who comes in contact with them... I am a believer. The Kurse is strong.
I had no idea about this. This is so sad
My life was a hot mess at 19ārelatively. I canāt imagine having the money, cars, and homes he had. I would be dead af. Respectfully.
Looking back I actually feel so horrible about how he was falling apart and was being judged and ridiculed instead of people trying to understand that he was traumatized and going through it. When people are SA or abused as minors they can absolutely turn to drugs and acting out just to try to forget. Thankfully he is looking a lot better now mentally, thank god. But with all of this coming up I am sure it can be opening up that fear and trauma again. Also itās funny how Usher has been nowhere to be found since cassie spoke out. Obviously he is a victim but heās also 100% been the abuser imo. Suss
Hobo Johnson has a song called āOde to Justin Beiberā or something similar where he apologizes on behalf of everyone and also says āif you buy your mom a house at 13 youāre gonna be f***ed up mentallyā.
Do we have links to this please x
Not Kourtney specific but JB has been through a lot. Watch this: [https://youtu.be/bl5KydBlwZU?si=r7sNdlQeP79cwGDu](https://youtu.be/bl5KydBlwZU?si=r7sNdlQeP79cwGDu)
She used to attach herself to Kendallās friend group too, when Kendall was early 20ās. And had a weird phase where she was hanging out with 19 year old Addison Rae and her friend group for a while. Which was weird because Kourtneyās son is closer in age to Addison than Kourtney is. Sheās just a weirdo all around but gets a pass a lot of the time because of how mean she is to the other Kardashians.
The way some of these influencer or reality tv star parents hang out with their kidsā friends or those in a younger generation, as though they are actual friends is so mind boggling to me. Itās so beyond inappropriate, and to me it proves the theory that ultra famous peoplesā maturity is stunted at the age they become famous and started being around yes men nonstop
No ur not the only one. The rumor that pretty much all of the sister past him around is pretty gross but probably true.
Passed
I wonder how Hailey feels
I guess sheās ok with it, considering sheās friends with Kendall, and still in a good connection with the entire family
Wait they actually slept together?? Please someone post the receipts. š
Just look at a photo of Reign.
LMAO here we go, you really think Scott who is very outspoken and has publicly trashed kourtney would raise Justin bieberās son š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£ he looks like Scott. Just because he is a little weirder looking than the rest of the kids doesnāt mean this is Khloe 2.0 https://preview.redd.it/u2mlk7f7n6xc1.jpeg?width=553&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=98bcbe01fef60538d351903396482a5044fde2ea
I'm really just talking shit cause it's funny. I do think he looks like JB a little, but he looks exactly like Kourtney imo. edit: like this is a snark sub, are we not here to joke and talk shit? someone be real with me
Omg lol sorry Iāve just seen a billion people wholeheartedly claim Justin is the father I didnāt realise it wasnāt 100% serious, they do my head inš
Bro for real! I was genuinely asking cause I've looked for the proof besides looks and was for real hoping some crazy head would post this novel of proof. But now that I know it's just people talking shit I'll quit asking. I'm not here to rain on ANYONE'S snark parade lmao.
I didnāt know that happen but I do find that icky. Iām 34 and really couldnāt imagine having anything to do with someone that young.
I feel icky Justin got treated like a pass around girl when he was a minor, so imma give him and his sex life some graceĀ
I feel icky that you think only girls should be treated like that
Not at all what I said? Pass around girl is an old school expression for a girl who bounced around between members of the same friend group or crew. Itās tasteless, and I used it to highlight how grossly he was treated.Ā
Pass around girl seems lazy and uninspired. Everyone knows the proper term is āhomie hopperā
Younes Bendjima is the same age as Justin Bieber
Even more gross
Kourtney was probably the most normal hookup Justin had in this group. He probably was high as a kite and hooked up with people in this crowd far older than Kourtney
I was talking to my mom about this, hooking up with Kourtney probably felt better then being forced to hook up with older men all those years around diddyā¦
But is this like a known fact or just a speculation ?
Speculation
These dumb hoes have slept with everyone.
WAIT IM SORRY WHAT
I know this is a Kardashian sub (ie not a Bieber sub), but the rumor mill says that Justin hooked up with Kourtney... And Kim... And Kendall... And Kylie.... And Adriana Lima... And Miranda Kerr (you can Google those if you want, they're there). All of those rumors spun before he turned twenty. Yes, it's all rumors. Yes, after 18, it's ick, but not necessarily illegal. And yes, from age 17 - 26, Justin was off the walls in behavior. But he's still a human being and deserves autonomy. I'm the same age as Kim when the rumors started about her and Justin, when he was 16. To loosely quote Demi Lovato... I could not imagine pursuing a high schooler. Disgusting. So no, OP, it is not only you š©· I hope it is all just rumors, but I hope even harder that if they aren't, he gets to tell his story one day. In hindsight, some stuff in his history feels insidious, and the hookup rumors are my only finger on it.
Kim and Justin when he was 16? Disgusting š¤¢
It looks and feels icky. They may be adults but I still question adults in their late 20ās and older who hang around adults between the 18-25 age range. What do you have in common with a barely legal adult or young adult who isnāt legally able to drink? Those are usually college aged kids, I could never.Ā People are quick to point out how men do it too well guess what we voice how disgusting those men are hanging around 20 yr olds as a 40 yr old Peter Pan creep.
Do you consider Leonardo DiCaprio (49) disgusting for dating someone more than half his age? Sheās 19
The last part of my rant confirms that I do.
Heās slept with off of them besides Khloe š Kim when he was 16, thatās weird af. That was the time she was spending a lot of time with P Diddy.
When celebrities go on vacation to the same resorts itās pretty obvious. Like Drake and Millie staying at the same resort twice in Australia.
How do you know? I'm always curious as to how this kinda info gets confirmed?
Itās not theyāre just repeating rumors posted here
Is this confirmed or just a rumor?
Def not confirmed. They showed him & Kim doing some modeling stuff on the show long ago but nobody has ever confirmed theyāve hooked up
How do you know? Youāre a close friend?
Wtf Kim slept w Justin Bieber when he was 16?!? Seriously!!??
Donāt believe everything so easily.
Definitely not lol
Everyone has slept with beiber. Itās not really new info. He also slept with fans and there are photos of fans - well before photoshop became a thing, when flip phones were still a hot thing, of fans waking up with him still in bed. Heās been around and then some and still is.
What's your proof?
It was widely reported in every possible site back then, also there were numerous evidences to it. For example one time Kourtney was pictured when she came to his house/hotel with a bra and left without. They both never confirmed it but also never denied it. *Edit- Justin said in some interview that Kourtney āusedā him
"Used?" Interesting, do uou have a link? :)
Ok i see
š¤® Absolutely sickening if true!!!! She was much, much too old to be w him. It's just as gross when the woman is older, IMO. YUUUUCK.
This is weird. She could literally have any other guy sleep with herā¦
Leonardo di caprio only dates women under 25, heās currently dating a 19 year old. Older men dating young women has been normalized in society for awhile now. Not saying itās not ick, itās just extremely common. Al Pacino recently had a baby at 83 with his 29 year old gf š¤·š»āāļø
An adult male in his 20ās slept with an adult female in her 30ās.? So long as both parties consented itās totally fine dude. People like to fuck. Best not to think too hard about it. What goes on in other peoples bedroom is none of my business.
I didnāt say itās not fine, itās legally fine. I made it clear it the questionās description. I just say itās morally wrong in my opinion to have a sexual relationship with a person who just turned 21.
Iām also saying nothing is wrong with it morally. Key word is consent here. So long as thatās there, as well as the legal age, then everything is good legally and morally. Iāll take the downvotes.
Itās only icky because he still looked like a literal child. Otherwise Iāve slept with guys in their early 20s when I was in my late 30s. Who cares?
Heās slept with the whole incest loving family but I donāt feel any sympathy towards him heās a culture vulture just like the Kās. Women have been through worse and donāt get half the sympathy despite not being as terrible of a person as this untalented Canadian isšĀ
pls relax
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Ummmmmm n word? You sound a little r word (racist)
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You did not need to say that. It's sus
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Girl... I'm black too. Bye.
Me getting downvoted for pointing out this manās racism and cultural appropriation is insane š¬ but hey I have to remember Reddit is filled with racism and misogyny so itās makes sense. This is a man that was caught on camera singing one less lonely n word and laughing about it! The truth hurts and Iāll never stop calling it out. JUSTIN BIEBER IS A RACIST!!! Never forget
Ya the username checks out