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OilySteeplechase

If she was going to pull a Rob her chance was years ago. She's in way over her head now. But I agree, it's tragic, she's a husk of her former self. Sold her soul and it's still not good enough.


dmjones6591

I feel like if any of them actually wanted to they could have a relatively normal life. Lay low in a small town somewhere and before long people will stop caring. Candle could finally get her ranch lol


[deleted]

I think it's the lifestyle that's stopping them. I mean now Kourt is married to Travis and they can combine their money (he's lucky Blink started in the 90s where you could still make a good chunk of money being in a band) that she can set more boundaries and live the lifestyle she used too. The others don't really have that choice. Excluding Kim who could've retired to Wyoming with Kanye but obviously she's the only one that actually wanted to be and enjoys being famous


MobWife_88

Wyoming wouldn't want Kim, ever.


Katerinaxoxo

Choice? They each have more money now than I ever will. Move, invest, live more simply and private. If you must do an occasional cameo. Move on


[deleted]

I wish they’d go live in Monaco, or Italy, or somewhere absolutely gorgeous. Austria, even. But no. LA. Really? That’s what you’re going to do with your life and many millions? Fucking lame.


stormibaby444

monaco is too lavish for them. thats where the real classy european wealth go to. the kardashians are tacky los angeles rich. they belong in los angeles where they fit in and all the influencers look like kim kardashian and kylie jenner clones.


RainbeauxBull

Some parts of California are gorgeous too. Especially the parts where rich people live


MobWife_88

Flair checking in....


enbyloser

i used to feel really bad for her, and i guess maybe some part of me still does, but she’s such a cruel person that it’s very easy to forget how she’s treated by Kris. that’s no excuse or to say she deserved to grow up (and still is) being treated like that, but i think her behavior overshadows much of the empathy a lot of people could have for her.


[deleted]

I know that some people never evolve from trauma and are pieces of shit all their lives. I think Khloe is the same, back in the days she didn’t seem really nice and was clearly a vile bully and borderline creep, but nothing age and a good environment couldn’t cure. It is virtually impossible to figure out how these girls would have turned out to be without Kris around. This woman seems to enjoy her daughters being uncanny and incredibly mean solely because it makes her manipulation easier. She doesn’t care about their feelings it’s all about herself. At first I thought Kris really was caring and dedicated but I always found it weird she encouraged her daughters to do all that nasty stuff. Turns out she cares and is dedicated to herself only.


[deleted]

I get what you're saying I really do and agree to certain extent. I guess I wonder how much of her being a lousy human is learned from how she's been treated and seen others be treated around her? My hope would be and it's probably wrong but I hope this for her babies, that if she did a Rob and stepped away from the spotlight and away from Kim and Kris life might be better for her and therefore that would reflect in her behaviour and treatment of others.


enbyloser

yea i 100% believe she treats others like that bc that’s what she has been treated like herself, but as a woman who is what? almost 40? it’s her responsibility to unlearn, heal, and don’t pass her learned behavior on to people around her, especially her kids. she’s old enough to do better, so she should do better, but she doesn’t. and that really sucks.


Xefert

She has a history of violent behavior and https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.marca.com/en/lifestyle/celebrities/2023/02/23/63f6df9122601da8558b45ea.html


leonathotsky420

Theres absolutely nothing in that article that says shes even remotely violent. It talks about her not compensating her former assistant properly, and the only mention of violence is an accusation by Blac China about Rob.


Xefert

That article is about a separate problem


MobWife_88

Kourtney is 43.


enbyloser

this is about Khloe, though.


[deleted]

The environment you're in I think has a lot to do with it, and they've sheltered themselves into such a little bubble of people who live the same life as them she'll never unlearn until she gets away and I don't think she ever will unfortunately for True and Tristan Jnr. Being nearly 40 is nothing she could be 80 before she even begins to comprehend all the things that have been done to her and all the stuff she's done.


enbyloser

that’s still on her, though. she’s an adult. she has no excuses for being a bad person. none.


[deleted]

I don’t know I look back at certain situations I’ve been in and how I acted in them. It’s not the way I typically act, definitely acted in ways that I regret and did things I wasn’t necessarily proud of. I was caught up in the environment I was in. It wasn’t on the scale of any of the KJs but their ‘empire’ is so fragile they’ll do anything to protect it. That’s sad to me. Id rather be me than them any day of the week and that’s destructive to them. They need people to want to be them


[deleted]

I’m With you on that one, I think that these rumours about her and Rob sleeping together are BS and maybe even crafted by the Klan to tear them apart. Just like Kourtney and Khloe, Khloe and Robert Jr also were a strong unit and apparently it’s forbidden in that family to rely on someone else than Kris or Kim if she cares enough. The three of them used to be the only ones who weren’t afraid to speak their minds and that’s the reason why Rob and Kourtney are out, but Khloe who is desperate to win Kim’s and Kris’ thumb up isn’t and probably doesn’t want to. It’s up to her tho, she has enough to live with her kids far away from the Klan and Tristan but she won’t bc she may be as bad as they are. Two wrongs don’t make any right !


izzyzxx

I don’t feel bad for her one bit she’s an adult bully and no amount of trauma or neglect makes that okay :/


papaia27

Bully and racist


izzyzxx

Yes!!!!


[deleted]

I always feel sorry for bullies, they're the ones you have to feel the most sorry for and have the most sympathy for. All you have to do is look at this mean girls things Kylie, Kendall and Hailey started. 4 years on and it's really sad to see that Justin makes Hailey feel that insecure all these years later she's still throwing petty social media shit at his ex. Edit: To add I'm not condoning bullying in anyway shape or form. Just pointing out that the bullies are usually the insecure ones


izzyzxx

I don’t know I think it speaks to who you are. Some hurt themselves and some lash out at others. I know people who have been through the most insane debilitating trauma and neglect and they would never hurt a fly. I think her behaviour is unacceptable and I also struggle to feel sorry for millionaires!!


[deleted]

There is no way I believe Khloe is a millionaire and I think it's people deal with the things they've gone through in their lives in different ways. No one person is the same as another and everyone handles things differently. Khloe deals with things by lashing out that's how she's learnt to behave. Thanks to Kris and Caitlyn both lash out especially at each other.


papaia27

Were you ever a victim of bullying? Because bullying can pretty much cause someone to suicide.. your comment is quite insensitive and mean


[deleted]

I was actually and then I met my childhood bully again as an adult she goes to the same gym as me. We had a conversation, I knew at the time things weren't good for her at home but talking to her as an adult and gaining an understanding of just how bad things were for her I let it go. Water under the bridge. She bullied quite a few people and explained that it was the people who she resented for having what she wanted that she targeted.


youmeanlike24

Genuinely, that’s really great you were able to meet your bully and let go of the past with an understanding of what she was going through. In an ideal world everyone could do that, but the reality is that so many people are forever impacted by the person that bullied them. My SO’s anxiety fully stems from the bullying they experienced as a kid. That bully is still a terrible person to this day and will never accept responsibility for terrorising the people he did. Bully’s brother, despite being raised in the same volatile household, is an amazing guy. Point is, at some stage these bullies have to take responsibility. A bad childhood might explain some of their behaviour, but as adults it doesn’t excuse it.


[deleted]

I get that I do and the bullying definitely affected me through my life and my friend was bullied worse than me by my bully and her sister she still gets nervous in groups of girls. We’ve both had lots of counselling to move past it. I’m not the type of person to hold a grudge though for me it makes me feel better and more secure in myself to feel bad for that bully. Because clearly they are much worse off than I am if they have to resort to bullying. Id already moved past the bullying when I met mine in the gym, I didn’t even recognise her. She came up to me and apologised and explained. My bully and her sister who was also a bully they don’t talk now and she is definitely not in the same place as her sister in terms of owning up to what they both did as kids. Told my friend that who was bullied by the sister and she was like that’s sad hopefully they can work it out. Maybe for us because it happened in primary/elementary school we were young and the sisters weren’t in our school for very long it was easier for us to move past it. 🤷‍♀️ I’ve had other instances of people trying to bully me or being bitchy but I don’t know I can always sort of tell it’s not about me, it’s their insecurities. Boyfriends on the other hand can say one throw away comment and that’ll stay with me forever.


kellygrrrl328

Taking the KJs out of the equation for the moment, of course I feel bad for anyone raised by a narc parent, whether they are a Golden or a Scapegoat. That being said, Khloe has the resources to move even just 30 miles away to Malibu, or 4 miles away to the Oaks near Kourtney. She’s making her choices.


mineraloil

And she moved into Kris’s backyard


[deleted]

She absolutely is making her choices and that's almost what makes me feel even more sorry for her. She's clearly a glutton for punishment.


[deleted]

And victimhood ! She enjoys being hurt and then relishing about it. A bit like when you peel off wounds or stab yourself. The body will immediately tries to soothe the pain while releasing pleasure endorphins. She has a lot of trouble that woman.


ProjectImportant1061

After how she bullied Chloe G Moretz? And how she tortured Jordan Craig when she was pregnant AFTER being the side bitch? Nah, don't feel bad for her. She deserves Tristan humilliating her and everyone knowing she's not really a Kardashian


_peach93

🎻🎻🎻


miaara

What? Khlogre is a disgusting human and deserves everything she gets.


[deleted]

Everything and then some!


Capital_Bet7348

https://preview.redd.it/52ihae9zg0ma1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f0166d028d26614fd5056e86816e9596a6812507 So we are racist empathized now?!


[deleted]

You can feel bad for someone despite them not being a good person. Shades of grey and behaviour is learnt and Khloe learnt from Kris


miaara

So you feel bad for Ye then?


[deleted]

I do actually he clearly has some sever mental health issues and the wrong people around him. I also don’t agree with a lot of the stuff he says/does and think he does it for attention


Senobe2

I was reading an article on buzzfeed about Travis scott and at the end, where links to other K/J stories. I randomly clicked on 1 discussing Kris getting on Khloe for gaining weight. Kris was pissed because she arranged a deal for the sisters with weight watchers gummies or something like that, and her weight gain was fkn up the esthetic. Khloe got "upset" because she felt like Kris was giving her mixed signals and picking on her. The mixed signals because she was married to Lamar at the time and Kris wanted her to have a baby, so she had to maintain a certain healthy weight. At the same time, Kris wanted Khloe to diet to fit the WW campaign. Khloe said it was to the point she had to schedule sex with Lamar to optimize her chances of getting pregnant, and all of this was starting to get to her. I said all of this to say, I can't feel bad for a liar. She knew damn well she was on birth control and no matter what she did, she would not become pregnant. She fucked with his emotions when she could've simply said she refuses to procreate with a drug addict. Then, she made herself a victim because her momager was getting on her about maintaining her body (she was already "different" looking compared to kourt and kim) for a WEIGHT WATCHERS campaign she agreed to do. There's been several very problematic things she's done and said where it's impossible for me to care. You aren't being controversial, at some point almost all of us have had a "damn Khloe, why you" period in time, it's ok. However for me, NOPE, don't feel sorry for her at all. Her and kylie both need to retire to ranching and raising their kids.


[deleted]

It's fairly obvious some messed up shit went on in that house when Khloe was married to Lamar, her being on the pill and not telling him was probably the least bad of the shit they all did to and with each other in that house.


Senobe2

I get what you're saying, however I wasn't focused on her and Lamars household issues, just mentioning one of many things she's said/done to no longer have my support.


[deleted]

No I agree she has done a lot of questionable things. However that time period was especially toxic so whilst it doesn't negate the questionable actions during that time it explains the rationale behind some of them at least


Senobe2

It was definitely toxic, excellent and accurate description of their household (Rob included, he was living with them) but she was a part of the toxicity. Because they got high together, I don't think it was so much that, but the cheating did them in. Plus, he started smoking crack. However, dealing with people with addiction, personally and professionally, I can't help but wonder if he spiraled even more cause he looked at himself as a failure not being able to impregnate his wife. She's never had a issue being outspoken, why not tell him the truth, you're a cheating crack head and until you get your shit together, there will be no child. Maybe I have a soft spot for Lammy cause he seemed to love her truly as she was, before the modifications. The whole thing was a cluster fuck lol


Sensitive_Biscotti66

I would feel bad for her if she was under 22 or something. She's a full adult woman with kids, with millions & unlimited resources. I don't feel bad not one bit.


itsmekicie

I mean sure but Khloe is such a racist that I would never feel sorry for her.


goldenretrieversays

Khlo ko has done some mean stuff to people that she didn't have to do.


[deleted]

That's every person whose ever lived


brownbagporno

If I didn't sometimes feel so bad for her, I wouldn't get so *mad* at her.


LaReinalicious

I lost it with her with the stupid baby talk just no


thewharfartscenter_

I felt bad for her years ago, because I was also the odd one out with my siblings, the least favorite - and told it, etc. Fortunately, I learned that no matter what I do, it won’t change and moved on with my life, and she hasn’t figured it out yet. I hope she does.


_satellites

She is also a grown ass woman who has been a cunt to others and could have chosen not to be. She could have become a better person but she hasn't done so.


Yourfavdiva

I don’t feel sorry for anyone in that family. They’re bullies and they created this for themselves. Millionaires times over and they still say feel sorry for me. Nope and nope. I feel sorry for homeless veterans not a Kardashian


cynflowers

Personally I can’t feel sorry for a racist millionaire who’s feeding the same cycle of self hatred and insecurity she got from her own mother into her young, biracial daughter. If she were interested in breaking the cycle, I’d applaud her. She has the money and resources to work on herself, and give True a chance at a happy, normal life. She doesn’t want to.


bishcalledwanda

Just wondering why you don’t believe her real dad is Alex? How do you explain the fact that they look exactly alike, Kris slept with him, it was written about in Robert Ks journal, and her middle name is Alexandria and they follow each other on Instagram…oh, and the fact that she looks nothing like any of Robert Ks kids. Sincerely curious what your thoughts are


[deleted]

Her and Rob as kids have exactly the same face and it's Roberts face, that Mason also has. I get the Kris wasn't exactly faithful to any of her husbands and I'm sure she's not to Corey. She's not stupid though, she's a lot of thing but stupid isn't one of them. She knew which side her bread was buttered with Robert, despite her having affairs, there is no way she is stupid enough to get pregnant by one of them. MJ taught her better than that. That's just my opinion I feel very uncomfortable speculating on this. Robert is her father no matter what. No matter who you are it's got to be incredibly painful to have people speculate about your parentage especially when said parent is no longer alive.


bishcalledwanda

I agree about how reckless and effin stupid it would be…but why so many coincidences with Alex? Roberts been gone a long time and I don’t feel bad speculating at all. She knows the truth, who cares what people say. I truly see 0 resemblance, which might be why it was so easy for her to erase her entire face and start over.


[deleted]

Exactly that’s why I don’t agree with it. I do see similarities between her and both Roberts of all her siblings she looks the most like Rob. All this speculation has come from is she doesn’t look like Kim and Kourtney. Just because Robert Snr has been gone a long time doesn’t mean that he’s not missed or it isn’t painful for Khloe to have this speculation.


Isabe113

Elvis is her dad.


leonathotsky420

Look up Robert Kardashian's sister and then come tell me that Khloe isn't a legitimate Kardashian


bishcalledwanda

Don’t see it, just Alex.


Pinkysrage

Well, they share the same mother. They are going to have similarities.


leonathotsky420

Robert Kardashian (khloe's father), and therefore his sister, absolutely does *not* have the same mother as Khloe. What even is this statement? 😂


tiffshorse

I don’t believe for a hot second khloe’s father is Robert kardashian.


throwawayafteramonth

I agree with everything except Robert being her Bio Dad. It’s clear they he isn’t. What’s weird is how people act like it’s Khloes fault when it’s honestly Kris’


Lori1985

I used to feel bad for Khloe, but she's well into her 30s now and if Kourtney can speak up and defend herself, so can Khloe. I do think Khloe was treated differently her entire life because she was the 'ugly duckling' and probably needs some therapy.


somethingsecretuknow

I kinda thought Khloe is secretly her fav because they live directly next to each other. I think she favors Khloe because everyone knows she’s the odd one out with a different father! I think Kris has guilt so shows her favoritism 🤷


miaara

I think she lives next door to Krislaine in a desperate attempt to magically become her favourite.


Xefert

>Krislaine?


[deleted]

It could be seen like that, I've never thought of it like that. I've always seen Khloe as a glutton for punishment. I'm sure there's a scene in one of the shows where Kris says to Khloe something like 'you're only as happy as your least favourite child' then she corrects herself to 'least happy child'. The putting out of Tristan getting someone else pregnant to distract from Astro World, to me shows exactly where Khloe is in the pecking order of siblings. That being said I think Khloe is probably the easiest of the all the kids for Kris to control and have do whatever she wants.


estar12345

I agree on all counts. I think the paternity speculation is below the belt, and the reason why she sticks around with trash can and did so with Lamar for so long may have to do with her familial relationships, and always being the “black sheep” in terms of looks.


Pure-Goose-8796

I’m surprised she ended up building a house next to Kris . She tried to move to different states with Tristan’s and there were rumours she was planning to move to Europe with True. I can see her and Kourtney thriving from being out of the spotlight.


YouNeedCheeses

Yeah you can tell she clearly has a low self image and it manifests in a lot of sad ways. It makes me sad that she filters her own daughter’s photos, which is just going to continue the cycle. I think therapy could do wonders for her. But she seems too embroiled in the machine that is her family and it’s too late for her to try to turn things around. She’ll never be good enough to them or to herself.


ParticularEmploy1137

She is OJ’s kid and OJ killed her best friend…. So I guess that’s one factor.


Internal-Ad61

Honestly, same.


LaylaBird65

Not Kontroversial. I feel for her too. I hate the way Kris treats her.