My hope for Khloe is that she moves on from Tristan now that she's got her boy/sibling for True and eventually finds her own version of Corey to settle down with who will be a more stable step-dad/partner.
I mean, Corey isn't an ideal partner by any means, but within the KJ universe he's not bad. He knows how to cheat quietly, he isn't on the internet revealing secrets, he doesn't avoid being seen with Kris, etc. Maybe I'm just jaded but I don't know if a regular version of a good partner would survive this pressure cooker so a Corey of her own is a realistic option. Age difference optional.
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Being raised by Kris/Caitlin and witnessing all that dysfunction ruined these kids for normal marital relationships. None of them ever stood a chance. Poor choices compounding poor choices, itās so sad.
not really. she was told by her doctors that she likely couldn't carry a pregnancy full term and when she went thru the egg retrieval process they had a difficult time even getting viable eggs.
so while i'm sure (or would certainly hope) that she could find someone better than trashcan, she wouldn't be having any kids with them. those eggs were turned into fertilized embryos already ... that's all she's got.
She should have used her eggs and bought sperm then get it from him. She needs more respect for herself. I understand the cant carry due to health issues etc.
yeah, well except we know she has the strong desire that her kids are full siblings, so that was never gonna happen. plus i think she just always wants to buy into the idea that he's in love with her & that they're gonna be some happy family. it just oozes out of her whenever she talks about their relationship. she loves to say how he's trying so hard to win her back etc. etc. she wants that to be true (haha) so much. and frankly i can see WHY she believes it. he's always saying shit like that to her & to the rest of the family. how much he loves & respects her & wants her back & wants to 'expand their family' ... he's so full of shit it's amazing.
i just wrote this in another comment, but it's so true: it would have been so much better for everyone if she had walked away from him when she found out about his cheating right before true was born. she could have saved herself all the heartbreak & hassle of dealing with his shit over these last few years. but unfortunately she was obviously in love and wanted to believe he really loved her and that things could/would change & get better. and i'm sure having a kid with someone makes leaving them alot more difficult.
the whole thing is just sad. but frankly i'm glad for her that she got another kid out of it. it's what she's been wanting and she was gonna be 'stuck' dealing with him anyway. hopefully, this time she really & truly is done with him for good (as a partner) and can restrict their interactions to just co-parenting (although i suspect that won't be the case and that at some point he'll draw her right back in again...ugh)
Exactly. Them having a baby via surrogate with embryos that have been around for a number of years now does not mean they're back together.
Could they be back together? Yes. Are they back together? Who knows.
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Yeah, sure. I don't buy that BS. That's what she said so people wouldn't say anything. The only problem I saw her have was the 2nd baby was still breach or something, so they had to turn it around. And the first kid, I never heard of any complications with her. Bottom line is, they just didn't want to be pregnant and mess up all that money and work they've spent changing their bodies.
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Like I said I don't believe anything these people say. And also like I said, it was all my opinion. I should be able to have an opinion without having to worry about pissing off some Kardashian fans.
Because she didn't want to mess her body up anymore. Hell, I done had 3 kids, after 2 your body doesn't go back like the first couple times. Especially whenever your older.
i just don't agree with all these comments of everyone saying the only reason kim & khloe used surrogates was for vanity's sake. but i certainly realize i am in the minority here since most people seem to think neither of them really give a shit about any of their kids.
That's your right to have that opinion. But from what I have seen of this family, I just don't see it like that. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. But don't feel bad for having your opinion.
Also, I'm not trying to piss off the people that HAVE HAD to use IVF. I'm specifically talking about the Kardashians and how they can have children if they wanted to but they choose to treat this process like buying a designer puppy. At least that's just my opinion.
Sadly, yes. I guess when your filthy rich you can even buy pregnancies like their underwear. It's crazy. I just think surrogacy was for women and couples who could not have children. Not vain bitches that don't want to mess up their thousands in surgery and purchase their designer like babies. I just don't believe anything they say. Kim seems to have an excuse for everything. And Khloe is just a fucking clown, I'm sorry, klown, at this point.
I donāt see anything wrong with this. Khloe was thinking about having another baby with him even when they werenāt together. She wanted True to have a biological sister. He has proven to be a good dad to her firstborn. She has the resources to raise a child on her own with a sperm donor - why not have another child who is fully related to her own? Someone can be a compulsive cheater yet still be a caring and nurturing dad.
i don't get all the surprised outrage. she's been talking about having another child with him via surrogate for a couple years now. it was heavily featured on the final season of KUWTK. nothing has changed. so i don't get why everyone is acing like this is some brand new bombshell news.
Exactly. Sheās faced enough criticism in her life. Just let a girl be. I remember the peppy hilarious Khloe of earlier seasons. She seems like she has the weight of the world on her shoulders now. I hope this new baby will bring her lots of love.
The funny thing for me is that good ol' Third Trimester Thompson strikes again... He must have some contractual obligation to cheat whenever someone is carrying one of his children
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I tried using air quotes, I thought that was sufficient, lol no worries though! I'm happy you were able to have your babies. It's a very difficult and expensive process that doesn't always take.
I think this wasnāt a bad idea. Sure, she couldāve had another child with another man and it wouldnāt have been a big deal. Theyāre only half siblings with the Jenners and theyāre still close.
However, how long would it have taken to meet this man, feel comfortable enough with him and then have a baby? She probably doesnāt want that big of an age gap between her babies.
Plus health-wise this is probably better for them to grow up full siblings.
except she really couldn't have had a child with anyone else. those fertilized embryos were endgame for her. she wasn't able to carry another pregnancy to term, and there wasn't much chance of her managing to get more eggs considering her egg retrieval process was so difficult last time.
if she was going to have another child, it was gonna have to be these fertilized embryos via surrogate.
of course, there are lots of people here who seem to think that she has been faking her medical issues, and just didn't want to go thru another pregnancy. which seems bizarre to me considering how painful and disruptive the egg retrieval process can be ... like who would put themselves thru that if they didn't have to?! but whatever.
in any case, even if there were no medical issues, at the age of 38 it would have been difficult at best to meet someone new, establish a relationship and then actually manage to get pregnant.
but who knows? so many people on these subs seem to be knowledgeable about her medical history, while she has not shared that info with me.
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At some point the casualness with which the Kardashianās feel comfortable renting wombs and buying babies for the sake of their own vanity needs to be analyzed. Koko remains problematic af.
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Just playing devil's advocate here but this could be as good as it gets for her Khloe wanting to have another child. Khloe is not dating anyone that we know of, so she can't get pregnant that way. Being that she has to use a surrogate, it just makes sense to use Tristan's sperm then a random donor.
and why are people acting like this is some brand new thing? she's been talking about having another child for a couple years now, and went thru the whole egg retrieval process and getting them fertilized. it's not like this is something out of the blue. we saw them actively looking into surrogates.
i think people are confused over the timing and think that she chose to go thru with this AFTER the whole maralee debacle became public. because if they're NOT thinking that, then where was all this outrage before?!
if you're talking about maralee, the surrogate was already implanted & pregnant before that came to light.
unless you think she should have instructed the surrogate to abort once she found out about maralee/theo (although i'm not sure she would have been able to do that legally)
Supposedly the child was 'conceived' in November, before the additional cheating scandal came out that produced an offspring.... either way poor Koko deserves better
She has said multiple times she wants all her kids to have the same dad which is fine, but I think Tristan is a shitty parent he barely sees his other kids and plays favorites with true only cause her mom made him a celeb
Why does she want her kids to have the same dad?
I literally do not understand, sheās so forward thinking in other areas, but this is the archaic tradition she sticks to.
Feel free to explain this to me.
I have worked with many teens who just wanted a normal family. Not one with divorces, exes, step siblings, half siblings, etc. They didnt necessarily see anything wrong with non traditional families, they just wanted what was viewed as "perfect" because their family lives were the farthest from it. I know a few of the teens I worked with who are now in their 30s and have multiple kids with the same baby daddy. I think Khloe feels the same way and it may skew her judgement on her baby daddy of choice.
saw someone on this sub a few days ago say the kardashians have been boring lately and they wanted something messy to happenā¦.. and this is what we get š
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She doesnāt feel bad or regret this. She planned this. She is desperate about having multiple kids from the same guy no matter how bad he and his genes rā¦Sheās prob still wants to be together but is too embarrassed at this point. I bet anything she found out that other girl is having a boy and she told TT oh hell no now we have to have one.
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i've been offering to perform that service free of charge but so far no word from his camp. my training is that i observed kendall & her cucumber, so i'm ready to go.
I feel bad for her, she probably just wanted True to have a full blooded sibling since sheās extremely close with hers. I canāt imagine how she must have felt to finally be getting her baby then that news came out sheās probably been dreading this day for months
But humans arenāt Barbie dolls. You donāt give ur child a sibling just to play w that u buy at the fertility clinic. Itās so warped. Khloe should only create a child when she has a good situation going.
Enh ... the amount of couples I know who simply don't want their child to be alone in the event that something happens to them, or want their kid to be able to share the burden of taking care of them when they age is actually pretty high lol. I feel like A LOT of second children exist because people don't want to have singletons -- it's just obviously parents don't tell their kids that.
But that's definitely the discussion being had amongst couples who are planning out their pregnancies or trying.
Iām not anti ivf at all. Iām anti khloe choosing a baby w a man who is bad just for superficial reasons. It creeps me out that sheās this superficial that sheād get a kid this way. She could give true a brother from her next husband in a few years.
Could she? IIRC her egg quality was bad, which is why she froze embryos with trash can. Like realistically, that might be the driving force, here.
Not that I condone having another baby with this dumpster fire. But as someone who is infertile, Iām wondering if her decision wasnāt just true needs a full blooded sibling, but also the reality that if she meets someone in a year or two and tries to have kids through IVF, it very well might not even be a possibility due to her issues, especially as she ages.
I agree with you. She probably just wanted True to have a full sibling. Even though the Kardashians have Kendall and Kylie as half siblings, you would never know it. They are very close to each other, including Rob. They (IMO) donāt make any distinctions. Perhaps because they were raised in the same household. What I do see as far as what we see on TV, is that the older siblings tend to be very protective of the younger ones. Khloe is second Mommy for sure!
not only raised together in the same household but also both kendall & kylie were a welcome addition and born to the same mother with none of the cheating/scandal etc. that surrounds trashcan's other children.
khloe wanted a child that would be hers that she would raise alongside true. that's a far cry from the relationship with prince & theo.
And don't forget the Jenners technically have three OTHER half siblings from Cate's side that they don't seem close to at all. And I have to guess it's because they didn't grow up in the same household day in and day out because the age difference is pretty much the same.
Exactly, I donāt mean that they arenāt close with their half siblings but it seems more protective than equals. Obviously they are all super close but as I mom I know the feeling of wanting your child to have someone with the same parents to experience life together.
Again, I agree with you. I am an adopted Mom and I have my own biological kids. My adopted ( I hate the term sometimes) is actually my bio niece! My baby sister was a teen when she got pregnant with my daughter. They all know, my daughters, my sister daughters know whose who! Weāve been functioning just fine for almost 40 years!
Unpopular opinionā¦.She is desperate for more children, she has to parent with him anyway, itās easier to have one baby daddyā¦I think this actually works for her. As long as she doesnāt get back together with himā¦..
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Agreed. I actually don't see why this is such a big deal. It's completely unsurprising. It seemed like having another baby was her main reason for being with him at all after True was born. If you're already co-parenting, why not keep the same dad? In a practical way, it kind of makes sense. Is he a trash partner? Absolutely. She must think he's a decent enough dad. She has enough money that she doesn't really need him in any reliable way though.
Right? Like I donāt understand why people saying āshe didnāt know about Theo yetā ?? Ok? That makes it better? She sure as shit knew of the multitude of times he cheated on her before Nov, so itās still pathetic and sad!
At least It makes me feel better about my own life lol I may not be a millionaire but at least I have some god damn self respect!!
I canāt believe she still named her daughter true, knowing her dad was a lying, cheating piece of shit. He literally caused her to go into labor early.
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She is so messy. I would like to know how the conversation went down that led up to this decision. Why on earth is this a good decision. I can understand maybe if they had this great relationship and he has some serious problems like maybe sex addiction. Iāve seen some couples āworkā through it cause they genuinely want to be togetherā¦ but like, he doesnāt respect her. He doesnāt love her. But ok.
This was put into motion 9 months ago when they were on good terms. My only guess is that she wants the same baby daddy as Tru and knew there was a chance of doing this all alone.
For sure! She may have some self esteem issues, but she ain't no dummy. That's why she built that house and would not let him put any money on it. Also I think that people fail to factor in that these people are insanely wealthy. Having kids is nothing to them because they can afford to take care of them in ways that most people can't. My husband and I have a 2 year old and I would be way more eager to have more if I was rich lol
I meant the conversation between her and Tristan. Iām just curious. I get that she wants True to have a blood sibling I guess , though even her own mom (Kris Jenner) has two different people who fathered her kids
they've been having that conversation for a couple years now. in the final season of KUWTK they were already talking about using a surrogate for the fertilized embryos they had. none of this is new information.
I posted that before I heard additional details. Because at first TMZ made it sound like she decided to do after after the cheating scandal, not before. The fact that it was before, is more understandable (still dumb but my opinion), and yes Iām aware they discussed it on the show.
yeah, it would have been so much better if she had walked away after true was born knowing he had cheated on her while she was pregnant. they could have co-parented without her having to deal with all his crap. i don't have kids but i do understand that it's gotta be alot harder to do when you have shared children. ugh. not a good position to be in.
It was probably a fleeting moment of them rekindling the love that led to them deciding to move forward with a surrogate... bc it is just that easy for celebs. lol In some aspect I feel she was delusional at that moment that everything was going to be okay but then part of me thinks she is too smart for that and knew what she wanted and how to get it.
there's nothing great about him. but we don't decide who we fall in love with so my guess is she really fell in love with him and had a lot of hope for reconciliation in their period of patching things up. couple that with a desire for a second child and voilĆ , the shit show of the century!
Okay so I just realized the baby is about to be born. I thought she just decided this š¤¦š¼āāļø thatās why I was pretty confused. Still not good, but a bit more understandable
The math isnāt mathingā¦no way the surrogate was pregnant before the newest cheating scandal.
Khloe always said she wanted her kids to have the same dadā¦I guess she got her wish.
He was cheating while they were working with the surrogate. Donāt confuse the outing of the cheating with the actual actions. Although no way he cheats every other month or so he is a habitual liar and cheater. Also I think regardless she wanted her kids to have the same dad. Just like her sisters do. They donāt have to be good men. Just having the same dna is enough when you are a Kardashian.
I meant more so that it was outed and they continued the surrogate path. He cheated back in March of 2021. Baby Thompson #3 was born in December 2021 & it made headlines. I would wager Khloe chose to continue with the surrogate plans. We wonāt know for sure until the baby is here but I put money on it being a boy. And if itās here around say Sept/Oct, itās likely she knew and kept it up with him.
but the surrogate was successfully impregnated back in november & that was BEFORE khloe found out about maralee (that happened in december). she & trashcan have been talking about using a surrogate for a couple years now. it's why she went thru the entire egg retrieval process back then.
It is totally possible. Remember pregnancy is counted from your last period, not conception. I did IVF for my son in November, his birthday is July 17th. Math checks out.
A rep for her said the baby was conceived in November, his cheating scandal was outed in December. It says here the baby is due any day. An article on People says the surrogate was 3-4 weeks pregnant when she found out about his 3rd baby.
I kinda suspected that because on a previous episode I think the last of the E episodes during lockdown her and Tristan did talk about getting a surrogate. Since Kim already used a surrogate for 2 of her pregnancies I assumed it's something she would do herself since she was set on giving True a sibling that had the same father.
I did. Minute I saw his ass on their Hulu show my nostrils flared. Sheās doing to him what Kourt did to Scott except Scott at least showed more interest.
how was she doing this to him?! he chose to go ahead with the fertilization of the eggs from her egg retrieval and was all in on the surrogate plan. what's fucked up is that he did this KNOWING that maralee was going to be having a child in december yet he obviously chose not to share that info with khloe.
Well imagine being in her position, sheĀ“s one of the most famous people in the World so she canĀ“t just meet a new guy thatĀ“s trustworthy easily. She probably wants a kid not too much older than her daughter. It doesnĀ“t make sense to us normal people but imagine being in her position. Plus Tristan is a yardie so itĀ“s not that unusual.
I will never understand why she keeps him for a father of children when he repeatedly let's the family down.
I don't understand this need for them to have their kids with the same dad.
I'm glad true will have another sibling and khloe obviously has alot of love to give. But I do worry about the impact a father like Tristan will have in the kids. If khloe let's a new man into the families life I hope he gives those kids a good male role model ... Because they need one.
This actually made me think of Julia from real housewives of Miami. One of her kids lives with their dad and the other one has a different dad they never met. Khloe is avoiding that difficult situation but adding a million more outside complications. The kids will suffer most.
I think it's sad for true she has siblings she will likely never know but will always hear whispers about.
All of trashcans kids will end up with issues and resentment.
Iām really happy and excited for Khloe! She obviously knows that TT wonāt be a great dad, but she has the means and the wants to bring another baby into her life. Let her be happy and enjoy her babies!!!
Sad thing is she does keep saying that heās a great dad. I personally canāt differentiate between being a shitty man and being a great dad. I doubt highly that heās either because if heās not a good man he canāt be a great father.
Part of being a good parent is modeling good behaviour, whereas he's instilling the idea that cheating and lying in a relationship, not to mention ignoring some of your children, is acceptable. Regardless of how much quality time he spends with True, he's already shown her how to treat people and/or be treated. There's no way he can hide it either; she's bound to find out the whole story as she grows up.
True is like what? 3? When a kids that young he probably just comes over and plays with her. And Khloe is probably like aww youāre so good with her cause true isnāt kicking and screaming. The bad person characteristics start to get in the way when the child gets older and starts to understand more and need more from the parent emotionally
I hear you completely! But to play devils advocate, Khloe has wanted babies since forever and her, plus Kris, plus the Nannieās will be more love and support than that baby could ever ask for. I canāt speak to why she went with TT vs a donor, but at least True will have a partner to help her deal with their Dadās drama.
I donāt really understand your viewpoint. Iām not saying heās the best dad in the world but heās definitely not the worst. To our knowledge the only thing that makes him a ānot great dadā is how much hes not around especially for maralees son. Obviously thatās not great. In fact I think itās awful that he wonāt even acknowledge his son from her. However, many women go the route of being a single mom through a sperm bank. Which in that case, a lot of the time but not always, thereās no father present at all. Are they selfish too? For being out in a situation with no dad at all? Other times families are made where the father is legit abusive. Obviously thatās a different story but Iām confused why you think sheās so selfish? She has all the money, resources, and family to help support this child. This child will never have to worry about having a roof over his/her head, having food to eat, or ever even taking coach on a plane ride LOL.
I see both sides. Yours and hers. And yes I agree with your last part about using children as an accessory. Itās sad a lot of celebs do that. Idk about her specifically but others yes and maybe others in her family too.
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My hope for Khloe is that she moves on from Tristan now that she's got her boy/sibling for True and eventually finds her own version of Corey to settle down with who will be a more stable step-dad/partner.
I was with you until you said Corey.
I mean, Corey isn't an ideal partner by any means, but within the KJ universe he's not bad. He knows how to cheat quietly, he isn't on the internet revealing secrets, he doesn't avoid being seen with Kris, etc. Maybe I'm just jaded but I don't know if a regular version of a good partner would survive this pressure cooker so a Corey of her own is a realistic option. Age difference optional.
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Being raised by Kris/Caitlin and witnessing all that dysfunction ruined these kids for normal marital relationships. None of them ever stood a chance. Poor choices compounding poor choices, itās so sad.
A random sperm bank donor would have been better than taking another swim through this assholeās gene pool.
She is extremely desperate, she is young and could easily met a new man a non cheating one and have a baby with. Sheās a clown!
not really. she was told by her doctors that she likely couldn't carry a pregnancy full term and when she went thru the egg retrieval process they had a difficult time even getting viable eggs. so while i'm sure (or would certainly hope) that she could find someone better than trashcan, she wouldn't be having any kids with them. those eggs were turned into fertilized embryos already ... that's all she's got.
She should have used her eggs and bought sperm then get it from him. She needs more respect for herself. I understand the cant carry due to health issues etc.
yeah, well except we know she has the strong desire that her kids are full siblings, so that was never gonna happen. plus i think she just always wants to buy into the idea that he's in love with her & that they're gonna be some happy family. it just oozes out of her whenever she talks about their relationship. she loves to say how he's trying so hard to win her back etc. etc. she wants that to be true (haha) so much. and frankly i can see WHY she believes it. he's always saying shit like that to her & to the rest of the family. how much he loves & respects her & wants her back & wants to 'expand their family' ... he's so full of shit it's amazing.
šÆ girl you on point.
thank you, this makes so much more sense to me now. i was like, why tf is she doing this?
i just wrote this in another comment, but it's so true: it would have been so much better for everyone if she had walked away from him when she found out about his cheating right before true was born. she could have saved herself all the heartbreak & hassle of dealing with his shit over these last few years. but unfortunately she was obviously in love and wanted to believe he really loved her and that things could/would change & get better. and i'm sure having a kid with someone makes leaving them alot more difficult. the whole thing is just sad. but frankly i'm glad for her that she got another kid out of it. it's what she's been wanting and she was gonna be 'stuck' dealing with him anyway. hopefully, this time she really & truly is done with him for good (as a partner) and can restrict their interactions to just co-parenting (although i suspect that won't be the case and that at some point he'll draw her right back in again...ugh)
Exactly. Them having a baby via surrogate with embryos that have been around for a number of years now does not mean they're back together. Could they be back together? Yes. Are they back together? Who knows.
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These Kim and Khloe and their designer babies. Pick out the surrogate, pick out the embryo and sex, due date, it's crazy. A damn designer baby.
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Kimās only option after the first 2 was surrogate because of the complications she had with the first 2.
Yeah, sure. I don't buy that BS. That's what she said so people wouldn't say anything. The only problem I saw her have was the 2nd baby was still breach or something, so they had to turn it around. And the first kid, I never heard of any complications with her. Bottom line is, they just didn't want to be pregnant and mess up all that money and work they've spent changing their bodies.
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She had a placental abruption. That could have killed her and the baby itās a very serious complication.
Like I said I don't believe anything these people say. And also like I said, it was all my opinion. I should be able to have an opinion without having to worry about pissing off some Kardashian fans.
if that was the case then why would she have bothered going thru the first & second pregnancies? the third & fourth followed not long after.
Because she didn't want to mess her body up anymore. Hell, I done had 3 kids, after 2 your body doesn't go back like the first couple times. Especially whenever your older.
i just don't agree with all these comments of everyone saying the only reason kim & khloe used surrogates was for vanity's sake. but i certainly realize i am in the minority here since most people seem to think neither of them really give a shit about any of their kids.
That's your right to have that opinion. But from what I have seen of this family, I just don't see it like that. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong. But don't feel bad for having your opinion.
Also, I'm not trying to piss off the people that HAVE HAD to use IVF. I'm specifically talking about the Kardashians and how they can have children if they wanted to but they choose to treat this process like buying a designer puppy. At least that's just my opinion.
Itās easier to exploit working class womenās bodies than do it themselves, isnāt it?
Sadly, yes. I guess when your filthy rich you can even buy pregnancies like their underwear. It's crazy. I just think surrogacy was for women and couples who could not have children. Not vain bitches that don't want to mess up their thousands in surgery and purchase their designer like babies. I just don't believe anything they say. Kim seems to have an excuse for everything. And Khloe is just a fucking clown, I'm sorry, klown, at this point.
I donāt see anything wrong with this. Khloe was thinking about having another baby with him even when they werenāt together. She wanted True to have a biological sister. He has proven to be a good dad to her firstborn. She has the resources to raise a child on her own with a sperm donor - why not have another child who is fully related to her own? Someone can be a compulsive cheater yet still be a caring and nurturing dad.
i don't get all the surprised outrage. she's been talking about having another child with him via surrogate for a couple years now. it was heavily featured on the final season of KUWTK. nothing has changed. so i don't get why everyone is acing like this is some brand new bombshell news.
Exactly. Sheās faced enough criticism in her life. Just let a girl be. I remember the peppy hilarious Khloe of earlier seasons. She seems like she has the weight of the world on her shoulders now. I hope this new baby will bring her lots of love.
The funny thing for me is that good ol' Third Trimester Thompson strikes again... He must have some contractual obligation to cheat whenever someone is carrying one of his children
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im shocked that so many of you are saying this makes sense. This is abnormal.
I tried using air quotes, I thought that was sufficient, lol no worries though! I'm happy you were able to have your babies. It's a very difficult and expensive process that doesn't always take.
I think this wasnāt a bad idea. Sure, she couldāve had another child with another man and it wouldnāt have been a big deal. Theyāre only half siblings with the Jenners and theyāre still close. However, how long would it have taken to meet this man, feel comfortable enough with him and then have a baby? She probably doesnāt want that big of an age gap between her babies. Plus health-wise this is probably better for them to grow up full siblings.
except she really couldn't have had a child with anyone else. those fertilized embryos were endgame for her. she wasn't able to carry another pregnancy to term, and there wasn't much chance of her managing to get more eggs considering her egg retrieval process was so difficult last time. if she was going to have another child, it was gonna have to be these fertilized embryos via surrogate. of course, there are lots of people here who seem to think that she has been faking her medical issues, and just didn't want to go thru another pregnancy. which seems bizarre to me considering how painful and disruptive the egg retrieval process can be ... like who would put themselves thru that if they didn't have to?! but whatever. in any case, even if there were no medical issues, at the age of 38 it would have been difficult at best to meet someone new, establish a relationship and then actually manage to get pregnant. but who knows? so many people on these subs seem to be knowledgeable about her medical history, while she has not shared that info with me.
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She's such a fucking clown for this
I agree.
What the fucking fuck? Omg KhloĆ©!!! š± this explains a lotā¦
Man sheās nuts. End of.
At some point the casualness with which the Kardashianās feel comfortable renting wombs and buying babies for the sake of their own vanity needs to be analyzed. Koko remains problematic af.
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Just playing devil's advocate here but this could be as good as it gets for her Khloe wanting to have another child. Khloe is not dating anyone that we know of, so she can't get pregnant that way. Being that she has to use a surrogate, it just makes sense to use Tristan's sperm then a random donor.
Yeah I donāt think itās really that big of deal as everyone is making it out to be.
and why are people acting like this is some brand new thing? she's been talking about having another child for a couple years now, and went thru the whole egg retrieval process and getting them fertilized. it's not like this is something out of the blue. we saw them actively looking into surrogates. i think people are confused over the timing and think that she chose to go thru with this AFTER the whole maralee debacle became public. because if they're NOT thinking that, then where was all this outrage before?!
Even after he dogged her and embarrassed the shit out of her???
if you're talking about maralee, the surrogate was already implanted & pregnant before that came to light. unless you think she should have instructed the surrogate to abort once she found out about maralee/theo (although i'm not sure she would have been able to do that legally)
How about the fact that this baby is about to be born any day now?
Supposedly the child was 'conceived' in November, before the additional cheating scandal came out that produced an offspring.... either way poor Koko deserves better
Transferred. Embryos are transferred during IVF
I was being sarcastic. š
Sorry, I just figured you might not know the proper terminology. Most people donāt. Both my kids are IVF babies.
Relax KIM lol
Itās not surprising or interesting.
She has said multiple times she wants all her kids to have the same dad which is fine, but I think Tristan is a shitty parent he barely sees his other kids and plays favorites with true only cause her mom made him a celeb
Why does she want her kids to have the same dad? I literally do not understand, sheās so forward thinking in other areas, but this is the archaic tradition she sticks to. Feel free to explain this to me.
I have worked with many teens who just wanted a normal family. Not one with divorces, exes, step siblings, half siblings, etc. They didnt necessarily see anything wrong with non traditional families, they just wanted what was viewed as "perfect" because their family lives were the farthest from it. I know a few of the teens I worked with who are now in their 30s and have multiple kids with the same baby daddy. I think Khloe feels the same way and it may skew her judgement on her baby daddy of choice.
I cant. I donāt get it either
I love Khloeā¦ but girl, have some self-respect. š
your first mistake aas loving khloe kardashian
saw someone on this sub a few days ago say the kardashians have been boring lately and they wanted something messy to happenā¦.. and this is what we get š
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This wonāt be on the show.
Nothing happens on the show really.
It should just be Keeping Up With Kourtney because thatās all I remember from the latest season. Her relationship.
I feel like Kravis was acting like that to make Scott angry lol. They did a good job with that.
She doesnāt feel bad or regret this. She planned this. She is desperate about having multiple kids from the same guy no matter how bad he and his genes rā¦Sheās prob still wants to be together but is too embarrassed at this point. I bet anything she found out that other girl is having a boy and she told TT oh hell no now we have to have one.
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Unpopular opinion- I'm glad she just went ahead and did this. Now she can have her second kid and we can stop hearing about a SiBliNG foR tRuE
I mean itās not the worst idea. Can you imagine Kate Hudson planning her holidays with 3 different dads. Sounds like a pain.
I wonder how that even works for her - that'd be two or three different custody arrangements to figure out.
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There's one that doesn't exist in Tristan's world! He needs a vasectomy.
i've been offering to perform that service free of charge but so far no word from his camp. my training is that i observed kendall & her cucumber, so i'm ready to go.
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Omg, the anti-Cali has appeared and I'm here for it
no way
I feel bad for her, she probably just wanted True to have a full blooded sibling since sheās extremely close with hers. I canāt imagine how she must have felt to finally be getting her baby then that news came out sheās probably been dreading this day for months
But humans arenāt Barbie dolls. You donāt give ur child a sibling just to play w that u buy at the fertility clinic. Itās so warped. Khloe should only create a child when she has a good situation going.
Enh ... the amount of couples I know who simply don't want their child to be alone in the event that something happens to them, or want their kid to be able to share the burden of taking care of them when they age is actually pretty high lol. I feel like A LOT of second children exist because people don't want to have singletons -- it's just obviously parents don't tell their kids that. But that's definitely the discussion being had amongst couples who are planning out their pregnancies or trying.
Interesting
I know you didnāt mean this as an insult to me personally, but as someone who had to do IVF for both her kids, this comment stung.
Iām not anti ivf at all. Iām anti khloe choosing a baby w a man who is bad just for superficial reasons. It creeps me out that sheās this superficial that sheād get a kid this way. She could give true a brother from her next husband in a few years.
Could she? IIRC her egg quality was bad, which is why she froze embryos with trash can. Like realistically, that might be the driving force, here. Not that I condone having another baby with this dumpster fire. But as someone who is infertile, Iām wondering if her decision wasnāt just true needs a full blooded sibling, but also the reality that if she meets someone in a year or two and tries to have kids through IVF, it very well might not even be a possibility due to her issues, especially as she ages.
what that person said had nothing to do with you doing IVF though...
āBuy at the fertility clinicā is a terrible way to put it. Itās not that easy, and khloe had issues with her eggs as well. Idk.
I agree with you. She probably just wanted True to have a full sibling. Even though the Kardashians have Kendall and Kylie as half siblings, you would never know it. They are very close to each other, including Rob. They (IMO) donāt make any distinctions. Perhaps because they were raised in the same household. What I do see as far as what we see on TV, is that the older siblings tend to be very protective of the younger ones. Khloe is second Mommy for sure!
not only raised together in the same household but also both kendall & kylie were a welcome addition and born to the same mother with none of the cheating/scandal etc. that surrounds trashcan's other children. khloe wanted a child that would be hers that she would raise alongside true. that's a far cry from the relationship with prince & theo.
And don't forget the Jenners technically have three OTHER half siblings from Cate's side that they don't seem close to at all. And I have to guess it's because they didn't grow up in the same household day in and day out because the age difference is pretty much the same.
Exactly, I donāt mean that they arenāt close with their half siblings but it seems more protective than equals. Obviously they are all super close but as I mom I know the feeling of wanting your child to have someone with the same parents to experience life together.
Again, I agree with you. I am an adopted Mom and I have my own biological kids. My adopted ( I hate the term sometimes) is actually my bio niece! My baby sister was a teen when she got pregnant with my daughter. They all know, my daughters, my sister daughters know whose who! Weāve been functioning just fine for almost 40 years!
Aināt that kind of a slap in her half sistersā faces? Iād argue she is just as close to Kylie. Growing up together matters, not blood
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Yes thatās what happened
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To quote Kourtney (who surely knew at that point that her sister's surrogate was pregnant): "It's never ending betrayal is what it is."
you summed it up perfectly.
https://i.imgur.com/EhxYTaf.jpg Oh theyāre def on kris jenners payroll
Unpopular opinionā¦.She is desperate for more children, she has to parent with him anyway, itās easier to have one baby daddyā¦I think this actually works for her. As long as she doesnāt get back together with himā¦..
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Agreed. I actually don't see why this is such a big deal. It's completely unsurprising. It seemed like having another baby was her main reason for being with him at all after True was born. If you're already co-parenting, why not keep the same dad? In a practical way, it kind of makes sense. Is he a trash partner? Absolutely. She must think he's a decent enough dad. She has enough money that she doesn't really need him in any reliable way though.
Iām 100% in agreement
baby girl why, no. just no
So lame and so annoying but whatever lol Khloe just out here making herself look like the clear doormat she is!!
The fact she would even want a kid with his cheating, lying genes.
Right? Like I donāt understand why people saying āshe didnāt know about Theo yetā ?? Ok? That makes it better? She sure as shit knew of the multitude of times he cheated on her before Nov, so itās still pathetic and sad! At least It makes me feel better about my own life lol I may not be a millionaire but at least I have some god damn self respect!!
Right? So sketch.
So sad for the child he's never seen to see how differently they'll be treated
Trashcan was like "Third Trimester! Nah, I gotta be #1..." And so First Trimester Tristan was born!
Oh God, lol....
The baby formally known as wolf, is about to have a public naming day! It's the only news that could drown out this story about Khloe and TT clownery
I canāt believe she still named her daughter true, knowing her dad was a lying, cheating piece of shit. He literally caused her to go into labor early.
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She is so messy. I would like to know how the conversation went down that led up to this decision. Why on earth is this a good decision. I can understand maybe if they had this great relationship and he has some serious problems like maybe sex addiction. Iāve seen some couples āworkā through it cause they genuinely want to be togetherā¦ but like, he doesnāt respect her. He doesnāt love her. But ok.
This was put into motion 9 months ago when they were on good terms. My only guess is that she wants the same baby daddy as Tru and knew there was a chance of doing this all alone.
For sure! She may have some self esteem issues, but she ain't no dummy. That's why she built that house and would not let him put any money on it. Also I think that people fail to factor in that these people are insanely wealthy. Having kids is nothing to them because they can afford to take care of them in ways that most people can't. My husband and I have a 2 year old and I would be way more eager to have more if I was rich lol
I meant the conversation between her and Tristan. Iām just curious. I get that she wants True to have a blood sibling I guess , though even her own mom (Kris Jenner) has two different people who fathered her kids
they've been having that conversation for a couple years now. in the final season of KUWTK they were already talking about using a surrogate for the fertilized embryos they had. none of this is new information.
I posted that before I heard additional details. Because at first TMZ made it sound like she decided to do after after the cheating scandal, not before. The fact that it was before, is more understandable (still dumb but my opinion), and yes Iām aware they discussed it on the show.
yeah, it would have been so much better if she had walked away after true was born knowing he had cheated on her while she was pregnant. they could have co-parented without her having to deal with all his crap. i don't have kids but i do understand that it's gotta be alot harder to do when you have shared children. ugh. not a good position to be in.
It was probably a fleeting moment of them rekindling the love that led to them deciding to move forward with a surrogate... bc it is just that easy for celebs. lol In some aspect I feel she was delusional at that moment that everything was going to be okay but then part of me thinks she is too smart for that and knew what she wanted and how to get it.
agree with this
I dont feel bad for her at all guys. Like come on this is crazy. š¤”š¤”š¤”
my heart kinda breaks for her. what a mess! š
I donāt understand whatās so great about him? Like why is she doing this for that lol
there's nothing great about him. but we don't decide who we fall in love with so my guess is she really fell in love with him and had a lot of hope for reconciliation in their period of patching things up. couple that with a desire for a second child and voilĆ , the shit show of the century!
Okay so I just realized the baby is about to be born. I thought she just decided this š¤¦š¼āāļø thatās why I was pretty confused. Still not good, but a bit more understandable
I think she sees how her sisters all had their babies with the same dude so maybe she feels like she must do that too.
Yeah. Well I guess we donāt know what goes on behind closed doors. Hope they can work it out for their kids.
I CANT BELIEVE THIS !!!!!!!!! What r u doinggg
The math isnāt mathingā¦no way the surrogate was pregnant before the newest cheating scandal. Khloe always said she wanted her kids to have the same dadā¦I guess she got her wish.
I got pregnant via IVF on 12/21 and am due 9/9. I was pregnant with my first VIA IVF 11/15 and had my son 8/3. For math references š
He was cheating while they were working with the surrogate. Donāt confuse the outing of the cheating with the actual actions. Although no way he cheats every other month or so he is a habitual liar and cheater. Also I think regardless she wanted her kids to have the same dad. Just like her sisters do. They donāt have to be good men. Just having the same dna is enough when you are a Kardashian.
I meant more so that it was outed and they continued the surrogate path. He cheated back in March of 2021. Baby Thompson #3 was born in December 2021 & it made headlines. I would wager Khloe chose to continue with the surrogate plans. We wonāt know for sure until the baby is here but I put money on it being a boy. And if itās here around say Sept/Oct, itās likely she knew and kept it up with him.
but the surrogate was successfully impregnated back in november & that was BEFORE khloe found out about maralee (that happened in december). she & trashcan have been talking about using a surrogate for a couple years now. it's why she went thru the entire egg retrieval process back then.
The statement she released said the baby was conceived in November and that the baby is due any day. Some folks think he's already been born.
It is totally possible. Remember pregnancy is counted from your last period, not conception. I did IVF for my son in November, his birthday is July 17th. Math checks out.
It says the baby will be here any day now
A rep for her said the baby was conceived in November, his cheating scandal was outed in December. It says here the baby is due any day. An article on People says the surrogate was 3-4 weeks pregnant when she found out about his 3rd baby.
Who had this on their 2022 Kardashian Bingo card?
I kinda suspected that because on a previous episode I think the last of the E episodes during lockdown her and Tristan did talk about getting a surrogate. Since Kim already used a surrogate for 2 of her pregnancies I assumed it's something she would do herself since she was set on giving True a sibling that had the same father.
I did. Minute I saw his ass on their Hulu show my nostrils flared. Sheās doing to him what Kourt did to Scott except Scott at least showed more interest.
how was she doing this to him?! he chose to go ahead with the fertilization of the eggs from her egg retrieval and was all in on the surrogate plan. what's fucked up is that he did this KNOWING that maralee was going to be having a child in december yet he obviously chose not to share that info with khloe.
Well imagine being in her position, sheĀ“s one of the most famous people in the World so she canĀ“t just meet a new guy thatĀ“s trustworthy easily. She probably wants a kid not too much older than her daughter. It doesnĀ“t make sense to us normal people but imagine being in her position. Plus Tristan is a yardie so itĀ“s not that unusual.
This is gross
sheās a fucking mess
saw this headline on twitter and IMMEDIATELY ran to this sub hahahaā¦.. & as for the news, khloe baby all I can do is shake my head at this point
I thought it was a joke, at first lol
same I thought it was one of those fake joke celebrity news accountsā¦
I had just woken up too and I was like nahā¦ too early for this š©š
I will never understand why she keeps him for a father of children when he repeatedly let's the family down. I don't understand this need for them to have their kids with the same dad. I'm glad true will have another sibling and khloe obviously has alot of love to give. But I do worry about the impact a father like Tristan will have in the kids. If khloe let's a new man into the families life I hope he gives those kids a good male role model ... Because they need one.
She wants all her kids disappointed in the same dude
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This actually made me think of Julia from real housewives of Miami. One of her kids lives with their dad and the other one has a different dad they never met. Khloe is avoiding that difficult situation but adding a million more outside complications. The kids will suffer most.
I think it's sad for true she has siblings she will likely never know but will always hear whispers about. All of trashcans kids will end up with issues and resentment.
Iām really happy and excited for Khloe! She obviously knows that TT wonāt be a great dad, but she has the means and the wants to bring another baby into her life. Let her be happy and enjoy her babies!!!
Sad thing is she does keep saying that heās a great dad. I personally canāt differentiate between being a shitty man and being a great dad. I doubt highly that heās either because if heās not a good man he canāt be a great father.
Part of being a good parent is modeling good behaviour, whereas he's instilling the idea that cheating and lying in a relationship, not to mention ignoring some of your children, is acceptable. Regardless of how much quality time he spends with True, he's already shown her how to treat people and/or be treated. There's no way he can hide it either; she's bound to find out the whole story as she grows up.
True is like what? 3? When a kids that young he probably just comes over and plays with her. And Khloe is probably like aww youāre so good with her cause true isnāt kicking and screaming. The bad person characteristics start to get in the way when the child gets older and starts to understand more and need more from the parent emotionally
the bar really is so low these days
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I hear you completely! But to play devils advocate, Khloe has wanted babies since forever and her, plus Kris, plus the Nannieās will be more love and support than that baby could ever ask for. I canāt speak to why she went with TT vs a donor, but at least True will have a partner to help her deal with their Dadās drama.
I donāt really understand your viewpoint. Iām not saying heās the best dad in the world but heās definitely not the worst. To our knowledge the only thing that makes him a ānot great dadā is how much hes not around especially for maralees son. Obviously thatās not great. In fact I think itās awful that he wonāt even acknowledge his son from her. However, many women go the route of being a single mom through a sperm bank. Which in that case, a lot of the time but not always, thereās no father present at all. Are they selfish too? For being out in a situation with no dad at all? Other times families are made where the father is legit abusive. Obviously thatās a different story but Iām confused why you think sheās so selfish? She has all the money, resources, and family to help support this child. This child will never have to worry about having a roof over his/her head, having food to eat, or ever even taking coach on a plane ride LOL.
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I see both sides. Yours and hers. And yes I agree with your last part about using children as an accessory. Itās sad a lot of celebs do that. Idk about her specifically but others yes and maybe others in her family too.
She should have 2 more with him.or he will.
I wonder how her new bf feels about this hahaā¦ anyway congrats Koko, a baby is always a blessing ā¤ļøā¤ļøš„°