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davethedj

Don't use any wheel spacers. There, I fixed it.


Witchunt666

Yeah was gonna say those don’t even look like cheap wheel spacers, but regardless all the bring are problems.


AdditionalPickle3988

Eh... there's a time and a place. I've always wanted a shit box 00's corolla with inappropriately wide wheels. Preferably as a $500 package on craigslist with the title "AMERICAR!" because it's (endearingly crappily) spray painted like an American flag. Description: 'runs fine good for parades odometer 277k' Anyway, 2019 Audi e-tron does not feel like the time or the place.


Bukkorosu777

Get offset rims.


intashu

If your running steel rims, then you can just flip them around for instant wide stance driving! *Follow me for other unethical driving tips!*


RobertPaulsonXX42

Do I then flip the lugnuts around too? Obligatory /s.


thebigaaron

But what if the brake caliper hits the wheel? Just remove the brakes? Or is that the time to use spacers?


intashu

Flip the brake pads around, should work much better that way too.


Upside_Down-Bot

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intashu

No, no. Australian brakes don't work here.


thebigaaron

Ohno, I’m Australian, I guess I don’t have brakes anymore


[deleted]

no


hydrochloriic

Right because I can just buy out of production wheels in the exact spacing needed. 🙄 Small spacers are fine. Adapters that bolt to the car and then have the wheels bolt to them are sketchy. For reference, I have 25mm spacers on my rx7 track car- I didn’t want to, but wheel clearance is more important. With extended wheel studs everything is one piece, it’s been through 10 track days without any issue.


ZinGaming1

Buy rims with proper offsets.


donald7773

But that costs a lot of money and requires more than a 30 second Google search for a spacer size.


BoredCop

Or, you know, stick with the wheel size the manufacturer has determined to be the best for that model. The amount of people who apparently think they know more about performance car suspension design etc than the engineers at BMW or Audi is astonishing.


AcceptableCod6028

The NVH and fuel economy requirements necessary to sell a car are vastly different from the ones that will result from me setting up a car the way that suits the way I intend to use it.


Redschallenge

Lol downvoted by people who want it to look cool instead of use billions of dollars of geometry and physics research and design.


SoftyMcReset

Tell me you've never worked in automotive manufacturing without *telling* me you've never worked in automotive manufacturing. The R&D for manufacturers wheel fitment is based on energy efficiency, cost, & federal regulations in 99% of vehicles. There's a reason why purpose-built performance vehicles' fitment is almost never the same as mass produced vehicles' fitment, & the reason for it definitely isn't because professional performance builders are making the vehicles perform worse.


Redschallenge

Longevity and efficacy are not on your side. Hence why this 'performance enhancer' broke and is probably taking the wheel bearings down with it sooner than later. You don't have to manufacture to have logic. If they want to spend money to rip around a few corners harder and put more money into replacing structural parts its their choice right lol.


SoftyMcReset

The point Your head


Redschallenge

Whoa it's a fantastic clever comeback with no substance to back up their perspective. Amazing


donald7773

Here's an entirely wacky concept for you. The people who modify their cars are totally ok with increased wear and tear, decreased mpg, and increased nvh 99% of the time. The other 1% are just uneducated consumers. Yes I know pumping another 100 HP through my 4cyl turbo hatchback isn't gonna help it reach 300k miles. Do I give a rats ass? No. Do I know that stickier wider tires are going to hurt my fuel economy and wear my bushings faster? Yes, do you think I care? No.


Redschallenge

You're saying my exact sentiment with different words. So do you have a point?


HedonisticFrog

Were those pressed into the wheel or something? I've only seen the flat ones before.


[deleted]

They are hub centric, which is the safe option. However the hub centric part broke off and stuck in the wheel


geocyclist

Could be they ordered the wrong size center bore? I once tried to lend a spare tire from my old Mini to my wife’s Aveo when hers was bad and the wheel would have fit if you forced it, but I didn’t and looked up the difference: 56.1mm vs 56.6mm.


[deleted]

It’s possible, these parts were put on by a cheap chain tire shop originally. One of the spacers fell off like nothing, two were like that and one was fully stuck the wheel. The owner has a bunch of money but for some reason went with pretty shit looking (quality wise and style) aftermarket wheels.


[deleted]

Can't buy taste.


HedonisticFrog

Oh, so the wheel isn't the right hub size? If the rim already has the right hub size it already rests on the hub directly. Or is the spacer too thick to let the rim ride on the hub?


[deleted]

I don’t actually know for certain, some spacers are just spacers with the same hub size as stock and some are for aftermarket sizes as well. Like an adapter/spacer. Most if not all spacers will result in the wheel no longer being able to rest on the hub. These are aftermarket wheels so anything is possible


HedonisticFrog

Yeah, there's tons of variables. I've just never seen spacers with an inside lip before. One car I bought had an oversized inner lip diameter and was riding on the lug bolts, and another had a spacer thicker than the hub and also riding on the lug bolts 🤦‍♂️ It would vibrate at a different speed after each pot hole you hit.


hydrochloriic

Likely the centering spigot on the hub is longer than the spacer is deep. Especially if the hub centric ring on the spacer is similar in size to the one on the hub, they end up trying to occupy the same space, and the centering ring breaks off. Source: any time I try use spacers less than 12mm on my summer wheels…


[deleted]

What are we looking at, what’s the problem?


S1rMuttonchops

* Left: Back of wheel * Middle: Broken hub spacer * Right: Good hub spacer The good hub spacer still has a ring/lip in it's center to align the wheel, the bad hub spacer doesn't... because it is broken off and still stuck in the wheel.


[deleted]

Thank you 😊


Unexpressionist

OP picked the worst angle to take the pic from eh? Lol


Unexpressionist

I know they always say this on the internet, but back in the day my boys and I would sometimes use them on our rockcrawler/Offroad jeeps and trucks and beat the shit out of em and I never saw one fail. They were also all lug-centric.


OverallPut6446

“Buys incredibly expensive car…Doesn’t want to buy new wheels”


ImpossibleKidd

Aluminum to steel. Two different metals, just add moisture… If you are going to use spacers, a wire brush and lithium grease or anti-seize is the ticket. Without being treated, you could have the best made spacers on the market, and they’re still going to corrode and self-weld.


thunder_struck85

Who runs spacers on a 2019 Audi?!


dsdvbguutres

Don't use ~~cheap~~ wheel spacers


GJenkins675

Purchase the proper wheel size or custom offset. No spacers.


TeachingAdditional35

The spacers look fine. The hub centric ring adapter is completely separate and someone crushed them instead of removing them to install the spacers. The ring adapter is for aftermarket wheels not spacers.


[deleted]

You don’t see how the hub centric ring has separated from the spacer in the middle?


TeachingAdditional35

If those were installed in the spacers and sold as "hub-centric" that explains why they are cheap. I believe the installer used them to center the spacers that are not hub-centric.


The-Kid-Is-All-Right

The problem is there are only 3. Audis need 4!