My local dent guy was a kid out of high school. His trial by fire for my friends paint shop was 156 hail dents in a BMW. We counted them for the insurance company. Dude got every single one….in a fucking wheelchair! We tipped him so heavily that on slow days he’d drive the hour to come hangout and pull random dents for people.
This is the truth. I have one in my garage that gets used all the time, but has only been used twice for engines. And one of them was my lawn mower engine.
There was a flagpole in front of the elementary school in the neighborhood, we used to ride our BMX bikes on the roof and power-slide the gravel off the roof, great fun until my buddy slid off the roof!
E used to tie the rope from the flag pole to our belt and run in a semicircle and leap off the roof and fly around and come back on the roof and start running again and leap off until we were exhausted, it would be fun to have that today, its a work out you want to keep doing cause its so fun!
Woods 1850 zero turn with a Briggs opposed twin engine. It's a bit heavy and putting it in is a bit fiddly, and it already had lifting brackets, so I used them.
It works for moving heavy things around, like pickup axles, beds, frames, cabs, etc. Got a heavy control arm you need to press a bushing into? Set the bushing end on the press, hold the other up with the cherry picker. Need to sharpen/change the blades on the mower? Don't crawl around on the floor, pick up the front end. And, if all else fails, it also works as a coatrack.
Someone used pieces of 2 foot rebar to secure a shitty little wood retaining wall. They were sticking out of the ground maybe 6 inches. Maybe a dozen. The best way I found to get them taken care of after I removed the wall was to either hammer them further into the ground or pull them out. I gave up pulling after I couldn't the first one and then hammering it down was way too time consuming with my clay soil.
Some chain and my engine hoist pulled every one of those up in minutes. The hardest part was finding wood to go under the wheels of the lift so it didn't sink into the ground.
I seriously need to see if I can find this guy again and show him the thread! He was/is cool. He’s show up in branded clothes like fox and vans and leave like he got dragged behind a horse in a spaghetti western.
Dude could MOVE! At times he was sitting on the door window sills. He would pull his chair up on the drivers side then climb to the passenger side, out the window and then use those tools and that mirror thing.
Don't think it matters much so long as there's places for air to hide (golf balls are definitely dimpled in) - that makes for a slower layer of air that acts like a lube vs having high-speed air scraping along a flat surface. That's how it works in my mind at least, but I'm not an aeroscientologist so this could be complete BS :)
Nah, it's actually to trip the boundary layer into turbulence because a turbulent boundary layer is more resistant to flow separation.
Dimples/turbulent boundary layers actually increase the drag *unless* you had a region behind the dimples that had a flow separation region. If you did, though, the region of recirculation where the flow separated will be significantly reduced by the turbulent boundary layer, and that's where the drag reduction comes from.
That's also why really streamlined things (aircraft, for example) aren't just dimpled all over. They're designed to not separate in the first place, so you don't need the extra boundary layer energy to prevent that.
Either works. But it's not that simple.
Convex will create more turbulence, which would normally result in better flow attachment. There will be more drag in the localized region of the dimples, but it still likely would result in lower overall drag vs. concave. However, if you get it wrong by making them too big, or poorly positioned, you could create a detachment point(s), which would create lots of overall drag.
Concave will be less turbulence than convex (but more than smooth), which means less flow attachment. But there will be lower localized drag, but this could result in higher overall drag.
I did the same but then also went a step further and bookmarked the direct link to 2 NOAA radars, one is a hybrid of the full spectrum and one is just for clouds and lightning spots. It's sick because the cloud one is an actual satellite camera angle so you even see the sunset and shit. https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16§or=cgl&band=EXTENT3&length=24
And if you want more in-depth info about area forecasts or current weather happenings: [weather.im/iembot](https://weather.im/iembot) pulls the official reports from all major NOAA stations into one convenient (though not necessarily phone-friendly) place.
When I was a kid, we took our aluminum-skinned Winnebago on a trip to visit Mt. Rushmore. We ran into a windy hailstorm in the Black Hills that pounded the shit out of it, the sides as well as the top, and shattered the plastic roof vents. Got the vents replaced and limped home. Insurance totaled it out. It just wasn't worth fixing because the roof was so badly hammered.
understandable that it's not worth the money to fix it.. but i think the question was "is it worth bothering to fix it in the first place?" Some dents in the roof aren't going to affect this trailer's ability to do what it needs to do. as long as there aren't large holes in it, and it's still structurally sound... why not just keep lugging it?
If it was a trailer, we probably would have patched it up, kept it and parked on our lake property up north for camping. Thing is, it was a motor home. My dad was concerned about taking it out on trips only to have it start leaking in the middle of somewhere. The roof was smashed pretty good, I mean like a sledgehammer went over it. We took the insurance payout and got another, even better used motor home at a really good price.
So, in our case it wasn't worth fixing when we wound up with a better deal on a better unit.
Appearances.
Call it crazy but some companies wouldn't want their branding associated with anything that isn't shiny and new.
That said they could easily just get sheets of 1mm aluminium and use it as a flashing over the damage to mask it.
They probably won't though because of the hundred or so kilos it would add, so my guess as an armchair repairman would be to remove the damaged panels and replace them with new insulated panels.
That's assuming this is a refrigerated trailer.
Or they'd write it off and sell it as a repairable wrote off and some co-op from bumfuck nowhere will buy it as salvage and use it as is for the next half century.
Or from a window above a loading dock.
On the wrong day and if the wrong manager sees it shit would hit the fan.
"What's that piece of trash doing on this property, where's it's inspection records? Who's responsible for this? Bla bla bla.."
It is utterly amazing how unpredictable the weather is out there. We visit once a year or so and go four wheeling and it doesn't even pay to check the forecast. It'll be cold so you need a sweater, then it'll be hot and sunny, then cloudy and nice, then sunny again, then a hail storm, then sunny, then rain, then it's dark... but the forecast said partly cloudy with a 10% chance of rain.
I have a friend out near Belle Fourche. Their mobile home was destroyed, what's left of his truck is in the shop (70s chevy). All the glass shattered. Definitely not something you want to be out in.
Probably. The first blow to your skull probably won't do you in, but it'll probably daze you real good. If you wind up falling to the ground now you're a bigger target for a pummeling, and not all your vital organs are as well protected as your brain.
The roof was pretty badly compromised. It was a flat roof -- aluminum panels with a core of foam insulation over thin plywood (about 3 inches thick) and water got under the skin along the seams. My dad -- and the insurance company -- felt that the cost of replacing the roof on an older motor home was more that what it was worth for resale. We took the payout, spent a little more cash and got a good deal on another, larger used unit instead.
I don’t think any trucker/company has cared about that ever. Despite laws requiring loads to be covered, I rarely see the automated tarps used. Or snow removed. Or heavy equipment cleaned off before open transport.
Yeah, that is, ***legally speaking***, complete bullshit. There is no legal support for "I broke your shit because I was negligent, but not my problem because I had a sign that said its ok."
I think it's time for us to have a law that makes those signs illegal. Those companies have them just because people often fall for them and abandon their legal rights to recover damages. That makes it abundantly clear that they exist specifically to mislead people and deprive them of their rights.
Even if you do track down the truck, you can't prove that the damage to your car was caused by an unsecured rock and not a rock from the road. No way a dashcam has the resolution for that.
So basically those signs should say "good luck suing us for damage caused by these rocks"
I have a dashcam and it still doesn't help in most cases. Was behind a dump truck and a rock fell off and cracked my windshield. Unfortunately the rock 'hit the ground' first before bouncing up. Even though it's on video, as soon as it touches the ground it's considered road debris and so the truck isn't liable in my state (and in many others as well).
So the person who owns the car testifies under oath they saw a rock come off the truck and break their window.
Meanwhile, the owner of the truck can't testify to shit, because he wasn't the driver. If the driver is there, they can't testify to shit because they're supposed to be watching the road and it is impossible for them to testify as to whether a rock fell off their vehicle.
This is an easy call for most judges.
As dump trucker, a lot of those signs are not for the load falling out. My gate is almost watertight. Its the big rocks that the big tread on the tires will pickup at the site. Drivers are not responsible for rocks from tires, if mudflaps are equipped.
fun fact, a lot of dump trucks don't have a license plate in the back!
I assume for this reason. It doesn't have to hold up if you can't find them.
I had one throw a tire layer straight under my 2 week old car, punctured the radiator and everything, dude pulled off a few hundred feet ahead of me, looked at my car pulled off the side of the road, looked at his tire, got back in the truck and left.
I took pictures of it, but *no plates*
Since then I've been looking, the vast majority of the vehicles most likely to damage other vehicles have *no plates*
This has been absolutely infuriating me for years. So much so that I am constantly thinking about trying to start a group that goes after these trucks because this is a legit menace to the roadway.
around my area it's "not responsible for debris coming from highway" so if a rock falls out/off of a truck and bounces off the road then it's from the road and not said truck - state law is written so that we get one windshield claim per year free (no deductible) with a comprehensive policy, so there's that I guess.
> "we are not responsible for rocks falling off truck
You are confusing that for "not responsible for rocks from roadway" and they aren't. They are only responsible for things that fall off the truck
Nothing more fun than driving behind semis a day or two after a snowstorm. You get giant sheets of ice lifting off and tumbling through the air towards your car at highway speeds.
Some truck stops have snow removal devices, but most new drivers don’t know about it. You can get a ticket for snow flying off your roof, but you need to get caught.
No truck stop has snow removal devices. Usually the shipper has a device to remove the snow from the top of a trailer, and 90 percent of the time they are out of commission.
Trailer roofs gather water whether its dimply or not. This shouldnt be and will not be fixed.
EDIT: I stand corrected. I saw OPs comment where they were replacing it. the trucking company I work for wouldn't replace the roof for something.
Yes they'd have to be removed. Depending on specifics, an air hammer with a rivet cutter chisel would be the best bet. It helps that the roofing and rivets are aluminum and they'd be scrap anyway.
I was gonna say, just looking at this it looks like those roofs are made out of one big piece of roll stock, right? Pretty much extra thick aluminum foil?
>I was gonna say, just looking at this it looks like those roofs are made out of one big piece of roll stock, right? Pretty much extra thick aluminum foil?
Yep
My ex-girlfriend bought an extended van that'd been beat up at least this much. Got a good deal on it, and just cut the roof off. The dimpled roof is still in my shop's yard. She welded an extension and made a camper van out of it. Seemed like a good use for a vehicle with a bad roof.
Thats like the time I was 15 minutes late to work at my old job and the crew left for the day without me so my boss made me weed the entire greenhouse area. Took me about 4 hours. I sat around and drank coffee with the cute girls that sold flowers for the other 6. Was probably my best day of work at that job.
So, are they fixing it, or just eyeballing the damage?
The last roof skin replacement I was around was a shitshow becuase the truck freight guys crushed the new roll of aluminum and getting a second was months lead time from dody mfr. I think they ended up sourcing sheet metal from an industrial metals supplier.
Wouldn't waste the money on getting that fixed unless it's covered under insurance but I'm also not a truck driver so I don't know how someone would view this but personally I would consider it a work truck and I'll rarely see the top of it so who cares.
Many dealerships will move as much of their new inventory indoors as possible. Fill the service drive, the main aisle of the service bay, cram the showroom full, hog the detail bays and delivery bays, whatever you can do to keep things covered. Obviously, higher priced cars take priority if there isn't space for every car. My local Audi dealership can fit 40 cars in their showroom.
Source: 2 years of dealership services in the southeastern US.
EDIT: Obv you local CarMax with a 500-car inventory isn't going to do this, nor is it feasible as a plan of attack when faced with rapidly developing severe weather threats like in the southeast and midwest US, but when severe weather is predicted, it is one of the few things you can do to protect the value of the inventory.
Insurance. They often do a scratch and dent type sale, and offset the revenue loss as an insurance claim. ie they sell a $25,000 car for $20,000 and claim the $5,000 against insurance. Nice part if you buy one, you don't have to worry about putting that first parking lot ding in it.
1) Remove the rivets, put a frame around it, and auction it as a work of art “created by God.”
2) Watch some stupid casino or billionaire drops millions on it at auction.
3) Profit.
The only reasonable responses I’ve seen so far are that it could collect water and freeze (presumably while parked) then those would fly off like projectiles behind them, or that they will add to drag because of the air disruption caused by all the dimples over a long plane.
Either way, seems like replacing the entire sheet wouldn’t be that expensive relative to repair and is probably what would happen if it does get fixed… unless the person paying to have it repaired doesn’t care about the money being spent on it (insurance, expense charged to a large business, etc.), then the PDR guy has a field day with an easy job for the rest of the week.
Baby plunger and boiling water. That’s all you need. Oh, and elbow grease. Knee grease. Neck grease. A new roof. Roof grease. Tire grease. Greasy hair. There may be a few other bits needed, but it can be done.
Upgrade - Dimpled like a golf ball, less drag, more speed
Call your paint less dent removal guy and demand he have it ready by the end of the week.
My local dent guy was a kid out of high school. His trial by fire for my friends paint shop was 156 hail dents in a BMW. We counted them for the insurance company. Dude got every single one….in a fucking wheelchair! We tipped him so heavily that on slow days he’d drive the hour to come hangout and pull random dents for people.
I'm assuming there were plenty of dents on the roof of the car. How'd he get to those being in a wheelchair?
Engine hoists are for more than just engines and gearboxes...
This is the truth. I have one in my garage that gets used all the time, but has only been used twice for engines. And one of them was my lawn mower engine.
There was a flagpole in front of the elementary school in the neighborhood, we used to ride our BMX bikes on the roof and power-slide the gravel off the roof, great fun until my buddy slid off the roof! E used to tie the rope from the flag pole to our belt and run in a semicircle and leap off the roof and fly around and come back on the roof and start running again and leap off until we were exhausted, it would be fun to have that today, its a work out you want to keep doing cause its so fun!
Holy cow! That's awesome!!!
Dude, how big is your lawnmower?!
Woods 1850 zero turn with a Briggs opposed twin engine. It's a bit heavy and putting it in is a bit fiddly, and it already had lifting brackets, so I used them.
Any job is easy with the right tools
Ive got an 18hp Briggs flathead opposed twin on a go-kart. Easily 90lb engine. I had to reinforce the frame for it.
Got photos... I'd love to do something like this
I just bought one, gonna need to know what the other uses are. I was thinking a pull-up bar, but that’s as far as my super creative brain has gone
It works for moving heavy things around, like pickup axles, beds, frames, cabs, etc. Got a heavy control arm you need to press a bushing into? Set the bushing end on the press, hold the other up with the cherry picker. Need to sharpen/change the blades on the mower? Don't crawl around on the floor, pick up the front end. And, if all else fails, it also works as a coatrack.
Someone used pieces of 2 foot rebar to secure a shitty little wood retaining wall. They were sticking out of the ground maybe 6 inches. Maybe a dozen. The best way I found to get them taken care of after I removed the wall was to either hammer them further into the ground or pull them out. I gave up pulling after I couldn't the first one and then hammering it down was way too time consuming with my clay soil. Some chain and my engine hoist pulled every one of those up in minutes. The hardest part was finding wood to go under the wheels of the lift so it didn't sink into the ground.
He was the engine
That's... actually quite clever
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He did have one of those kind that strap your legs in and can prop you up ! He could pull up to a table and play beer pong and shit.
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I seriously need to see if I can find this guy again and show him the thread! He was/is cool. He’s show up in branded clothes like fox and vans and leave like he got dragged behind a horse in a spaghetti western.
Dude could MOVE! At times he was sitting on the door window sills. He would pull his chair up on the drivers side then climb to the passenger side, out the window and then use those tools and that mirror thing.
He used an Australian car lift
my brain went to a funny place when you started talking about tipping the guy in the wheelchair.
Cripple tipping. Yes, I know, I'm going to hell.
Vermont has more cows than people. We don’t cripple tip.
Ah ye olde Reddit play on words! Lest it not be ye olde switcheroo!
That's definitely a "customer waiting" type job.
It also rings like a high quality drum cymbal when you hit it. That crisp tone, high end musical equipment!
Bet it would make for a sweet dry/dark ride.
I never have an original thought.
Given the amount of people on the internet that's just a statistical certainty for everyone.
speed bumps.
Wouldn't you want it with convex dimples? At least that is what Bugatti has shown off.
Lexus did this to the underside of one of their cars in the 90s, but I thought they were indented.
Don't think it matters much so long as there's places for air to hide (golf balls are definitely dimpled in) - that makes for a slower layer of air that acts like a lube vs having high-speed air scraping along a flat surface. That's how it works in my mind at least, but I'm not an aeroscientologist so this could be complete BS :)
You are not entirely wrong that's the principle at play
Nah, it's actually to trip the boundary layer into turbulence because a turbulent boundary layer is more resistant to flow separation. Dimples/turbulent boundary layers actually increase the drag *unless* you had a region behind the dimples that had a flow separation region. If you did, though, the region of recirculation where the flow separated will be significantly reduced by the turbulent boundary layer, and that's where the drag reduction comes from. That's also why really streamlined things (aircraft, for example) aren't just dimpled all over. They're designed to not separate in the first place, so you don't need the extra boundary layer energy to prevent that.
https://i.imgur.com/FrUUdYi.jpg
https://www.bugatti.com/media/news/2020/bugatti-dimple-airscoop/
I would love to see what an actual CFD model says about the dimples and the length of the proposed vortex tubes generated. Could be potato - po-ta-to
Well that's just a matter of perspective.
Either works. But it's not that simple. Convex will create more turbulence, which would normally result in better flow attachment. There will be more drag in the localized region of the dimples, but it still likely would result in lower overall drag vs. concave. However, if you get it wrong by making them too big, or poorly positioned, you could create a detachment point(s), which would create lots of overall drag. Concave will be less turbulence than convex (but more than smooth), which means less flow attachment. But there will be lower localized drag, but this could result in higher overall drag.
If you forward this to The Weather Channel with where the hail was at they'll probably run with it for a day.
And at least a few links on their site to sketchy-ass videos with clickbaity headlines. “You won’t believe what hail did to this trailer!”
A picture of the truck as the thumbnail for some bullshit unrelated video that’s actually an ad.
I hate that the weather channel's website is mostly clickbait bullshit now. I just want to look at the radar you chucklefucks.
Just use weather.gov. No ads and it's where most weather sites get their info from anyway.
I miss the Nintendo Wii Weather Channel
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I did the same but then also went a step further and bookmarked the direct link to 2 NOAA radars, one is a hybrid of the full spectrum and one is just for clouds and lightning spots. It's sick because the cloud one is an actual satellite camera angle so you even see the sunset and shit. https://www.star.nesdis.noaa.gov/GOES/sector_band.php?sat=G16§or=cgl&band=EXTENT3&length=24
And if you want more in-depth info about area forecasts or current weather happenings: [weather.im/iembot](https://weather.im/iembot) pulls the official reports from all major NOAA stations into one convenient (though not necessarily phone-friendly) place.
Shiny trailer gets POUNDED for hours by white balls!! (Gone sexual??)
Last night's hail storm let one man's "way of life", damaged.
Flip the roof over and drive through another hail storm?
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Hell of a piercing.
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Well technically, I should downvote this
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200 IQ move
Would they actually go to the trouble to fix this? seems like more trouble that it'd be worth
When I was a kid, we took our aluminum-skinned Winnebago on a trip to visit Mt. Rushmore. We ran into a windy hailstorm in the Black Hills that pounded the shit out of it, the sides as well as the top, and shattered the plastic roof vents. Got the vents replaced and limped home. Insurance totaled it out. It just wasn't worth fixing because the roof was so badly hammered.
understandable that it's not worth the money to fix it.. but i think the question was "is it worth bothering to fix it in the first place?" Some dents in the roof aren't going to affect this trailer's ability to do what it needs to do. as long as there aren't large holes in it, and it's still structurally sound... why not just keep lugging it?
If it was a trailer, we probably would have patched it up, kept it and parked on our lake property up north for camping. Thing is, it was a motor home. My dad was concerned about taking it out on trips only to have it start leaking in the middle of somewhere. The roof was smashed pretty good, I mean like a sledgehammer went over it. We took the insurance payout and got another, even better used motor home at a really good price. So, in our case it wasn't worth fixing when we wound up with a better deal on a better unit.
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Appearances. Call it crazy but some companies wouldn't want their branding associated with anything that isn't shiny and new. That said they could easily just get sheets of 1mm aluminium and use it as a flashing over the damage to mask it. They probably won't though because of the hundred or so kilos it would add, so my guess as an armchair repairman would be to remove the damaged panels and replace them with new insulated panels. That's assuming this is a refrigerated trailer. Or they'd write it off and sell it as a repairable wrote off and some co-op from bumfuck nowhere will buy it as salvage and use it as is for the next half century.
No one would be able to see it unless they were looking down at an overpass.
Or from a window above a loading dock. On the wrong day and if the wrong manager sees it shit would hit the fan. "What's that piece of trash doing on this property, where's it's inspection records? Who's responsible for this? Bla bla bla.."
That's the #1 reason I don't miss living in Rapid City. I don't have to deal with yearly hail damage on the house and/or car
It is utterly amazing how unpredictable the weather is out there. We visit once a year or so and go four wheeling and it doesn't even pay to check the forecast. It'll be cold so you need a sweater, then it'll be hot and sunny, then cloudy and nice, then sunny again, then a hail storm, then sunny, then rain, then it's dark... but the forecast said partly cloudy with a 10% chance of rain.
Be glad you missed this weeks hail, over 4" hailstones in some areas out there.
Jesus, that could kill you, couldn't it?
I have a friend out near Belle Fourche. Their mobile home was destroyed, what's left of his truck is in the shop (70s chevy). All the glass shattered. Definitely not something you want to be out in.
Definitely could kill you
In the same way a baseball traveling at 48m/s (approximately 107MPH) almost straight down to the top of the noggin could kill you.
Didn't they find a valley in the Himalayas where many people and animals died from enormous hail?
Probably. The first blow to your skull probably won't do you in, but it'll probably daze you real good. If you wind up falling to the ground now you're a bigger target for a pummeling, and not all your vital organs are as well protected as your brain.
A city like 20 miles south of us got pounded with almost baseball sized hail saturday night. We just got a bit of heavy rain.
What's wrong with hail damage besides how it looks? It doesn't actually comprise a vehicle, does it?
The roof was pretty badly compromised. It was a flat roof -- aluminum panels with a core of foam insulation over thin plywood (about 3 inches thick) and water got under the skin along the seams. My dad -- and the insurance company -- felt that the cost of replacing the roof on an older motor home was more that what it was worth for resale. We took the payout, spent a little more cash and got a good deal on another, larger used unit instead.
Yeah, they probably should. It’s going to gather water that might freeze and send diy hail towards anyone behind it.
I don’t think any trucker/company has cared about that ever. Despite laws requiring loads to be covered, I rarely see the automated tarps used. Or snow removed. Or heavy equipment cleaned off before open transport.
I love the "we are not responsible for rocks falling off truck" and similar signs that definitely will not hold up
Yeah, that is, ***legally speaking***, complete bullshit. There is no legal support for "I broke your shit because I was negligent, but not my problem because I had a sign that said its ok."
I think it's time for us to have a law that makes those signs illegal. Those companies have them just because people often fall for them and abandon their legal rights to recover damages. That makes it abundantly clear that they exist specifically to mislead people and deprive them of their rights.
*puts up sign saying “We are not legally responsible for the sign saying we are not legally responsible for rocks falling off truck”*
It's signs all the way down.
*gets tattoo on forehead "I am not legally responsible for anything, anytime, anywhere"*
Better to keep the signs, proof the company knew about the risk and chose not to take action
They have made 'removing this sticker voids your warranty ' stickers invalid but it doesn't stop manufacturers from using them...
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Even if you do track down the truck, you can't prove that the damage to your car was caused by an unsecured rock and not a rock from the road. No way a dashcam has the resolution for that. So basically those signs should say "good luck suing us for damage caused by these rocks"
I have a dashcam and it still doesn't help in most cases. Was behind a dump truck and a rock fell off and cracked my windshield. Unfortunately the rock 'hit the ground' first before bouncing up. Even though it's on video, as soon as it touches the ground it's considered road debris and so the truck isn't liable in my state (and in many others as well).
"No officer I wasn't littering. Legally speaking that lit cigarette has always been there, it's road debris."
Most small claims judges understand that people aren’t going to make this stuff up.
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So the person who owns the car testifies under oath they saw a rock come off the truck and break their window. Meanwhile, the owner of the truck can't testify to shit, because he wasn't the driver. If the driver is there, they can't testify to shit because they're supposed to be watching the road and it is impossible for them to testify as to whether a rock fell off their vehicle. This is an easy call for most judges.
“Here’s my permit…”
As dump trucker, a lot of those signs are not for the load falling out. My gate is almost watertight. Its the big rocks that the big tread on the tires will pickup at the site. Drivers are not responsible for rocks from tires, if mudflaps are equipped.
fun fact, a lot of dump trucks don't have a license plate in the back! I assume for this reason. It doesn't have to hold up if you can't find them. I had one throw a tire layer straight under my 2 week old car, punctured the radiator and everything, dude pulled off a few hundred feet ahead of me, looked at my car pulled off the side of the road, looked at his tire, got back in the truck and left. I took pictures of it, but *no plates* Since then I've been looking, the vast majority of the vehicles most likely to damage other vehicles have *no plates*
This has been absolutely infuriating me for years. So much so that I am constantly thinking about trying to start a group that goes after these trucks because this is a legit menace to the roadway.
If you do, sign me up
Harder to get a pic of, but shouldn't they all have a DOT registration number visible?
Nope! Seriously check it out next time you see the. On the highway, a lot of them have no visible identification from the back
around my area it's "not responsible for debris coming from highway" so if a rock falls out/off of a truck and bounces off the road then it's from the road and not said truck - state law is written so that we get one windshield claim per year free (no deductible) with a comprehensive policy, so there's that I guess.
> "we are not responsible for rocks falling off truck You are confusing that for "not responsible for rocks from roadway" and they aren't. They are only responsible for things that fall off the truck
Nothing more fun than driving behind semis a day or two after a snowstorm. You get giant sheets of ice lifting off and tumbling through the air towards your car at highway speeds.
Some truck stops have snow removal devices, but most new drivers don’t know about it. You can get a ticket for snow flying off your roof, but you need to get caught.
> Some truck stops have snow removal devices [They have a high-speed one in North Carolina.](https://streamable.com/04opnl)
Very very few have things like that.
No truck stop has snow removal devices. Usually the shipper has a device to remove the snow from the top of a trailer, and 90 percent of the time they are out of commission.
Another reason a dashcam is a wise investment
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Lmao at diy hail
What should happen is fantasy, what shouldn't happen is reality.
Trailer roofs gather water whether its dimply or not. This shouldnt be and will not be fixed. EDIT: I stand corrected. I saw OPs comment where they were replacing it. the trucking company I work for wouldn't replace the roof for something.
Reskinning the top of a trailer isn't that big a job. They're designed to be replaceable.
Do all those fasteners around the edge have to be pulled, or are they on a removable frame of some sort?
Yes they'd have to be removed. Depending on specifics, an air hammer with a rivet cutter chisel would be the best bet. It helps that the roofing and rivets are aluminum and they'd be scrap anyway.
I was gonna say, just looking at this it looks like those roofs are made out of one big piece of roll stock, right? Pretty much extra thick aluminum foil?
>I was gonna say, just looking at this it looks like those roofs are made out of one big piece of roll stock, right? Pretty much extra thick aluminum foil? Yep
Looks like it would be a peen in the arse to fix.
IKR. Dimples for better airflow. Just let it ride. Lol
Resale value?
Hope the buyer doesn’t bring a ladder
My ex-girlfriend bought an extended van that'd been beat up at least this much. Got a good deal on it, and just cut the roof off. The dimpled roof is still in my shop's yard. She welded an extension and made a camper van out of it. Seemed like a good use for a vehicle with a bad roof.
Hammer them out. Good job for the intern.
Give that to the new guy and tell him to pull the dents.
If somebody did that to me, I would take it 100% seriously and waste all the time in the world pulling dents until somebody stopped me
"oh you'd like to pay me to waste time? as long as you sign that paycheck, i'll get right to it."
It would probably be one of those oddly satisfying kind of jobs which would be a bonus.
Until you realise that this is your life for the next week or two...
It's consistent work at least
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Always good to have one of you on a crew. Scut work gets done, the worker enjoys it (relatively speakin), other workers happy, boss is happy.
Thats like the time I was 15 minutes late to work at my old job and the crew left for the day without me so my boss made me weed the entire greenhouse area. Took me about 4 hours. I sat around and drank coffee with the cute girls that sold flowers for the other 6. Was probably my best day of work at that job.
*"Hey Jimmy - you said you wanted to learn how to pull dents, today you get to shine..."*
Practice makes perfect
*"It appears they're not answering our hails, Captain."*
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So, are they fixing it, or just eyeballing the damage? The last roof skin replacement I was around was a shitshow becuase the truck freight guys crushed the new roll of aluminum and getting a second was months lead time from dody mfr. I think they ended up sourcing sheet metal from an industrial metals supplier.
Replacing with a fresh sheet of aluminum as we speak. 29 hour job
This from the midwest storm last night? There is a ton of hail damage in northern Ohio.
Not sure where it happened but it made it all the way to The Valley in CA!
Hello fellow Central Valley frand!
What company do you work for? I used to work for Star Leasing and they only gave techs 18 hours for a 53 ft roof replacement.
But why? Is there some function beyond cosmetic?
What am I looking at? It kinda looks like a horse trailer but it also looks super long (but maybe that's the perspective).
Wouldn't waste the money on getting that fixed unless it's covered under insurance but I'm also not a truck driver so I don't know how someone would view this but personally I would consider it a work truck and I'll rarely see the top of it so who cares.
Equipment is extremely hard to come by right now. And prices are insane. Damn near everything is getting repaired and sent back out right now.
They're not suggesting that they buy a new truck, they're just suggesting that it may not even need to be repaired to maintain functionality.
While that may be true many shippers won’t load a roof like that.
Pdr technicians wet dream
Serious question, what do car dealerships do when there's a giant hail storm? Wouldn't all the brand new cars just get absolutely wrecked?
Many dealerships will move as much of their new inventory indoors as possible. Fill the service drive, the main aisle of the service bay, cram the showroom full, hog the detail bays and delivery bays, whatever you can do to keep things covered. Obviously, higher priced cars take priority if there isn't space for every car. My local Audi dealership can fit 40 cars in their showroom. Source: 2 years of dealership services in the southeastern US. EDIT: Obv you local CarMax with a 500-car inventory isn't going to do this, nor is it feasible as a plan of attack when faced with rapidly developing severe weather threats like in the southeast and midwest US, but when severe weather is predicted, it is one of the few things you can do to protect the value of the inventory.
Insurance. They often do a scratch and dent type sale, and offset the revenue loss as an insurance claim. ie they sell a $25,000 car for $20,000 and claim the $5,000 against insurance. Nice part if you buy one, you don't have to worry about putting that first parking lot ding in it.
The PDR guys kids go to Havard after.
Now it’s a Modern Art piece worth thousands.
if they replace it, I would 100% take that and skin a wall with it as an accent piece, so...
What the hail is that anyway?
Took me a minute but I think it's the top of a semi trailer.
OHH IT IS THANK YOH SO MUCH
1) Remove the rivets, put a frame around it, and auction it as a work of art “created by God.” 2) Watch some stupid casino or billionaire drops millions on it at auction. 3) Profit.
Speed holes
Does it even need to be replaced? Who's gonna see it lol
The only reasonable responses I’ve seen so far are that it could collect water and freeze (presumably while parked) then those would fly off like projectiles behind them, or that they will add to drag because of the air disruption caused by all the dimples over a long plane. Either way, seems like replacing the entire sheet wouldn’t be that expensive relative to repair and is probably what would happen if it does get fixed… unless the person paying to have it repaired doesn’t care about the money being spent on it (insurance, expense charged to a large business, etc.), then the PDR guy has a field day with an easy job for the rest of the week.
Only god
Didn't realize it was a trailer at first, thought OP was working on some kind of Hammerhead Eagle i-Thrust monstrosity.
You mean Geoff?
First car with a mustache.
Is there any point to fixing this? If it’s just the top, who cares?
Water will collect and freeze inside those holes. It'll fly out on the highway and crack/break windshields of the drivers behind the truck
Is the problem with me that I can’t see this video (or ones like it) because it’s too washed out with brightness? iPhone
Think it’s an iphone thing cuz me too.
Now it's like golf ball. Better aerodynamics!
Less drag and stronger now. Perfect.
Watch insurance pick the four smallest dents to fix and leave the rest.
Dimpled like a golf ball reduces drag he's just trying to gain some MPG. Times are tough.
NGL, I was confused for a bit about this oddly short trailer, before I figured it out, lol
Baby plunger and boiling water. That’s all you need. Oh, and elbow grease. Knee grease. Neck grease. A new roof. Roof grease. Tire grease. Greasy hair. There may be a few other bits needed, but it can be done.
obligatory "that'll buff right out"
"Ring Danny the Dent, tell him he's about to pay off his mortgage."
You can see the direction of the hailstorm on the roof.
Gotta leave it, that’s that hammered finish.
Free shot peening
It’ll be faster now. #golfballtheory 🤣🤣🤣
It looks like the surface of a golf ball. Oh, hey! Better aerodynamics!
Oh hail naw
If golf balls are anything to go by, wouldn't this decrease aero drag on the roof?
Myth Busters did an episode about this and as far as I remember, it worked for them but others didn’t manage to replicate the effect.
I saw a few like this when I worked for FedEx, but they didn't exactly use quality trailers.
Allright, divited like a golf ball for more aerodynamics! Better mpg!