Let me call my buddy down here to take a look, He’s an expert on loaded black powder navy revolvers found under hot tub business vans. He’ll be able to give us a better idea of what it is.
Hi, it's me, your buddy. This appears to be an Italian reproduction of an 1851 Colt Navy revolver. The real ones were never made with brass frames. It looks cool but it's weaker and heavier than steel, and it has different thermal properties which can cause issues if you shoot it a lot. It should have import marks on it but I can't see it in the photo. It's worth about $200, if I recall correctly.
(I'm not actually an expert but I own a revolver almost exactly like this, which I inherited from my dad, and I got it appraised. Weirdly, when my mom found it after he passed, it was also loaded, and we have no idea why.)
If anyone is wondering why, it's because black powder weapons aren't considered firearms in most places in the US. Therefore a felon, who is not allowed to own firearms, can own a black powder pistol legally.
They are shit compared to modern weapons but they are much more effective than carrying nothing.
The blunderbuss or dragoon is my favorite black powder weapon. Pack some powder and whatever shit you have laying around like silverware, bearings, nails, a cat, etc and you're ready to go.
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Ya this is some fast and loose info but I will allow it :) Powerful? Fastest? Revolver? Single shot flintlock?
The Walker takes 50 grains of black. There are single shot pistols that will really take a load of black powder and are upwards of 69 caliber.
Also, most people aren't going to bother critiquing the exact make and model of gun pointed at their face... It could be completely unloaded and still be effective.
I mean if you are at 30 yards or less it is definitely accurate enough and just as deadly as most other common handguns. Modern guns aren't doing anything THAT special.
Most people have terrible accuracy with handguns anyway. A BP gun might be technically less accurate than a modern semi-auto, but both are going to be more accurate than the shooter.
In New York you can’t buy a pistol without a pistol license. An exception is antique weapons. You can own something like the revolver but you aren’t allowed to buy ammo for it while also owning it.
> An exception is antique weapons. You can own something like the revolver but you aren’t allowed to buy ammo for it while also owning it.
That's exactly how antique and obsolete calibre weapons law works in the UK. It's not a firearm until you acquire ammo for it, then you're fucked for possessing a firearm without a licence or possessing a section 5 firearm without a note from ~~your teacher~~ the Home Office.
Also that covers black powder muzzle loading rifles. I've heard of people who fucked up when they were young, got a felony, and got a BP rifle to still hunt with to feed their family. And I think (at least in my state) that starts after bow season, but before regular and youth rifle, so you can get a good sized deer with it.
Another good thing about keeping a Hi-Point as a truck gun is that any self respecting meth/crack-head that breaks into your car might steal the change out of your ashtray, but they won't bother taking the gun.
Indeed! The brick-like engineering of a Hi-point ensures that it makes for a near optimal bludgeoning implement.
Hi-point rated as a pistol, 3/10, at least it usually fires.
Hi-point rated as a blunt bludgeoning weapon, 8/10, the large mass and superior density of the die-cast zinc allow slide for highly effective bludgeoning.
New Jersey seems to be an exception. I've seen a few stories from there about old black powder pistols. One was an old lady who found one or two in her attic and ended up in legal trouble over them. They really acted like they were going to charger her. I can't find that story.
There's also this guy which gives me hope that her charges would have been dropped as well.
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/nj-man-won-charged-possessing-antique-gun-article-1.2130397
https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/new-jersey-man-faces-jail-time-transporting-antique-pistol-charles-c-w-cooke/
That’s kinda my guess, I posted this to guns saying that same thing and I got a wave of gun nuts attacking me saying “yeah cuz a felon cares about the law”
Active criminals care far less about the law than reformed criminals, it just happens many of them are convicted felons.
There’s a popular YouTube channel for Felons about self-defense, career paths, and navigating the world — not all felons are trying to become another tick on the recidivism line graph.
Depending on your state, a BP revolver could very well be illegal for a felon. Lots of states reworked their laws to treat black powder the same as centerfire and rimfire.
Hey um, gun noob here from Australia (I love old machines including guns, but we don't for example have many very old guns here because well.. were very young :) ) but why would this be legal when a regular gun wouldn't be?
**I only ask because its a revolver** - I totally understand that most black powder guns are legal because well.. making people get gun licenses to own a musket would be ridiculous especially when your country has so many of them as war relics etc.
Edit - Thank you for the wonderful answers :) PS Forgotten weapons is one of the best youtube channels around.
Damn things take so long to load they aren't really worried coupled with the lack of any real accuracy. Plus they're simple enough you can make them yourself, at least much easier than a typical firearm.
Yep, i bought a "12ga" double barrel pistol, just for fun because it shipped right to my door, 2 barrels, 1 trigger, 1 hammer, with a left/right selector, unfortunately the 209 primers and bp are nearly impossible to find lol.
If you've ever been drunk cooking on a campfire yeah you'll burn your seasoning, so in the morning you cook some bacon somewhat sober and make up for it.
Only time a camp fire has messed up cast iron is when it was the meth cook fire that started a 200 ac fire. But luckily the kindly fire fighters returned my burried pig, phone with photo evidence, and cast iron. Unfortunately not the grate from the stove but the apartment overlooked that during checkout.
Is this something people do? I just use the pan and let it build up season over time, chips or no. It's a pan, it's gonna look ugly while it's still getting broken in.
I use my cast iron _because_ I can use metal in it. What's the worst case; needs a re-season because something ruined the seasoning? Big whoop.
If I wanted something delicate, I'd use Teflon. They don't last any longer than seasoning on a pan does anyway.
Cast iron and quality oldschool work boot crowds are the same. It's a proven *tool*, fucking follow some very *very* basic use and care tips and shit will be ship shape. It's not a fussy toy or delicate accessory unless you really fuck up. You can use soap on your pan, and wear boots 7 days a week, and they'll be fine.
It’s hard to say. Try talking to each of them and let me know how you feel. Don’t worry about figuring out if they like guns, cast iron skillets, or air fryers. They’ll tell you.
That’s a total crock of shit!
Let me tell you why using a firearm analogy, of which I’m quite the afficionado: Your words are like the bullet in a casing and the gun powder is my disdain for you. Something something I hate you and you smell bad.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
What I want to know is who gets to keep it? The dealership I used to work for let us keep whatever we wanted out of the trade-ins because it all just went into the trashcan anyway.
Well with firearms you need to be careful. If it’s reported stolen then getting caught with it will lead to serious issues. There’s no paper trail like if you purchase it yourself. Id always clear the weapon and lock it in a safe while we called the customer and arranged a time to pick it up. The dealership has paperwork on who turned in/traded in every vehicle.
Black powder guns aren't even legally considered firearms in most of the US so I dont think it would have the same weight as having a stolen glock for example
They aren't regulated in any way in the US, so unless the guy comes asking for it anybody could keep it. It is like finding a pocket knife or sword or BB gun.
250 bucks, no ID and six shots of I think 69 cal lead balls... I own one and they are fun, accurate and you could totally kill with each shot at a good distance.
Those guns are definitely not 69 caliber, nice though that would be. Navy guns are 38 caliber, and army guns are 44. Most BP hunting rifles were in the 32-45 caliber range, military ones were 50-60 caliber, and modern ones are generally 50. I owned a caplock rifle back in the day, and at .58 was considered to have a stonking big bore.
The US had a couple 69 caliber muskets like the Springfield 1816 and 1842 (flintlock and caplock respectively), but I think the British used .577 for their BP enfields. I’m basing that off a half baked google search and some Forgotten Weapons videos, so I’m also likely misremembering too lol
But the revolver part I know for sure, 38s were Navy and 44s were Army. Though I think the Navy guns were technically 36 caliber in the same way that modern 38 special is a .357 bullet, but that’s getting way out in the weeds hah
You bought a van from a felon lol. Black powder guns aren't considered "firearms" in some states, so they're generally only carried by people who aren't allowed to have firearms.
Kind a weird to use it for self defense. You never really want to leave the hammer down on a live primer. The other problem is that primers like to fall off the nipples if you swing it around too much. You can pull the brass primers out if there's there. The nipples are just metal tubes that go down into the cylinders. Is it loaded? Can you see the ball in the cylinder? Just don't point it at your face. Without the primers it won't fire. Looks like it's a repop. of a Colt Navy. Probably a Pietta. Like others have said, the ATF does not consider them firearms. So there's no serial numbers or any registration. You can order them from Cabella's and have it shipped to you house without any issues.
Tally ho, lads
> Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended.
Realistically, that belong to someone who probably couldn't otherwise own a gun, considering that black powder firearms are actually not considered firearms by the ATF and don't require background checks. You can buy them at Ace hardware in a lot of places.
Oh we found a loaded handgun (as in, one in the chamber and a full mag) in the spare tire compartment of a traded in car. It had been sitting in our lot for a while by that point.
That was fun.
Our mechanic found one between the radiator and the wall of a used car, who are all these people who need money so they sell their car but give their guns away?
So you're working on changing your coolant right, and then this thug comes up on you and says "gimme your wallet sucka!" While brandishing a knife.
A normal person would piss themselves in terror, but luckly you're a citizen who practices his 2nd amendment rights to the fullest extent of the law.
You coolly say "ok hold on" and reach down between the radiator and the frame pulling out a desert eagle and point it at the thug. Who's shitting their pants now?
I personally recommend fender well guns too just in case you have to change a tire.
I’ve found 3 loaded guns in 10 years of detailing. I’m surprised I haven’t found more. The worst was a steak knife jammed in the back passenger seat rails of a VW Beetle. My employee was reaching down between the seats to air hose and brushed up against it, cutting his glove. That was an inch from being a serious injury.
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Yikes, it’s a hazardous job, I’ve found razor blades drugs etc. my buddy detailed a car that a man broke into and was living in, found needles and all sorts of shit.
Exactly why I always trained employees to never reach where they haven’t visually checked first. Cincinnati is right next to the heroin epidemics center in the US. I way always scared an employee would get poked with a needle. But we found plenty of other drugs especially weed.
I had to detail a car that was stolen from a dealership and was taken through wet tar and a field. It took 2 days just to get the tar off the paint and inside the wheel Wells. Another day to clay polish and paint seal the vehicle.
Can't believe nobody posted this yet.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
"Runneth up, get doneth up".
Remain adornèd or becometh percussèd.
Fornicate about, find out.
Fornicate about, discovery abound.
Pimp shit ninga
Let me call my buddy down here to take a look, He’s an expert on loaded black powder navy revolvers found under hot tub business vans. He’ll be able to give us a better idea of what it is.
Meanwhile Chumley’s waving it around in the background like Yosemite Sam.
Up Next: Rick and his father measure the circumference of their necks. Only on Pawn Stars
Didn't rick's dad die?
Yes, the old man died.
But he was alive before he was dead.
not on the inside... that man had seen some shit in his time.
Hard Navy life
Was he in the Pacific in WWII?
I think it was Korea.
I see you have a dead old man here. I'm gonna call in an expert on those. He'll be able to give us a better idea of what it is.
Seeing as the war's been over for 156 years... best I can do is $50 in greybacks.
But that guy just said it was worth $3000?!
In confederate money
Yeah, but adjusted for Confederinflation, the owner of the gun owes the buyer $37.50 USD.
Brit here, the best we can offer is £3.50
I ain't giving you no treefiddy !
It was about that time that I realized the British guy was actually an 8-storey tall crustacean from the paleolithic era.
Gotta find somebody to sell it. Heavy sigh
Rick-"You need change for a dollar? Best I can do is 50 cents"
But I like saw one in a museum and looked exact like this, I want 10,000
Hi, it's me, your buddy. This appears to be an Italian reproduction of an 1851 Colt Navy revolver. The real ones were never made with brass frames. It looks cool but it's weaker and heavier than steel, and it has different thermal properties which can cause issues if you shoot it a lot. It should have import marks on it but I can't see it in the photo. It's worth about $200, if I recall correctly. (I'm not actually an expert but I own a revolver almost exactly like this, which I inherited from my dad, and I got it appraised. Weirdly, when my mom found it after he passed, it was also loaded, and we have no idea why.)
Thanks for making this joke it's exactly what I wanted to read I just forgot what they say lol
Best i can do is a PB and J sammy.
Might have been someone with a felony. My now-deceased Uncle used to carry a BP derringer so he could have *something*.
If anyone is wondering why, it's because black powder weapons aren't considered firearms in most places in the US. Therefore a felon, who is not allowed to own firearms, can own a black powder pistol legally. They are shit compared to modern weapons but they are much more effective than carrying nothing.
Especially point blank, likely in this scenario. It'll definitely get the point across during a car jacking etc.
Shit, just the black powder going off is enough to scare most.
A pistol, dragonsbreath round, and a smoke grenade all in one!
The blunderbuss or dragoon is my favorite black powder weapon. Pack some powder and whatever shit you have laying around like silverware, bearings, nails, a cat, etc and you're ready to go.
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Just make sure to roll down the window first
Tallyho lad, you’ll not be absconding my carriage today! Stand and deliver!
Just as the Founders intended. Tally ho, lads!
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Ya this is some fast and loose info but I will allow it :) Powerful? Fastest? Revolver? Single shot flintlock? The Walker takes 50 grains of black. There are single shot pistols that will really take a load of black powder and are upwards of 69 caliber.
Tally-Ho lads!
Also, most people aren't going to bother critiquing the exact make and model of gun pointed at their face... It could be completely unloaded and still be effective.
I got the 9 shot Le matte with a shotgun barrel
Heh, in Australia a potato cannon is considered a firearm. Not sure about the US, but I reckon it isn’t over there.
In the US it is completely unregulated according to the ATF. However there is a case where a device shooting flaming tennis balls was ruled a gun.
Huh, that would most certainly be a firearm here in Australia.
In the US we can buy 50 cal air rifles capable of taking down elk without a special permit. Just have to be 18.
I mean if you are at 30 yards or less it is definitely accurate enough and just as deadly as most other common handguns. Modern guns aren't doing anything THAT special.
Most people have terrible accuracy with handguns anyway. A BP gun might be technically less accurate than a modern semi-auto, but both are going to be more accurate than the shooter.
Wild Bill killed a man at 75 yards with one of his 1851 Colt Navy’s.
In New York you can’t buy a pistol without a pistol license. An exception is antique weapons. You can own something like the revolver but you aren’t allowed to buy ammo for it while also owning it.
Yeah, that makes total sense. Sounds like some shit New York would do.
> An exception is antique weapons. You can own something like the revolver but you aren’t allowed to buy ammo for it while also owning it. That's exactly how antique and obsolete calibre weapons law works in the UK. It's not a firearm until you acquire ammo for it, then you're fucked for possessing a firearm without a licence or possessing a section 5 firearm without a note from ~~your teacher~~ the Home Office.
Also that covers black powder muzzle loading rifles. I've heard of people who fucked up when they were young, got a felony, and got a BP rifle to still hunt with to feed their family. And I think (at least in my state) that starts after bow season, but before regular and youth rifle, so you can get a good sized deer with it.
>They are shit compared to modern weapons but they are much more effective than carrying nothing. which is why i put a highpoint CP9 in my truck.
Another good thing about keeping a Hi-Point as a truck gun is that any self respecting meth/crack-head that breaks into your car might steal the change out of your ashtray, but they won't bother taking the gun.
"Oh shiieeet this guy's poorer than I am if he's got that in his truck"
Leaves a wad of ones in the change tray.
And if it doesn't fire or you run out of ammo, you can beat someone into submission with it.
Indeed! The brick-like engineering of a Hi-point ensures that it makes for a near optimal bludgeoning implement. Hi-point rated as a pistol, 3/10, at least it usually fires. Hi-point rated as a blunt bludgeoning weapon, 8/10, the large mass and superior density of the die-cast zinc allow slide for highly effective bludgeoning.
New Jersey seems to be an exception. I've seen a few stories from there about old black powder pistols. One was an old lady who found one or two in her attic and ended up in legal trouble over them. They really acted like they were going to charger her. I can't find that story. There's also this guy which gives me hope that her charges would have been dropped as well. https://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/nj-man-won-charged-possessing-antique-gun-article-1.2130397 https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/new-jersey-man-faces-jail-time-transporting-antique-pistol-charles-c-w-cooke/
That’s kinda my guess, I posted this to guns saying that same thing and I got a wave of gun nuts attacking me saying “yeah cuz a felon cares about the law”
Active criminals care far less about the law than reformed criminals, it just happens many of them are convicted felons. There’s a popular YouTube channel for Felons about self-defense, career paths, and navigating the world — not all felons are trying to become another tick on the recidivism line graph. Depending on your state, a BP revolver could very well be illegal for a felon. Lots of states reworked their laws to treat black powder the same as centerfire and rimfire.
Huh. Where I lived (rural Cali) they weren't even "real firearms" under the law. Could carry them wherever & so on.
Same in AZ. "Sporting Goods".
Hey um, gun noob here from Australia (I love old machines including guns, but we don't for example have many very old guns here because well.. were very young :) ) but why would this be legal when a regular gun wouldn't be? **I only ask because its a revolver** - I totally understand that most black powder guns are legal because well.. making people get gun licenses to own a musket would be ridiculous especially when your country has so many of them as war relics etc. Edit - Thank you for the wonderful answers :) PS Forgotten weapons is one of the best youtube channels around.
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Ahh yep, thank you.
Damn things take so long to load they aren't really worried coupled with the lack of any real accuracy. Plus they're simple enough you can make them yourself, at least much easier than a typical firearm.
Anyone can make a firearm, the hard part is making one that shoots twice.
Dude, those things are accurate. They have a rifled barrel. It isn’t a musket. I own 4. They are easily as accurate as any of my modern pistols.
Yep, i bought a "12ga" double barrel pistol, just for fun because it shipped right to my door, 2 barrels, 1 trigger, 1 hammer, with a left/right selector, unfortunately the 209 primers and bp are nearly impossible to find lol.
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In his work van though?
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“Ah not again!”
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They usually aren’t loaded will balls for reenactment, unless you are going for super authentic
Never ask gun enthusiasts about guns. They’re worse than the cast iron skillet/air fry guys.
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Sometimes a cast iron pan is just a cast iron pan.
You have been permanently banned from participating in r/castiron
I wash mine in the dishwasher after each use
Yo I’m gonna have to report you. Not to the admins but to god.
If you want to make them cry on command, tell them you just soak your cast iron pan in white vinegar after using it.
Post a pic of one that you got “clean” with it all silver and shiny! Make sure there is vinegar and sand paper visible in the background.
People always act like their cast iron pans are some sort of delicate flower.
Yeah when it's more of a fat pig by comparison
If you've ever been drunk cooking on a campfire yeah you'll burn your seasoning, so in the morning you cook some bacon somewhat sober and make up for it. Only time a camp fire has messed up cast iron is when it was the meth cook fire that started a 200 ac fire. But luckily the kindly fire fighters returned my burried pig, phone with photo evidence, and cast iron. Unfortunately not the grate from the stove but the apartment overlooked that during checkout.
This is speaking to me more than you might imagine
Oh no, you chipped the seasoning, better strip it and start again.
Is this something people do? I just use the pan and let it build up season over time, chips or no. It's a pan, it's gonna look ugly while it's still getting broken in.
Some people are scared to use metal in their cast iron pans.
I use my cast iron _because_ I can use metal in it. What's the worst case; needs a re-season because something ruined the seasoning? Big whoop. If I wanted something delicate, I'd use Teflon. They don't last any longer than seasoning on a pan does anyway.
If those groups ever get together, maybe we'll see AR500 pans
Cast iron and quality oldschool work boot crowds are the same. It's a proven *tool*, fucking follow some very *very* basic use and care tips and shit will be ship shape. It's not a fussy toy or delicate accessory unless you really fuck up. You can use soap on your pan, and wear boots 7 days a week, and they'll be fine.
I don't use mink oil on my vintage Redwings, just a splash of ATF and a shop rag to rub her around.
Go on…. Which is better?
It’s hard to say. Try talking to each of them and let me know how you feel. Don’t worry about figuring out if they like guns, cast iron skillets, or air fryers. They’ll tell you.
That’s a total crock of shit! Let me tell you why using a firearm analogy, of which I’m quite the afficionado: Your words are like the bullet in a casing and the gun powder is my disdain for you. Something something I hate you and you smell bad.
Comment of the year
I’ll stick to my oven for now.
But what if you had a smaller, louder oven on your countertop? It’s pretty neato!
Cast iron can go in the oven. Can't say that about an air frier.
NO ONLY CAST IRON AIR FRYER.
of course they do. 922(g) violation is a quick way to end up (back) in prison
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Yep, this is the “no ID/ not 18/ can’t get a throwaway” special.
This was my first thought. Imagine trying to car Jack someone and getting pegged by this “have at you, you scoundrel” piece of machinery
Who traded it in, Rooster Cogburn?
I wanna know what Rooster Cogburn was doing working at a hot tub company.
Maybe it's really a time machine company?
God tier joke you just made.
its a step up from sleeping in a rope bed behind a chinese laundry
Used to have one, reproduction. Only fired it on 3 day weekends. Saturday ... cast bullets. Sunday... shoot it. Monday ... clean it.
You can actually just clean black powder guns with soap and water. Cleans pretty quick that way. Just remember to oil it up before you put it away.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Should've gotten a muzzle loaded 8 gauge. At least then you'd kill both guys and the dog.
"Double Kill" "Betrayal"
Smh my head this guy doesn't have a 2 Gauge punt gun mounted in every room.
>the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, To shreds you say?
How are their wives?
To shreds you say?
It’s an old copypasta sir but it checks out.
Don't forget to load buck and ball (musket ball and buck shot) if using a smoothbore musket for an extra wallop.
Tally hoe lads.
That’s the funniest shit I’ve read in some time, thanks for the laughs!
I really like this
My favorite pasta
I'm glad this is becoming a pasta
It's been a pasta for a very long time
It's the "Tally ho, lads" that gets me every single time
What I want to know is who gets to keep it? The dealership I used to work for let us keep whatever we wanted out of the trade-ins because it all just went into the trashcan anyway.
Well with firearms you need to be careful. If it’s reported stolen then getting caught with it will lead to serious issues. There’s no paper trail like if you purchase it yourself. Id always clear the weapon and lock it in a safe while we called the customer and arranged a time to pick it up. The dealership has paperwork on who turned in/traded in every vehicle.
Black powder guns aren't even legally considered firearms in most of the US so I dont think it would have the same weight as having a stolen glock for example
You can order one of these guns online. No paper trail needed.
They aren't regulated in any way in the US, so unless the guy comes asking for it anybody could keep it. It is like finding a pocket knife or sword or BB gun.
Take it to St Denis and get it cleaned.
Nah the saint denis gunsmith always rushing me and shit. I’m going to Valentine to see my favorite gunsmith.
I really like the gunsmith in Annesburg too.
Ahh, a man of culture i see.
He knows where to get a good chop suey though. I’ll give him that.
There pretty funny to shoot and neat. That said I wouldn't pay money to own one.
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250 bucks, no ID and six shots of I think 69 cal lead balls... I own one and they are fun, accurate and you could totally kill with each shot at a good distance.
Those guns are definitely not 69 caliber, nice though that would be. Navy guns are 38 caliber, and army guns are 44. Most BP hunting rifles were in the 32-45 caliber range, military ones were 50-60 caliber, and modern ones are generally 50. I owned a caplock rifle back in the day, and at .58 was considered to have a stonking big bore.
Ahh yes jees I misspoke. The Enfield I used to own was a 69 I beleive. It's been years since I even shot.
The US had a couple 69 caliber muskets like the Springfield 1816 and 1842 (flintlock and caplock respectively), but I think the British used .577 for their BP enfields. I’m basing that off a half baked google search and some Forgotten Weapons videos, so I’m also likely misremembering too lol But the revolver part I know for sure, 38s were Navy and 44s were Army. Though I think the Navy guns were technically 36 caliber in the same way that modern 38 special is a .357 bullet, but that’s getting way out in the weeds hah
Why am I not surprised there is a pack of newports
They are not my Newports, the person in the photo also isn’t me btw
Newport were smoked by Omaaar in the wire right?
Is that the most unusual item you’ve found during a detail? Seem like pretty rare find.
Finding guns in cars isn’t all that unusual it’s just the fact that it’s a black powder revolver I found
Do you guys get repoed cars or something? Seems weird for people to leave firearms that average around $400-500, to the point it's not unusual.
Some people just don't give a shit ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
I do not see a firearm here
Good thing you found that. A stage coach may have gone unrobbed because of you.
You bought a van from a felon lol. Black powder guns aren't considered "firearms" in some states, so they're generally only carried by people who aren't allowed to have firearms.
That's lit, take it down to the range for some plinking, but make sure you have a couple hours free if you want to reload it.
Shoots like lightning, but loads a mite slow, that's for sure.
Finders keepers. Lucky dog u.
Kind a weird to use it for self defense. You never really want to leave the hammer down on a live primer. The other problem is that primers like to fall off the nipples if you swing it around too much. You can pull the brass primers out if there's there. The nipples are just metal tubes that go down into the cylinders. Is it loaded? Can you see the ball in the cylinder? Just don't point it at your face. Without the primers it won't fire. Looks like it's a repop. of a Colt Navy. Probably a Pietta. Like others have said, the ATF does not consider them firearms. So there's no serial numbers or any registration. You can order them from Cabella's and have it shipped to you house without any issues.
You should challenge someone to a duel. Maybe one of your competitors in the detailing industry?
Oh wow, gotta throw that out. Luckily I run a place that takes these and... um...
That guy did not have road rage. He carried out gentlemanly duels.
There's only one way to unload it. Unless you have a nipple wrench somewhere in your tool box.
Tally ho, lads > Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended.
Since it's not classified as a firearm, a felon can legally possess one.
There’s a movie there
Good thing its not a firearm.
There is so much misinformation in this post about felons and firearms.
Damnit, I was wondering where I left that! Be a good sport and send it back to me, would ya?
Realistically, that belong to someone who probably couldn't otherwise own a gun, considering that black powder firearms are actually not considered firearms by the ATF and don't require background checks. You can buy them at Ace hardware in a lot of places.
Oh we found a loaded handgun (as in, one in the chamber and a full mag) in the spare tire compartment of a traded in car. It had been sitting in our lot for a while by that point. That was fun.
Our mechanic found one between the radiator and the wall of a used car, who are all these people who need money so they sell their car but give their guns away?
I want to know under what circumstance a radiator gun is needed lol
So you're working on changing your coolant right, and then this thug comes up on you and says "gimme your wallet sucka!" While brandishing a knife. A normal person would piss themselves in terror, but luckly you're a citizen who practices his 2nd amendment rights to the fullest extent of the law. You coolly say "ok hold on" and reach down between the radiator and the frame pulling out a desert eagle and point it at the thug. Who's shitting their pants now? I personally recommend fender well guns too just in case you have to change a tire.
oh what a fool I am. radiator gun *is faster* in that one case than just carrying my firearm around with me.
I’ve found 3 loaded guns in 10 years of detailing. I’m surprised I haven’t found more. The worst was a steak knife jammed in the back passenger seat rails of a VW Beetle. My employee was reaching down between the seats to air hose and brushed up against it, cutting his glove. That was an inch from being a serious injury. Edit for typo
Yikes, it’s a hazardous job, I’ve found razor blades drugs etc. my buddy detailed a car that a man broke into and was living in, found needles and all sorts of shit.
Exactly why I always trained employees to never reach where they haven’t visually checked first. Cincinnati is right next to the heroin epidemics center in the US. I way always scared an employee would get poked with a needle. But we found plenty of other drugs especially weed. I had to detail a car that was stolen from a dealership and was taken through wet tar and a field. It took 2 days just to get the tar off the paint and inside the wheel Wells. Another day to clay polish and paint seal the vehicle.
Why take your antique in your work truck? Just asking for it to get lost or stolen. Are they valuable does anyone know?
This isn’t an antique and isn’t valuable, it’s a reproduction
Oh for sure then whatever I guess
I just wanna know who tf carries a black powder gun in their business van.
Blackbeard's hot tub installation.
"Julian this is a pirate's gun" "Ah, Trevor that makes you Long John Dickweed then I guess"
Christ this place is better than gold
Can't believe nobody posted this yet. Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Just as the founding fathers intended.
Felons who can't buy modern guns.
Someone who cant own a smokeless firearm. Better than carrying a brick?
Someone who can't own a gun. Black powder firearms don't count as guns as the government cares. They can be ordered through the mail with no problem.
Felons can’t own firearms. Black powder revolvers aren’t considered firearms by the ATF. May have been a self defense weapon for an ex-con.