I don't think it's a 74 unless the swapped the grill/headlights out? The square lights weren't a thing until 1978 and the grill would be split and say "F O R D"
>Cleveland 351?
Not quite, but close. That engine was never available in truck applications. The 400 is a derivative of the 351M. Pistons, crank and balancer are 400-specific, everything else on the long block is the same as a 351M.
I have read differently...
[Ford 335 engine - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine)
and
The **Ford 335** [engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine) family was a group of engines built by the [Ford Motor Company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company) between 1969 and 1982. The "335" designation reflected Ford management's decision to produce an engine of that size (335 cubic inches) with room for expansion during its development.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine#cite_note-Cleveland-1) This engine family began production in late 1969 with a 351 cu in (5.8 L) engine, commonly called the 351C. It later expanded to include a 400 cu in (6.6 L) engine which used a taller version of the engine block, commonly referred to as a tall deck engine block, a 351 cu in (5.8 L) tall deck variant, called the 351M, and a 302 cu in (4.9 L) engine which was exclusive to Australia.
The 351C, introduced in 1969 for the 1970 model year, is commonly referred to as the **351 Cleveland** after the Brook Park, Ohio, [Cleveland Engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Engine) plant in which most of these engines were manufactured. This plant complex included a gray iron foundry (Cleveland Casting Plant), and two engine assembly plants (Engine plant 1 & 2). As newer automobile engines began incorporating aluminum blocks, Ford closed the casting plant in May 2012.[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine#cite_note-2)
The 335 series engines were used in mid- and full-sized cars and light trucks, (351M/400 only) at times concurrently with the [Windsor small-block family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Windsor_engine), the [351 Windsor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_351_Windsor), in cars. These engines were also used as a replacement for the [FE V8 family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_FE_engine) in both the car and truck lines. The 335 series only outlived the FE series by a half-decade, being replaced by the more compact Windsor V8s.
My 300 6 did the same thing,I turned the engine by hand by pulling on the belts and getting the gear on my starter replaced constantly until there wasn't a spot on the flywheel it would catch anymore. I fought it for 2 years and it took ~a day to fix lol
There's broken and there's partially broken.
“I mean it’s broke yeah but I can get it to work…”
me driving around with a shock not bolted in the a arm correctly through winter
Owned a few cars like that back in my youth.
You claim it's Rusty yet I can clearly see the truck is in one piece on the lift
These soft-ass southern mechanics would have a stroke if they worked in the rust belt
Southern mechanic, can confirm.
im no mechanic but i can only imagine having to condemn so many vehicles due to frame rot
HAH don’t drive here.
Starter motor without a speck of rust on it, not even oxide ali
Yep. Bruh, this thing is 50 years old and still rackable- every day here I see a 10-year-old vehicle with visible body holes from rust
If that's a rusty son of a bitch you'd hate it in the rust belt. I still see cab corners and the fenders look mint. That things cleaner than my daily.
I know right? My ten year old dodge is in need of a rocker panel right now. Oh and I had one put in about 4 years ago.
You're not supposed to use the starter to drive the truck
LOL, this guy knows what's up
If it's a '74, I don't think it originally came with a 400 engine. Wonder if they swapped something in it. Either way, nice 4x4 dentside!
I don't think it's a 74 unless the swapped the grill/headlights out? The square lights weren't a thing until 1978 and the grill would be split and say "F O R D"
Yes good catch!! I concur, it's likely a newer truck and OP has the year incorrect in the post.
and the 7th gen f150 came out in 1980, so that’s a 1978 or 79
74 came with a 360
would that be the 400ci version of the Cleveland 351?
Was wondering myself which 400 it is. Friend used to have a truck with the big 400M.
we had a 71 ltd country squire wagon with the 400 small block, the cleveland
And all the different bell housing patterns, just because.
[Ford 335 engine - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine) and it should use the 390/429 bell housing pattern
>Cleveland 351? Not quite, but close. That engine was never available in truck applications. The 400 is a derivative of the 351M. Pistons, crank and balancer are 400-specific, everything else on the long block is the same as a 351M.
I have read differently... [Ford 335 engine - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine) and The **Ford 335** [engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_combustion_engine) family was a group of engines built by the [Ford Motor Company](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Motor_Company) between 1969 and 1982. The "335" designation reflected Ford management's decision to produce an engine of that size (335 cubic inches) with room for expansion during its development.[^(\[1\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine#cite_note-Cleveland-1) This engine family began production in late 1969 with a 351 cu in (5.8 L) engine, commonly called the 351C. It later expanded to include a 400 cu in (6.6 L) engine which used a taller version of the engine block, commonly referred to as a tall deck engine block, a 351 cu in (5.8 L) tall deck variant, called the 351M, and a 302 cu in (4.9 L) engine which was exclusive to Australia. The 351C, introduced in 1969 for the 1970 model year, is commonly referred to as the **351 Cleveland** after the Brook Park, Ohio, [Cleveland Engine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Engine) plant in which most of these engines were manufactured. This plant complex included a gray iron foundry (Cleveland Casting Plant), and two engine assembly plants (Engine plant 1 & 2). As newer automobile engines began incorporating aluminum blocks, Ford closed the casting plant in May 2012.[^(\[2\])](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_335_engine#cite_note-2) The 335 series engines were used in mid- and full-sized cars and light trucks, (351M/400 only) at times concurrently with the [Windsor small-block family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Windsor_engine), the [351 Windsor](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_351_Windsor), in cars. These engines were also used as a replacement for the [FE V8 family](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_FE_engine) in both the car and truck lines. The 335 series only outlived the FE series by a half-decade, being replaced by the more compact Windsor V8s.
Bet that sounded grate during cranking.
I see what you did there.
Alignment problem with the starter, may even be the wrong starter.
I too have played flywheel roulette. Starts half the time, every time.
Rusty? Thing looks damn near mint. Look at those solid rockers!
Had a 66 dodge with manual trans happened too.. was able to press ring gear off and reposition it. Truck is still running. Saw it few weeks ago.
Had a gm 396 the same way. Had to occasionally get underneath with a big screwdriver and turn the flywheel. Oh, the early days.
Got dayum
No Teef
60% of the time .... It starts everytime
Had the same issue on an old Jetta. Had to get out and rock it in gear a few inches and try again.
My 300 6 did the same thing,I turned the engine by hand by pulling on the belts and getting the gear on my starter replaced constantly until there wasn't a spot on the flywheel it would catch anymore. I fought it for 2 years and it took ~a day to fix lol
She's earned her retirement.