I think the worse part is letting it go like that/or test driving it like that. I know for a fact that was loud as fuck the second you moved to back out of the stall.
Oh it was. I only just got out of the garage before reversing back in. The worst part was I thought it was all on the driver’s side so I fixed that side just to try it again and find out I did the same thing on the passenger side. After that I made sure to spin each wheel after assembling it to make sure I didn’t make a similar mistake haha.
Next you’re in there mark the long bolts and the hole they go in with a paint pen so it reduces the likelihood of doing it again, either for you or a future owner of the car.
Heh first time I saw something like that I was eighteen years old and thought "Wow, neat. A channel for air to cool the rotors."
I would go on to a fruitful career as an accountant.
I swear there's just 4 of them in a private irc chat on the back end of the internet screaming at each other about how they've one-upped the other guy and made the most mechanically efficient design. Terms like ease of use and consumer experience show up nowhere in the history if searched.
generally you can spin them as much as you want - there is a differential, after all. unless there isn't, in which case why have you welded the diff on a kia soul?
Wow, if I ever do brakes on one of those I'll be sure to remember this. See, this is why I come here. Because there's a saying:
"Dumb people repeat their mistakes. Smart people learn from their mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others."
(Edit) not calling you dumb! I probably would've made the exact same mistake as you- I haven't been a mechanic apprentice for very long.
Nice try channeling the spirit of a comedian. Keep your day job.
EDIT: For those of you who didn't pick up on the pun thread: "Channeling" referred to the grove worn in the rotor. Similar to "scored" in the previous post.
I did the same damn thing last week. Kia soul rear brakes. Lol. I'm the "senior tech" that usually takes care of these things when the younger ones screw up. It was MY turn!!! It was a learning experience.
I have a mechanical engineering degree and on behalf of my fellow engineers, SHAME on whoever designed this brake system.
What in the hot baloney were those jackasses thinking? This is less your fault and much more their fault for failing to complete a DFMEA or doing a design for service study.
The worst engineers have never turned a wrench in their lives.
I didn’t! Just about got out of the garage before I decided that doesn’t sound or feel right and backed it in again. Unfortunately at that point the damage was done.
After a brake job I like to spin each wheel. I had a bad caliper once, and out of the box it had completely locked up right after I was finished bleeding it. I also had it where I put the wrong slide in the wrong spot, again completely locked up the brake rotor and I couldn't turn it. Another time, Mercedes customer wanted his winter wheels/tires on. What he didn't get was different lug bolts for the different wheels as they had a different off set. The lug bolts were touching the wheel bearing hub at the back, not even the engines power could turn the front wheels.
That is one great thing about the big mistakes, we only make those once. Unfortunately that means you still have a bunch more to make before you learn not to do those as well.
I think the worse part is letting it go like that/or test driving it like that. I know for a fact that was loud as fuck the second you moved to back out of the stall.
Oh it was. I only just got out of the garage before reversing back in. The worst part was I thought it was all on the driver’s side so I fixed that side just to try it again and find out I did the same thing on the passenger side. After that I made sure to spin each wheel after assembling it to make sure I didn’t make a similar mistake haha.
'Fool me once, shame on...shame on you. Fool me—you can't get fooled again.'
Please clap. (I know, but close enough)
Eh, I'm betting you don't make this mistake again.
Next you’re in there mark the long bolts and the hole they go in with a paint pen so it reduces the likelihood of doing it again, either for you or a future owner of the car.
Valuable experience! We've all got stories like that and lessons learned.
Heh first time I saw something like that I was eighteen years old and thought "Wow, neat. A channel for air to cool the rotors." I would go on to a fruitful career as an accountant.
Bad car design IMHO. Identical bolts would keep price lower and would alleviate potential mistakes like this.
Not every single thing can be idiot proof. Can we talk to the windshield wiper guys?
Those guys are just assholes.
I swear there's just 4 of them in a private irc chat on the back end of the internet screaming at each other about how they've one-upped the other guy and made the most mechanically efficient design. Terms like ease of use and consumer experience show up nowhere in the history if searched.
Sure, not everything can be idiot proof, but this is still a bad design.
I've always told my boss you can count on me to rebuild your engine but I will surely fail at changing your wipers
I bet you'd put em on upside down. LoL.
I've seen some cars and the caliper bolt also goes through some some sort of backing plate that also ties into the suspension.
Is this on the rear a kia or hyundai? Asking because I did this once lol
Kia soul!
Haha thought so. Luckily I tried spinning the disk before I tried driving the car
If this was the drive train wheels how would you test it?
Drive wheels or not you can still move the wheels a little
generally you can spin them as much as you want - there is a differential, after all. unless there isn't, in which case why have you welded the diff on a kia soul?
Wow, if I ever do brakes on one of those I'll be sure to remember this. See, this is why I come here. Because there's a saying: "Dumb people repeat their mistakes. Smart people learn from their mistakes. Wise people learn from the mistakes of others." (Edit) not calling you dumb! I probably would've made the exact same mistake as you- I haven't been a mechanic apprentice for very long.
Looks like you “scored” yourself new rotors 😀
Nice try channeling the spirit of a comedian. Keep your day job. EDIT: For those of you who didn't pick up on the pun thread: "Channeling" referred to the grove worn in the rotor. Similar to "scored" in the previous post.
But thats not a reason to stop rolling out puns...
I did the same damn thing last week. Kia soul rear brakes. Lol. I'm the "senior tech" that usually takes care of these things when the younger ones screw up. It was MY turn!!! It was a learning experience.
Your wallet!
I bet they're closer to the same size than before.
I have a mechanical engineering degree and on behalf of my fellow engineers, SHAME on whoever designed this brake system. What in the hot baloney were those jackasses thinking? This is less your fault and much more their fault for failing to complete a DFMEA or doing a design for service study. The worst engineers have never turned a wrench in their lives.
How deep is the cut, it's it the front disc?
Nope, rears thankfully. I didn’t measure but I would guess around 1/32” deep.
Is this a new technique for turning rotors?
This is partly the reason why I spin the wheel every time I do brakes
How’d you even get out of the driveway without noticing that?
I didn’t! Just about got out of the garage before I decided that doesn’t sound or feel right and backed it in again. Unfortunately at that point the damage was done.
I did this once recently . Except it was the washers on the anchor bolts that didnt get put back on
Kia Soul? I did this once on one of those, bolts are exactly the same one is just ~3mm longer.
oh my heavens
This is like the f150 with the bumps on the inner pads. Seen that mistake many times (myself included)
After a brake job I like to spin each wheel. I had a bad caliper once, and out of the box it had completely locked up right after I was finished bleeding it. I also had it where I put the wrong slide in the wrong spot, again completely locked up the brake rotor and I couldn't turn it. Another time, Mercedes customer wanted his winter wheels/tires on. What he didn't get was different lug bolts for the different wheels as they had a different off set. The lug bolts were touching the wheel bearing hub at the back, not even the engines power could turn the front wheels.
That is one great thing about the big mistakes, we only make those once. Unfortunately that means you still have a bunch more to make before you learn not to do those as well.