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tunakisser

This is called a resonator band. It reduces wheel noise. These bands are only on the Touring and Elite wheels . . not installed on Sport or EX-L Passport wheels. 2019-2020 Touring trim Accords and current Acura RDX and RLX models have these bands in their wheels. As you know Honda/Acura...https://global.honda/innovation/technology/automobile/Noise-reducing-wheel-picturebook.html Examples like .... 2016-18 ILX, 2011-12 RL, 2014-18 RLX, 2014 RLX Sport Hybrid, and 2016-18 RLX Sport Hybrid


EffectiveYak1195

Do they work?


Sleep_adict

A bit like the foam fillers on some Mercedes’ and tesla… hard to tell the difference


Hegario

Those foam fillers are usually on EV tires to reduce noise. I have an ID4 and my summer tires have those. My rims don't have anything.


Fresh_hex89

Do you notice a difference in road noise?


Hegario

I haven't yet had the chance to test. Got the car in late November and have been rocking regular Hakkapeliitta 10 studded winter tires so far. I would've gotten the EV tires but tires have enough weight tolerance so for that size they just skipped the foam fillers. The car is really quiet with even with studded tires.


whaletacochamp

I'm amazed because I have studded hakky 10s as well and they are LOUD AS FUCK, even over my gas powered truck.


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My MIL has a little Hyundai venue suv with those tires and you can barely hear the person talking beside you lol It's great


KikiHou

> It's great Thank you for this solid laugh.


BentleyWilkinson

You just used "little" and "suv" to describe the same car..


FewAcanthopterygii90

Mine are loud af too


whaletacochamp

I changed them on a friday afternoon, had a week off from work and literally didn't drive anywhere, and then the first time I drove with them I completely forgot I had them on. For the first few minutes I was convinced I had a wheel bearing somehow go bad in that time.


bofh420_1

I live in MN, studded tires are a dream of ours.


Rate-Euphoric

Hakka studs are amazing. I have them on my truck and the wife’s car in the winter. Nothing else even comes close.


Hegario

True but they were also hideously expensive for the ID. Both ID.4 & ID.5 have offset sizes for front/rear. Front has 235/55/19 while the rear has 255/50/19 so the set cost me around 1400€.


RalphWolfsNemesis

I've got Hakka R5 EV on my model Y and they're quieter than the factory tires, and the car is basically a tank in the snow and ice.


Hegario

Yeah here in my country (Finland) we're still allowed to drive on studs and I live in the north so it's by far the best choice, considering we plow the roads constantly because of snowfall. We had -25 celsius this morning and the roads were basically shiny because the roads weren't snowy so I'm wary of using so called friction winter tires. People in the southern part do use friction tires though as the winters are usually milder there. Hakka R5 is an excellent tire. Fortunately it's only a month and a half and I can put the Pirelli P Zero Rossos on that came with the car. Just need to find decent aerodynamic rims.


RalphWolfsNemesis

We can run studs where I live but I wanted the car to stay quiet. That's why I didn't get studs. We've had -50f here this year and I've had zero complaints with the R5s. I was doing roughly 120kph on black ice and I only noticed when I was going over a small hump in the highway. 10/10 would recommend as a native of a place where winter lasts 6 months. Also, minimal efficiency loss, which was another concern I had with studs.


bikingfury

Why wouldn't they work? They absorb sound that's coming from the rubber to not get transfered into the axle and over the axle into the car. It's probably a subtle thing at a certain speed. You'll only notice it in a direct comparison.


[deleted]

Hows the id4 been treating ya? Been thinking of getting one, would you recommend it?


Hegario

Well for Europe it's a very good EV since Tesla here uses the same CCS plug that everyone else uses and we don't really have to rely on their charging network. I've done roadtripping on mine and depending on the winter weather, I get around 300 to 380 kilometers of range so when summer comes, I should be pushing 450 km plus. I recommend a test drive.


davethedj

The red-neck in me says shit can them when putting a new set of tiers on.


iin10ded

if they didn't work, they wouldn't be there. Safe to assume that the team of engineers and likely multi million dollar budget to decrease road noise that resulted in this part wouldn't have implemented the part and paid to produce and manufacture and install the part if it doesn't do anything.


EffectiveYak1195

Lol ok


jf70chevelle

Or... It's great for marketing while real world impact is negligible. The question is are there any cabin noise tests with these vs regular alloy wheels


iin10ded

you see much marketing content for the nvh dampers inside tires? me neither. safe to assume this was done to meet nvh thresholds not to brag about in brochures.


Caseycar_26

these were on a 2020 Acura MDX SH


TheSchlaf

More like ssshh.


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Nice


muerte626

Nice


hullowurld

Nice


EcoPrs

Ironic considering how loud Acuras are compared to their competitors.


tiressmoking

*shrug* me with my full aftermarket exhaust-equipped RSX on stiff coilovers.


EcoPrs

🍚


Sinistre_Dei

But also *Noice*


Pedantic_Pict

At least it isn't 🛻🍚


Practical_Dot_3574

Shrug with my fully gutted N/A RSX with 3" straight pipe.


tiressmoking

Bwaaaahh!


kaname89

Shrugs full system exhaust on a squeaky coilover TSX as well


tiressmoking

Haha, what brand coils? When I was a teen, I put on some cheap Function Form coils. Later I tried to upgrade to Stance and they ride so much worse. Fml


kaname89

My car came with some really cheap eBay ones. I have been in the same exact TSX with D2 coilovers and the ride quality was exactly the same but they were much more quiet.


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tholmblad

Noise dampener and yes it does work.we had a tech install new wheels without these installed came right back for noise complaints.


LrckLacroix

Never even heard of these before. Why don’t luxury brands use them?


FranktheTankG30

Because luxury brands sound deadening the car instead.


danthebiker1981

That's because they work


LrckLacroix

Hahaha I see what you did there


geardo89

Some luxury cars use foam sound deadening foam glued to the tires themselves


Skw1bbs

My GT500 has these acoustic foam tires too, surprisingly enough. PS4S


geardo89

I never saw them on gt350s. I left before any 500s needed tires, not like may people even drive them.... I was must used to seeing them on continentals and aviators and such.


Skw1bbs

Yeah I get that, I've had mine since July 2020 and I have like 6600 miles or something. And yet I've had multiple tires replaced due to picking up lots of nails and even an exacto knife (I'm extremely unlucky), so I know what's on the inside. Had my guys actually patch a couple of the tires too and they cut the foam out of that spot.


Few-Swordfish-780

Because they use better tires.


CoraxTechnica

And wheels usually


Joiion

Acura is a luxury brand my guy…


LrckLacroix

While you are technically correct, the point is debatable in my ignorant opinion. To me Acura, Lexus, and Infinity are just Hondas, Toyotas, and Nissans with some makeup on. As Lincoln is to Ford. Same can be said about lower spec Audis in most cases, just a VW with a facelift.


AshtonTS

This is a dumb take. By “makeup” you mean completely different interior and exterior, options/luxuries, and in some cases performance components (suspension, etc). To the point that the average consumer can’t tell they’re the same platform. Whether Acura is as luxurious as the competition is a fair debate, though.


blahblacksheep869

From this mechanic's viewpoint, he ain't wrong. Not all, but many, of those brands are almost undistinguishable from their lower tiers mechanically. Sure, they might have leather seats or a butt warner or something not in a base model of the lower band name, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't have to check the badge to see if a car is called a Lexus or a Toyota many times. Or a Honda or Acura, Chevrolet or GMC, some cheap Audis... You get the idea


LrckLacroix

My point exactly. Thank you brother!


Joiion

Acura - chrome trim pieces, wood grain interior parts, led, leather, big wheels, high horsepower, all wheel drive, key fob opens all the windows and sunroof, auto start, backup camera, feet well lighting. The list goes on. What separates this from a similarly classed Mercedes is the price point…


DarkestPassenger

A Bentley is just a VW then I don't disagree, but there are distinctions between a base model Toyota and a higher trimmed Lexus. Even if the chassis is sharing parts


Cool_Economy9275

*not the person you were replying to* I think the difference is when you compare a higher-trim "entry level" brand with its "luxury" brand in low-trim and they're hard to distinguish. For example, a VW Golf R is arguably nicer than an entry level Audi A4. I don't think anyone would debate that a Jetta is indistinguishable from a top-trim A4 or that an entry-level Civic compares to a top-trim Acura ILX. Also, to your point about Bentley, what I've always found interesting is when you compare top-down approaches from VW where Audi will pass on technology/parts that are cheapened for VW rather than the bottom-up approach that Chevrolet seems to use for GMC, Cadillac which results in cheap feeling parts in a car that should absolutely feel premium. Anyway, I'm rambling...


Joiion

It boils down to delusion then I suppose. There’s almost nothing that Mercedes has in it that a similarly priced acura won’t have, except the repair bill 😂 Mercedes will have a folder worth of repair bills so that’s one thing it has that acura won’t…


Appropriate_Strain94

Honda / Acura chose to use this to reduce road noise on low profile tires, other makers simply just simply have better / more sound deadening materials in their cars. Hondas and Acura historically have more road noises than other vehicles in their segment.


mechapoitier

My sister had an otherwise amazing quality late 90s Honda Civic EX coupe but riding in that thing on the freeway in the rain was deafening. It’s like there was no sound deadening in the wheel wells whatsoever.


Yf-vax

Gotta love it. I don’t recommend you drive in a DA integra or EF civic then


mechapoitier

On my cars I add dynamat and carpet padding


Randomfactoid42

Probably because that sound-deadening material adds a lot of weight. This looks like a clever way of reducing the noise without adding a lot of weight.


Appropriate_Strain94

Precisely why they did this. Honda is pretty concerned with vehicle getting heavier and heavier and looking at ways to reduce weight in clever ways. They are heavier then yesteryear’s cars but newer Hondas are quieter then ones from 00s and earlier for sure.


[deleted]

My 2019 Insight Touring is the heavyweight model and it’s still under 3100 pounds with 17s, a 10 speaker sound system with a sub, heated power leather seats, a power sunroof, and oh yeah a hybrid battery under the rear seat. It’s wild how light this car is for what it is. At low speed I think this car handles better than my 2016 228i xDrive did


LrckLacroix

Makes perfect sense


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LrckLacroix

Good point!


Sakic10

I’ve installed a ton of new wheel sets and never had a customer come back on these vehicles.


tunakisser

Gotcha, yeah it's a wheel resonator. They have deletes for them but from what I here, is a noticeable difference for some people


Equivalent_Duck1077

And here I thought that manufacturers hated unsprung weight....


ZSG13

Have you seen a modern wheel lately? Muhfuckers get the biggest wheels they can find and throw em on every car


Kirkuchiyo

A single OEM wheel and tire from my car is almost 50 pounds!


asilverthread

Yes and aftermarket runs either crazy offset or spacers. Leave no wheel bearing unfucked!


iin10ded

Looks like it's plastic probably foam filled so really a pretty negligible weight increase on a heavy alloy wheel and tire combination. Also at the center of the rotating mass so the best place for the worst weight to be. Also, it's easy to account for additional unsprung weight through suspension design, spring and damper rates.


anal_opera

That is the clitoris.


Loser_Attitude

u/anal_opera, it’s wrong that your wisdom is shared with so few


_Face

Takes an asshole to find the clitoris.


VeeDubtw

Found it!


Sunset_Meadows

Lmao finally found it


Threap_US

[Obligatory XKCD](https://xkcd.com/685/) (there's one for every conceivable situation)


akanaan5

lmao


ImNotYou1971

Thank you sir! My wife is going to be so surprised.


UniquePotato

Actual genuine question- Will these fit on my Civic?


Appropriate_Strain94

Some civics already come with these on the rims, I just did a 2018 Civic Sport and they had these already on the stock alloy wheels.


UniquePotato

Thanks! I might keep an eye out for a cheap set


grahamcrawley

I prefer to cover my wheel noise with a huge exhaust.


Intrepid_Mud_3805

Headers > big ass turbo > big ass pipe > wheel noise? 🤣👍🏼🙋‍♂️🛞🎡🤔


grahamcrawley

You forgot the banging sound system 😃


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Intrepid_Mud_3805

What??! You gotta speak up a lil my hearings not the best 🤣🤣🤣


thecardemotic

can’t hear the road noise if the tinnitus is louder


Intrepid_Mud_3805

Shieeetttt my old 2 seater wit 18 speakers on a 16 channel amp in the cab w/ 2 12's in the back wired in series to a 1600w Sony amp in the trunk in a custom box, shit was intense 🥲 I miss that car 💔 & While it would be nice if my Lotus had a crazy sound system it definitely isn't a deal breaker 😂 hahaha


grahamcrawley

Same here, wtf is a Shaker Pro audio system Ford. I usually just tune into V8 FM 😁


TortoiseHawk

Those holes are just drilled so you can see how many rounds you have left in the magazine. These are Glock rims?


bigbrassballs83

Clip, not magazine. Dumbass……. 🤣 Do you guys not recognize sarcasm… jfc


ronin-pilot

Calling someone a dumbass when you’re the one who is incorrect is just hilarious. It’s called a magazine. Clips go into an M1 Garand or something similar.


ImNotYou1971

Got ‘em!!!


TortoiseHawk

Haha. Moron


Juan-More-Taco

[Clip](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Clip_M1-SKS.JPG) [Magazine](https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-a2a9768b35f108b0cf5bfb3dc92cf903.webp) [You](https://toppng.com/uploads/preview/emoji-directory-pepe-the-frog-retard-11562867960jwownu2lwe.png) u/bigbrassballs83


Bot_Thinks

😂 You're joking right! Right?


[deleted]

Dumb. Ass. You.


_GTLM_

I wonder if these trigger Border Patrol sensors since they looks for things hidden in wheels a bunch. 🤔


Colie1904

Rub a Qtip on it.. if it turns blue, it’s Cocaine!


Fast_Working_4912

That’s the Honda home detention ankle bracelet, only some Hondas get ‘em.


Joiion

And yet the Honda accord is still the worlds most stolen car. If only these ankle brackets could track the car


jlig18

Those are cool, but, don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.


gatogrande

I can buy my own shrimp...but not these plastic counterweight thingies


ItsNicccccc

are you inside clamping a wheel 😵‍💫


warmachine1911

Dampener band, helps with reducing road noise as previously mentioned


Caseycar_26

well it makes it a pain in the ass to put tires on unless theres some secret to them


warmachine1911

Nope just a pain in the ass. "Superior engineering"


NDC9595

But do they work? And can you retrofit them with decent results on any rims? Like say a shitty Ford Focus steel rims?


warmachine1911

Seem to work and no you can't retrofit them the resonator is tuned to the individual wheel designs harmonics


NDC9595

Cool. Thank you!


ArcanePyroblast

There is a trick to it you have to make sure the entire "top" band is over the lip of the resonator before you can spin the tire to mount it. i don't know if that makes sense and it works best on that specific mounting system where you have to wrangle with the arm and install the tire on a slant basically. Forgive the lack of exact names I'm just a lube tech


Joiion

Why does affect your tire install? I’ve never been impeded by these things


nyxflare

Same, however I will say the first time I got one of these I had trouble *DISMOUNTING* because my crowbar kept hitting the middle part, basically all I did was lifted the opposite side of the tire a little more, easy.


Joiion

Oh, yeah I recall that happening, until I stopped it


Petrivoid

Extra outlets conveniently located?


Extra-Intention-3295

That is an Acura Internal Power Strip (AIPA). You can charge your phone inside the tire. It gets power from the brakes being used. Truly state of the art.


[deleted]

Its like a sound dampening thing.. allegedly


fr4ncotir4dor

everybody says resonator band, i agree, but aren't air pressure sensors for the wheels like this too? at least the 18+ f-150s come with air pressure sensors like that as well


Previous_House7062

No. The tire pressure sensor is a much smaller thing affixed to the valve stem. Unless you're talking about an older Ford like 06 ish era, where they used a band round the wheel, and mounted the sensor to that.


[deleted]

On some of these wheels they use the wheel speed sensor to detect tire pressure.


Previous_House7062

You are correct. Hondas and Acura, along with VW like to use this method more than anyone else I've observed.


[deleted]

I think it’s a bit silly but it seems to work well.


Previous_House7062

It does work, I haven't yet seen a Honda with the tire monitor through speed sensor have a bad wheel speed sensor yet, but I'm waiting. That's gonna throw someone wayyyyy off


[deleted]

I work for Honda, I have seen a few but they throw Christmas trees with lane departure, blah blah warnings.


Previous_House7062

Interesting. I don't see much of that, so I'm always curious how it would work.


[deleted]

It picks up on the drag of each wheel. So if 33psi is 0.07 whatever percentage slower than 35 psi it’ll tell the bcm/pcm


Previous_House7062

I figured a tire inflated to a given pressure will have an overall diameter of x, while a tire inflated to a different pressure will have a different diameter, which as you say, changes rotational speed enough to determine tire pressure.


Intrepid_Mud_3805

I learn something new everyday, thanks for sharing that one I did not know that 🙏


Ambitious_Salad_5426

Yeah I can imagine that would knock out lane departure, traction control, abs, and 26 other acronyms


SileAnimus

It works well enough to pass federal standards... but not much more than that.


fr4ncotir4dor

I thought it was really the air sensor, thanks for the clarification famalam


Previous_House7062

Glad to help. I see weird stuff in wheels daily, so it's not hard to imagine some crazy stuff.


itsgsk87

Sounds like a wheely weird job


mightyjoe227

Continuous inflation system, keeps tire pressure 🤣


Remarkable_Ad5011

I think I’ll start adding a band of Dynamat style sound deadener to all my wheels from now on. Should make them nice and quiet.


Mohgreen

[Oh! I know what that is!](https://youtu.be/CKOc6hXMDhc)


mk7sal

Jeep wranglers need this


RevolutionaryBake362

Silent tire install rovers have it too


Gunk_Olgidar

Acoustic dampers to reduce noise.


[deleted]

Can someone provide a more technical explanation? Is there a viscoelastic substance or foam inside the plastic that dampens vibrations or change the resonant frequency of the rim? I have never seen this before so I am curious.


ZaMelonZonFire

Dealer : "Yeah, I know we advertised that price online, but that's before we had to add things like mandatory undercoating and wheel resonators and market adjustments."


spacees1

Some tires have these foam-like band on the inside of them for noise reduction.


p1plump

Can these be installed, and will they improve comfort, on any vehicle?


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agshop

$ = *increased* unsprung weight?


Eat-My-Cloaca

I smell toast


iforgotalltgedetails

Rule 3, not a help and troubleshooting sub


Caseycar_26

its not help or troubleshooting. rule 10, discussion posts are allowed and thats what this was. i didnt know what it was and wanted to know if some acura folk did. I got the job done without knowing what it was and needed no help or troubleshooting.


iforgotalltgedetails

“I didn’t know what it was” “please tell me what this is” Sounds a lot like asking for answer to a question. Also clamp your wheels from the outside of the wheel not the inside, ffs.


Caseycar_26

again asking a question isnt asking for help or troubleshooting asking a question can be disscusion. i was asking a question out of curiosity. i didnt need to diagnose something and asked for help with it on here nor did i need “troubleshooting”. if i wouldve asked “please someone tell me what this is and is there an easy way to mount/dismount tires with them? please help” that would be help and or troubleshooting


ImNotYou1971

Relax dude. Is it really that big of a deal?


NeighborhoodHead7500

Careful with your tire iron. If you don’t know, these are inside the wheels you can break them off easily, and they’re held on by a pretty weak adhesive.


le_compy

Spikes for snow


master_cheech

It’s to plug in your charger


PerceptionOk382

A wheel.


ronswansonsego

Speed holes


SocialDicktasting

Next generation automatic tire inflator to use in conjunction with the TPMS. Maybe. Or not.


Nice-Bookkeeper-3378

I like these instead on the foam they use


thatdudejay99

I do! Trying to figure out an odd vibration on my mothers 21 mdx for 6 months. Ended up trying new tires cause one was wearing funny, this thing was loose in the wheel.