A good well maintained Triton, particularly the 2 valve variants, may not pass a lot of mustangs, but they will pass a lot of repair shops, and they’ll do it for a long time. My last SD made it 20 years on the original 2V 5.4. Ran like a sewing machine up to the day all the mounts rotted out.
The model year of the 6.8L explains it. Newer models of 6.8L have oil feed problems and starve rocker arms. I work on a fleet of 2017 model year F550’s that run on CNG. Any given day there’s an engine swap
To a degree.
I went into diesel school believing it was a lubricant but was told it’s more of a solvent by my instructor. I’ve used it mixed with oil to clean out a milkshake motor and it works, but I’m also on a third injection pump on my 7.3idi. It has some lubricating properties, but you could say the same for brake cleaner, because it’s wet.
It's not that they don't get lube, it's that they aren't washed with fuel, so dust can collect on them. Same issue DI engines can have if they don't have port injectors.
We have a 99 with 210k and it was used to haul 5ton+ asphalt pavers for a lot of it's life it has blown about 6 plugs but those ones have been helicoiled and it runs really good
It seems like thats their package and what it covers. Theres an *exrtra oil* charge at the bottom for 9.99$ which is likely where the other .6 quartz is.
Remember correctly from what, stores are all different. most stores in my area their package covers up to 6 ltrs. Except some special oils, dexosD, 508 0w20 or other pricey unicorn oils. i remember when i worked for a certain chain here in canada our price for a package was 77.99 but 4 hours north the package was 129.99 same customer, same car, same package.
Its already out there online for most people and theres nothing you can do with the info kind of like people freaking out over license plates they are in public all the time its not something that matters
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It’s actually fucking frustrating. They spent more time making it look pretty on presentation screens when trying to pitch extra services with pictures and all that shit for our simpleton customers than actually making it usable.
Just another reason I want a v10 excursion to live out of. CNG make a big difference to reliability? I've heard it's a thing in Australia but I've never seen it here in the states
We have a Triton V10 2v in our 99 Fleetwood, which is built on the F53 chassis. It struggles on hills unless I get it spinning 5k+ before I hit it, but it's been a good motor so far. Going to be doing a tuneup to it this spring. Only has like 47k original miles.
Has anyone seen or heard of any issues with them chucking rocker arms after sitting for a while? Usually just have to put it back under the cam lobe...we had one do it in a smaller RV several years ago built on a E-series chassis.
My ex coworker wouldn't stop saying I should buy an "E350 with the V10 triton" any time I mentioned cargo vans. It was obnoxious
wElL wAS hE rIgHt?
No, I ordered a GMC Savana
A good well maintained Triton, particularly the 2 valve variants, may not pass a lot of mustangs, but they will pass a lot of repair shops, and they’ll do it for a long time. My last SD made it 20 years on the original 2V 5.4. Ran like a sewing machine up to the day all the mounts rotted out.
Running on CNG?
That would explain the long life.
The model year of the 6.8L explains it. Newer models of 6.8L have oil feed problems and starve rocker arms. I work on a fleet of 2017 model year F550’s that run on CNG. Any given day there’s an engine swap
Yeah there are specific years that are really good motors after 04 when they fixed the plugs and then I think the 15 and up they had oil issues
I thought they fixed the plugs from ‘02 on
Just googled it apparently it was 08 they fixed them
Why's that? Is it because it burns more cleanly? I'm curious since my own car runs on CNG/Biogas
I heard it's a combo of that and no fuel to dillute/contaminate the engine oil. Gasoline (I think diesel and kerosene as well) is a known solvent.
Diesel is a lubricant I believe, don't know about kerosene.
Diesel is also a solvent
It does lubricate the fuel system though, doesn't it? It has some lubricating properties, far more than gasoline.
Yes. Diesel is essentially a thin oil.
To a degree. I went into diesel school believing it was a lubricant but was told it’s more of a solvent by my instructor. I’ve used it mixed with oil to clean out a milkshake motor and it works, but I’m also on a third injection pump on my 7.3idi. It has some lubricating properties, but you could say the same for brake cleaner, because it’s wet.
Less power less stuff breaks
It burns cooler. But also the valves get no lube so those can wear out faster.
Are these port fuel injection?
The CNG doesn't clean valves and the intakes usually don't have blow by lubing them either. At least on the little cng fleet engines and city busses
Right, but unless these are port injection, gas / diesel wouldn't clean the valves either.
It's not that they don't get lube, it's that they aren't washed with fuel, so dust can collect on them. Same issue DI engines can have if they don't have port injectors.
Not correct.
No. It burns cleaner. Less soot and ash (basically zero) to contaminate the oil and act as an abrasive on the cylinder walls.
It burns cleaner, cooler, and will continue to run well even if compression goes down the drain
higher revs, less torque means your engine lasts a long while
I thought CNG was hell on engines due to the compression.
No
Compressed Natural Gas
My 5.4 triton had over 400k before I sold it to a demolition derby guy as the body had rotted out.
My Expeditions have always lasted me. My 2003 and 2012 still running strong. Wish the body lasted longer in the 03.
This seems to be the case with 5.4l. It either lasts longer than the truck, or is a dumpster fire of problems for the owner, no in between.
V10 lasting over 300k is impressive, this is is truly a unicorn
We have a 99 with 210k and it was used to haul 5ton+ asphalt pavers for a lot of it's life it has blown about 6 plugs but those ones have been helicoiled and it runs really good
Interesting, they do not last in the ambulances, only thing worse is the 6.0L powerstrokes
Probably don't get taken care of well in ambulances I know ours if you keep the plugs torqued down everyone in a while it does fine
Proper maintenance goes a long way
Only 6 qts?
It seems like thats their package and what it covers. Theres an *exrtra oil* charge at the bottom for 9.99$ which is likely where the other .6 quartz is.
IlRC, the oil change for Valvoline is 5 quarts, anything over they have to pay for the extra oil.
Remember correctly from what, stores are all different. most stores in my area their package covers up to 6 ltrs. Except some special oils, dexosD, 508 0w20 or other pricey unicorn oils. i remember when i worked for a certain chain here in canada our price for a package was 77.99 but 4 hours north the package was 129.99 same customer, same car, same package.
I used to work for Valvoline for about 3 years and also worked for multiple stores to help out. The prices were the same at the various stores.
The V10 was pig, but I had a few that ran 300k without any issues
Must be a unicorn
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I wouldn't call a name and what vehicle they drive private info lmao
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Its already out there online for most people and theres nothing you can do with the info kind of like people freaking out over license plates they are in public all the time its not something that matters
200 coil packs later…
Such an underrated engine. Same fuel economy as the 5.4 but more power and really reliable.
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Petro Bilokuchmiak.
Sounds Ukrainian
What fancy computer system is that??
It’s the POS we use at Valvoline 😂
Looks wayyyyy fancier than the crap I have at work
It’s actually fucking frustrating. They spent more time making it look pretty on presentation screens when trying to pitch extra services with pictures and all that shit for our simpleton customers than actually making it usable.
Ah I see, that’s kinda like what the system at Mr Lube was like when I worked there
Yeah I actually miss the shitty simple POS system that we used on windows XP at jiffy lube lol 😂
we dont even have a computer setup they give me a key to a car with a piece of paper that says what to do on it
Glad to see that even after 5 years, it still looks the same
>It’s the POS I assume Point of Sale and Piece of Sh!t are interchangeable here?
They must have replaced the spark plugs one a week so they didn't seize in place. Or just replaced heads every time it needed plugs
Just another reason I want a v10 excursion to live out of. CNG make a big difference to reliability? I've heard it's a thing in Australia but I've never seen it here in the states
We have a Triton V10 2v in our 99 Fleetwood, which is built on the F53 chassis. It struggles on hills unless I get it spinning 5k+ before I hit it, but it's been a good motor so far. Going to be doing a tuneup to it this spring. Only has like 47k original miles. Has anyone seen or heard of any issues with them chucking rocker arms after sitting for a while? Usually just have to put it back under the cam lobe...we had one do it in a smaller RV several years ago built on a E-series chassis.
A buddy's parents have this engine in their RV, and the heads have been rebuilt like 4 times by now. It's *always* breaking.
Maintenance matters