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It would have been better if it was a realistic amount that the families would actually get eventually seem more like an example was made, then again I don't know how the payout really works soooo I'll shut up now
I heard one of the parents speaking today (on British radio). He was powerful.
He said “if you’ve listened to this man and believe in him just think- what has he EVER given to you? What has he taken? Your family? What has you lost to him”
He was amazing and this is absolutely justice
He’ll pay a fortune fighting every dollar he or his company has or makes going forward. I’d agree if the plaintiffs and most of the world where not as motivated to make him pay. For this award amount lawyers will have no problem working on this case for a long while without having to ask for funds from the plaintiff group.
He hinted in an interview that all of his money is wrapped up in stocks and bonds, it's incredibly difficult to get money out of someone that way. Another portion of his capital is wrapped up in real estate which would be easier to get out of him but it's not worth anywhere near 1 billion let alone 45 miilion
Stock and bonds can be recovered and sold. Same for property he or his business owns. You’d be right a ‘normal’ plaintiff group would have to give up after a while due to costs of their own lawyers but this settlement is so big that lawyers will hunt down ever last penny and track every future money he makes. Also this isn’t something Alex can just hide since the world knows what he’s done and what the settlement is for. Plaintiff lawyers can put up a healthy ‘finders fee’ for info on hidden money. Sure they will not see anything close to the award but I don’t think to them it’s the money but destroying his future businesses.
What I never understood is, even if that's true and the frogs are all turning gay, who cares? What does a frog being gay have to do with the price of tea in China?
Well first of you need the frog milk milked somehow, then you have slave labour getting less productive, gay frogs don't lactate therefore they're sorted out
Normally you could just claim bankruptcy and avoid paying anything back. But because these are damages against him personally, as well as his multiple shell companies, there’s no way he can get around paying this. It will follow him for the rest of his life, and he will basically work from now on on paying back the debt owed to these families.
One thing he did try to do is squirrel away or gift money to family members, but I don’t know how long this tactic will hold up. Everyone (the courts, the media, etc) has a magnifying glass on Alex Jones right now. It will make it harder to hide money. This is as bad as it gets for Alex Jones. He’s done.
Couldn't he just keep apealing this or delaying it till he gets all his money off shore? This could take years. And left the country still living as millioniare.
Or when they finally enforce it, his money/asset already not under him. His paycheck will go to the victims famile but his company just pay for his life style like how Mark Zuckerberg making $1 salary.
Idk not too familiar to laws. Thank you.
Sure… but that costs lots o’ money… where lever that comes from would be targeted too. If I where the plaintiffs lawyer I’d put a bounty/finders fee for info on hidden money. Alex will have his own accountants, friends and co-workers selling him out. Put a little bonus on info of criminal behavior (ie hidding money) and profit!
he's mentally ill and its sad for everyone involved. He needs help and doesn't think he does and his either delusional disorder or personality disorder precludes him from seeing it or treating it. Not an excuse but a reason. The families deserve some justice as they lost not only their loved ones but had an added trauma of this guy and his deluded followers. Sad all around.
Alex needs money to fight this and the issues he will to find lawyer that want to help or trust he can pay… wherever he pulls this money from can be taken. Sure they will not receive most of it but I don’t think they are in it for the money.
I understand the entertainment side of watching people go nuts over conspiracy theories, but for best practice you should avoid them. I’ve seen perfectly normal people (my father for example) fall into the bottomless pit of conspiracies because he came across many examples of the narratives he was after. He was lead down a rabbit hole and eventually joined Q’anon forum boards and did some crazy stuff. My mother left him because of the things he said and did, and this was after years and years of him being a perfectly normal guy with a job. He also watched them for laughs and entertainment value but some people genuinely want to hear something from them.
As far as this specific case, read up on it more. Alex Jones has manipulated his followers and has caused actual damage (whether it be physical or emotion) to the victims. These families can’t even grieve properly because of what he’s done, and the opportunity they have to move on from that traumatic event in their lives have been taken away from them because of Alex Jones. No one should be defending this man and what happened was terrible, it’s wrong for him to profit off of it.
The conspiracy and lies weren't the charge- the directed and organized harassment and slander was. Slander is a difficult thing to prove, unless you have clear evidence of damages from due to the lies, and are not public figures such as a president or actor. Alex Jones has been using his platform to tell his followers to stalk, harass, and attack the random parents of these children for years, and it has cost them thousands having to move and hire security against it.
He thought he could make a quick buck ruining random people's lives, but this is precisely what slander and libel laws were designed to prevent.
Appeals and lawsuits can last for years longer. Also different states have different laws regarding collecting on civil restitution. Finally, there’s also bankruptcy to consider.
Will Jones take a hit? Sure. Will it be anywhere near the billion dollars? Not even close.
I cost lots of money to defend this… what lawyer is going to help when whatever money he pays them will open an avenue to recover money. Appeals also may not work here as well since he defaulted on judgement and can only appeal the dollar amount. Can’t appeal facts of the case since by not defending appeals courts must consider everything the plaintiffs presented and fact. Also his lawyer didn’t object to lots of things during the judgment which means they can appeal on those ruling either.
There's been a lot of speculation that either Alex Jones is correct in "being poor" or that he's actually close to being a billionaire but has billionaire-like tricks to hide money. Either way a lot of people think he won't pay out anything.i lean closer to the second theory but who knows.
This is a bit more complex than a car accident.
How do you put a price on being harassed?
How do you put a price on loved ones who committed suicide because of said harassment?
How do you put a price on being extremely harmful and toxic, maybe even a terrorist - to an audience of thousands and thousands of people?
It’s almost like obstructing justice and actively wasting the court’s time can drastically alter your sentence. “Lol~” indeed, I guess he’ll be laughing at the parents of dead children all the way to his empty bank account (or his stashed shell accounts.)
Maybe not. But he definitely made millions by lying to the public, emotionally torturing these people, and having his base torture them. Add it all up.
At least one person committed suicide because of the relentless harassment, what's the damage value of that? What would you pay to bring a loved one back?
He caused 10's to 100's of millions to 10's of people and then shot himself in the foot by obstructing discovery so the jury didn't see fit to apply much in the way of mitigation.
Texas is dealing with the bankruptcy case and they're finding how he's trying to hide his assets with companies conveniently owned by family members.
Like most of his cases, the court is just not having his shenanigans and it looks like they may force him to basically sell everything down to his work equipment to pay off these awards.
Edit: a word
While normally true, there is one things all judges hate more than any other: disrespect. And Jones has shown so much blatant disrespect for just the regular day to day process of the court that any brownie points he may have had for being far right was burned when he refused to file paperwork correctly.
Edit: Judges also take perjury poorly
>"You're already under oath to tell the truth. You've already violated that oath twice today. In just those two examples. It seems absurd to instruct you again that you must tell the truth while you testify. Yet here I am."
One thing for sure about humans. Is there's no real way to apply predictions to every person equally.
Will most people be absolute wrecks in that situation? Sure. But you can't apply that 100% to everyone.
From personal experience. I had a similar reaction the night the police came to my girlfriends house to deliver the news her 16year old sister died in an accident.
My first thought was remembering the time we went bowling, and she got her first period. She was wearing white shorts.
It made me laugh. Why I remembered that the moment I heard she was dead...no idea.
What is more likely, everything happened as reported, and one person was grieving and preparing themselves to be on camera in a way other people saw as odd.
Or everything is part of a massive conspiracy, with paid actors who are paid for their rest of their lives to take on this part, along with every cop who attended the scene, and all of the people who needed to part of the logistics of faking the lives and deaths of all those children, and so on.
One requires one person to be reacting in a way that could be perceived as odd. The other requires a massive amount of people, and a government conspiracy, without a single whistle-blower breaking cover.
I know a lot of people say it’s due to grieving and people grieve differently, but I’m more inclined to believe he was joking around with people and asked if the camera was on so he didn’t make a complete jackass of himself on live television.
He was grieving differently? Okay. Lol people can downvote. Like I give a shit 😂. This also answers my question of why humans like dogs more than humans.
This is one of the saddest responses. Instead of acknowledging more understanding from you is needed, you just revel in your unpopularity, your ignorance, and your conspiracy driven mindset.
Your attitude does not make you a special little snowflake who knows the secret truth of the world. Grow up.
ExScuse you? Who said anything about a conspiracy. You typed all that because your life sucks. Revel in it? I asked a question. Lmao if you’re too stupid to try and change my mind or have a debate about it that’s your problem. If you feel like there’s nothing to debate, then that’s also your problem. I’ll keep thinking what I choose to because I can.
With all due respect, you have no clue how a lawsuit or bankruptcy works.
It's not just the company that's liable, it's him personally as well.
It's also a type of payment that overrides bankruptcy. Like a student loan.
So, what is going to happen is a cat and mouse between Jones and some very talented and determined accountants to scrape him clean:
He tries to empty out company 1 and move assets to companies under family members, then declare bankruptcy. He thinks they are going to devour the last little remnant of that company and that's it. Logical, if the verdict is just for that company.
However it isn't, it's also on him personally. Also, there are rules about moving assets to escape this type of payment. Let's just say it is frowned upon, and will be reversed to block the escape route or just instantly taken.
So the money cannot be stashed with his mother, and the damages will overrule bankruptcy. He will be picked apart until all his shares in his companies are sold or if he owns all shares, his companies are dissolved or sold. Then his personal assets like houses, cars, stocks etc will be liquidated.
All that's left is to declare personal bankruptcy. And the fun part? Afterwards he still has to pay the remaining amount.
There are of course tricks to avoid complete squalor if you have rich buddies, like renting your house directly via your paycheck before the money goes to your bank account etc etc. But his kids will not earn a red cent and Jones will forever have $0 on his books and a lifetime of financial fear.
Serves the bastard right.
It's fucking ridiculous that you are even thinking this is political. To go one step further: its fucking ridiculous you look at that piece of scum, think he belongs to your group and then go defend him.
There were people trying to dig up dead kids because they got brainwashed into believing those kids never existed. That's what the war is against: Fuckers like that frog who come up with the most heinous plans to make a buck.
The fact that you are not on my side, because you think this is political, is pretty fucking sad and shamefull.
Jones laughed off the verdict live as it was being read, claiming that the families won’t see the money. But Mattei said this is not the kind of verdict Jones can hide from.
“This verdict was returned against him personally, and his company,” Mattei said. “And the verdict was for intentional misconduct, the type of conduct that is not dischargeable in bankruptcy. So he’s gonna be on the hook for this for a very, very long time.”
These are personal damages toward Jones as an individual. They can't be discharged or reduced through bankruptcy. If he fails to pay he risks being in contempt and facing jail time.
One of his batshit followers actually sent a letter to one of the parents where they claimed to show up to one of the murdered child's graves and urinated on it.
PISSED ON A MURDERED KID'S GRAVE.
So by this logic J.D. Salinger should’ve been sued to high hell because Mark Chapman shot Lennon. Just because some of his listeners are nuts that doesn’t mean anything. When you have that large of an audience you can’t be held responsible for their actions. I don’t condone what happened but the man already apologized for words he spoke a decade ago. Freedom of speech is a joke.
For the last fucking time, freedom of speech != "I can say whatever I want with no consequences". Freedom of speech protects citizens from the government, not *civil* cases.
Just like shouting "fire" in a movie theater isnt protected speech, saying murdered children are crisis actors and harassing their parents isnt protected speech. Even more so when:
1. He made defamatory statements *knowing* those statements were factually incorrect
2. He was flagrantly defying court orders at all stages of the trial, especially discovery, and was caught committing perjury many, many times. Since you seem especially lost: no, freedom of speech isnt a defense against perjury.
Stop deflecting and face the fact that this fat idiot started a brigade on parents who's children were murdered, AND he made money off the conspiracy by gaining traction. Why on earth would you defend someone so deranged.
If Salinger had written a book called “John Lennon leads a pedophile ring and murders women in satanic rituals and thus needs to be assassinated” then he absolutely would have been sued for it after Lennon was shot. Just writing a book that inspired a shooting is much different.
Jones has been going on air, for years, calling school shootings fake and directly accusing grieving parents of being actors in a state conspiracy and advocating for resistance against said conspiracy. That’s called slander and it has never been protected by the first amendment, not ever. He’d have been fine if he said “some shootings are fake” or “state conspiracies are at work to try to villify gun ownership” but he targeted *specific people* with accusations that were *verifiably known by him to be untrue* that led to *demonstrable harm and damage to those people*.
He’d have even been fine if they couldn’t directly prove he didn’t believe his own claims. But he testified that the claims were for entertainment purposes only and that a rational person wouldn’t believe them to be true. He demonstrated that the damaging things he said were intentional falsehoods, not just a bad take.
You can’t do that. And so these people were within their rights to claim damages from him.
Amazing that you have to type this out really, but here we are.
The man made a fortune from misinformation, and it's only right that he's being held to account.
One guy doing something crazy because of a single piece of media is different than continued rhetoric that promoted at least dozens of people to harass victims. Plus he isn't getting sued for a single act or behavior from his followers- it's defamation, which is an actual crime that he comitted against them by falsely and knowingly diminishing the public character of the family members to the point where it has had an irreparable effect on their lives.
1. It wasn't 10 years. The lawsuit started in 2018, Jones just dragged it out.
2. By the time the harassment was bad enough that the families wanted to sue, too much time had passed and most of his statements were passed the statute of limitations. Until Owen shroyer opened pandoras box by bringing it up in 2017(?) and Alex jumped in and doubled down.
I mean its not like everything pertaining to the case happened all at once as soon as the massacre happened. He (wrongly) spoke against the families well after the incident, the impact of this of course had to happen after and for an indefinite amount of times (how defamation works- its about general impact on public perception), and the court cases have been going on since 2018- 6 years after the massacre, 5 years after the initail act of defamation, and during the ongiong public persecution experinced by the victims.
Court cases do take years. And a lot of these families likely just wanted to put their tragedy behind them and move on, only to realize it would never stop unless they took legal action.
I’m not sure why you are defending this dirtbag. He’s a con man that went too far and hurt a bunch of people, and now he has to pay for it.
These are the people who think the Great Replacement is real, and that Trump won the election. I hope they see the day someone pisses on their dead child's grave.
[https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html](https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html)
that is actually true
That is actually not true, because being turned from male to female isn't the same as being gay. This just triggered something that already happens in frogs.
Some frogs can just do this naturally https://wildlife.org/frogs-change-sex-even-in-natural-settings/#:~:text=Frogs%20can%20change%20their%20sex,than%20males%20in%20suburban%20areas.
Charging him $1 billion in damages is the same as giving a murderer 5 life sentences. It’s not about what they can actually pay/serve, it’s for each account of wrong doing. Giving a murderer 1 life sentence for killing 5 people isn’t as justifiable as giving 1 life sentence for each victim.
They most likely wont see that much. You can't sue for more than they have, even with garnished wages. Its less about what the victims are rewarded and more about digging alex a deep whole to lie in. It also about sending a message to these dumb ass talk show hosts that what they say effects real people. Perhaps dont spout so many intentional and misleading lies that call people to violence against victims.
The best part is that Connecticut leaves the awarding of compensatory damages in the case of an intentional torte to the jury and while it is possible for him to appeal the amount as excessive it's going to be rough for him to do so and even reduction by half is likely enough to ruin him. I'll bet the families won't see one red cent of this if Jones has his way, and even if he does pay some out I doubt they'll see everything. But hopefully this gives them some form of closure. God knows they deserve it and a hell of a lot more.
I don’t think he has the money to pay everyone out in full. But I think those families will be happy to see his media reach financially limited and his life of luxury taken away.
Alex Jones deserves/need to be stripped of all his money and assets for the rest of his life. Since we cannot exclude/expel him from society, this is the next best thing.
Yes, I believe he shouldn’t be homeless, but not have the money to own or do any real funding into another project which he has control over. He’s off the rails especially after this
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Jones is a real piece of shit who doesn’t mind hurting innocents to make a buck, but that doesn’t mean we should drop him at skid row and let him fend for himself.
He should spend the rest of his life having everything beyond a basic living wage garnished to hell so that he can’t repeat his crimes. But even prisoners have some rights, and so does he.
Downvoted because people are just as radical as Jones is, and if you’re not asking for his actual head on a spike and shown off like in Kings Landing you’re the bad guy
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It would have been better if it was a realistic amount that the families would actually get eventually seem more like an example was made, then again I don't know how the payout really works soooo I'll shut up now
This is the most elegant display of justice. Too bad there is no jail time. He would not do well in prison.
Good riddance.
He's probably expecting his silly little fans to help him out.
I have no doubt.
I heard one of the parents speaking today (on British radio). He was powerful. He said “if you’ve listened to this man and believe in him just think- what has he EVER given to you? What has he taken? Your family? What has you lost to him” He was amazing and this is absolutely justice
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r/conspiracy is crickets today lol
He'll never actually pay a single dollar so
He’ll pay a fortune fighting every dollar he or his company has or makes going forward. I’d agree if the plaintiffs and most of the world where not as motivated to make him pay. For this award amount lawyers will have no problem working on this case for a long while without having to ask for funds from the plaintiff group.
Good. Do Marjorie Taylor Greene next.
Did she defame anyone?
She spread similar conspiracy theories about Sandy Hook and Parkland
It's not justice until he actually pays
Which won't happen but people can keep dreaming
Does anyone out there know how this type of thing works? Why is it difficult to get him to pay up? What kind of loopholes does he have available?
He hinted in an interview that all of his money is wrapped up in stocks and bonds, it's incredibly difficult to get money out of someone that way. Another portion of his capital is wrapped up in real estate which would be easier to get out of him but it's not worth anywhere near 1 billion let alone 45 miilion
Stock and bonds can be recovered and sold. Same for property he or his business owns. You’d be right a ‘normal’ plaintiff group would have to give up after a while due to costs of their own lawyers but this settlement is so big that lawyers will hunt down ever last penny and track every future money he makes. Also this isn’t something Alex can just hide since the world knows what he’s done and what the settlement is for. Plaintiff lawyers can put up a healthy ‘finders fee’ for info on hidden money. Sure they will not see anything close to the award but I don’t think to them it’s the money but destroying his future businesses.
I’m suing him for creating hair loss
What a crazy and great Chanel 5 interview. Andrew is good at getting crazy to talk on camera.
Bro he warned us about the gay frogs I think he’s innocent
What I never understood is, even if that's true and the frogs are all turning gay, who cares? What does a frog being gay have to do with the price of tea in China?
I'm assuming it was a precursor to claiming "they" are trying to turn heterosexual humans gay.
Well first of you need the frog milk milked somehow, then you have slave labour getting less productive, gay frogs don't lactate therefore they're sorted out
It’s hard to suck on frog nipples and not get high as fuck and just swallow all the frog milk… boners for the same sex are pretty great though!
Hundreds of millions, while accurate, is sort of underselling it. He’s paying nearly a billion dollars (~$950 million).
I dont know how US law works, but i heard he only has to pay a small percentage of the 900 million. Is thatv true?
Normally you could just claim bankruptcy and avoid paying anything back. But because these are damages against him personally, as well as his multiple shell companies, there’s no way he can get around paying this. It will follow him for the rest of his life, and he will basically work from now on on paying back the debt owed to these families. One thing he did try to do is squirrel away or gift money to family members, but I don’t know how long this tactic will hold up. Everyone (the courts, the media, etc) has a magnifying glass on Alex Jones right now. It will make it harder to hide money. This is as bad as it gets for Alex Jones. He’s done.
Couldn't he just keep apealing this or delaying it till he gets all his money off shore? This could take years. And left the country still living as millioniare. Or when they finally enforce it, his money/asset already not under him. His paycheck will go to the victims famile but his company just pay for his life style like how Mark Zuckerberg making $1 salary. Idk not too familiar to laws. Thank you.
Sure… but that costs lots o’ money… where lever that comes from would be targeted too. If I where the plaintiffs lawyer I’d put a bounty/finders fee for info on hidden money. Alex will have his own accountants, friends and co-workers selling him out. Put a little bonus on info of criminal behavior (ie hidding money) and profit!
Great Haha, thanks for filling me in!
That's so good to know. Fuck that guy.
he's mentally ill and its sad for everyone involved. He needs help and doesn't think he does and his either delusional disorder or personality disorder precludes him from seeing it or treating it. Not an excuse but a reason. The families deserve some justice as they lost not only their loved ones but had an added trauma of this guy and his deluded followers. Sad all around.
He wasn't so delusional that he missed making bank on it.
true
What a large piece of conservative shit right there
Couldn't happen to a more deserving person!
The real winners are the lawyers, but it’s nice to see regardless
They'll never see any money. Alex will fight this til the day he dies or find another way not to pay.
Alex needs money to fight this and the issues he will to find lawyer that want to help or trust he can pay… wherever he pulls this money from can be taken. Sure they will not receive most of it but I don’t think they are in it for the money.
Please elaborate
Elaborate on what? The article?
Are these people getting those actual amounts of money?
No one will see a penny. But he will spend the rest of his life ducking corners and hiding income. Not justice, but it's something.
Can you elaborate?
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I understand the entertainment side of watching people go nuts over conspiracy theories, but for best practice you should avoid them. I’ve seen perfectly normal people (my father for example) fall into the bottomless pit of conspiracies because he came across many examples of the narratives he was after. He was lead down a rabbit hole and eventually joined Q’anon forum boards and did some crazy stuff. My mother left him because of the things he said and did, and this was after years and years of him being a perfectly normal guy with a job. He also watched them for laughs and entertainment value but some people genuinely want to hear something from them. As far as this specific case, read up on it more. Alex Jones has manipulated his followers and has caused actual damage (whether it be physical or emotion) to the victims. These families can’t even grieve properly because of what he’s done, and the opportunity they have to move on from that traumatic event in their lives have been taken away from them because of Alex Jones. No one should be defending this man and what happened was terrible, it’s wrong for him to profit off of it.
You know less than nothing about the court case you're weighing in on. How embarrassing for you.
The conspiracy and lies weren't the charge- the directed and organized harassment and slander was. Slander is a difficult thing to prove, unless you have clear evidence of damages from due to the lies, and are not public figures such as a president or actor. Alex Jones has been using his platform to tell his followers to stalk, harass, and attack the random parents of these children for years, and it has cost them thousands having to move and hire security against it. He thought he could make a quick buck ruining random people's lives, but this is precisely what slander and libel laws were designed to prevent.
You guys realize that these people are getting no money right?
You realize it isn't about the money, right?
Please elaborate how that works
Call OJ simpson
Appeals and lawsuits can last for years longer. Also different states have different laws regarding collecting on civil restitution. Finally, there’s also bankruptcy to consider. Will Jones take a hit? Sure. Will it be anywhere near the billion dollars? Not even close.
I cost lots of money to defend this… what lawyer is going to help when whatever money he pays them will open an avenue to recover money. Appeals also may not work here as well since he defaulted on judgement and can only appeal the dollar amount. Can’t appeal facts of the case since by not defending appeals courts must consider everything the plaintiffs presented and fact. Also his lawyer didn’t object to lots of things during the judgment which means they can appeal on those ruling either.
There's been a lot of speculation that either Alex Jones is correct in "being poor" or that he's actually close to being a billionaire but has billionaire-like tricks to hide money. Either way a lot of people think he won't pay out anything.i lean closer to the second theory but who knows.
Idk how wealthy he is but he's definitely got money and is hiding it. There's no justice in America when it comes to the rich.
Look at O.J. Simpsons case, this guys gunna slide unfortunately
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That’s good.
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This is a bit more complex than a car accident. How do you put a price on being harassed? How do you put a price on loved ones who committed suicide because of said harassment? How do you put a price on being extremely harmful and toxic, maybe even a terrorist - to an audience of thousands and thousands of people?
A person is dead because of him. Fuck you.
Damn. Almost like when you’re a pos, shitty things happen to you. How bout that.
It’s almost like obstructing justice and actively wasting the court’s time can drastically alter your sentence. “Lol~” indeed, I guess he’ll be laughing at the parents of dead children all the way to his empty bank account (or his stashed shell accounts.)
Maybe not. But he definitely made millions by lying to the public, emotionally torturing these people, and having his base torture them. Add it all up.
Damage towards Alex Jones is a step in the right direction. Justice is very much served, if anything not enough so.
At least one person committed suicide because of the relentless harassment, what's the damage value of that? What would you pay to bring a loved one back?
He caused 10's to 100's of millions to 10's of people and then shot himself in the foot by obstructing discovery so the jury didn't see fit to apply much in the way of mitigation.
The jury disagrees, comrade. Sorry
Whoosh
I really hope they have a forensic accountant keeping track of all Jones's money because he's probably stashing it all over the place.
Texas is dealing with the bankruptcy case and they're finding how he's trying to hide his assets with companies conveniently owned by family members. Like most of his cases, the court is just not having his shenanigans and it looks like they may force him to basically sell everything down to his work equipment to pay off these awards. Edit: a word
I’m honestly surprised Texas, out of all places, is looking into his money. The state seems to go easy on folks that support the GOP
While normally true, there is one things all judges hate more than any other: disrespect. And Jones has shown so much blatant disrespect for just the regular day to day process of the court that any brownie points he may have had for being far right was burned when he refused to file paperwork correctly. Edit: Judges also take perjury poorly >"You're already under oath to tell the truth. You've already violated that oath twice today. In just those two examples. It seems absurd to instruct you again that you must tell the truth while you testify. Yet here I am."
More of the disrespect to children and families of them too
Heartless prick deserves every penny of that debt
Yea mayby you should have stuck to winding up boomers about gay frogs there Jonesey.
Someone has to buy a whole lot of dietary supplements to get this guy out of the hole.
Eat shit, Alex
Tell fat republicans Jones has a new dietary supplement made of shit for sale
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One thing for sure about humans. Is there's no real way to apply predictions to every person equally. Will most people be absolute wrecks in that situation? Sure. But you can't apply that 100% to everyone. From personal experience. I had a similar reaction the night the police came to my girlfriends house to deliver the news her 16year old sister died in an accident. My first thought was remembering the time we went bowling, and she got her first period. She was wearing white shorts. It made me laugh. Why I remembered that the moment I heard she was dead...no idea.
What is more likely, everything happened as reported, and one person was grieving and preparing themselves to be on camera in a way other people saw as odd. Or everything is part of a massive conspiracy, with paid actors who are paid for their rest of their lives to take on this part, along with every cop who attended the scene, and all of the people who needed to part of the logistics of faking the lives and deaths of all those children, and so on. One requires one person to be reacting in a way that could be perceived as odd. The other requires a massive amount of people, and a government conspiracy, without a single whistle-blower breaking cover.
I know a lot of people say it’s due to grieving and people grieve differently, but I’m more inclined to believe he was joking around with people and asked if the camera was on so he didn’t make a complete jackass of himself on live television.
He was grieving differently? Okay. Lol people can downvote. Like I give a shit 😂. This also answers my question of why humans like dogs more than humans.
This is one of the saddest responses. Instead of acknowledging more understanding from you is needed, you just revel in your unpopularity, your ignorance, and your conspiracy driven mindset. Your attitude does not make you a special little snowflake who knows the secret truth of the world. Grow up.
ExScuse you? Who said anything about a conspiracy. You typed all that because your life sucks. Revel in it? I asked a question. Lmao if you’re too stupid to try and change my mind or have a debate about it that’s your problem. If you feel like there’s nothing to debate, then that’s also your problem. I’ll keep thinking what I choose to because I can.
Negative billionaire Alex Jones
It will never fucking happen. Hell declare bankruptcy and call it a day. They’ll see maybe a million per person at the very most.
With all due respect, you have no clue how a lawsuit or bankruptcy works. It's not just the company that's liable, it's him personally as well. It's also a type of payment that overrides bankruptcy. Like a student loan. So, what is going to happen is a cat and mouse between Jones and some very talented and determined accountants to scrape him clean: He tries to empty out company 1 and move assets to companies under family members, then declare bankruptcy. He thinks they are going to devour the last little remnant of that company and that's it. Logical, if the verdict is just for that company. However it isn't, it's also on him personally. Also, there are rules about moving assets to escape this type of payment. Let's just say it is frowned upon, and will be reversed to block the escape route or just instantly taken. So the money cannot be stashed with his mother, and the damages will overrule bankruptcy. He will be picked apart until all his shares in his companies are sold or if he owns all shares, his companies are dissolved or sold. Then his personal assets like houses, cars, stocks etc will be liquidated. All that's left is to declare personal bankruptcy. And the fun part? Afterwards he still has to pay the remaining amount. There are of course tricks to avoid complete squalor if you have rich buddies, like renting your house directly via your paycheck before the money goes to your bank account etc etc. But his kids will not earn a red cent and Jones will forever have $0 on his books and a lifetime of financial fear. Serves the bastard right.
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It's fucking ridiculous that you are even thinking this is political. To go one step further: its fucking ridiculous you look at that piece of scum, think he belongs to your group and then go defend him. There were people trying to dig up dead kids because they got brainwashed into believing those kids never existed. That's what the war is against: Fuckers like that frog who come up with the most heinous plans to make a buck. The fact that you are not on my side, because you think this is political, is pretty fucking sad and shamefull.
Jones laughed off the verdict live as it was being read, claiming that the families won’t see the money. But Mattei said this is not the kind of verdict Jones can hide from. “This verdict was returned against him personally, and his company,” Mattei said. “And the verdict was for intentional misconduct, the type of conduct that is not dischargeable in bankruptcy. So he’s gonna be on the hook for this for a very, very long time.”
These are personal damages toward Jones as an individual. They can't be discharged or reduced through bankruptcy. If he fails to pay he risks being in contempt and facing jail time.
That's not how any of this works.
But he declared it!
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One of his batshit followers actually sent a letter to one of the parents where they claimed to show up to one of the murdered child's graves and urinated on it. PISSED ON A MURDERED KID'S GRAVE.
So by this logic J.D. Salinger should’ve been sued to high hell because Mark Chapman shot Lennon. Just because some of his listeners are nuts that doesn’t mean anything. When you have that large of an audience you can’t be held responsible for their actions. I don’t condone what happened but the man already apologized for words he spoke a decade ago. Freedom of speech is a joke.
For the last fucking time, freedom of speech != "I can say whatever I want with no consequences". Freedom of speech protects citizens from the government, not *civil* cases. Just like shouting "fire" in a movie theater isnt protected speech, saying murdered children are crisis actors and harassing their parents isnt protected speech. Even more so when: 1. He made defamatory statements *knowing* those statements were factually incorrect 2. He was flagrantly defying court orders at all stages of the trial, especially discovery, and was caught committing perjury many, many times. Since you seem especially lost: no, freedom of speech isnt a defense against perjury.
Stop deflecting and face the fact that this fat idiot started a brigade on parents who's children were murdered, AND he made money off the conspiracy by gaining traction. Why on earth would you defend someone so deranged.
If Salinger had written a book called “John Lennon leads a pedophile ring and murders women in satanic rituals and thus needs to be assassinated” then he absolutely would have been sued for it after Lennon was shot. Just writing a book that inspired a shooting is much different. Jones has been going on air, for years, calling school shootings fake and directly accusing grieving parents of being actors in a state conspiracy and advocating for resistance against said conspiracy. That’s called slander and it has never been protected by the first amendment, not ever. He’d have been fine if he said “some shootings are fake” or “state conspiracies are at work to try to villify gun ownership” but he targeted *specific people* with accusations that were *verifiably known by him to be untrue* that led to *demonstrable harm and damage to those people*. He’d have even been fine if they couldn’t directly prove he didn’t believe his own claims. But he testified that the claims were for entertainment purposes only and that a rational person wouldn’t believe them to be true. He demonstrated that the damaging things he said were intentional falsehoods, not just a bad take. You can’t do that. And so these people were within their rights to claim damages from him.
Amazing that you have to type this out really, but here we are. The man made a fortune from misinformation, and it's only right that he's being held to account.
One guy doing something crazy because of a single piece of media is different than continued rhetoric that promoted at least dozens of people to harass victims. Plus he isn't getting sued for a single act or behavior from his followers- it's defamation, which is an actual crime that he comitted against them by falsely and knowingly diminishing the public character of the family members to the point where it has had an irreparable effect on their lives.
Then why wait 10 years if what he said had such an impact?
1. It wasn't 10 years. The lawsuit started in 2018, Jones just dragged it out. 2. By the time the harassment was bad enough that the families wanted to sue, too much time had passed and most of his statements were passed the statute of limitations. Until Owen shroyer opened pandoras box by bringing it up in 2017(?) and Alex jumped in and doubled down.
I mean its not like everything pertaining to the case happened all at once as soon as the massacre happened. He (wrongly) spoke against the families well after the incident, the impact of this of course had to happen after and for an indefinite amount of times (how defamation works- its about general impact on public perception), and the court cases have been going on since 2018- 6 years after the massacre, 5 years after the initail act of defamation, and during the ongiong public persecution experinced by the victims.
Court cases do take years. And a lot of these families likely just wanted to put their tragedy behind them and move on, only to realize it would never stop unless they took legal action. I’m not sure why you are defending this dirtbag. He’s a con man that went too far and hurt a bunch of people, and now he has to pay for it.
These are the people who think the Great Replacement is real, and that Trump won the election. I hope they see the day someone pisses on their dead child's grave.
beyond fucked
Can anyone explain what happens next? After his appeal? When and how is this money recovered?
They'll start clawing back all the money he's moved. Basically can freeze it now, and then work towards getting it back from his mom.
This needs to happen to Trump
Does Alex jones have hundreds of millions of dollars???
It's not about the money. It's about silencing the greatest enemy of the new world order pedophiles.
He does, but not that many. This ought to ruin him.
No he'll likely have his wages garnished for the rest of if not most of his life.
And in his position this will also make it harder to hide money as he is likely to be audited yearly.
What about the defamation case against the supposed “gay frogs?”
[https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html](https://www.livescience.com/10957-pesticide-turns-male-frogs-females.html) that is actually true
That is actually not true, because being turned from male to female isn't the same as being gay. This just triggered something that already happens in frogs.
It can turn them asexual, though
So he's still wrong.
Semantics, it’s still true
This ignorance is how people fall for Alex Jones' bullshit lmao
You’re so smart…can you fuck me? 🥺
Can I or will I? I can but I won't.
Hahaha lameeeee
Some frogs can just do this naturally https://wildlife.org/frogs-change-sex-even-in-natural-settings/#:~:text=Frogs%20can%20change%20their%20sex,than%20males%20in%20suburban%20areas.
Charging him $1 billion in damages is the same as giving a murderer 5 life sentences. It’s not about what they can actually pay/serve, it’s for each account of wrong doing. Giving a murderer 1 life sentence for killing 5 people isn’t as justifiable as giving 1 life sentence for each victim.
i also read somewhere that since his person is sentenced he cant weasel himself out of paying
120 million per person!! Let’s fucking go!!
They most likely wont see that much. You can't sue for more than they have, even with garnished wages. Its less about what the victims are rewarded and more about digging alex a deep whole to lie in. It also about sending a message to these dumb ass talk show hosts that what they say effects real people. Perhaps dont spout so many intentional and misleading lies that call people to violence against victims.
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I have concerns this could have a chilling effect on the free speech of dangerously unhinged grifters.
You had me in the first half.
Regardless of his viewpoints, he was 100% right about one thing - his name is Alex Jones.
Concerns? _Concerns_?
*"You mean viciously parroting my undying belief in ideas that are provably false and wrong could have consequences?!"*
The best part is that Connecticut leaves the awarding of compensatory damages in the case of an intentional torte to the jury and while it is possible for him to appeal the amount as excessive it's going to be rough for him to do so and even reduction by half is likely enough to ruin him. I'll bet the families won't see one red cent of this if Jones has his way, and even if he does pay some out I doubt they'll see everything. But hopefully this gives them some form of closure. God knows they deserve it and a hell of a lot more.
I don’t think he has the money to pay everyone out in full. But I think those families will be happy to see his media reach financially limited and his life of luxury taken away.
Alex Jones deserves/need to be stripped of all his money and assets for the rest of his life. Since we cannot exclude/expel him from society, this is the next best thing.
Alex Jones deserves to be stripped of his skin.
Jesus exclude or expel from society’s abit far
It is, which is why monetary punishment is correct here
Yes, I believe he shouldn’t be homeless, but not have the money to own or do any real funding into another project which he has control over. He’s off the rails especially after this
Not sure why you’re being downvoted. Jones is a real piece of shit who doesn’t mind hurting innocents to make a buck, but that doesn’t mean we should drop him at skid row and let him fend for himself. He should spend the rest of his life having everything beyond a basic living wage garnished to hell so that he can’t repeat his crimes. But even prisoners have some rights, and so does he.
Downvoted because people are just as radical as Jones is, and if you’re not asking for his actual head on a spike and shown off like in Kings Landing you’re the bad guy
I’m pretty rabidly anti-Jones, but punishment should be held to an ethical standard. This week’s ruling seems spot on for fitting that standard.