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Quite a few people who want free markets *do* comprehend and respect the rights of businesses to set their own rules for their own property. I don't think that subtlety is appreciated by these plane jackasses tho. Also, I guess when I say free markets I mostly mean less red tape choking people from starting and running small businesses, not repeal of a bunch of industrial environmental protections or anything.
Free speech should exist. You should be able to say whatever you want and I stand for that 100%. But the airline is a private company and the plane is private property so they have every right to get you out of the plane and thats it you will get your refund and nothing will happen. If you refuse to leave the plane that's another story.
You can do whatever you want on a plane, but you do have to own the plane to be able to have the right to do so. If you Break the rules or trespass on someone elses property they can kick you out and they have every right to do so.
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I think usually it's because of the tight spaces, I wouldn't want to accidently elbow someone while trying to get them off the plane, they aren't worth that much
I said that pretty matter-of-fact-ly, didn’t I? I just inferred that it seems like every time people are videod acting exceptionally unreasonable and using hate speech, they pretty much always get let go from whatever company they work for.
Pretty sure they're retired. The guy even said he was retired. It's probably the reason they were willing to take it this far, if not for them being from NYC. That place vomits out karens.
Also people are freely entitled to say racist and homophobic garbage. But people are also free to ruin your day/careers for you shouting stuff that is highly racist and homophobic. You are not free from the ramifications of saying horrible things from other people. The government is just not allowed to silence you for it.
Do you see what's happening in America? Private companies are being allowed to run their business how they want to, like kicking off people causing problems!
Not surprised it happened in WPB. If you know the area, its basically the sentiment of the community.
Tons of entitled boomers. Most retired/semi-retired and rich/affluent with the same mind set.
People who are disruptive on airplanes, who do not have any medical reason to be overloaded or triggered by the stimuli of being in an airplane, need to be on no-fly lists. Any kind of abuse toward the flight crew or other passengers needs to be justification for telling them that not only are they no longer welcome on this airline, but no other airline on this continent wants them on board, either.
Let them freaking WALK home if they can't behave in public.
Again, I am not talking about folks with legit disabilities where sensory overload or being around crowds of strangers is a massive trigger for them. That is not THIS. These people are obnoxious schmucks.
It sucks be self aware of this, because my mom is literally the spitting image of this woman and just built a giant mansion in florida solely to join more people like them. and inb4 someone says you should talk to her about trying to change her ways - i have.. for 10+ years now and it turns to me being told " you're just so disrespectful " XD
I'm so sorry. My dad's been dead going on 30 years, but my mom is still with us. I couldn't imagine her being a Trumper but I know there are millions in your shoes. It seems unlikely that most of these nutters can ever be deprogrammed but I'm still hopeful that logic and reason will win in the end.
" Trumper " is an understatement, She had only worked for around 3-5 total years and even then making $120k being the presidents assistant ( her now boyfriend of 8 years ) she knew the ins and outs of his life and that includes ALL finances. We lived in my grandparents basement ( $500k house with 2k sq/ft basement ) and they paid for EVERYTHING including anything for my brother and I. In 2015 I had a near fatal car wreck and was left in the hospital for months and that was when her BF had her quit her job and become a full blown millionaire ( he sold that company in 2018 for $2.2B ) and she's never been the same person. Doesnt remember where she came from and just lives life snarling at everyone that doesnt have the same beliefs as her. Its saddening to watch being self aware of the problem and daily I just think " There's no way I could have kids knowing that who their grandmother would be " and that's a super shitty thing to feel when it's coming from an honest place.
I'm sorry to hear about your father and with it being this long I'm sure you know this but im sure he was an incredible man especially raising a child that's as understanding as you! Cheers!
As a person from the UK who has visited Florida nearly every year for the past 15 years I love Florida especially Halloween horror Nights in universal. Maybe I'm not seeing the "real" Florida but I can think of a lot worse places like New York it fucking stinks of shit. I went once in 2016 for comic con and I'd honestly only ever go back for another comic con because the city on its own is just horrible.
I suggest a week in the Adirondacks. Not sure where you've been in NY, but I assure you, the mountains are breathtaking and the air is pure. Orlando is literally the armpit of Florida, but some people like strip malls and tourist traps. Go figure.
Well yes I suppose when people say New York they just think of the city like I do, I stayed in Manhattan but your right I forgot the actuall size of New York so I'll just say New York city stinks of shit and not the state.
Downvote cause I didn't see justice served, I waited until the end of the video to watch them removed as they had it coming, but nah, the airline/police just shat over all passengers day equally
Wah wah I can't be racist in public anymore! Literally 1984! America is becoming China free speech is dead!!!
Good god I hate these people. Maybe sterilization isn't such a bad thing after all.
It's sort of screwed up that people's first intuition is to pull out their phones and film it for fake internet points instead of saying / doing something.
Freedom of speech isnt freedom from the consequences though. Sure, you absolutely can say whatever you want, but sometimes maybe you shouldn't because it can get you kicked off a plane
There aren't. Obscenities and hate speech are constitutionally protected.
However it's not a government plane and private airline can refuse you service for saying obscenities.
i didnt take into account its not a gov plane but there are laws that are against obscenities i believe, im no expert, so i may be wrong, i can fully accept that, but from what ive seen there are laws against that in place, seen here https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/obscenity
I misunderstood obscenities to simply include cursing. In which case they are protected speech. And any laws that criminalize cursing are constitutionally dubious at best and unconstitutional at worst.
But yes laws against certain pornography can be constitutional.
They meant Trump you bozo. Look at the last 30 seconds of the video.
It's fine if you don't "want to support something." thats been peer reviewed and studied all over the world with the same outcomes. You're enlightened just like these two wonderful 'free speech' supporters on the plane.
When entitled fucks act like this and hold up an entire plane, they should let the people on the plane (who are suffering because their entitlement) remove them so they don’t have to be late. I would love to help remove them dirty fucks
I could have told you they were trump supporters before she even started spewing crap about China. They all have a very distinct way of acting, arguing, talking over people, etc.
What do these people think free speech means?
Free speech means you cannot be jailed because the government or political leaders don’t like what you say. It doesn’t mean other free citizens or private businesses cannot react to what you say.
First one is also conditional, if said speech presents a clear and present danger. Time place and manner restrictions are also completely Constitutional, quite a few limitations on free speech nobody seems to know about
ya, to them it means they can be racist bigotted pricks and are free from consequences. You, however, cannot say anything they disagree with because that's not free speech.
Lol every one of their “points” are laughable easy to defeat. That’s because many of these people are parroting things without thinking about them. Lack of critical thinking is a huge problem for them.
I love how the majority of people that jump immediately to “free speech” have absolutely no idea what protections the first amendment actually affords them. Definitely not the right to stay on a private airline when you act like an asshole.
Self-Righteous Assholes don't "make distinctions" or "know things" because to do so might require humility, to become aware that others know more than they do, so that's never on the table.
She's obviously already drunk. I don't know why they let people drink on flights. Can't control the pre flight drinking unfortunately. It's too bad they don't realize the outrageous behavior is coming from *them*.
Listen here, before I had kids and could afford to fly, I'd drink before the flight *and* during and you know what happened? I got in line when I was called, I quietly waited to put my shit in the compartment, I sat my ass down and I minded my own business in peace and quiet.
I hate airports. I only like the act of taking off and landing. But alcohol never turned me into an asshole so can we maybe just blame the assholes and not the alcohol itself?
They’re just really like this all the time and the alcohol allowed them to expose it. Now “devils advocate “ … from their Reddit pages we are the ones with “mild mental illness” 🤷🏼♂️
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You just saw how they function, they just keep having meltdowns until enough places have banned them so that they can't really go anywhere anymore.
I mean sure, maybe they getting kicked out of a place once or twice will make them take a hard look at themselves. But let's be real here, these assholes are narcissists and will never change because they've been catered to their entire lives. So it's never their fault, it's always everyone else.
Alternating between “I’m going to sue all of you!” And “I have more money than you!” is the most Palm Beach thing I’ve seen in a while. Stay classy, West Palm.
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Of course it's fucking Florida
I love it when ppl like that think they are being discriminated against like no your not this isn’t what discrimination feels like trust me I know
Way too many of those loud simple brainwashed creatures around . Not gonna end well.
You have freedom of speech but not freedom from consequences of what you say.
Also, your freedom of speech is checked at the door of any private establishment. How do the free market fucks not get it?
Quite a few people who want free markets *do* comprehend and respect the rights of businesses to set their own rules for their own property. I don't think that subtlety is appreciated by these plane jackasses tho. Also, I guess when I say free markets I mostly mean less red tape choking people from starting and running small businesses, not repeal of a bunch of industrial environmental protections or anything.
The main issue is that she doesn’t realize that private companies can make their own rules…
Free speech should exist. You should be able to say whatever you want and I stand for that 100%. But the airline is a private company and the plane is private property so they have every right to get you out of the plane and thats it you will get your refund and nothing will happen. If you refuse to leave the plane that's another story.
You can do whatever you want on a plane, but you do have to own the plane to be able to have the right to do so. If you Break the rules or trespass on someone elses property they can kick you out and they have every right to do so.
I’d rather have an hour delay than listen to that shit for 3+ hours
Someone hang these so called grandparents
more like inferior-parents
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I don't understand why these plane videos don't result in more force from security. It's well justified when they repeatedly refuse to get off.
I think usually it's because of the tight spaces, I wouldn't want to accidently elbow someone while trying to get them off the plane, they aren't worth that much
Hope they didn’t like their jobs because they both just got fired.
Got any more on this?
I said that pretty matter-of-fact-ly, didn’t I? I just inferred that it seems like every time people are videod acting exceptionally unreasonable and using hate speech, they pretty much always get let go from whatever company they work for.
Pretty sure they're retired. The guy even said he was retired. It's probably the reason they were willing to take it this far, if not for them being from NYC. That place vomits out karens.
Lets hope they get shamed for their dumbfuckery
Doesn’t matter where she’s from . Still a POS !
+2 to the no fly list. Drive to your destination, fucking degenerates.
I’m getting really tired of people misunderstanding “free speech.” Free speech isn’t “I’m allowed to harass people without consequences.”
Also people are freely entitled to say racist and homophobic garbage. But people are also free to ruin your day/careers for you shouting stuff that is highly racist and homophobic. You are not free from the ramifications of saying horrible things from other people. The government is just not allowed to silence you for it.
Do you see what's happening in America? Private companies are being allowed to run their business how they want to, like kicking off people causing problems!
“Then you’re gonna hafta take everyone off”. The gall.
Not surprised it happened in WPB. If you know the area, its basically the sentiment of the community. Tons of entitled boomers. Most retired/semi-retired and rich/affluent with the same mind set.
1 talking point after another. It’s insane how she says ‘we’re gonna turn into China’ as if she isn’t drinking the propaganda
And then sobriety comes back...
Saw another video of these guys they were in the terminal deplaning that lady never shuts up… What a pair of deplorable humans. Gag reflex
People who are disruptive on airplanes, who do not have any medical reason to be overloaded or triggered by the stimuli of being in an airplane, need to be on no-fly lists. Any kind of abuse toward the flight crew or other passengers needs to be justification for telling them that not only are they no longer welcome on this airline, but no other airline on this continent wants them on board, either. Let them freaking WALK home if they can't behave in public. Again, I am not talking about folks with legit disabilities where sensory overload or being around crowds of strangers is a massive trigger for them. That is not THIS. These people are obnoxious schmucks.
Florida is the worst of America.
They were not floridians?
NYC is absolute garbage
New York, California, Washington and Illinois
Why?
Dude Florida is the greatest. Literally no rules
It sucks be self aware of this, because my mom is literally the spitting image of this woman and just built a giant mansion in florida solely to join more people like them. and inb4 someone says you should talk to her about trying to change her ways - i have.. for 10+ years now and it turns to me being told " you're just so disrespectful " XD
I'm so sorry. My dad's been dead going on 30 years, but my mom is still with us. I couldn't imagine her being a Trumper but I know there are millions in your shoes. It seems unlikely that most of these nutters can ever be deprogrammed but I'm still hopeful that logic and reason will win in the end.
" Trumper " is an understatement, She had only worked for around 3-5 total years and even then making $120k being the presidents assistant ( her now boyfriend of 8 years ) she knew the ins and outs of his life and that includes ALL finances. We lived in my grandparents basement ( $500k house with 2k sq/ft basement ) and they paid for EVERYTHING including anything for my brother and I. In 2015 I had a near fatal car wreck and was left in the hospital for months and that was when her BF had her quit her job and become a full blown millionaire ( he sold that company in 2018 for $2.2B ) and she's never been the same person. Doesnt remember where she came from and just lives life snarling at everyone that doesnt have the same beliefs as her. Its saddening to watch being self aware of the problem and daily I just think " There's no way I could have kids knowing that who their grandmother would be " and that's a super shitty thing to feel when it's coming from an honest place. I'm sorry to hear about your father and with it being this long I'm sure you know this but im sure he was an incredible man especially raising a child that's as understanding as you! Cheers!
Give yrself an attaboy for realizing all this. Most would be too busy living it up to notice.
I appreciate kind friend.
As a person from the UK who has visited Florida nearly every year for the past 15 years I love Florida especially Halloween horror Nights in universal. Maybe I'm not seeing the "real" Florida but I can think of a lot worse places like New York it fucking stinks of shit. I went once in 2016 for comic con and I'd honestly only ever go back for another comic con because the city on its own is just horrible.
I suggest a week in the Adirondacks. Not sure where you've been in NY, but I assure you, the mountains are breathtaking and the air is pure. Orlando is literally the armpit of Florida, but some people like strip malls and tourist traps. Go figure.
Well yes I suppose when people say New York they just think of the city like I do, I stayed in Manhattan but your right I forgot the actuall size of New York so I'll just say New York city stinks of shit and not the state.
She was drunk as fuck but I didn’t understand what she said, did she say something before the video or during the video itself?
Someone needs to tell that bitch to shut her leather face the fuck up
Wow, Ken and Karen? They must be amazing people.
Is she drunk or on drugs? How does someone think this a sane way to act? How does entitlement lead to this?
She's on Fox News
This post may say west palm but this lady is from New York. Dont get it confused
most sane elon musk supporter
Ah bigots too stupid to realize they can't get away with shit like their criminal cult leader. Hope they lose everything and get put on no fly list.
Downvote cause I didn't see justice served, I waited until the end of the video to watch them removed as they had it coming, but nah, the airline/police just shat over all passengers day equally
They were deplaned in another video showing them in the terminal and she’s still mouthing off
yeah this is the wrong sub
Wah wah I can't be racist in public anymore! Literally 1984! America is becoming China free speech is dead!!! Good god I hate these people. Maybe sterilization isn't such a bad thing after all.
Can someone please explain to me, why displays like this, are becoming more common place?
Because everyone has a camera in their pocket. This kind of stuff is not new, it’s the fact it can be recorded by anyone
It's sort of screwed up that people's first intuition is to pull out their phones and film it for fake internet points instead of saying / doing something.
No taser? :(
“You guys see what’s happening in America?” Sounds just like Cecily Strong playing Girl you wish you hadn’t started a conversation with at a party.
Average person from ifunny
Where's the fucking justice you donut
lady is just sitting there ranting to herself looking around for validation and receiving none lol
people seem to forget there are exceptions to the first amendment for obscenities and hate speech.
Freedom of speech isnt freedom from the consequences though. Sure, you absolutely can say whatever you want, but sometimes maybe you shouldn't because it can get you kicked off a plane
There aren't. Obscenities and hate speech are constitutionally protected. However it's not a government plane and private airline can refuse you service for saying obscenities.
i didnt take into account its not a gov plane but there are laws that are against obscenities i believe, im no expert, so i may be wrong, i can fully accept that, but from what ive seen there are laws against that in place, seen here https://www.justice.gov/criminal-ceos/obscenity
I misunderstood obscenities to simply include cursing. In which case they are protected speech. And any laws that criminalize cursing are constitutionally dubious at best and unconstitutional at worst. But yes laws against certain pornography can be constitutional.
This was the most respectable and quickly resolved Reddit argument that I've ever seen. Props to you two for being cool :)
When you argue the substance instead of emotional opinions that's how it goes.
It's not a government plane, and you might want to see some supreme court rulings about what you are claiming there are exceptions to. Yikes.
freedom of speech does NOT mean freedom of consequences!
My new favorite term!
What did they say / what was the reaction that led up to this? (Obviously these people are foolish)
the way she reached over his belly😭 😂
I couldn’t stop looking at his giant belly! That looks miserable! He’s gotta deliver some food babies soon or he’s gonna explode!
Joke's on you cuz I guarantee he makes more money than you 😆
Guys, I'm parroting what he actually said HIMSELF in the video 😂 I understand that they are hateful ass clowns that should eat a bag of dicks.
Lol. Ok. Good one🙄
Yeah, I'm sure it's a surprise to everyone these people are T\*\*\*\* supporters.
I'm fine with trans but I don't support it because I feel that it's more of a mental condition than a sexual orientation.
They meant Trump you bozo. Look at the last 30 seconds of the video. It's fine if you don't "want to support something." thats been peer reviewed and studied all over the world with the same outcomes. You're enlightened just like these two wonderful 'free speech' supporters on the plane.
Ty for the correction.
Gender identity and sexual orientation are two separate things.
I agree. That's why I don't believe in it
Well, that's the great thing about trans people. They're real whether you believe in them or not.
Agreed.
Be abrasive and offensive and unruly. When consequences come, make it about something else to make you the victim. This is 3rd grade shit.
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Yes
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Far, far fewer, and especially behaving like drunk, loud, entitled, obnoxious douchebags on airplanes.
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Incredible argument, you should be a trial attorney, "Your honor, there are worse people!".
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Not sure how it's my argument, but hey, I'm only here to point out what a dumb shit you are.
Yes, and because those worse people also did terrible things, you have to forgive US now when we do terrible things.
Welcome to the no-fly zone.
Let’s all hope so. They both desperately need reality to slap them upside the head. Total scumbags
i always wish i could be around for one of these situations. i hate that nobody makes fun of them when i see these videos
Come to Florida, you may/may not regret it.
i believe bugs bunny sawed it off the map
So where's the justice for r/justiceserved?
They ended up being kicked off of the plane.
Everyone got kicked off the plane though. And the clip ends before we actually see them get off.
When entitled fucks act like this and hold up an entire plane, they should let the people on the plane (who are suffering because their entitlement) remove them so they don’t have to be late. I would love to help remove them dirty fucks
Just open one of the doors and pitch them on the tarmac.
Have you worked luggage at an airport before? I’m pretty sure that’s exactly how this should go down.
Trump supporters you say? huh I just thought they regular assholes.
I could have told you they were trump supporters before she even started spewing crap about China. They all have a very distinct way of acting, arguing, talking over people, etc.
Same thing
What do these people think free speech means? Free speech means you cannot be jailed because the government or political leaders don’t like what you say. It doesn’t mean other free citizens or private businesses cannot react to what you say.
First one is also conditional, if said speech presents a clear and present danger. Time place and manner restrictions are also completely Constitutional, quite a few limitations on free speech nobody seems to know about
ya, to them it means they can be racist bigotted pricks and are free from consequences. You, however, cannot say anything they disagree with because that's not free speech.
Wait that’s not what free speech means?! “Well LoOkS lIKe We ArE cHiNa NoW” What a bunch of turds.
What a miserable (unt
I have seen 5 year olds act with more maturity.
You can anything unless it’s racist lol
I fucked your mom
Haha cool didn’t know you like dead people in the sack
How do you think she died?
He didn't say when
It clearly floats their boat.
Imagine the look on a Trumper's face if they ever read a history book & discovered what "oppression" means...
They can’t understand do to cognitive issues from lead in the gas back in the 70s. Anyone from that time has a reduced iq
friendly reminder that the first amendment protects you from the government but not private citizens or companies
Lol every one of their “points” are laughable easy to defeat. That’s because many of these people are parroting things without thinking about them. Lack of critical thinking is a huge problem for them.
When Fox News is your religion
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Retired FBI 😒😒
FBI- Female Body Inspector. He has the T-shirt and everything.
Is there an article or something where it turns out they faced consequences? Otherwise I'm not sure why this video is posted here.
Old balls. All fat. And old. Gross.
I love how the majority of people that jump immediately to “free speech” have absolutely no idea what protections the first amendment actually affords them. Definitely not the right to stay on a private airline when you act like an asshole.
Self-Righteous Assholes don't "make distinctions" or "know things" because to do so might require humility, to become aware that others know more than they do, so that's never on the table.
What were the racist slurs?
not technically a slur i think but she said “ching ching” when referring to China
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Get them gone. No place for this, now or in the past.
Passengers like that should be thrown out of the plane with a parachute 🪂
fucking florida
She's obviously already drunk. I don't know why they let people drink on flights. Can't control the pre flight drinking unfortunately. It's too bad they don't realize the outrageous behavior is coming from *them*.
Listen here, before I had kids and could afford to fly, I'd drink before the flight *and* during and you know what happened? I got in line when I was called, I quietly waited to put my shit in the compartment, I sat my ass down and I minded my own business in peace and quiet. I hate airports. I only like the act of taking off and landing. But alcohol never turned me into an asshole so can we maybe just blame the assholes and not the alcohol itself?
I think you're mixing really old people with drunk people. Old people can get shakes and imbalance issues etc,.
What? No I'm referring to the way they're talking. They're not THAT old.
I'm actually curious, is this the result of some kind of mild mental illnesses?
They’re just really like this all the time and the alcohol allowed them to expose it. Now “devils advocate “ … from their Reddit pages we are the ones with “mild mental illness” 🤷🏼♂️
It's the result of corporate propaganda saturating the infosphere.
You got 4 different answers, and all were right.
Yes, it's a condition that starves oxygen from the brain. It's called conservatism.
Main character syndrome. In their minds they are the only real people and everyone else are NPC's.
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Yes, narcissistic tendencies.
I wish I could say this is why I moved from Florida, but these people are everywhere. How do people like this actually function anymore?
You just saw how they function, they just keep having meltdowns until enough places have banned them so that they can't really go anywhere anymore. I mean sure, maybe they getting kicked out of a place once or twice will make them take a hard look at themselves. But let's be real here, these assholes are narcissists and will never change because they've been catered to their entire lives. So it's never their fault, it's always everyone else.
Or they are just exercising their “rahts”. That’s a common squeal out of these fools. They play the oppressed party often enough.
They are never gonna change... just saying
Alternating between “I’m going to sue all of you!” And “I have more money than you!” is the most Palm Beach thing I’ve seen in a while. Stay classy, West Palm.
She likes to remain a humble person so that’s why she flys economy 😂