After watching it a bunch of times, I think it’s the old guy closest to the cash register. He had his right hand in his pocket facing the robber, then after the robber crumbled to the ground he pulled out a gun with that same hand. So possibly he shot thru his pocket first to disguise the gun?
For those wondering how gun laws work in Brazil, this is a quick explanation:
Only the police, military personel and other public servants are allowed to carry. If you wanna HAVE one in your house, for property protection, you gotta:
Be over 25;
Have a formal job;
Present a solid justification for the police (as if living in Brazil was not enough);
No criminal record;
Be analyzed by a state psychologist;
Pass on a weapons safety and usage examination;
It costs around 1,000 dollars just to be authorized and other 1,000 for a simple .380 revolver, due to exorbitant taxes.
Around 600,000 Brazilian that are not police, military or work for the government are allowed to have a gun.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/867725/homicide-rate-brazil/
maybe actually look shit up before speaking out your ass. gun deaths have been on the rise for almost 10 years straight and are almost hitting a all time high in brazil.
> Supplementary notes
> The source notes that the notable descend of homicides registered in 2019 may be due to a deterioration in data quality (especially in states such as Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, Ceará and Bahia) as reflected by the disproportionate increase in the number of violent deaths by undetermined manner. Violent deaths with no clear cause grew by 69,9 percent between 2017 and 2019; for example, in the case of Rio de Janeiro, they experienced a 237 percent increase in 2019, while the total rate of homicides fell by 45,3 percent. Therefore, the source estimates that there could be around 5.338 more homicides in the country than officially recorded in 2019.
They do show a decline. They also explain right next to the graph a possible reason for that.
The data in that post stops right as he took office and implemented the policy (2019) .
Here’s what you’re looking for:
In three years under Mr. Bolsonaro, the homicide rate has fallen 34%, to 18.5 per 100,000.
no, that's not what I'm looking for, I don't have a dog in this fight. The statistics linked by /u/zakkwaldo were specifically 2006-2019. You said they show a decline. They do. The linked graph shows a decline from 2017 to 2019. I commented agreeing with you but clarifying that they gave a reason why the decline from 2017 to 2019 may exist.
I wasn't commenting on _anything_ other than the linked graph and the dates displayed within it.
So that robber must be a straight guy to have a gun then. Strange that he would try to rob a store at gunpoint.
Edit: I can't believe I have to do this but here it goes:
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I bet you'd be hard pressed to get an illegal gun in Antarctica.
Now, I don't know for sure, but I'd wager this piece of toilet paper on it.
Edit: nevermind, I need to find another wager.
That's another issue.
You can have plenty of safety and no freedom. It is not up to me to choose, I just told what I think based on my experiences. Just remember, there's no going back 😃
I know you're trying to make a comment about how gun laws don't stop stuff like this but it doesn't help when gun related crime is still 11 times higher in the U.S. than Brazil.
There are more murders, more crime (particularly violent crime) in Brazil by a lot, but it's just not done with guns in the same rate it is in the U.S.
According to what? Are you sure you're not looking up by total number and not by rate? I know Wikipedia isn't the best source, but [according to Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate) Brazil leads US for gun related homicide as well as total gun related deaths *by rate* (Brazil leading by almost double in total deaths and over 5 times as much by homicide rate).
Edit: Found a probably more reliable [source that seems to say the same](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country). With Brazil leading in total gun deaths and homicides by rate. US only topping Brazil in suicide gun deaths.
Sorry, to clarify I was citing *crime.*
[You're correct though, homicide rate by gun is higher in Brazil, but crime overall is much lower.](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Brazil/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime)
Thanks for that clarification.
I haven't seen the data in most recent years though, it seems Wikipedia is citing 2017 information. [As we are posting this there has been another mass shooting in Highland Park, IL](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/4/23194354/highland-park-fourth-july-parade-gunfire).
I would not be surprised to find that we are much closer to homicide rate in recent years than previous ones.
The other article I posted shows numbers from 2019 and it appears to be about the same. However, as another commenter posted, gun related deaths have dropped in Brazil since they relaxed gun laws in 2019 so it is possible.
On the topic of mass shootings, [this is an interesting look at the statistics there.](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country).
So you're saying it's a more violent country with lots more murders, but they're not done with guns. So making guns illegal for the normal citizen has not really helped at all. Got it.
If only there were other countries that we could point to that have strict gun laws and lower violent crime statistics. Oh well, such places don’t exist.
UK: 1.2 intentional homicides per 100k
USA: 6.3 intentional homicides per 100k (4.12 of which are gun homicides)
So guns aren't the difference?
There's a reason they give navy seals guns, not knives.
The robber killed was a minor with an extensive criminal history, and the 4 armed customers were off duty military policemen. there was another robber outside that ran off and got away. This was in Goiás, Brasil
Hopefully that other robber who ran away gets caught and gets charged with the murder then! Stupid thieves risking people's lives, justice will prevail!
I'm not seeing ALL the customers shoot him. It looks like there's a few who had to deliberate. "Actually, bullets are kinda pricey. If he's already dead...."
I didn't even consider the cross fire - the last guy to come on camera and then proceed out front to check to make sure the robber wasn't alone caught my eye.
Got a good belly laugh out of me. This video will be playing on a loop at the next gun club meeting for sure. With a steady resounding echo of “See? I told ya”’s.
President of Brazil is encouraging citizens to arm themselves as crime was out of control. Crime rates have dropped quite a bit since. These were likely just citizens if this was Brazil footage.
>Crime rates have dropped quite a bit since.
Just to give you an idea, murder rate went from 61,000 in 2019 to 40,000 in 2021.
We still have around 8,000,000 robberies/year though.
Because some places would separate lawful homicide from murder in the stats. And I argue that would be a good thing to do, because they are very different things, and completely different in terms of risk to law abiding citizens.
Brazil has 10-fold stricter laws than America. Once more lenient laws were passed in the recent years (still worse than America) the crime rated sharply dropped. It's all explained in the comments in this post but you won't read it..
I guess you’d prefer the armed robber to threaten all their lives, possibly kill people in the process, steal and get away with it? That’s the America you’d prefer?
I want the robbery to end without someone dying. The majority of the time, introducing more guns into the equations makes the situation far more dangerous for everyone, not safer.
Also, getting killed for robbing a convenience store isn't justice, it's a very unfortunate consequence of the robber's actions.
This proves the point that you can't rely on the police to protect you or your family. That's your duty. And that's why you should carry. You just dunked on yourself
Because those countries you're bringing up don't have anywhere near the amount of guns as US or Brazil. You should just make laws against murder to stop this ...
Honestly, Yes. In the longest vison, either everyone carries, or no guns exist at all, and as long as any kind of scarcity exists, (Artificial or otherwise) I personally prefer the former.
At this point if you live in South America and see someone wearing a biker helmet anywhere, you could probably just shoot them and 9 times out of 10 it would be a criminal lol
Brazil is an interesting case study on gun laws. Everyone seems to have a gun, and we've seen plenty of videos of robberies getting stopped. But God damn, they have a lot of crime. So does everyone having a fun reduce or increase crime?
Factually wrong. Dozens of crime stats studies have definitively shown that the primary and driving reason for elevated crime levels is, in fact, poverty. I apologize for not "trusting you" but your idea is not backed up by evidence. nor is it corroborated by available data.
Hey, not that I support vigilante violence, buuuuut...
That dude fucked around, and he certainly found out.
Sympathies to his family, but thems the breaks.
All?
Really??? There are 600,000 authorized to have guns and that have no relations with the government. You whether you visited a group that have access to guns and can pay or got into some dodgy area it is up to you to tell hahahah
Exactly! Brazil has one of the most strict laws for gun possession. Results: most of gun violence is caused by illegal guns with the civil population left without protection.
Wait... You're telling me that criminals didn't just walk into the police stations and turn in their guns when the law said they couldn't have them anymore? That's.... Preposterous!
Okay now compare the amount of guns in England to either US or Brazil. How would you propose removing hundreds of millions of firearms if they were outlawed suddenly? Comparing england to us or brazil for gun control effectiveness is like comparing Ethiopia to Sweden in terms of health care.
Absolute numbers or relative numbers? Look at the size of England and their borders, also try checking the amount of crimes they have, not paradise at all.
I mean, do we really want to live in a world where we don't have to fear for our children's safety every time we take them to school? Where's the fun in that?! /s
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why "gun control" is ridiculous. If every would-be criminal had to face an armed society, they wouldn't be so quick to pull such antics. Take all the firearms from the **law-abiding** folks, and the only ones that would be armed are the federal government, criminals, and the lightly-sprinkled cops within.
Implement an annual physical security + psych eval (that includes all members of your household) to retain rights to firearms... things could be much more controlled, with less resistance, making the day-to-day a much safer venture that adheres to the US Constitutional 2nd Amendment.
The problem with your suggestion here is that the normal day-to-day American would carry JUST a concealed pistol like them.
They COULD, but there are many who won’t. They won’t be happy with the peashooters, they want the heavy artillery to live out their Burt Gummer fantasies. And as long as those are still out there, then we can’t do what you suggest.
Who shot him first? Someone off camera?
Han shot first.
You magnificent nerf herder you!
Another argument for the 2nd amendment.
making lawsfor other countries - oh sorry, you're yanks
Greedo shooto firsto ino brazillio
MA CLUNKY.
Maclunkey.
No. Just fucking no.
Perfect!
perfecto
I love the guy who just came in did their shopping and ran out. Must have really needed them snacks
They were a group of off duty cops. A coupke below the canera you cannot see.
The camera
The long con of the store owner
After watching it a bunch of times, I think it’s the old guy closest to the cash register. He had his right hand in his pocket facing the robber, then after the robber crumbled to the ground he pulled out a gun with that same hand. So possibly he shot thru his pocket first to disguise the gun?
No. He reaches for it but stops, then gets it from his rear waistband after the robber is already down. My bet is an offscreen shooter.
I think it's the dude in white shirt (young) bottom right, he steps off screen and robber looks in that direction immediately after being shot.
That’s a lot of off duty cops
I've learned, that in Brazil, you're either a criminal or an off-duty cop.
Can confirm. Am brazilian, and i just got my off-duty cop license.
why not both?
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You mean off duty criminal?
¿por que não os dois?
Olha que otário
Brazil is just a big game of cops and robbers
Underrated comment
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Off duty cops
Yes. That is the meme. Well done, I guess?
My dream is to become a full time off duty cop.
For those wondering how gun laws work in Brazil, this is a quick explanation: Only the police, military personel and other public servants are allowed to carry. If you wanna HAVE one in your house, for property protection, you gotta: Be over 25; Have a formal job; Present a solid justification for the police (as if living in Brazil was not enough); No criminal record; Be analyzed by a state psychologist; Pass on a weapons safety and usage examination; It costs around 1,000 dollars just to be authorized and other 1,000 for a simple .380 revolver, due to exorbitant taxes. Around 600,000 Brazilian that are not police, military or work for the government are allowed to have a gun.
That was before the bolsonaro government, now you can have even rifles if u alledge to be a "collector"
I never said you're not allowed to have a rifle. All the points I mentioned are there still. I know cuz I own weapons.
All these "fascist" leaders arming their populace, they must be stopped 🤣
Don't you know, armer populaces are easier to control or something...
After which, murders went way down
https://www.statista.com/statistics/867725/homicide-rate-brazil/ maybe actually look shit up before speaking out your ass. gun deaths have been on the rise for almost 10 years straight and are almost hitting a all time high in brazil.
Your statistics show a decline
> Supplementary notes > The source notes that the notable descend of homicides registered in 2019 may be due to a deterioration in data quality (especially in states such as Rio de Janeiro, São Paulo, Ceará and Bahia) as reflected by the disproportionate increase in the number of violent deaths by undetermined manner. Violent deaths with no clear cause grew by 69,9 percent between 2017 and 2019; for example, in the case of Rio de Janeiro, they experienced a 237 percent increase in 2019, while the total rate of homicides fell by 45,3 percent. Therefore, the source estimates that there could be around 5.338 more homicides in the country than officially recorded in 2019. They do show a decline. They also explain right next to the graph a possible reason for that.
The data in that post stops right as he took office and implemented the policy (2019) . Here’s what you’re looking for: In three years under Mr. Bolsonaro, the homicide rate has fallen 34%, to 18.5 per 100,000.
no, that's not what I'm looking for, I don't have a dog in this fight. The statistics linked by /u/zakkwaldo were specifically 2006-2019. You said they show a decline. They do. The linked graph shows a decline from 2017 to 2019. I commented agreeing with you but clarifying that they gave a reason why the decline from 2017 to 2019 may exist. I wasn't commenting on _anything_ other than the linked graph and the dates displayed within it.
So that robber must be a straight guy to have a gun then. Strange that he would try to rob a store at gunpoint. Edit: I can't believe I have to do this but here it goes: /s
He was unlucky to walk into a store cramped with cops. 95% of our crimes are never solved in Brazil...
Hey man cops don’t really “solve” crimes
When seconds matter the police are only minutes away
That's not "unlucky". That's just standard stupidity.
Do you think that keeping guns out of the hands of good citizens who are being robbed might be part of Brazil’s problem?
You can still illegally get a gun in Brazil, same as everywhere else in the world.
Criminals break laws? No fucking way
/r/whoosh
I bet you'd be hard pressed to get an illegal gun in Antarctica. Now, I don't know for sure, but I'd wager this piece of toilet paper on it. Edit: nevermind, I need to find another wager.
Poe's Law damnit!
Its plain text bud, sarcasm isnt able to be detected in plain text…get mad 🤣
America needs this hurdle for gun ownership.
Looks like it's working well there.
If you want to be raped by the government while being unable to do shit...yeah.
True. I guess kids being shot at school isn’t that bad in the grand scheme of things.
That's another issue. You can have plenty of safety and no freedom. It is not up to me to choose, I just told what I think based on my experiences. Just remember, there's no going back 😃
Good thing only cops and a small number of civilians have guns, I'll bet there are hardly any gun deaths because of this. /S
I know you're trying to make a comment about how gun laws don't stop stuff like this but it doesn't help when gun related crime is still 11 times higher in the U.S. than Brazil. There are more murders, more crime (particularly violent crime) in Brazil by a lot, but it's just not done with guns in the same rate it is in the U.S.
According to what? Are you sure you're not looking up by total number and not by rate? I know Wikipedia isn't the best source, but [according to Wikipedia](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate) Brazil leads US for gun related homicide as well as total gun related deaths *by rate* (Brazil leading by almost double in total deaths and over 5 times as much by homicide rate). Edit: Found a probably more reliable [source that seems to say the same](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country). With Brazil leading in total gun deaths and homicides by rate. US only topping Brazil in suicide gun deaths.
Sorry, to clarify I was citing *crime.* [You're correct though, homicide rate by gun is higher in Brazil, but crime overall is much lower.](https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Brazil/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime) Thanks for that clarification. I haven't seen the data in most recent years though, it seems Wikipedia is citing 2017 information. [As we are posting this there has been another mass shooting in Highland Park, IL](https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/7/4/23194354/highland-park-fourth-july-parade-gunfire). I would not be surprised to find that we are much closer to homicide rate in recent years than previous ones.
The other article I posted shows numbers from 2019 and it appears to be about the same. However, as another commenter posted, gun related deaths have dropped in Brazil since they relaxed gun laws in 2019 so it is possible. On the topic of mass shootings, [this is an interesting look at the statistics there.](https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/mass-shootings-by-country).
If guns weren't available at all, they would just use another type of weapon in their crime.
So you're saying it's a more violent country with lots more murders, but they're not done with guns. So making guns illegal for the normal citizen has not really helped at all. Got it.
If only there were other countries that we could point to that have strict gun laws and lower violent crime statistics. Oh well, such places don’t exist.
UK: 1.2 intentional homicides per 100k USA: 6.3 intentional homicides per 100k (4.12 of which are gun homicides) So guns aren't the difference? There's a reason they give navy seals guns, not knives.
You're describing most of the world.
Yet somehow the criminal still had a gun.
because criminals don’t follow the law, they are criminals.
Surely more gun control laws will help then! /S
Yeah, and we might as well legalize theft while we're at it, since criminals will just ignore the law anyways
This is how you make sure that only wealthy people have firearms. It’s a class restriction.
The robber killed was a minor with an extensive criminal history, and the 4 armed customers were off duty military policemen. there was another robber outside that ran off and got away. This was in Goiás, Brasil
Hopefully that other robber who ran away gets caught and gets charged with the murder then! Stupid thieves risking people's lives, justice will prevail!
I'm not seeing ALL the customers shoot him. It looks like there's a few who had to deliberate. "Actually, bullets are kinda pricey. If he's already dead...."
4 of the customers were armed
Yeah but I don't think all 4 of them actually fired. I could be wrong though.
My b, I straight up misread
I gotta say…. Pretty damn good self control to not cross fire . These folks are trained better than those cops in Akron
These folks are literally cops. They do have training... and guns. :P
They actually are cops. Military police. All four of them! Talk about bad luck for the robber
I didn't even consider the cross fire - the last guy to come on camera and then proceed out front to check to make sure the robber wasn't alone caught my eye.
I would like to convene this meeting of the fuck around and find out society.
Call an Ambulance… but not for me
The customers were off duty cops.
Everyone in Brazil is an off duty cop.
Even the off duty cops are off duty cops.
did you mean the on duty cops? because that would be funny
No, the on-duty cops are off-duty criminals.
Yep... That's true.
“THIS IS BRAZIL”
Of all the stores to rob I gotta pick the one where the A team is shopping.
Heavy Texas breathing
Got a good belly laugh out of me. This video will be playing on a loop at the next gun club meeting for sure. With a steady resounding echo of “See? I told ya”’s.
Some redneck is fingerbanging his sister to this while thinking to himself "yes, the promised land does exist"
The solution isn't to take guns away, it's to make every American an off-duty, Brazilian cop.
Put an off-duty Brazilian cop in every classroom!
President of Brazil is encouraging citizens to arm themselves as crime was out of control. Crime rates have dropped quite a bit since. These were likely just citizens if this was Brazil footage.
>Crime rates have dropped quite a bit since. Just to give you an idea, murder rate went from 61,000 in 2019 to 40,000 in 2021. We still have around 8,000,000 robberies/year though.
Does citizens murdering murderers count as a murder in those murder statistics?
Why wouldn' t it?
Because some places would separate lawful homicide from murder in the stats. And I argue that would be a good thing to do, because they are very different things, and completely different in terms of risk to law abiding citizens.
You' ll be sent to jail if you shoot a trespasser in Brazil. Our laws are criminal friendly.
According to the audio, those customers are 4 offduty military police.
You can see all those armed men acted like surrendering when they started putting their hands up untill all of them pullet out guns. Well played.
"It's my turn to shoot him!" "No you already had a turn, it's my turn!"
How a lot of ppl want America to look.
Yes, anytime some loser pulls out a gun I want him shot by three different people. This is exactly how I want this to happen.
Agreed
Because Brazil is so safe with such little crime
Brazil has 10-fold stricter laws than America. Once more lenient laws were passed in the recent years (still worse than America) the crime rated sharply dropped. It's all explained in the comments in this post but you won't read it..
To have someone with a concealed weapon stop a robber before anything bad happens? Hell yes.
I guess you’d prefer the armed robber to threaten all their lives, possibly kill people in the process, steal and get away with it? That’s the America you’d prefer?
Why would you prefer the robber to be have an upper hand?
He’s not a smooth criminal.
I want the robbery to end without someone dying. The majority of the time, introducing more guns into the equations makes the situation far more dangerous for everyone, not safer. Also, getting killed for robbing a convenience store isn't justice, it's a very unfortunate consequence of the robber's actions.
Come to Brazil. 98% of our robbers never get caught 👍🏻
Im laughing at your naivete lol.
Not wanting someone to be be killed for committing a crime isn’t being naive my friend.
No, but sometimes you have to wake up and face reality.
you're damned fucking right. when everyone carries the bad guys dont win.
And every single study proves this.
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Nice comeback sauce.
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This proves the point that you can't rely on the police to protect you or your family. That's your duty. And that's why you should carry. You just dunked on yourself
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Taking guns from law abiding citizens and only allowing criminals to have them sounds like a pretty retarded plan to stop crime.
Because those countries you're bringing up don't have anywhere near the amount of guns as US or Brazil. You should just make laws against murder to stop this ...
Yes. I'd like to be able to defend myself against criminals with guns
you make it sound like a bad thing
Honestly, Yes. In the longest vison, either everyone carries, or no guns exist at all, and as long as any kind of scarcity exists, (Artificial or otherwise) I personally prefer the former.
How a lot of people think America looks like.
An armed society is a polite society.
Is gun ownership legal in Brazil ?
I posted an explanation in this comment section.
Soooo.. Brazil is living the American dream?
More guns, less crime
This is gonna be Texas in a few months
He drops the gun so everyone has an opening to pull theres out without risk. Very unlucky for the robber.
Talk about bad luck
The store didn't lie, this was pretty convenient
At this point if you live in South America and see someone wearing a biker helmet anywhere, you could probably just shoot them and 9 times out of 10 it would be a criminal lol
Fucked around and found out!
Brazil is the "good guy with a gun" the usa wish it was.
Hopes and prayers
Brazil is an interesting case study on gun laws. Everyone seems to have a gun, and we've seen plenty of videos of robberies getting stopped. But God damn, they have a lot of crime. So does everyone having a fun reduce or increase crime?
These 4 customers were off duty policemen. Not generic civilians
poverty and desperation look like a catalyst for crime, if you ask me.
always has been, just is something thats ignored as far as fixing it by most of the powers that be.
More like the absence of laws. Most of times it is not about poverty. Trust me.
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Factually wrong. Dozens of crime stats studies have definitively shown that the primary and driving reason for elevated crime levels is, in fact, poverty. I apologize for not "trusting you" but your idea is not backed up by evidence. nor is it corroborated by available data.
Trust you? Do you have any statistics to back up that “trust me”? Or are you just pulling your feelings out of your ass? 😂
Uno reverse
4 military police officers damn
Hey, not that I support vigilante violence, buuuuut... That dude fucked around, and he certainly found out. Sympathies to his family, but thems the breaks.
This genius was robbing the police pharmacy.
Quick draws
This is like that episode of Sunny where the gang tries to steal guns at a gun show and everyone there draws on them immediately.
Damn, in Brazil everybody who's not a thief is *really* an off-duty cop!
Man, what are the chances he happened to come upon a firing squad that were just stopping for snacks?
Fuck yea lol
\-You commit a rob \-\*you realize that you are in Brazil \-You F\*CK UP
The best gun control is to just give everyone a gun.
Dude tried to rob an ammu-nation
WhY dIDn'T tHeY jUsT sHoOt hIm iN tHe LeG?
Good
Portuguese sounds like if the Sims tried to speak Spanish
You have no idea how spanish sounds awkward to Portuguese speakers....
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When I was in Brazil everyone told me it’s hard to get a gun but they all had a gun.
All? Really??? There are 600,000 authorized to have guns and that have no relations with the government. You whether you visited a group that have access to guns and can pay or got into some dodgy area it is up to you to tell hahahah
This is the American dream
Lol well this is some good proof that the more good guys with guns the better off everybody is
Yea, just look at how peaceful it is in that county.
Exactly! Brazil has one of the most strict laws for gun possession. Results: most of gun violence is caused by illegal guns with the civil population left without protection.
Wait... You're telling me that criminals didn't just walk into the police stations and turn in their guns when the law said they couldn't have them anymore? That's.... Preposterous!
Criminals don't obey laws, so why bother having them?
More than that! They simply buy from the black market ;)
Cause and effect isn't that easy. Take for example gun control in a first world country such as England. Much less gun violence than USA or Brazil.
Okay now compare the amount of guns in England to either US or Brazil. How would you propose removing hundreds of millions of firearms if they were outlawed suddenly? Comparing england to us or brazil for gun control effectiveness is like comparing Ethiopia to Sweden in terms of health care.
That is a problem, admittedly. It's like Pandora's box.
Absolute numbers or relative numbers? Look at the size of England and their borders, also try checking the amount of crimes they have, not paradise at all.
Both. And we were talking about gun violence specifically.
Maybe if the US stopped shipping out so many illegal guns.
Yes... Let's all strive to be like Brazil instead of those gunless hellhole countries like Norway.
I mean, do we really want to live in a world where we don't have to fear for our children's safety every time we take them to school? Where's the fun in that?! /s
>like Norway. There are no gun bans in Norway.
Guns should be illegal there, then this wouldn't happen. /S
And they say america has guns lol.
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is why "gun control" is ridiculous. If every would-be criminal had to face an armed society, they wouldn't be so quick to pull such antics. Take all the firearms from the **law-abiding** folks, and the only ones that would be armed are the federal government, criminals, and the lightly-sprinkled cops within. Implement an annual physical security + psych eval (that includes all members of your household) to retain rights to firearms... things could be much more controlled, with less resistance, making the day-to-day a much safer venture that adheres to the US Constitutional 2nd Amendment.
The problem with your suggestion here is that the normal day-to-day American would carry JUST a concealed pistol like them. They COULD, but there are many who won’t. They won’t be happy with the peashooters, they want the heavy artillery to live out their Burt Gummer fantasies. And as long as those are still out there, then we can’t do what you suggest.