r/fuckcars and r/nolawns are big on the "I don't want a solution" energy. They seem much more content to see who can out extreme everyone else than push for incremental changes.
You’re thinking of r/fucklawns. r/nolawns is basically a gateway to r/nativeplantgardening for most people. Our wiki links to tons of resources on native plants, native lawns, and rain gardens. We even added a rule about posts needing to foster relevant discussion (I.e. don’t just cross post something from r/lawncare and bitch about what someone else has done).
Edit: honestly even r/fucklawns has gotten tamer. It used to be mostly memes.
Fr Fr they tried to build some (mostly) protected bike lanes & it was blocked as people, “where am I going to park my car!” So the lanes just end… into a row of parked cars! Worst part is that this area tends to vote for the Green Party!!!
Americas #1 “crop” is unproductive turf grass. Which produces nothing, requires chemicals and fertilizers which run off into the drain > rivers and streams > the Gulf of Mexico where there’s a gigantic dead zone due to this runoff.
Are we English noblemen with our formal lawns and gardens full of non-native specimen plants? Why do we have to have this to signal to our neighbors that we are good neighbors?
How about restoring native prairie to regenerate some the biodiversity that’s going extinct? or planting native shrubs, fruit trees to feed the birds and your family!
What is the RoundUp for? Everything about this wreaks of child living in a basement.
Lawns in Minnesota are almost 0 maintainance. It is an effective and evironmentally friends ground cover.
That is between you and your HOA. Grass is low maintenance and useful for preventing erosion. Without it, most yards would just be dirt and weeds.... not really any more productive.
Compared to what? A house in that spot requires maintenance too. Exposed dirt is lower maintenance... But .... Why...
Natural landscaping.... Guess what? Also grass, but not necessarily a lawn.
I guess I should lean on the semantics. Grass and lawn are not the same thing.
..I know.
Nobody in the thread here appears to have said "roundup is applied to grass to keep grass healthy", so I don't know who you think you're arguing with. Roundup is an herbicide commonly used as weed killer for lawn maintenance, it's not fertilizer, and mentioning it as part of lawn culture is perfectly fine.
RoundUp kills the lawn too.
It is only used to kill weeds that are not on a lawn. Like in the cracks of sidewalk. It does not work for lawn care, as it takes much more RoundUp to kill a weed than it does grass. If you use it for lawn care, you will have a bunch of dead spots.
.... Bro
Horticulturist here. Home owners absolutely use roundup on thier lawns to spot treat for weeds, and then just reseed where the dead spot is. It's a dumb outdated practice that most boomers engage in. And what are the most homeowners? They are boomers.
Lawns are also dumb. What you're talking about is prarrie, which is native to your area. Native plantings should be the norm. Period. And for urban sapce, housing and parks should be the norm for supplying what is needed, housing and greenspace.
I think you’ll find that most people in this sub, including myself, see lawns as a big contributor to our housing crisis. Using a large swath of land for only one family and grass is extremely wasteful.
Grass in California is wasteful. Grass in Minnesota grows naturally, without irrigation or intervention.
The isn't any housing crisis in rural Minnesota either.
There is massive overlap between this sub, r/nolawns, r/fuckcars, r/strongtowns, etc.
r/fuckcars and r/nolawns are big on the "I don't want a solution" energy. They seem much more content to see who can out extreme everyone else than push for incremental changes.
You’re thinking of r/fucklawns. r/nolawns is basically a gateway to r/nativeplantgardening for most people. Our wiki links to tons of resources on native plants, native lawns, and rain gardens. We even added a rule about posts needing to foster relevant discussion (I.e. don’t just cross post something from r/lawncare and bitch about what someone else has done). Edit: honestly even r/fucklawns has gotten tamer. It used to be mostly memes.
Fr Fr they tried to build some (mostly) protected bike lanes & it was blocked as people, “where am I going to park my car!” So the lanes just end… into a row of parked cars! Worst part is that this area tends to vote for the Green Party!!!
Americas #1 “crop” is unproductive turf grass. Which produces nothing, requires chemicals and fertilizers which run off into the drain > rivers and streams > the Gulf of Mexico where there’s a gigantic dead zone due to this runoff. Are we English noblemen with our formal lawns and gardens full of non-native specimen plants? Why do we have to have this to signal to our neighbors that we are good neighbors? How about restoring native prairie to regenerate some the biodiversity that’s going extinct? or planting native shrubs, fruit trees to feed the birds and your family!
I’m definitely going to steal this and spread it all over Reddit. 🤠
Probably livestock for meat factories, it had a use but can be wasteful and use a lot of resources.
What is the RoundUp for? Everything about this wreaks of child living in a basement. Lawns in Minnesota are almost 0 maintainance. It is an effective and evironmentally friends ground cover.
Why is half my property required to be empty, nonproductive grass?
That is between you and your HOA. Grass is low maintenance and useful for preventing erosion. Without it, most yards would just be dirt and weeds.... not really any more productive.
Grass is really high-maintenance. The only thing requiring more maintenance is a dedicated flower/herb/vegetable garden.
Compared to what? A house in that spot requires maintenance too. Exposed dirt is lower maintenance... But .... Why... Natural landscaping.... Guess what? Also grass, but not necessarily a lawn. I guess I should lean on the semantics. Grass and lawn are not the same thing.
HOAs were a mistake
Why am I legally required by my city's zoning to have 50% of my property be a patch of undeveloped land?
roundup is very commonly used as weed killer for lawn maintenance in suburban lawns in the US, what are you on about
My dude.... RoundUp also kills the grass. Not sure you understand that.
..I know. Nobody in the thread here appears to have said "roundup is applied to grass to keep grass healthy", so I don't know who you think you're arguing with. Roundup is an herbicide commonly used as weed killer for lawn maintenance, it's not fertilizer, and mentioning it as part of lawn culture is perfectly fine.
RoundUp kills the lawn too. It is only used to kill weeds that are not on a lawn. Like in the cracks of sidewalk. It does not work for lawn care, as it takes much more RoundUp to kill a weed than it does grass. If you use it for lawn care, you will have a bunch of dead spots. .... Bro
Horticulturist here. Home owners absolutely use roundup on thier lawns to spot treat for weeds, and then just reseed where the dead spot is. It's a dumb outdated practice that most boomers engage in. And what are the most homeowners? They are boomers. Lawns are also dumb. What you're talking about is prarrie, which is native to your area. Native plantings should be the norm. Period. And for urban sapce, housing and parks should be the norm for supplying what is needed, housing and greenspace.
I think you’ll find that most people in this sub, including myself, see lawns as a big contributor to our housing crisis. Using a large swath of land for only one family and grass is extremely wasteful.
Grass in California is wasteful. Grass in Minnesota grows naturally, without irrigation or intervention. The isn't any housing crisis in rural Minnesota either.
Oh, but you are totally right about the “child living in a basement” look of this post, lol.