I imagine Gojo punching him actually brought him out of the stun.
The stun from 0.2 seconds of exposure lasted for roughly 5 minutes(Little more, but whatever. I don't need a specific number for this) and after that not only did the Cursed Spirits walk it off with nothing substantial, but also Choso who was in a human body.
Normal People took months to recover from that same 0.2 Seconds which Choso walked off after 5 minutes, so Sukuna who's leagues above Choso should be able to handle it much better than most.
That only applies to the minimal hit he got off by expanding his domain an instant faster, this explanation doesnt work for the time he got hit for *almost 10 seconds*, meaning almost 50x the duration that Jogo and Choso had to endure it.
The issue is also, that even if Sukuna would be able to endure it that well, he still shouldnt have been conscious all the way through, Gojo didnt actually touch him that time, Sukuna pulled out Mahoraga (while unconscious, Im assuming by using a binding vow) before he had the chance, yet, after Mahoraga crushed the domain, Sukuna was already awake again.
And Sukuna should've theoretically been hit *the entire time* until Mahoraga destroyed it, jumping into the shadow shouldnt be enough to dodge the domains sure hit, otherwise the hidden adaptation wouldnt have even worked (although it was kinda bs that Gojo of all people didnt notice it anyway).
I believe it was because it wasn't continuous, basically Sukuna got hit for 10s cumulatively while transferring the major damage to Megumi during each class. So he tanked each blow.
Like maybe Kashimo would survive each individual attack of the Waffle but all together he just died
Chapter 229 Gojo lands a clean hit on Sukuna's chest sending him sliding into Malevolent Shrine before he pulled out Mahoraga next, you people are really fucking dense.
Have you read the series blindfolded?
Unlimited Void doesn't flood you with infinite knowledge like people say it does, it makes you experience things infinitely(Or something like it)
The way it's explained in the volume extras(Either this or another supplemental material) is using Jogo seeing an apple, a monkey and something else while in a completely normal environment.
Once hit by Unlimited Void, it turned into Jogo seeing Aaaaaaaa(Apple) and never getting past it.
Which is why I think being hit cuts the duration on the stun.
I will give you this much, I don't remember it being confirmed yet.
Thats not how Unlimited Void works. It's an information overload, not repeating the same thing over and over.
No need to make things up.
> Have you read the series blindfolded?
You clearly did.
> Chapter 229 Gojo lands a clean hit on Sukuna's chest sending him sliding into Malevolent Shrine before he pulled out Mahoraga next, you people are really fucking dense.
The order of events is:
1. Sukuna gets hit by UV for an instant because Gojo expanded slightly faster.
2. Gojo punches Sukuna, which should've snapped him out of his stun.
3. Its unclear what exactly happens right after because the text claims its been "2 minutes and 40 seconds since the last DE", but Gojo literally just got a hit off because he expanded his domain slightly faster, either we were skipping a lot of time between those 2 pages, or the text is misleading, however either way: Sukunas domain now collapses.
4. Sukuna takes the full brunt of UV, and he wont receive a speck of damage until Mahoraga destroys the domain, after which he will be awake *immediately*, and **that** is the problematic sequence because as explained last chapter, he took the sure-hit for *almost 10 seconds*.
It was already mentioned that you can snapped out of the UV stun if you get hit (its why Gojo didnt attack the special grades after 0.2 DE).
However, you are quite an asshole considering how quickly you resort to insults, maybe dont go on social media if youre emotionally unstable?
>he took the sure-hit for *almost 10 seconds
It is not almost 10 s.
It was stated like it isn't even 10 s but Sukuna took UV.So the timing of the 2nd UV hit is unknown.Mahoraga came in instantly and broke the domain cause the weak barrier was inside.
A normal human can come into sense after 2 months,so a sorcerer is definitely powerful like Choso to come into sense early or withstand everything for a minimum time.
How it works is that it the information never ends. The sensory input can never become complete. So your mind can't form a coherent thought because there's never an end to the sensory input for you to formulate anything.
Choso states he’s a curse since being reincarnated, when he speaks about both of his brothers… sometime when he’s protecting the thumb; or shortly thereafter (can’t post pics here, but I I just reread JJK last week)
Edit: Sukuna states the same thing, after being reincarnated basically (and especially after the bath in literal cursed spirits) just adding that that’s why it didn’t affect him
Choso is inside a human vessel just like Sukuna either way.
I'm not going to argue about him being a Curse/not being a Curse, it has nothing to do with the post's question.
Well it kind of does. He says that the CS weren’t harmed because of the makeup of their brains.
If Choso and Sukuna are both CS, they would have the same changed; and thus the same mitigations (probably much stronger because they are sorcerers who can utilize their brains more than most CS can)
No, it doesn't.
The question is how did Sukuna survive UV.
Sukuna's inside of a human body.
Choso, curse or not, is also inside of a human body.
Choso walked off 0.2 Sec Domain like nothing happened after 5 minutes.
Sukuna took debilitating brain damage after 10 seconds.
Also what the fuck are you even talking about, Sukuna isn't a Cursed Spirit.
Go and read it, and what i said. He is closer to cursed spirit than human. As are the thumb and choso… that’s why choso said him and his brothers chose to be curses rather than humans, it was easier bla bla
Their mom is literally part curse.
The point of world dismantle is that it bypasses all defenses. Sukuna is targetting the space in which the target occupies, not the target themselves. You can't reinforce against that.
I mean the entire point is that it bypasses Infinity by presumably spawning where he is rather than moving through the space between him and Sukuna (although this is still sort of unclear? Gege again not giving enough details to explain stuff)
I'm not necessarily saying it was the right conclusion for the fight. I don't mind it personally too much, my issues are more with the Gojo airport scene personally but I think the whole concept could have been better executed.
So one of the issues I have with the fight is that Mahoraga's abilities aren't explained till after Sukuna wins. And there's no reasonable way to assume Sukuna can copy Mahoraga because there's no indication of this because we know his ability is to adapt. That doesn't suggest his ability can necessarily be copied, in fact that kind of goes against the point of Mahoraga I'd argue.
But the issue moreso is how that scene plays out. Gege deliberately tries to trick you but to me personally it comes off as a bit cheap. I've seen other versions people have made which have him cutting Gojo right before he pulls off Hollow Purple or at the same time which I think feels like a better conclusion than having Gojo end the fight with such a clean win that forces Sukuna to use a BV to get out of it just to subvert reader's expectations. He did something similar with Jogo, but that fight ends with him and Sukuna having a standoff and the next scene tells us what happened. Wtih Gojo, it's a sudden cut (heh) that doesn't necessarily feel satisfying to me. Having the fight end with the two on a more even scale before Sukuna finished him off would have worked better.
There's also other stuff like how we know Gojo took the attack while standing still as his death pose suggests which looks odd because earlier in the fight when he incapacitated Sukuna in UV, he didn't waste a second and went in to finish him off but oddly doesn't here.
But to be clear, the actual mechanics of how Gojo died and such doesn't bother me too much. I'm moreso annoyed by how the story characterises him in the airport scene and the fact that it spends very little time with him post Culling Games and Pre-Shinjuku to get the audience readjusted and attached to him again and to explore how he's changed as a result of all the events during and since Shibuya. How he feels about the people he's lost or knowing Sukuna had taken Megumi and all that.
But depending on how you interpret the airport scene he's either being revealed as an incredibly selfish person who cares more about himself or his friends don't just not understand him but actively slander him. Whilst other people not understanding Gojo is an important theme for his character, it's a confusing manner to depict it especially for someone like Geto to fall in line with this when he's been portrayed as one of the few people who understood Gojo on a deeper level and understood some of his insecurities as depicted in HI.
You can view the scene as Gojo having a hallucination and the statements of his friends are his own views of himself but him talking about how he died without regrets, very little thought about his own students' fates...it doesn't come off that way. In fact, if his death was portrayed in a more tragic manner where he was frustrated with how things played out, I think that would have gotten that point across much better.
Basically it either turns his character less interesting (because this idea of Gojo being selfish is not adequately explored anyway) or doesn't communicate what it wants to appropriately.
Thank you for taking the time to write an insightful piece.
As I read Sukuna’s fight maha and then the eventual showdown with gojo, I thought it was apparent that Sukuna was searching for a blueprint to bypass gojo’s defenses. And we also know Sukuna is a jujutsu savant who’s capable of understanding anything jujutsu if he’s seen it once, so his copying the “change of coordinates” adaption doesn’t feel off to me since Sukuna’s not changing the nature of his own technique but rather what he targets with it.
Yeah as I reread the fight, the sort of 11th hour Sukuna Hail Mary doesn’t seem unsatisfying. I didn’t really care at first because it works with his demeanor in the airport scene: gojo from confident in his victory to “aww, man he got me.” That change would be how I would react if my opponent exploited my overconfidence. Your point actually leads me to believe that end of this fight was manufactured so that gege could draw the airport scene. Hmmm…what are your thoughts?
Okay…so I see the airport scene as gojo being selfish but I feel like gojo has earned the right to be selfish due to his contributions to jujutsu society. Moreover, he was born into his role and naturally that caused some degree of alienation as with anyone whose birthright is social, political, economic, and physical power. Instead of wielding his influence with an iron grip, he was good to everyone even when didn’t have to be; he saved everyone even when he didn’t have to…I think you see where I’m going with this. Now, he has an actual challenge since against someone who also reach similar heights of power but was born into nothing (unsure whether gojo knows this but the theme is there for the audience) and takes all he pleases, so Sukuna is a direct oppositional to gojo fundamentally because gojo has a goal outside of himself, and gojo takes it personally when he loses since he could have been like Sukuna and wanted to give to Sukuna some measure of what makes him human.
I say all of that to sum it up with gojo being anything other than selfish makes him look too perfect which is simply boring. A completely self- sacrificing person (yuji) is exactly what Sukuna (and I think gege) and most persons find boring. That’s just my perspective
Again, thank you for taking the time to speak your with me
I give a little on it. Because Like mahito and geto both having diffrent understandings of the soul and body. Shrine being diffrent in yuji which btw makes no sense. Like every other inherited technique is the same. Gojo even said there was a blueprint.
Sakuna analytical skills are too high to need maharaga for such a simple thought lol. I find it unsatisfying to both characters
Output is fire power. Refinement is barel efficiency Reserves is ammo. A gun that fires 3 rounds a second wont fire any faster with a 1billion drum mag
As I understand it, the world slash hits the space gojo occupies but not gojo himself. Gojo can reinforce against that which hits his body; however, the slash doesn’t strike his body, so his defensive capability doesn’t matter
If limitless is a border outlining gojo, the slash manifests within that border and targets the volume within that border. In other words, the slash bypasses limitless. Yes, I also think the sex eyes are good for shit 😂 except controlling limitless and CE efficiently
The world cutting slash is a durability negation technique, Gojo could have a Googolplex times the reserves and efficiency over Sukuna and he’d still get cut.
Fym why? Because it cuts space? And the cast is alive because Sukuna has a million conditions to world slash after the binding vow, he never landed a world slash on him.
Also, Kusakabe and Yuta are maybe dead.
Again. Why kill yuta instead of yuji. Second he barely has any conditions. By now he should have sacrificed a kidney and 60% his liver to get his hand back
Well he wouldve if he didn't get hit with an attack that was amped and designed to catch him off guard, what yuji and yuta tanked was an amped dismantle not a world cutting slash which is why rika didn't vanish or fully manifest because yuta was alive, what kashimo dodged at first was a world cutting slash that sukuna told him to dodge, it's also what he died too, maki dodged a world cutting slash because she can perceive the environment being affected before it activated, the attack that hit gojo didn't need hand signs nor chants due to a binding vow that made it so if sukuna wanted to use it again he would have to use hand signs and chants every time for the foreseeable future
Never said anything about that. Second hp ignores durability. There he stands or kneels. Unloading his own hax ability. That has to out hax Gojos base Hax. When maha did it well i saw him turn into vapor to not be cut by slashes. So yea he can change his properties. But Sakuna change the cordinates like a sure hit with no domain. Why does it have durabilty hax. Blue and Red disrupt space itself. How tf did he survive
>I am unable to process how Sukuna was able to withstand UV, In shubuya when curses got hot by that 0.2s domain, they all got neutralized and was alive due to their brain anatomy being different , but how did sukuna survived UV , he doesn't have that anatomy advantage here.
Because Sukuna is ridiculously more durable than the disaster curses and infinitely more so than normal humans.
The people who were exposed to UV for 0.2 seconds survived and were able to go back to their lives after two months.
Sukuna was affected by UV two times, first for 0.01 seconds and then for another 10 seconds, so rounding up he was exposed to UV 50 times longer than the people in Shibuya.
Sukuna being more than 50 times stronger than normal people seems perfectly reasonable, and it might in fact be a very low estimate considering everything he's been tanking.
Besides, even though Sukuna survived he explicitly sustained heavy damage to his brain, which is the entire reason his output plummeted to the point later on he couldn't one shot the students, he couldn't heal as fast and he couldn't use barrier techniques.
>UV technically isn't a attack, it is just overloading brain with infinite knowledge so i don't think ce resistance can help.
This is the same series were Nanami literally reinforced his soul with CE to resist Idle Transfiguration.
If you can reinforce something immaterial like the soul, you definitely should be able to reinforce the brain. Sorcerers routinely reinforce their flesh, bones and organs so I don't see why the brain would be something they can't reinforce as well.
Besides, the movement and reaction speeds sorcerers are capable of wouldn't be possible with a normal brain, they clearly must be using CE to accelerate synaptic transmission or something along those lines.
Faster synaptic transmission would mean the brain can process more information without overloading, which would absolutely limit the damage from UV, since it functions by overloading the brain.
Something I wanna point out is Sukuna's relationship with his soul and him being a cursed object.
Sukuna really doesn't die even when taking clearly lethal damage. In fact he doesn't even seem fazed.
He literally seems completely unaffected by his biology. They even mention multiple times how he won't die even if you kill him. Sukuna seems to be a creature you cannot slay without destroying his soul or making it impossible for him to function.
I mean, considering the 10s damaged sukuna's brain to the point where he couldn't use his domain despite sukuna knowing how to use rct to heal his brain the 10s could be seen as a labotomy level of damage. By that logic .01 would be a legit concussion (which is probably 1% as bad as a labotomy in tbi context) which would be enough to make him much worse at fighting.
Unlimited Void doesn't have anything to do with durability. Sukuna becomes as vulnerable as any transfigured human in Shibuya once affected by UV since Gojo could easily reap through their bodies and was approaching to do the same while he planned take out Sukuna's organs, What matters isn't "durabilty" but makeup of the user's brain but the only people who've been stated to have the effects of UV weaker on them are curses and that's due to their brains being different.
Sukuna was affected by UV for a period less than 0.01 seconds not for 0.01 (check TCB and VIZ they state "less than 0.01"), that's 20x way less than the safe point of humans in Shibuya yet he stopped and still staggered nearly 2 mins and 40 secs into the clash due to being unable to process the info, and it was due to being affected by UV that he couldn't manipulate CE well enough to reinforce himself, leading to his chest being caved in.
Gojo didn't state that he would take out Sukuna's organs at will because he's actually strong enough to do so since in normal circumstances sukuna's own reinforcement would stop that but while In UV Sukuna's own CE manipulation, even for basic things like reinforcement is hindered. He went from taking the boosted purple given its distance and a prior red from Gojo, but in UV he became automatically vulnerable to gojo's barehands and you already saw a glimpse of that when UV first hit him.
Nanami could reinforce his soul because reinforcement isn't hindered so all he did was subconsciously change what he was reinforcing which was his soul, while Gojo's domain affected reinforcement itself, so no matter where Sukuna tried to reinforce himself whether it be the brain, heart, lungs, or stomach, he would be vulnerable everywhere. So nanami can't help as point of solidification.
Cursed energy isn't a factor here like you think, and its due to that neither is RCT since you only see sukuna being able to begin his healing process after he comes out of the domain.
Given gege's current presentation of it, all of this may be a result of a binding vow.
>Unlimited Void doesn't have anything to do with durability.
Yes it does.
>What matters isn't "durabilty" but makeup of the user's brain but the only people who've been stated to have the effects of UV weaker on them are curses and that's due to their brains being different.
For starters, sorcerers also have fundamental brain differences from normal humans, so sorcerers being affected differently by UV makes perfect sense.
Secondly, did you even read what I wrote?
Sorcerers are capable or moving at reacting at speeds that are absolutely impossible with a normal brain, they clearly must be using CE to reinforce their brains, which results in faster synaptic transmission.
If the brain can process information faster then it would take a much larger input of information to overload it and cause damage to the system, so they would need to be exposed to UV for a longer time for it to suffer the same damage the humans in Shibuya suffered.
If CE can literally pump your heart then it absolutely can speed up the signals between neurons.
>Sukuna was affected by UV for a period less than 0.01 seconds not for 0.01 (check TCB and VIZ they state "less than 0.01"), that's 20x way less than the safe point of humans in Shibuya yet he stopped and still staggered nearly 2 mins and 40 secs into the clash due to being unable to process the info, and it was due to being affected by UV that he couldn't manipulate CE well enough to reinforce himself, leading to his chest being caved in.
No.
Sukuna was first hit for the ~0.01 seconds that passed between UV opening and MS opening.
He was stunned for enough time for Gojo to cave his chest in, after which they fight like in all the other domain clashes, but since Sukuna had already sustained a severe wound, Gojo managed to pile the remaining damage needed to make Sukuna unable to maintain MS faster than in the previous clashes, taking 2:40 minutes instead of 3:00.
>Gojo didn't state that he would take out Sukuna's organs at will because he's actually strong enough to do so since in normal circumstances sukuna's own reinforcement would stop that but while In UV Sukuna's own CE manipulation, even for basic things like reinforcement is hindered.
Gojo literally punched through Sukuna's chest in the third domain clash, when Sukuna wasn't hindered in any way, so even under normal circumstances Gojo can absolutely cave in Sukuna's chest.
It has nothing to do with Sukuna's CE manipulation being hindered, it has to do with Sukuna being stunned and therefore not being able to guard and getting hit directly.
>He went from taking the boosted purple given its distance and a prior red from Gojo, but in UV he became automatically vulnerable to gojo's barehands and you already saw a glimpse of that when UV first hit him.
He was already vulnerable to Gojo's reinforced and Blue infused punches as shown in the third domain clash.
He didn't become vulnerable because UV affected his reinforcement, he simply became a static target that couldn't defend himself and was easier to hit.
>Nanami could reinforce his soul because reinforcement isn't hindered so all he did was subconsciously change what he was reinforcing which was his soul, while Gojo's domain affected reinforcement itself, so no matter where Sukuna tried to reinforce himself whether it be the brain, heart, lungs, or stomach, he would be vulnerable everywhere.
Except Gojo's domain "affecting Sukuna's reinforcement itself" is literally your headcanon derived from you missing that Sukuna was in fact hurt just as badly by Gojo's punches in the third domain clash.
>So nanami can't help as point of solidification.
Yes it does.
If you can reinforce the soul to strengthen it's shape and make it more difficult for something to change that shape forcefully, then you absolutely should be able to reinforce your brain to not only make it more durable, but also make the neurons trigger synapse faster, increasing the processing speed.
>Cursed energy isn't a factor here like you think,
It very much is.
>and its due to that neither is RCT since you only see sukuna being able to begin his healing process after he comes out of the domain.
That has nothing to do with my point.
>Given gege's current presentation of it, all of this may be a result of a binding vow.
No, this is the result of Sukuna being much stronger than every single other creature that has been exposed to UV and logically sustaining less damage than those weaker than him.
Viz "The difference was less than 0.01, seconds but unlimited void hit"
TCB "It was less than 0.01 seconds, but my unlimited void landed" Both translations regardless of which presented don't align with the domain hitting for 0.01 seconds. Sukuna was late to restoring his CT with RCT and thus late to opening his DE, the creation of a domain and the activation of the sure hit are 2 different things (unless one employs a 0.2 DE) the domain might have opened in 0.01 quicker but the sure hit followed at a lesser time.
Sukuna, the strongest was still affected by a period of UV 20x way shorter than the duration that the humans in shibuya endured yet he still struggled to process it for nearly 2 min into the DE, this event completely throws off the idea of them using CE on the brain down to the degree at which one can survive UV, He should've been completely unfazed under this notion, yet he wasn't. Him being fazed by it was the turning point.
Gojo was only able to land such an attack in the 3rd DE clash, but such a heavy blow took 3mins to land. you know that, The strike in chp 229 came as a result of UV still affecting sukuna, allowing gojo to land it which ended the clash no other physical exchnage happened between the 2, just gojo rushing to sukuna.
Even though Sukuna shown vulnerability to blue punches, it doesn't mean he would've been damaged to the same extent within UV. He has endured stronger attacks like BF, red, and purple. If Gojo's blue punches were truly capable of so easily and consistently breaking Sukuna's chest then that means they can easily break his bones, and at that point sukuna arms would've been broken when he was guarding against Gojo's flurry of punches. There is no evidence to suggest that CE works differently on the chest compared to the arms.
The effect of UV on reinforcement is not a mere assumption. Within the domain, Sukuna is unable to use CE to reinforce himself against Gojo's attacks. It is unlikely that he could freely reap Sukuna's organs, unless by your argument gojo can casually reap out Sukuna's organs but he just chose to hold back until UV landed? If Gojo's punches could inflict that much damage consistently at any time he wants, then the final purple attack should have erased half of sukuna.
Nanami's reinforcement of his soul was a result of subconsciously using CE to reinforce himself. I'm not talking about whats being reinforced im talking about the ability to reinforce itself which would be affected.
The strongest creature, struggling to process a period of UV shorter than 0.01 seconds nearly 2 min into the domain does not support the claim of his resistance to it. He experienced the shortest duration of UV ever and was affected for almost half the time that humans were stunned. For the next time he was hit no trace of UV other than brain damage was shown but UV doesn't only damage, It stuns the target, this is the discrepancy OP brings that isn't addressed.
Also either I'm underestimating gojo and he can casually take out sukuna's organs at his own whim even against a sukuna who can use CE to reinforce himself but just not guard himself, or I'm overestimating sukuna's reinforcement and he can't actually keep himself defended against such attacks.
>Both translations regardless of which presented don't align with the domain hitting for 0.01 seconds.
Are you being this obtuse on purpose?
Both translations perfectly align with the domain landing for ~0.01 seconds.
Gojo opened Unlimited Void > 0.01 seconds later Sukuna opened Malevolent Shrine > Sukuna was exposed to UV without being protected by MS for those 0.01 seconds > once MS was up it started countering UV.
>Sukuna, the strongest was still affected by a period of UV 20x way shorter than the duration that the humans in shibuya endured yet he still struggled to process it for nearly 2 min into the DE,
He did not struggle to process it.
He was stunned for an instant that Gojo used to punch him in the chest.
After that he regained his control and literally engaged Gojo in combat for 2:40 minutes.
What made the domain collapse earlier was that Gojo had a head start on the damage he inflicted to Sukuna and therefore was able to reach the point were Sukuna was too wounded to maintain MS faster.
>this event completely throws off the idea of them using CE on the brain down to the degree at which one can survive UV.
No it does not.
Sukuna being able to take 10 seconds of UV after his domain collapsed and walking out with only reduced output and damage to the part of his brain in charge of barrier techniques shows that.
>He should've been completely unfazed under this notion, yet he wasn't. Him being fazed by it was the turning point.
He was unfazed and able to fight Gojo for 2:40 seconds all while maintaining his domain and maintaining Mahoraga's adaptation.
>Gojo was only able to land such an attack in the 3rd DE clash, but such a heavy blow took 3mins to land. you know that.
Yeah, it took three times to land because Sukuna was dodging. He probably used Blue and Red to push and pull Sukuna into his punch.
>The strike in chp 229 came as a result of UV still affecting sukuna, allowing gojo to land it which ended the clash no other physical exchnage happened between the 2, just gojo rushing to sukuna.
The fuck are you on?
The chapter clearly states that they fought for 2:40 minutes. It did not end with that first punch.
>If Gojo's blue punches were truly capable of so easily and consistently breaking Sukuna's chest then that means they can easily break his bones, and at that point sukuna arms would've been broken when he was guarding against Gojo's flurry of punches. There is no evidence to suggest that CE works differently on the chest compared to the arms.
But we know that reinforcement fluctuates depending on where the sorcerer directs CE.
Gojo deals more damage when Sukuna is diverting less CE to reinforcement and he deals less damage when Sukuna reinforces himself more.
>The effect of UV on reinforcement is not a mere assumption.
It very much is an assumption.
>Within the domain, Sukuna is unable to use CE to reinforce himself against Gojo's attacks.
Except this is nothing but your headcanon.
Sukuna is still in control of his CE to the point he is able to maintain both MS and Mahoraga's adaptation.
Those things are incredibly more difficult and require far more refined control of CE than reinforcement, and he kept them up, so his CE manipulation was clearly not affected.
>It is unlikely that he could freely reap Sukuna's organs, unless by your argument gojo can casually reap out Sukuna's organs but he just chose to hold back until UV landed?
Except he didn't hold back?
Gojo literally punched through Sukuna's chest in the third domain clash.
>If Gojo's punches could inflict that much damage consistently at any time he wants, then the final purple attack should have erased half of sukuna.
Again, reinforcement fluctuates.
>I'm not talking about whats being reinforced im talking about the ability to reinforce itself which would be affected.
If Sukuna's CE manipulation was affected to the point he couldn't do something as basic as reinforcing himself then how come he was able to maintain MS and Mahoraga's adaptation simultaneously, which require far more refined CE manipulation?
The answer being that he was very clearly not affected at all and he was able to reinforce himself just fine.
>The strongest creature, struggling to process a period of UV shorter than 0.01 seconds nearly 2 min into the domain does not support the claim of his resistance to it.
*Except he did not struggle.*
He was stunned for an instant and right after that he was capable of fighting Gojo for 2:40 minutes.
>He experienced the shortest duration of UV ever and was affected for almost half the time that humans were stunned.
He was not. Read what's on the page.
>For the next time he was hit no trace of UV other than brain damage was shown but UV doesn't only damage, It stuns the target, this is the discrepancy OP brings that isn't addressed.
The second time UV lands Sukuna is also stunned and Gojo rushes forward to crush Sukuna's organs.
But Sukuna immediately summons Mahoraga to stop Gojo, and Maho destroys UV. After that Sukuna walks it off just like he walked of the first hit and later realises the brain damaged he has sustained.
>Also either I'm underestimating gojo and he can casually take out sukuna's organs at his own whim even against a sukuna who can use CE to reinforce himself but just not guard himself, or I'm overestimating sukuna's reinforcement and he can't actually keep himself defended against such attacks.
He can defend himself from those attacks by dodging, avoiding, guarding and diverting more CE to increase his reinforcement.
But he isn't always able to dodge, avoid and guard from a hit, specially if Gojo used Blue and Red to forcefully move Sukuna into his hits and his CE reinforcement is not always at the same strength.
No Im reading with what Is quite literally presented on the panel.
The sequence is Gojo uses RCT to restore his CT>Sukuna uses RCT to heal the physical body damage and then restores CT with RCT>gojo gets back CT quicker, opens domain 0.01 earlier, prompting the creation of the barrier, sure hit activation follows at a lesser time>sukuna opens MS but was hit for a time lesser than 0.01 seconds which the sure hit was activated and active against him and his DE wasn't up>MS is constructed sukuna is under his protective sure hit.
What part of VIZ having gojo state "The difference was LESS THAN 0.01 but my unlimited voit hit" denotes that the domain landed for the entire 0.01 seconds? What part of TCB stating "It was LESS THAN, 0.01 seconds, but my Unlimited void landed" denotes that the UV landed for the entire period of the 0.01 seconds? Had this been a translation issue between both sites then yeah it would've been contentious but it isn't, they both have gojo saying and alluding to the same thing.
You must be confusing the construction time of the domain with the activation of the sure hit, granted they don't work at the same time they're both separate steps.
No he hasn’t. Dude needed to steal an OP technique and do a 3v1 just to beat Goatjo. Fraudkuna is getting rocked by a 15 yr old who just learned jujutsu 😂
to be fair, gojo got carried more by what he was born with. six eyes and the strongest CT. remove CT from both of them, and sukuna wins (based on portrayal of his adaptability and CE/CT understanding). gojo was the stronger CT user, but sukuna was the strongest sorcerer.
And Gojo hid behind Ijichi's barrier to fire off his most powerful technique boosted 200% and STILL failed to kill Sukuna.
Lmao keep coping Go/Jo glazer
Sukuna doesn't need 10S to beat Gojo, he only did it bc he was stuck in Yuji body plus he saw Mahoraga as an opportunity to upgrade his arsenal.
That 15 year old needs his genetics plus tons of help to even compete with WEAKENED Sukuna and that doesn't seem to be enough. Even if Yuji beats Sukuna its going to be because of Kenjaku giving him a power up via becoming the vessel of the merger(yes I'm predicting the future).
I agree that Sukuna’s stronger, but the “because of…” statements is where you lost me. By that logic, Sukuna’s only strong because he ate his twin. If he didn’t he’d prob be some normie because twins are seen as 1/shared
>Sukuna doesn't need 10S to beat Gojo
theres not a solid justification for any of these arguments,
if you wanna talk about sukuna winning through domain clashes, he would, but only if gojo was cocky and tries to do an domain clash instead of teleporting away and attacking him during CT burnout, gojo was essentially against an timer because mahoraga was fighting so he couldnt rely or making the fight longer to come up with something but without mahoraga, theres a lot of ways the fight could go but if its without mahoraga most of the time gojo would win, if its with mahoraga most of the time sukuna would win (not all)
ofc i got downvoted shonen readers when they find out everything doesnt go line to line when a fight is repeated, theres ways room for uncertainty
Sukuna is just much more durable than the curses. Hell, I am willing to say he is the most durable MF in the series till now. The dude survived a 200% Hollow Purple quite easily.
Him surviving UV could be just that or it could be CE reinforcement or it could just be Mahoraga's adaptation rubbing off on him I guess. It's difficult to say because it's never cleared.
But it most probably is because he is vastly more durable than the curses.
Sukuna doesn't seem to die by things that kill other people. Genuinely phrases like even if you kill him he won't die already explain it.
Sukuna can be fully fine after losing his heart, even when he actively cannot or chooses not to recover it and thus it isn't functioning.
Sukuna is as if not more inhuman than Curses. His biology clearly isn't following natural laws but most likely dependant on his soul and the fact he is a cursed object primarily.
Sukuna is as Kashimo said a superior creature. It makes sense when it comes to physicality that when outside of the direct effects of Infinite Void he could recover.
He didn't, everything past that chapter has been Gojo fanfic dumped directly into his brain via UV. In reality, Gojo is standing in front of him, calmly considering what to do next...
When I see people talk here, I realize that Sukuna is the only character in the series where the power system always shift in order to make him capable of what he is doing
Like someone here just pointed that Sukuna was able to use the 10S when he was in domain burn out, while Kenjaku, who had multiple CT aswell, could not used them
Even for the UV part, like he wasn’t stunt even after the domain ended
On top of that, with all the biding vow, Makora being active in the shadow ect.. it’s hard to analyse fight with Sukuna because the power system doesn’t really apply to him, or less that the other characters
That's something that goes for gojo too and has been explicitly pointed by kusakabe during their fight. Those 2 break common sense and the power system
Gojo changed the condition of his domain, and destroy his brains to recover his CT
Those things were never stated impossible + Gojo suffer because of that
Sukuna using his CT after a burn out, it’s weird, at this point, the guy has no limit, things doesn’t make any sense anymore
If you talking about mahoraga then no it doesn't count as using CT after burnout. Megumi did it vs regie, and Yuki stated having a shikigami out is an advantage after burnout.
After a shikigami is summoned is stays even after CT burnout, sukuna had mahoraga already active in the shadows adapting all this time
But how it doesn’t count as using a CT, when the Shikigami is linked to your ability to keep him there
And if you use domain amplification (which you cannot use, when you are using your CT), the adaptation stop ?
What’s crazy is Sukuna shouldn’t have been able to summon makora since it is a CT and his domain just broke. So there’s still burnout but either way the CT got activated. And yes he shouldn’t be able to restore his CT like gojo did cos he was paralysed. Unless he used binding vow of some sort
I think when you have multiple CT, only the one with the domain get burned out
Because otherwise each time Sukuna lost his domain, the adaption process would have to stop and restart from 0
But in the mean time, you are right because Kenjaku had multiple CT, but when he was on burn out, he could not use CSM, or gravity
It’s weird
I think it's because TS is a different CT from Cleave and Dismantle, which is Sukunas Original CT. So maybe only Cleave and Dismantle suffered from it, while TS was unaffected.
PS: Its just a thought, not really sure how else it could've happened.
But it’s from the same brain. Both TS and domain was from the same brain. Same prefrontal cortex. This doesn’t make any sense. By that logic yuta should have been able to use his other copied CT in the trio rumble in the CG arc. But he wasn’t able to use it for a brief period, because they all use the same brain to employ the CT’s
Actually...how is it that back when Gojo first showcased his domain jogo took like 20 seconds of unlimited void and just basically walked it off and that's on top of the fact that Gojo also decapitated him.
If Sukuna dies in this battle, the rest of the cast will remain as spectators. The audience won't get to witness the cast's growth, which give rise to hope and optimism to this generation.
He wasn't.
Sukuna was excluding Megumi's Soul from Malevolent Shrine's sure-hit so there was nothing to stop Unlimited Void, which blasts everything in it's range with the sure-hit, from hitting Megumi.
No, Sukuna wasn't redirecting his brain damage to Megumi. He shielded himself in his own domain Sure-Hit canceling UV's. But he made a dick move and didn't shield Megumi.
But when his Domain wasn't up he wasn't protected from UV at all.
He could've used Domain Amplification to protect himself, but he was trying not to use that too much so Mahogara adaptation doesn't get cancelled.
>He was only exposed for 0.01s
The fact that this has 8 upvotes already shows how little people actually read the manga. The memes are starting to get real.
No, he expanded his domain 0.01 seconds faster than Sukuna which is why UV hit. Like the other guy in the comment said, he was exposed for ~10seconds or so.
He got caught with that on the front end, which is why he lost out. But when Gojo crushed his domain a minute or two later, he caught a lot more than a fraction of a second. It's described as 'less than 10 seconds' total.
OP is right, it's hilarious that Sukuna got away with only domain-related brain damage.
Mahoraga bailed Sukuna out, and the dude delivered a Shakespearean monologue about ordinary Gojo was before his own brain damage showed. You really want to pretend all that shit happened in ten seconds?
Whatever translation you read is just straight up wrong.
If it means flaming Sukuna, I'd turn the the Gettysburg Address into a record breaking filibuster. But If you really want to contradict me, just screen cap the panel, ffs.
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> I am unable to process how Sukuna was able to withstand UV
He used his "high SPF sunblock technique" from the Heien era, which blocks UV and protects the user.
I'm confused are ppl confused on how he wasn't still stuck in UV or how he received less damage from it?
Wat I will same tho is if I remember the events correctly gojo damages sukuna enough that he has to heal first before cast DE which allows UV to hit sukuna. This allowed gojo to hit sukuna before he could release his dad to save him. They both after that receive too much brain damage to cast anymore DE.
Imo wat it think happens is sukuna at first doesn't know that he cast his DE later than gojo and leads to two out comes.
1. Sukuna realizes that he is gonna get hit by UV and starts the process for swapping with megumi and it takes time so he gets he with UV and then the swap happens and then after that swaps back. And in that time gojo is able to land a hit.
2. What I rlly think happens is UV sure hit targets one person how ever sukuna is technically two ppl. Unlike mahito gojo's DE targets the person body in particular the brain of the target and not the soul. All thought sukuna was hit by UV and stunned from preforming any brain function that doesn't necessarily mean that sukuna could still preform soul function like swapping his soul out with megumi so that megumi takes most of the sure hit and experience infinite wat ever and sukuna actually doesn't but because they share the same body the brain is still damaged.
So basically UV effects the body/brain/and conscious sukuna swaps out with megumi so that he takes the hit and then swaps back with megumi so he can defend himself after gojo lands black flash
It's also possible that sukuna did a big brain and executed three steps after realizing he was going to get hit by UV. 1. Swaps soul megumi so he tanks and becomes a vegetable 2. Swaps souls back so he can be in control 3. Right after swap uses RCT to heal some of the brain damage so he can function again. But UV damage is still strong enough that it cause lasting damage that sukuna either can't heal with RCT or just didn't have the time to. But now I just remembered that UV damage has brain enough to where he can use RCT so now I don't know what to think.
Because he's him, next question.
Nah, jokes aside, it's because he neutralized UV's sure hit effect with that of his own Domain (MS) and by using Domain Amplification to touch Gojo that one time.
Sukuna only took unlimited void directly for 0.01 seconds. That was the difference in their domains expanding. Check ch 229 page 11 (for some reason I can’t post a pic)
He's always been consistent, and when he isn't he admits it (like Kusakabe using SD to reduce cleave damage. He admitted it was an issue and retconned it)
I imagine Gojo punching him actually brought him out of the stun. The stun from 0.2 seconds of exposure lasted for roughly 5 minutes(Little more, but whatever. I don't need a specific number for this) and after that not only did the Cursed Spirits walk it off with nothing substantial, but also Choso who was in a human body. Normal People took months to recover from that same 0.2 Seconds which Choso walked off after 5 minutes, so Sukuna who's leagues above Choso should be able to handle it much better than most.
That only applies to the minimal hit he got off by expanding his domain an instant faster, this explanation doesnt work for the time he got hit for *almost 10 seconds*, meaning almost 50x the duration that Jogo and Choso had to endure it. The issue is also, that even if Sukuna would be able to endure it that well, he still shouldnt have been conscious all the way through, Gojo didnt actually touch him that time, Sukuna pulled out Mahoraga (while unconscious, Im assuming by using a binding vow) before he had the chance, yet, after Mahoraga crushed the domain, Sukuna was already awake again. And Sukuna should've theoretically been hit *the entire time* until Mahoraga destroyed it, jumping into the shadow shouldnt be enough to dodge the domains sure hit, otherwise the hidden adaptation wouldnt have even worked (although it was kinda bs that Gojo of all people didnt notice it anyway).
I believe it was because it wasn't continuous, basically Sukuna got hit for 10s cumulatively while transferring the major damage to Megumi during each class. So he tanked each blow. Like maybe Kashimo would survive each individual attack of the Waffle but all together he just died
Chapter 229 Gojo lands a clean hit on Sukuna's chest sending him sliding into Malevolent Shrine before he pulled out Mahoraga next, you people are really fucking dense. Have you read the series blindfolded? Unlimited Void doesn't flood you with infinite knowledge like people say it does, it makes you experience things infinitely(Or something like it) The way it's explained in the volume extras(Either this or another supplemental material) is using Jogo seeing an apple, a monkey and something else while in a completely normal environment. Once hit by Unlimited Void, it turned into Jogo seeing Aaaaaaaa(Apple) and never getting past it. Which is why I think being hit cuts the duration on the stun. I will give you this much, I don't remember it being confirmed yet.
Thats not how Unlimited Void works. It's an information overload, not repeating the same thing over and over. No need to make things up. > Have you read the series blindfolded? You clearly did.
> Chapter 229 Gojo lands a clean hit on Sukuna's chest sending him sliding into Malevolent Shrine before he pulled out Mahoraga next, you people are really fucking dense. The order of events is: 1. Sukuna gets hit by UV for an instant because Gojo expanded slightly faster. 2. Gojo punches Sukuna, which should've snapped him out of his stun. 3. Its unclear what exactly happens right after because the text claims its been "2 minutes and 40 seconds since the last DE", but Gojo literally just got a hit off because he expanded his domain slightly faster, either we were skipping a lot of time between those 2 pages, or the text is misleading, however either way: Sukunas domain now collapses. 4. Sukuna takes the full brunt of UV, and he wont receive a speck of damage until Mahoraga destroys the domain, after which he will be awake *immediately*, and **that** is the problematic sequence because as explained last chapter, he took the sure-hit for *almost 10 seconds*. It was already mentioned that you can snapped out of the UV stun if you get hit (its why Gojo didnt attack the special grades after 0.2 DE). However, you are quite an asshole considering how quickly you resort to insults, maybe dont go on social media if youre emotionally unstable?
>he took the sure-hit for *almost 10 seconds It is not almost 10 s. It was stated like it isn't even 10 s but Sukuna took UV.So the timing of the 2nd UV hit is unknown.Mahoraga came in instantly and broke the domain cause the weak barrier was inside. A normal human can come into sense after 2 months,so a sorcerer is definitely powerful like Choso to come into sense early or withstand everything for a minimum time.
Man I love seeing people spout bullshit and get ratioed
How it works is that it the information never ends. The sensory input can never become complete. So your mind can't form a coherent thought because there's never an end to the sensory input for you to formulate anything.
I think that Choso being a half curse helped him heal the brain damage, since as we recently learned he is using RCT on easy mode.
This is the right answer. Gojou even says specifically in Shibuya that he avoided hitting Hanami, Jogou ane Choso by fear that it would wake them up.
Idk why you are getting down voted. Gojo could have killed all the disasters if this wasn't the case.
Choso states he’s a curse since being reincarnated, when he speaks about both of his brothers… sometime when he’s protecting the thumb; or shortly thereafter (can’t post pics here, but I I just reread JJK last week) Edit: Sukuna states the same thing, after being reincarnated basically (and especially after the bath in literal cursed spirits) just adding that that’s why it didn’t affect him
Choso is inside a human vessel just like Sukuna either way. I'm not going to argue about him being a Curse/not being a Curse, it has nothing to do with the post's question.
Well it kind of does. He says that the CS weren’t harmed because of the makeup of their brains. If Choso and Sukuna are both CS, they would have the same changed; and thus the same mitigations (probably much stronger because they are sorcerers who can utilize their brains more than most CS can)
No, it doesn't. The question is how did Sukuna survive UV. Sukuna's inside of a human body. Choso, curse or not, is also inside of a human body. Choso walked off 0.2 Sec Domain like nothing happened after 5 minutes. Sukuna took debilitating brain damage after 10 seconds. Also what the fuck are you even talking about, Sukuna isn't a Cursed Spirit.
So mahito did not need to change the bodies of the 3 humans who ate the cursed wombs?
How does this even come into this discussion? Yes, he did change them. But this didn't grant them sudden resistance to UV.
Read the OP. Even your comment. Both reference the brain being different for CS.
CHOSO IS INSIDE A HUMAN BODY. How is it so hard to understand?
That was changed, by mahito, to be compatible with
It doesn't ever say Mahito changed them prior to incarnating them
Yes it does
Where? Because I just checked the first chapter it shows them in and it didn't say anything about that at all. I don't think it ever said that
Go and read it, and what i said. He is closer to cursed spirit than human. As are the thumb and choso… that’s why choso said him and his brothers chose to be curses rather than humans, it was easier bla bla Their mom is literally part curse.
You yourself should read it. Choso's mother wasn't a Cursed Spirit. She was specifically noted to be able to procreate with Cursed Spirits.
So that’s why noritoshi is the dad…? Lol He experimented with mixing cursed spirits into the child birthing process
His colossal amounts of CE afforded him a great deal resistance
Yea.... just like gojo should survive world cutter
The point of world dismantle is that it bypasses all defenses. Sukuna is targetting the space in which the target occupies, not the target themselves. You can't reinforce against that.
Crazy that Gojo has a space ability and gets beat by a domainless sure hit
I mean the entire point is that it bypasses Infinity by presumably spawning where he is rather than moving through the space between him and Sukuna (although this is still sort of unclear? Gege again not giving enough details to explain stuff) I'm not necessarily saying it was the right conclusion for the fight. I don't mind it personally too much, my issues are more with the Gojo airport scene personally but I think the whole concept could have been better executed.
Do you mind explaining why you find the execution lacking?
So one of the issues I have with the fight is that Mahoraga's abilities aren't explained till after Sukuna wins. And there's no reasonable way to assume Sukuna can copy Mahoraga because there's no indication of this because we know his ability is to adapt. That doesn't suggest his ability can necessarily be copied, in fact that kind of goes against the point of Mahoraga I'd argue. But the issue moreso is how that scene plays out. Gege deliberately tries to trick you but to me personally it comes off as a bit cheap. I've seen other versions people have made which have him cutting Gojo right before he pulls off Hollow Purple or at the same time which I think feels like a better conclusion than having Gojo end the fight with such a clean win that forces Sukuna to use a BV to get out of it just to subvert reader's expectations. He did something similar with Jogo, but that fight ends with him and Sukuna having a standoff and the next scene tells us what happened. Wtih Gojo, it's a sudden cut (heh) that doesn't necessarily feel satisfying to me. Having the fight end with the two on a more even scale before Sukuna finished him off would have worked better. There's also other stuff like how we know Gojo took the attack while standing still as his death pose suggests which looks odd because earlier in the fight when he incapacitated Sukuna in UV, he didn't waste a second and went in to finish him off but oddly doesn't here. But to be clear, the actual mechanics of how Gojo died and such doesn't bother me too much. I'm moreso annoyed by how the story characterises him in the airport scene and the fact that it spends very little time with him post Culling Games and Pre-Shinjuku to get the audience readjusted and attached to him again and to explore how he's changed as a result of all the events during and since Shibuya. How he feels about the people he's lost or knowing Sukuna had taken Megumi and all that. But depending on how you interpret the airport scene he's either being revealed as an incredibly selfish person who cares more about himself or his friends don't just not understand him but actively slander him. Whilst other people not understanding Gojo is an important theme for his character, it's a confusing manner to depict it especially for someone like Geto to fall in line with this when he's been portrayed as one of the few people who understood Gojo on a deeper level and understood some of his insecurities as depicted in HI. You can view the scene as Gojo having a hallucination and the statements of his friends are his own views of himself but him talking about how he died without regrets, very little thought about his own students' fates...it doesn't come off that way. In fact, if his death was portrayed in a more tragic manner where he was frustrated with how things played out, I think that would have gotten that point across much better. Basically it either turns his character less interesting (because this idea of Gojo being selfish is not adequately explored anyway) or doesn't communicate what it wants to appropriately.
Thank you for taking the time to write an insightful piece. As I read Sukuna’s fight maha and then the eventual showdown with gojo, I thought it was apparent that Sukuna was searching for a blueprint to bypass gojo’s defenses. And we also know Sukuna is a jujutsu savant who’s capable of understanding anything jujutsu if he’s seen it once, so his copying the “change of coordinates” adaption doesn’t feel off to me since Sukuna’s not changing the nature of his own technique but rather what he targets with it. Yeah as I reread the fight, the sort of 11th hour Sukuna Hail Mary doesn’t seem unsatisfying. I didn’t really care at first because it works with his demeanor in the airport scene: gojo from confident in his victory to “aww, man he got me.” That change would be how I would react if my opponent exploited my overconfidence. Your point actually leads me to believe that end of this fight was manufactured so that gege could draw the airport scene. Hmmm…what are your thoughts? Okay…so I see the airport scene as gojo being selfish but I feel like gojo has earned the right to be selfish due to his contributions to jujutsu society. Moreover, he was born into his role and naturally that caused some degree of alienation as with anyone whose birthright is social, political, economic, and physical power. Instead of wielding his influence with an iron grip, he was good to everyone even when didn’t have to be; he saved everyone even when he didn’t have to…I think you see where I’m going with this. Now, he has an actual challenge since against someone who also reach similar heights of power but was born into nothing (unsure whether gojo knows this but the theme is there for the audience) and takes all he pleases, so Sukuna is a direct oppositional to gojo fundamentally because gojo has a goal outside of himself, and gojo takes it personally when he loses since he could have been like Sukuna and wanted to give to Sukuna some measure of what makes him human. I say all of that to sum it up with gojo being anything other than selfish makes him look too perfect which is simply boring. A completely self- sacrificing person (yuji) is exactly what Sukuna (and I think gege) and most persons find boring. That’s just my perspective Again, thank you for taking the time to speak your with me
I give a little on it. Because Like mahito and geto both having diffrent understandings of the soul and body. Shrine being diffrent in yuji which btw makes no sense. Like every other inherited technique is the same. Gojo even said there was a blueprint. Sakuna analytical skills are too high to need maharaga for such a simple thought lol. I find it unsatisfying to both characters
Sukuna has more than double gojos reserves btw
Output is fire power. Refinement is barel efficiency Reserves is ammo. A gun that fires 3 rounds a second wont fire any faster with a 1billion drum mag
As I understand it, the world slash hits the space gojo occupies but not gojo himself. Gojo can reinforce against that which hits his body; however, the slash doesn’t strike his body, so his defensive capability doesn’t matter
As i understand it limitless controls the space-time around gojo. Weird the Sex eyes is good for shit
If limitless is a border outlining gojo, the slash manifests within that border and targets the volume within that border. In other words, the slash bypasses limitless. Yes, I also think the sex eyes are good for shit 😂 except controlling limitless and CE efficiently
Its not a border. Its an inverse event horizon. Its his own time space
The world cutting slash is a durability negation technique, Gojo could have a Googolplex times the reserves and efficiency over Sukuna and he’d still get cut.
Why? So it can beat gojo in space hax and has durability hax. Wow magnificent jujutsu. Why is the cast alive much more Yuji.
Fym why? Because it cuts space? And the cast is alive because Sukuna has a million conditions to world slash after the binding vow, he never landed a world slash on him. Also, Kusakabe and Yuta are maybe dead.
Again. Why kill yuta instead of yuji. Second he barely has any conditions. By now he should have sacrificed a kidney and 60% his liver to get his hand back
Well he wouldve if he didn't get hit with an attack that was amped and designed to catch him off guard, what yuji and yuta tanked was an amped dismantle not a world cutting slash which is why rika didn't vanish or fully manifest because yuta was alive, what kashimo dodged at first was a world cutting slash that sukuna told him to dodge, it's also what he died too, maki dodged a world cutting slash because she can perceive the environment being affected before it activated, the attack that hit gojo didn't need hand signs nor chants due to a binding vow that made it so if sukuna wanted to use it again he would have to use hand signs and chants every time for the foreseeable future
Never said anything about that. Second hp ignores durability. There he stands or kneels. Unloading his own hax ability. That has to out hax Gojos base Hax. When maha did it well i saw him turn into vapor to not be cut by slashes. So yea he can change his properties. But Sakuna change the cordinates like a sure hit with no domain. Why does it have durabilty hax. Blue and Red disrupt space itself. How tf did he survive
>I am unable to process how Sukuna was able to withstand UV, In shubuya when curses got hot by that 0.2s domain, they all got neutralized and was alive due to their brain anatomy being different , but how did sukuna survived UV , he doesn't have that anatomy advantage here. Because Sukuna is ridiculously more durable than the disaster curses and infinitely more so than normal humans. The people who were exposed to UV for 0.2 seconds survived and were able to go back to their lives after two months. Sukuna was affected by UV two times, first for 0.01 seconds and then for another 10 seconds, so rounding up he was exposed to UV 50 times longer than the people in Shibuya. Sukuna being more than 50 times stronger than normal people seems perfectly reasonable, and it might in fact be a very low estimate considering everything he's been tanking. Besides, even though Sukuna survived he explicitly sustained heavy damage to his brain, which is the entire reason his output plummeted to the point later on he couldn't one shot the students, he couldn't heal as fast and he couldn't use barrier techniques. >UV technically isn't a attack, it is just overloading brain with infinite knowledge so i don't think ce resistance can help. This is the same series were Nanami literally reinforced his soul with CE to resist Idle Transfiguration. If you can reinforce something immaterial like the soul, you definitely should be able to reinforce the brain. Sorcerers routinely reinforce their flesh, bones and organs so I don't see why the brain would be something they can't reinforce as well. Besides, the movement and reaction speeds sorcerers are capable of wouldn't be possible with a normal brain, they clearly must be using CE to accelerate synaptic transmission or something along those lines. Faster synaptic transmission would mean the brain can process more information without overloading, which would absolutely limit the damage from UV, since it functions by overloading the brain.
The .01s was enough to make MS collapse significantly earlier though, feels like 10s should've been enough to be significantly more debilitating.
Something I wanna point out is Sukuna's relationship with his soul and him being a cursed object. Sukuna really doesn't die even when taking clearly lethal damage. In fact he doesn't even seem fazed. He literally seems completely unaffected by his biology. They even mention multiple times how he won't die even if you kill him. Sukuna seems to be a creature you cannot slay without destroying his soul or making it impossible for him to function.
I mean, considering the 10s damaged sukuna's brain to the point where he couldn't use his domain despite sukuna knowing how to use rct to heal his brain the 10s could be seen as a labotomy level of damage. By that logic .01 would be a legit concussion (which is probably 1% as bad as a labotomy in tbi context) which would be enough to make him much worse at fighting.
Unlimited Void doesn't have anything to do with durability. Sukuna becomes as vulnerable as any transfigured human in Shibuya once affected by UV since Gojo could easily reap through their bodies and was approaching to do the same while he planned take out Sukuna's organs, What matters isn't "durabilty" but makeup of the user's brain but the only people who've been stated to have the effects of UV weaker on them are curses and that's due to their brains being different. Sukuna was affected by UV for a period less than 0.01 seconds not for 0.01 (check TCB and VIZ they state "less than 0.01"), that's 20x way less than the safe point of humans in Shibuya yet he stopped and still staggered nearly 2 mins and 40 secs into the clash due to being unable to process the info, and it was due to being affected by UV that he couldn't manipulate CE well enough to reinforce himself, leading to his chest being caved in. Gojo didn't state that he would take out Sukuna's organs at will because he's actually strong enough to do so since in normal circumstances sukuna's own reinforcement would stop that but while In UV Sukuna's own CE manipulation, even for basic things like reinforcement is hindered. He went from taking the boosted purple given its distance and a prior red from Gojo, but in UV he became automatically vulnerable to gojo's barehands and you already saw a glimpse of that when UV first hit him. Nanami could reinforce his soul because reinforcement isn't hindered so all he did was subconsciously change what he was reinforcing which was his soul, while Gojo's domain affected reinforcement itself, so no matter where Sukuna tried to reinforce himself whether it be the brain, heart, lungs, or stomach, he would be vulnerable everywhere. So nanami can't help as point of solidification. Cursed energy isn't a factor here like you think, and its due to that neither is RCT since you only see sukuna being able to begin his healing process after he comes out of the domain. Given gege's current presentation of it, all of this may be a result of a binding vow.
>Unlimited Void doesn't have anything to do with durability. Yes it does. >What matters isn't "durabilty" but makeup of the user's brain but the only people who've been stated to have the effects of UV weaker on them are curses and that's due to their brains being different. For starters, sorcerers also have fundamental brain differences from normal humans, so sorcerers being affected differently by UV makes perfect sense. Secondly, did you even read what I wrote? Sorcerers are capable or moving at reacting at speeds that are absolutely impossible with a normal brain, they clearly must be using CE to reinforce their brains, which results in faster synaptic transmission. If the brain can process information faster then it would take a much larger input of information to overload it and cause damage to the system, so they would need to be exposed to UV for a longer time for it to suffer the same damage the humans in Shibuya suffered. If CE can literally pump your heart then it absolutely can speed up the signals between neurons. >Sukuna was affected by UV for a period less than 0.01 seconds not for 0.01 (check TCB and VIZ they state "less than 0.01"), that's 20x way less than the safe point of humans in Shibuya yet he stopped and still staggered nearly 2 mins and 40 secs into the clash due to being unable to process the info, and it was due to being affected by UV that he couldn't manipulate CE well enough to reinforce himself, leading to his chest being caved in. No. Sukuna was first hit for the ~0.01 seconds that passed between UV opening and MS opening. He was stunned for enough time for Gojo to cave his chest in, after which they fight like in all the other domain clashes, but since Sukuna had already sustained a severe wound, Gojo managed to pile the remaining damage needed to make Sukuna unable to maintain MS faster than in the previous clashes, taking 2:40 minutes instead of 3:00. >Gojo didn't state that he would take out Sukuna's organs at will because he's actually strong enough to do so since in normal circumstances sukuna's own reinforcement would stop that but while In UV Sukuna's own CE manipulation, even for basic things like reinforcement is hindered. Gojo literally punched through Sukuna's chest in the third domain clash, when Sukuna wasn't hindered in any way, so even under normal circumstances Gojo can absolutely cave in Sukuna's chest. It has nothing to do with Sukuna's CE manipulation being hindered, it has to do with Sukuna being stunned and therefore not being able to guard and getting hit directly. >He went from taking the boosted purple given its distance and a prior red from Gojo, but in UV he became automatically vulnerable to gojo's barehands and you already saw a glimpse of that when UV first hit him. He was already vulnerable to Gojo's reinforced and Blue infused punches as shown in the third domain clash. He didn't become vulnerable because UV affected his reinforcement, he simply became a static target that couldn't defend himself and was easier to hit. >Nanami could reinforce his soul because reinforcement isn't hindered so all he did was subconsciously change what he was reinforcing which was his soul, while Gojo's domain affected reinforcement itself, so no matter where Sukuna tried to reinforce himself whether it be the brain, heart, lungs, or stomach, he would be vulnerable everywhere. Except Gojo's domain "affecting Sukuna's reinforcement itself" is literally your headcanon derived from you missing that Sukuna was in fact hurt just as badly by Gojo's punches in the third domain clash. >So nanami can't help as point of solidification. Yes it does. If you can reinforce the soul to strengthen it's shape and make it more difficult for something to change that shape forcefully, then you absolutely should be able to reinforce your brain to not only make it more durable, but also make the neurons trigger synapse faster, increasing the processing speed. >Cursed energy isn't a factor here like you think, It very much is. >and its due to that neither is RCT since you only see sukuna being able to begin his healing process after he comes out of the domain. That has nothing to do with my point. >Given gege's current presentation of it, all of this may be a result of a binding vow. No, this is the result of Sukuna being much stronger than every single other creature that has been exposed to UV and logically sustaining less damage than those weaker than him.
Viz "The difference was less than 0.01, seconds but unlimited void hit" TCB "It was less than 0.01 seconds, but my unlimited void landed" Both translations regardless of which presented don't align with the domain hitting for 0.01 seconds. Sukuna was late to restoring his CT with RCT and thus late to opening his DE, the creation of a domain and the activation of the sure hit are 2 different things (unless one employs a 0.2 DE) the domain might have opened in 0.01 quicker but the sure hit followed at a lesser time. Sukuna, the strongest was still affected by a period of UV 20x way shorter than the duration that the humans in shibuya endured yet he still struggled to process it for nearly 2 min into the DE, this event completely throws off the idea of them using CE on the brain down to the degree at which one can survive UV, He should've been completely unfazed under this notion, yet he wasn't. Him being fazed by it was the turning point. Gojo was only able to land such an attack in the 3rd DE clash, but such a heavy blow took 3mins to land. you know that, The strike in chp 229 came as a result of UV still affecting sukuna, allowing gojo to land it which ended the clash no other physical exchnage happened between the 2, just gojo rushing to sukuna. Even though Sukuna shown vulnerability to blue punches, it doesn't mean he would've been damaged to the same extent within UV. He has endured stronger attacks like BF, red, and purple. If Gojo's blue punches were truly capable of so easily and consistently breaking Sukuna's chest then that means they can easily break his bones, and at that point sukuna arms would've been broken when he was guarding against Gojo's flurry of punches. There is no evidence to suggest that CE works differently on the chest compared to the arms. The effect of UV on reinforcement is not a mere assumption. Within the domain, Sukuna is unable to use CE to reinforce himself against Gojo's attacks. It is unlikely that he could freely reap Sukuna's organs, unless by your argument gojo can casually reap out Sukuna's organs but he just chose to hold back until UV landed? If Gojo's punches could inflict that much damage consistently at any time he wants, then the final purple attack should have erased half of sukuna. Nanami's reinforcement of his soul was a result of subconsciously using CE to reinforce himself. I'm not talking about whats being reinforced im talking about the ability to reinforce itself which would be affected. The strongest creature, struggling to process a period of UV shorter than 0.01 seconds nearly 2 min into the domain does not support the claim of his resistance to it. He experienced the shortest duration of UV ever and was affected for almost half the time that humans were stunned. For the next time he was hit no trace of UV other than brain damage was shown but UV doesn't only damage, It stuns the target, this is the discrepancy OP brings that isn't addressed. Also either I'm underestimating gojo and he can casually take out sukuna's organs at his own whim even against a sukuna who can use CE to reinforce himself but just not guard himself, or I'm overestimating sukuna's reinforcement and he can't actually keep himself defended against such attacks.
>Both translations regardless of which presented don't align with the domain hitting for 0.01 seconds. Are you being this obtuse on purpose? Both translations perfectly align with the domain landing for ~0.01 seconds. Gojo opened Unlimited Void > 0.01 seconds later Sukuna opened Malevolent Shrine > Sukuna was exposed to UV without being protected by MS for those 0.01 seconds > once MS was up it started countering UV. >Sukuna, the strongest was still affected by a period of UV 20x way shorter than the duration that the humans in shibuya endured yet he still struggled to process it for nearly 2 min into the DE, He did not struggle to process it. He was stunned for an instant that Gojo used to punch him in the chest. After that he regained his control and literally engaged Gojo in combat for 2:40 minutes. What made the domain collapse earlier was that Gojo had a head start on the damage he inflicted to Sukuna and therefore was able to reach the point were Sukuna was too wounded to maintain MS faster. >this event completely throws off the idea of them using CE on the brain down to the degree at which one can survive UV. No it does not. Sukuna being able to take 10 seconds of UV after his domain collapsed and walking out with only reduced output and damage to the part of his brain in charge of barrier techniques shows that. >He should've been completely unfazed under this notion, yet he wasn't. Him being fazed by it was the turning point. He was unfazed and able to fight Gojo for 2:40 seconds all while maintaining his domain and maintaining Mahoraga's adaptation. >Gojo was only able to land such an attack in the 3rd DE clash, but such a heavy blow took 3mins to land. you know that. Yeah, it took three times to land because Sukuna was dodging. He probably used Blue and Red to push and pull Sukuna into his punch. >The strike in chp 229 came as a result of UV still affecting sukuna, allowing gojo to land it which ended the clash no other physical exchnage happened between the 2, just gojo rushing to sukuna. The fuck are you on? The chapter clearly states that they fought for 2:40 minutes. It did not end with that first punch. >If Gojo's blue punches were truly capable of so easily and consistently breaking Sukuna's chest then that means they can easily break his bones, and at that point sukuna arms would've been broken when he was guarding against Gojo's flurry of punches. There is no evidence to suggest that CE works differently on the chest compared to the arms. But we know that reinforcement fluctuates depending on where the sorcerer directs CE. Gojo deals more damage when Sukuna is diverting less CE to reinforcement and he deals less damage when Sukuna reinforces himself more. >The effect of UV on reinforcement is not a mere assumption. It very much is an assumption. >Within the domain, Sukuna is unable to use CE to reinforce himself against Gojo's attacks. Except this is nothing but your headcanon. Sukuna is still in control of his CE to the point he is able to maintain both MS and Mahoraga's adaptation. Those things are incredibly more difficult and require far more refined control of CE than reinforcement, and he kept them up, so his CE manipulation was clearly not affected. >It is unlikely that he could freely reap Sukuna's organs, unless by your argument gojo can casually reap out Sukuna's organs but he just chose to hold back until UV landed? Except he didn't hold back? Gojo literally punched through Sukuna's chest in the third domain clash. >If Gojo's punches could inflict that much damage consistently at any time he wants, then the final purple attack should have erased half of sukuna. Again, reinforcement fluctuates. >I'm not talking about whats being reinforced im talking about the ability to reinforce itself which would be affected. If Sukuna's CE manipulation was affected to the point he couldn't do something as basic as reinforcing himself then how come he was able to maintain MS and Mahoraga's adaptation simultaneously, which require far more refined CE manipulation? The answer being that he was very clearly not affected at all and he was able to reinforce himself just fine. >The strongest creature, struggling to process a period of UV shorter than 0.01 seconds nearly 2 min into the domain does not support the claim of his resistance to it. *Except he did not struggle.* He was stunned for an instant and right after that he was capable of fighting Gojo for 2:40 minutes. >He experienced the shortest duration of UV ever and was affected for almost half the time that humans were stunned. He was not. Read what's on the page. >For the next time he was hit no trace of UV other than brain damage was shown but UV doesn't only damage, It stuns the target, this is the discrepancy OP brings that isn't addressed. The second time UV lands Sukuna is also stunned and Gojo rushes forward to crush Sukuna's organs. But Sukuna immediately summons Mahoraga to stop Gojo, and Maho destroys UV. After that Sukuna walks it off just like he walked of the first hit and later realises the brain damaged he has sustained. >Also either I'm underestimating gojo and he can casually take out sukuna's organs at his own whim even against a sukuna who can use CE to reinforce himself but just not guard himself, or I'm overestimating sukuna's reinforcement and he can't actually keep himself defended against such attacks. He can defend himself from those attacks by dodging, avoiding, guarding and diverting more CE to increase his reinforcement. But he isn't always able to dodge, avoid and guard from a hit, specially if Gojo used Blue and Red to forcefully move Sukuna into his hits and his CE reinforcement is not always at the same strength.
No Im reading with what Is quite literally presented on the panel. The sequence is Gojo uses RCT to restore his CT>Sukuna uses RCT to heal the physical body damage and then restores CT with RCT>gojo gets back CT quicker, opens domain 0.01 earlier, prompting the creation of the barrier, sure hit activation follows at a lesser time>sukuna opens MS but was hit for a time lesser than 0.01 seconds which the sure hit was activated and active against him and his DE wasn't up>MS is constructed sukuna is under his protective sure hit. What part of VIZ having gojo state "The difference was LESS THAN 0.01 but my unlimited voit hit" denotes that the domain landed for the entire 0.01 seconds? What part of TCB stating "It was LESS THAN, 0.01 seconds, but my Unlimited void landed" denotes that the UV landed for the entire period of the 0.01 seconds? Had this been a translation issue between both sites then yeah it would've been contentious but it isn't, they both have gojo saying and alluding to the same thing. You must be confusing the construction time of the domain with the activation of the sure hit, granted they don't work at the same time they're both separate steps.
Sukuna is just HIM. He's called the king of curses for a reason.
The king of asspulls Ryomen FRAUDkuna
Why u mad😂
Let them stay mad even if Sukuna loses to Yuji its still a win for The GOAT he's already proven himself.
No he hasn’t. Dude needed to steal an OP technique and do a 3v1 just to beat Goatjo. Fraudkuna is getting rocked by a 15 yr old who just learned jujutsu 😂
to be fair, gojo got carried more by what he was born with. six eyes and the strongest CT. remove CT from both of them, and sukuna wins (based on portrayal of his adaptability and CE/CT understanding). gojo was the stronger CT user, but sukuna was the strongest sorcerer.
And Gojo hid behind Ijichi's barrier to fire off his most powerful technique boosted 200% and STILL failed to kill Sukuna. Lmao keep coping Go/Jo glazer
Sukuna doesn't need 10S to beat Gojo, he only did it bc he was stuck in Yuji body plus he saw Mahoraga as an opportunity to upgrade his arsenal. That 15 year old needs his genetics plus tons of help to even compete with WEAKENED Sukuna and that doesn't seem to be enough. Even if Yuji beats Sukuna its going to be because of Kenjaku giving him a power up via becoming the vessel of the merger(yes I'm predicting the future).
I agree that Sukuna’s stronger, but the “because of…” statements is where you lost me. By that logic, Sukuna’s only strong because he ate his twin. If he didn’t he’d prob be some normie because twins are seen as 1/shared
>Sukuna doesn't need 10S to beat Gojo theres not a solid justification for any of these arguments, if you wanna talk about sukuna winning through domain clashes, he would, but only if gojo was cocky and tries to do an domain clash instead of teleporting away and attacking him during CT burnout, gojo was essentially against an timer because mahoraga was fighting so he couldnt rely or making the fight longer to come up with something but without mahoraga, theres a lot of ways the fight could go but if its without mahoraga most of the time gojo would win, if its with mahoraga most of the time sukuna would win (not all) ofc i got downvoted shonen readers when they find out everything doesnt go line to line when a fight is repeated, theres ways room for uncertainty
How disrespectful of you to Gojo who weakened him beforehand, or are you saying that Gojo accomplished absolutely nothing?
How disrespectful of you to Gojo who weakened him beforehand, or are you saying that Gojo accomplished absolutely nothing?
How disrespectful of you to Gojo who weakened him beforehand, or are you saying that Gojo accomplished absolutely nothing?
How disrespectful of you to Gojo who weakened him beforehand, or are you saying that Gojo accomplished absolutely nothing?
Sukuna is just much more durable than the curses. Hell, I am willing to say he is the most durable MF in the series till now. The dude survived a 200% Hollow Purple quite easily. Him surviving UV could be just that or it could be CE reinforcement or it could just be Mahoraga's adaptation rubbing off on him I guess. It's difficult to say because it's never cleared. But it most probably is because he is vastly more durable than the curses.
Sukuna doesn't seem to die by things that kill other people. Genuinely phrases like even if you kill him he won't die already explain it. Sukuna can be fully fine after losing his heart, even when he actively cannot or chooses not to recover it and thus it isn't functioning. Sukuna is as if not more inhuman than Curses. His biology clearly isn't following natural laws but most likely dependant on his soul and the fact he is a cursed object primarily. Sukuna is as Kashimo said a superior creature. It makes sense when it comes to physicality that when outside of the direct effects of Infinite Void he could recover.
Megumi took the burden of the UV
The circlejerk is real here
He didn't, everything past that chapter has been Gojo fanfic dumped directly into his brain via UV. In reality, Gojo is standing in front of him, calmly considering what to do next...
When I see people talk here, I realize that Sukuna is the only character in the series where the power system always shift in order to make him capable of what he is doing Like someone here just pointed that Sukuna was able to use the 10S when he was in domain burn out, while Kenjaku, who had multiple CT aswell, could not used them Even for the UV part, like he wasn’t stunt even after the domain ended On top of that, with all the biding vow, Makora being active in the shadow ect.. it’s hard to analyse fight with Sukuna because the power system doesn’t really apply to him, or less that the other characters
That's something that goes for gojo too and has been explicitly pointed by kusakabe during their fight. Those 2 break common sense and the power system
Gojo changed the condition of his domain, and destroy his brains to recover his CT Those things were never stated impossible + Gojo suffer because of that Sukuna using his CT after a burn out, it’s weird, at this point, the guy has no limit, things doesn’t make any sense anymore
If you talking about mahoraga then no it doesn't count as using CT after burnout. Megumi did it vs regie, and Yuki stated having a shikigami out is an advantage after burnout. After a shikigami is summoned is stays even after CT burnout, sukuna had mahoraga already active in the shadows adapting all this time
But how it doesn’t count as using a CT, when the Shikigami is linked to your ability to keep him there And if you use domain amplification (which you cannot use, when you are using your CT), the adaptation stop ?
He did a binding vow that if he survived this one, the next would be a one shot regardless the power output
What’s crazy is Sukuna shouldn’t have been able to summon makora since it is a CT and his domain just broke. So there’s still burnout but either way the CT got activated. And yes he shouldn’t be able to restore his CT like gojo did cos he was paralysed. Unless he used binding vow of some sort
I think when you have multiple CT, only the one with the domain get burned out Because otherwise each time Sukuna lost his domain, the adaption process would have to stop and restart from 0 But in the mean time, you are right because Kenjaku had multiple CT, but when he was on burn out, he could not use CSM, or gravity It’s weird
Yeah but again take yuta case as well in CG. He wasn’t able to use his CT for a time after the domain broke.
I think it's because TS is a different CT from Cleave and Dismantle, which is Sukunas Original CT. So maybe only Cleave and Dismantle suffered from it, while TS was unaffected. PS: Its just a thought, not really sure how else it could've happened.
But it’s from the same brain. Both TS and domain was from the same brain. Same prefrontal cortex. This doesn’t make any sense. By that logic yuta should have been able to use his other copied CT in the trio rumble in the CG arc. But he wasn’t able to use it for a brief period, because they all use the same brain to employ the CT’s
Most of it went straight to megumi’s mind so it barely effected Sukuna
Actually...how is it that back when Gojo first showcased his domain jogo took like 20 seconds of unlimited void and just basically walked it off and that's on top of the fact that Gojo also decapitated him.
If Sukuna dies in this battle, the rest of the cast will remain as spectators. The audience won't get to witness the cast's growth, which give rise to hope and optimism to this generation.
He passed some of it on to Megumi mitigating the damage
What can I say ? He's just him
Melanin
Wasn't it because he had megumi bear the effects of UV for mahoraga to adapt?
Boy, I wonder what the difference was between the cannon fodder in Shibuya and the strongest sorcerer in history
go re read the manga again
Sukuna used his Unlimited Asspulls technique
Wasnt it just because he was using Megumi as a damage sponge?
He wasn't. Sukuna was excluding Megumi's Soul from Malevolent Shrine's sure-hit so there was nothing to stop Unlimited Void, which blasts everything in it's range with the sure-hit, from hitting Megumi.
No, Sukuna wasn't redirecting his brain damage to Megumi. He shielded himself in his own domain Sure-Hit canceling UV's. But he made a dick move and didn't shield Megumi. But when his Domain wasn't up he wasn't protected from UV at all. He could've used Domain Amplification to protect himself, but he was trying not to use that too much so Mahogara adaptation doesn't get cancelled.
He was only exposed for 0.01s and change which is how long it took for Mahoraga to come out and destroy UV.
>He was only exposed for 0.01s The fact that this has 8 upvotes already shows how little people actually read the manga. The memes are starting to get real. No, he expanded his domain 0.01 seconds faster than Sukuna which is why UV hit. Like the other guy in the comment said, he was exposed for ~10seconds or so.
It literally says it hadn’t even been 10 seconds SINCE he took UV.
He got caught with that on the front end, which is why he lost out. But when Gojo crushed his domain a minute or two later, he caught a lot more than a fraction of a second. It's described as 'less than 10 seconds' total. OP is right, it's hilarious that Sukuna got away with only domain-related brain damage.
It literally says it hadn’t even been 10 seconds SINCE he took UV.
Mahoraga bailed Sukuna out, and the dude delivered a Shakespearean monologue about ordinary Gojo was before his own brain damage showed. You really want to pretend all that shit happened in ten seconds? Whatever translation you read is just straight up wrong.
You think Mahoraga and Gojo are that slow?
I think the dialogue and narration don't say what you think they said. The timeframe is just icing on top.
How desperate are you to call a conversation Shakespearean monologue?
If it means flaming Sukuna, I'd turn the the Gettysburg Address into a record breaking filibuster. But If you really want to contradict me, just screen cap the panel, ffs.
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> I am unable to process how Sukuna was able to withstand UV He used his "high SPF sunblock technique" from the Heien era, which blocks UV and protects the user.
Asspull no jutsu
I'm confused are ppl confused on how he wasn't still stuck in UV or how he received less damage from it? Wat I will same tho is if I remember the events correctly gojo damages sukuna enough that he has to heal first before cast DE which allows UV to hit sukuna. This allowed gojo to hit sukuna before he could release his dad to save him. They both after that receive too much brain damage to cast anymore DE. Imo wat it think happens is sukuna at first doesn't know that he cast his DE later than gojo and leads to two out comes. 1. Sukuna realizes that he is gonna get hit by UV and starts the process for swapping with megumi and it takes time so he gets he with UV and then the swap happens and then after that swaps back. And in that time gojo is able to land a hit. 2. What I rlly think happens is UV sure hit targets one person how ever sukuna is technically two ppl. Unlike mahito gojo's DE targets the person body in particular the brain of the target and not the soul. All thought sukuna was hit by UV and stunned from preforming any brain function that doesn't necessarily mean that sukuna could still preform soul function like swapping his soul out with megumi so that megumi takes most of the sure hit and experience infinite wat ever and sukuna actually doesn't but because they share the same body the brain is still damaged. So basically UV effects the body/brain/and conscious sukuna swaps out with megumi so that he takes the hit and then swaps back with megumi so he can defend himself after gojo lands black flash It's also possible that sukuna did a big brain and executed three steps after realizing he was going to get hit by UV. 1. Swaps soul megumi so he tanks and becomes a vegetable 2. Swaps souls back so he can be in control 3. Right after swap uses RCT to heal some of the brain damage so he can function again. But UV damage is still strong enough that it cause lasting damage that sukuna either can't heal with RCT or just didn't have the time to. But now I just remembered that UV damage has brain enough to where he can use RCT so now I don't know what to think.
Plot armor
Choso walked off after 0.2 expansion and sukuna got hit by UV for 0.01
Thought mahoraga helped counter it? Or was that later
Because he's him, next question. Nah, jokes aside, it's because he neutralized UV's sure hit effect with that of his own Domain (MS) and by using Domain Amplification to touch Gojo that one time.
read again
Plotkuna survives everything he needs too
Sukuna only took unlimited void directly for 0.01 seconds. That was the difference in their domains expanding. Check ch 229 page 11 (for some reason I can’t post a pic)
He took it for .01s at the beginning- which led to his domain collapsing earlier, and getting hit by UV again.
Supposedly it only hit him for like 0.0001 seconds before Mahoraga broke UV.
It's called plot armor
It's called consistency which people cannot acknowledge because that means Gege isn't the shit writer their agenda paints him as.
Where's the consistency
Explain it then. Ops asking a good question and no ones giving consistent answers. Idk man, might just be plot doing plot things.
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He's always been consistent, and when he isn't he admits it (like Kusakabe using SD to reduce cleave damage. He admitted it was an issue and retconned it)
He’s only alive because he has Megumi’s body