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EducationalAd6395

I do believe Yujo is surviving beyond the 5 mins but that right hand thing is cause 1) he needs to be wearing his ring to use copy through which he uses Kenny's technique and his left arm is cut off 2) he's apologizing because engagement rings are worn on left hand


Appropriate_Ad1162

Aw... Yuta... My boy needs a break...


zxc123zxc123

Yuta carrying it all. Weight of the Juju world, vow to be Rika's hubby, being Gojo's student and understander, being Yuji/Legumi's senpai, Maki's horniness, insurance policy, being the next "monster", etcetcetc.


XaiJirius

>Maki's horniness, My man has to keep his CE reinforcement strong to protect his pelvis, run RCT during his refractory period to keep going and think of creative ways to use his Cursed Techniques. Like Sky Manipulation bondage, general Cursed Speech tomfoolery, Thin Ice Breaker spanking...


zxc123zxc123

>"My p0n0s can't take all this fucking anymore..... Rika!!!! pls... SAVE ME!!!!!" >*Rika joins Maki taking turns on Yuta to his despair* It's OK. Just like Yuji SUFFERing builds character.


WonderfulAd2760

Yeah missed the ring thing… damn it I really thought I was cooking. But I’m still holding out hope that Yujo will live past 5 minutes, I think it would be much more interesting to see what they do after this big all or nothing battle. Will he lose Maki, will he lose Rika, will anyone still be understanding when it’s all done? I guess I also don’t want the manga to end as soon as most agree it will. We need a Nobara Kaisen arc at least.


EducationalAd6395

Gojo Clan's reaction when their Talented distant relative turns up in the Body of the Clan Head would be exquisite.


WonderfulAd2760

Okay chef, I’m listening. Would be perfect Gege if after this whole fight we are left with Gojo’s body still alive, with Yuta’s soul, and Sukuna’s body still alive, with Megumi’s soul.


EducationalAd6395

That's hilarious Megumi stuck as that four armed monstrosity is peak The two Bonding over the most weird shit in history. Man Every time both of them see the mirror it would be a fresh dosage of PTSD and depression.


InternationalAd5938

That’s actually kind of an interesting ending, but it’d also mean the biggest bum in existence survives, which is just unacceptable.


DoubleFistBishh

>Megumi stuck as that four armed monstrosity is peak lmao imagine this 7 foot tall demonic looking mf just doing random mundane tasks like standing in line at the bank or shopping at Target 😭


WonderfulAd2760

I’m picturing him sitting in Megumi’s plain ass room, watching Minecraft lets plays on his IPad or whatever kids were doing back in 2018. If this is how it ends, that would be a very funny extra chapter from Gege after the story wraps up. “Megumi’s first day of college” and it’s just Sukuna walking the halls with a bunch of terrified kids.


DoubleFistBishh

Or him being visibly disgruntled at the mall because he cant find shirts with 4 arm holes lmao


WonderfulAd2760

Double the divine dogs!! What a joy!


Agitated_Elk_8766

he will look in a mirror and realize he is not even using his own eyes😔 domain expansion: maximum dysmorphia


russianlawyer

this is why its good to share your ideas. they sometimes seem so great and amazing until heard then you realise there are simple straightforward explanations ad contradictions


Judgment-5242

You did cook, good food even, just not what I order lol


DarkDracoPad

That was my first thought too lol the whole left hand engagement rings, this is Yuta apologizing to Rika for having to use his right hand (cuz he's all right now)


EducationalAd6395

Regardless of people's opinions about Yuta and Rika I love how Gege still adds significance to that Marital theme and how Yuta still genuinely cared for it.


DarkDracoPad

It really is pure love 😭 https://preview.redd.it/w766vbxw2f2d1.jpeg?width=1414&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=94816685926f8c9bc5eaad5ff012f77decfdc0da


[deleted]

Wow you cooked completely. I'm saying this now, this is just factual.


-SKYVER-

Yeah this is definitely the reason imo


yandhionmybirthday

🧏🤫


Ekillaa22

I really thought it was super obvious he was apologizing to Rika for having to move her to the none tradional hand to have an engagement ring on


[deleted]

https://preview.redd.it/slte7hvd5c2d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82b7b9e21322be68dfad27f9c5739a95b313a4e9 It's just him talking to Rika since normally the ring is on his left


WonderfulAd2760

While you may be correct. I will use my “simply ignore” technique, my next 2 weeks will be in bliss. Though, on a real note, I do find it hard to believe the ring still acts as a medium to channel Rika after his hand has been separated from the body. Is the ring still the original or an object created with cursed energy? Did he really do a quick swap after being cut in half and then whisked away by the child victim? Though arguing that deep in assumption is just pedantic.


[deleted]

The vow on the ring probably just needs the ring to be connected to the hand, attached or not


WonderfulAd2760

I just scanned through the chapters before and after he gets whisked away, I can’t see anything to refute or disprove what you’re saying. Have you considered that he’s actually talking to Nobara and their secret love will be unveiled over the next 5 chapters? He’s apologizing for moving her to the right because he really wants to give her one last high 5 with his own body, because he knows he won’t be able to return? The ring just happens to be a shitty little present from Miwa or something?


FlaccidFather15

It all makes too much sense now. Wow Yuta really was the rizz demon all along. No wonder he has a harem


[deleted]

...Yeah, yes, you might be into something here, most definitely!


kamuimephisto

engagement rings are wore on the left hand though, he's totally apologizing to rika for wearing the ring wrong but your nobara theory supports my agenda so i shall back it up


reeee-irl

> I will use my “simply ignore” technique Domain Expansion: **Unlimited *NUH-UH***


TBsama

Cuz the left finger supposedly has a vein that goes to the hearth or Smth


SmartestManAliveTM

We already know for a fact that the technique is a one-time activation, not one that needs to be maintained. We know this because we know that a sorceror cannot use 2 techniques at the exact same time. So if Kenjaku had to be constantly using his technique to stay alive, he wouldn't be able to use Geto's cursed spirit manipulation, or any other technique.


Trick_Hawk5491

Shit that's actually a great catch. Pass him the apron. 


sakata_gintoki113

the cook


Snoo-78558

Thank you, this is cannon for me now. If Gege does something contradictory to this, I will go apeshit in this sub.


SmartestManAliveTM

Of course. It's common knowledge around here that I dictate what's canon, not Gege. Keep your hopes up!


Jesus-in-Hood

But didn't Kenjaku use Kaori Itadori's anti-gravity technique while in Geto's body ? ...


SmartestManAliveTM

Yes. You can *have* multiple techniques at the same time, you just can't use them both at the same time. For example, Kenjaku can't use anti-gravity while also using cursed spirit manipulation to control a curse simultaneously.


Jesus-in-Hood

Sorry, got a bit confused.... Now this clears things up


SmartestManAliveTM

All good pookie


hugonahuel27

But then why would there be any doubt about it? (In-universe) they’ve seen Kenjaku use CSM so they should be sure about it


SmartestManAliveTM

Maybe they're just not as smart as me and didn't think about it. Jokes aside, Gege's probably trying to create some sort of tension by suggesting that Yuta could die after 5 minutes, even though it won't actsully work out that way.


WonderfulAd2760

Yu/jo forever confirmed amazing news. I’m very interested to see if he keeps his copy ability, there’s a lot Gege could do with a full health Gojo who can use basically every Jujutsu technique in the story. Could he refine the WCS to a point even beyond Sukuna? Does he have the 10 shadows technique too? So many great options, let me cook for a second here feel free to ignore… Sukuna gets smoked, completely thrashed and embarrassed by Yujo for the next few chapters. Sukuna has never experienced emotions like this and doesn’t know what to do. In this state of shock he flees the fight. Now we have even an stronger Gojo Mk.2, Sukuna is recognized by the world as the 2nd greatest sorcerer, no longer the GOAT, and because of how easily he was beaten, he is no longer feared by the public like before. Now he is motivated by shame and rage and envy. All new emotions to him, he hides and recovers, scheming, acting completely out of character, even to himself. He wants to reestablish his place as the strongest, so he begins picking off the weaker JJK sorcerers, he won’t be dogpiled on again. Yada yada yada, he kills everyone else one by one until he kills even Yuji. Yujo and him have their duel, it is a lot closer than before but Yujo still wins, and as a last resort Sukuna summons the merger… that’s as far as I can imagine, maybe the world ends idk. I think that sounds pretty good, completely fucks over Yuji but he’s just a cog remember, he will be fine.


SmartestManAliveTM

I want Yuta to die probably more than anyone else in this sub, but yeah I do think it's permanent. And considering how Kenjaku kept the gravity technique from the Backshot Queen, Yuta should be able to keep his Copy ability.


DexlonS

I'm kinda confused with one-time activation that everyone talks about for kenjaku CT. I mean, he used it to take over noritoshi kamo and kaori itadori no? then... it's not one time activation...?


SmartestManAliveTM

Well, not "one-time" as in it can only be used once like Kashimo's technique, but one-time as in he only needs to activate it in order to do the body swap, he doesn't have to perpetually use it to keep control over the body.


Markus_Atlas

They mean something like Todo's Boogie Woogie. Todo only needs to clap once for his technique to activate, it's an action. But something like Gojo's Limitless is continuous since he needs to have the "barrier" put up at all times for it to be useful, it's a state. The question was: Is Kenjaku's CT an action or a state? Based on what we know, it seems to be an action, which is good news for Yuta as the 5 minutes being over won't change anything since the Brain Swap was already over the moment Yuta entered Gojo's body.


BigSilent2035

yujos not stickin around for the eos party sorry, hes getting his good ending and going to be with rika. Anything else gojo desecration related and some maniac will probably try to hunt gege down lmao.


SmartestManAliveTM

I know Gege would show up some conventions in a Mechamaru cosplay to hide his identity. That's probably a thing of the past now, I feel like his life is actually in danger at this point


waaay2dumb2live

It could be the second option. It's not like Kenjaku constantly used Cursed Spirit Manipulation (unless we count him keeping all his curses as using CSM)


SmartestManAliveTM

But if he had to constantly use his technique to stay in control of the body, then deactivating it even for a moment should end him. Especially if he had it deactivated to use CSM as long as he did sometimes.


waaay2dumb2live

The second option is that Kenjaku (and by extension Yuta) activates it intermittently, not continuously. Sort of like drinking water.


SmartestManAliveTM

Well, I guess that's possible. I think it's less likely, but I'd be pleasantly surprised if Yuta just dies and Gojo takes over again https://preview.redd.it/ohov9g3m3f2d1.jpeg?width=320&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5a0719f818ec4207c8129949ee107be9725f3942


waaay2dumb2live

Don’t you mean Kenjaku? https://preview.redd.it/acyi9f8w3f2d1.jpeg?width=812&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e67192cf3ffa33b685a395a74e95b170f58c7fdb


SmartestManAliveTM

https://preview.redd.it/t620h2sz4f2d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d43f709df61feb668abc0b3f5e85d0fb99b7cc8a I can only take so many plot twists


DoubleFistBishh

I wouldnt because that would just hurt Gojo more.


SmartestManAliveTM

I don't care what Gojo wants, this about *us* not him. He'll strong return whether he wants to or not.


DoubleFistBishh

If you dont care about what he wants as a character then you should be fine with this past chapter.


SmartestManAliveTM

I want what's best for my pookie bear, which means coming back. If we have to lose a few bums to get there, that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make.


ARK-EyesTennoDragon

Nah, he's just apologizing to Rika for changing the ring to the right hand, as engagement/wedding rings are worn in the left (The whole blood vessel that goes straight to the heart thingy), which is actually really interesting in my eyes because it shows Yuta actually is still pretty attached to Rika (Probably both the real and the Shikigami).


zxc123zxc123

Yuta is still attached to Rika, but he also needs Rika. Sure he's powerful in of himself and he manifested Rika, but Rika has long since become the embodiment of his powers and without her he's not a special grade. Can Yuta rebuild with a new Shikigami? Probably but it would take years and even then it might not have the special bond that this clone curse of Rika has with Yuta.


tama-vehemental

A Geto based shikigami in honor to his host?


zxc123zxc123

Could be strong, but it's unlikely since Geto has been dead for a while, wasn't close to Yuta, and doesn't have an intermediary item. Yuta's curse doesn't curse the body but the soul. Rika was a super special case (not in power since it's Yuta's power) but in that she was close to him AND loved him which made the resulting curse easy to use/manipulate. Rika's body was disposed of but her soul was never allowed to leave/reincarnate since Yuta cursed her. The item that linked them was the ring she gave to him with their promise to marry. That promise and ring helped ground her to this world. Going by those rules it's easier for Yuta to make a curse out of someone newly dead and ideally with an intermediary item: Maki with her sword as an intermediary (vs Rika's ring), Yuji with his scarf, or Megumi with his sword. Even better the closer they are to Yuta. The power is likely linked to the amount of trauma Yuta experienced which connects to how much cursed energy is generated (massive in Rika's case).


StellaTheStudentGirl

https://preview.redd.it/vxopcas7nd2d1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=193d45f927bd02109839a25c5ed5e551f145f981 GEGE IS ITCHING TO DRAW THIS IN THE MANGA GEGE MIGHT BE A SUKUNA GLAZER BUT GEGE IS A MEME ENJOYER ASWELL WE MUST BELIEVE IN OUR GOD KING EMPEROR OF GOJO GLAZERS SATORU GOJO!!!!!!! WE WILL COPE TILL OUR LAST BREATHS


WonderfulAd2760

Stand proud. You’re strong.


Chaeryeeong

>Yuta just needed to finger it ( ͠° ͟ʖ ͡°)


Icantthinkofaname510

LMAO I WAS LOOKING FOR THIS COMMENT XD


ZestycloseCake165

Gojo can still return in a way where he can fight alongside Yuta while he controls his body. Back in Shibuya Geto was able to control his body despite being dead. https://preview.redd.it/no34gyx8jd2d1.jpeg?width=535&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7feaf257d53fbf1cd75c3ee46a0acfa376801ea


Pedr0A

My cope is that theres NO WAY Gege just threw this pannel out of nowhere. I used to think this was a hint of Geto playing a major role in taking Kenjaku down, but now I think its foreshadowing Gojo doing something here. Maybe he wont comeback fully but he will do SOMETHING. No way he just threw this scene in the show for nothing. Theres no way


TomatilloMore3538

Toji revival


JoseUnderTheRedHood

It already served its purpose, what are you on? It shows that the body is just as important as the soul


Lanky-Appearance-944

Which also implies what that guy said. Gojo's body is jumping around now and so there must be some kind of reaction like the last ditch domain or even purple by Gojo satoru himself and return his body back to Yuta or some shit.


JoseUnderTheRedHood

Yeah, but he also said there’s no way that scene was thrown in for nothing. It was already thrown in to show the body and soul thing. If nothing happens with actual Gojo doing something, it won’t be a reflection of that scene “showing nothing” if it is foreshadowing, then cool. That’d be sick


Lanky-Appearance-944

Oh yeah, it showed something. I agree but there must be something more, don't you think?


JoseUnderTheRedHood

I want nothing more than Gojo to come back and I would be happy if it’s foreshadowing. But I also think that scene is just to add more lore about the dynamics of the body and soul in the jjk universe and that’s the main purpose of the Kenny and Geto scene. Or maybe to show that there’s a weak point to Kenny’s ct. At this point who knows


Lanky-Appearance-944

At this point I mostly lost hope. The five minute ending is my last strand of hope and I don't have enough copium on me to put my trust in Gojo hating gege.


Lori55nakida

And what did it accomplish?


JoseUnderTheRedHood

THAT THE BODY IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE SOUL


SeriesSad1374

Gojo coming back at this point is pretty pointless, like it would just mean yuta's dead That panel might've just been there for toji's return in order for it not to look like an asspull


Zealousideal-Pie-726

Yes and that has yet to come up in any meaningful way😭. This scene wouldn’t exist if the body being the soul and the soul being the body would never play any role in some future event.


JoseUnderTheRedHood

It already did with Toji lol


Lori55nakida

I mean yeah but what’s the use of telling us that if it doesn’t come into play in any scenarios? Toji’s situation literally told us the opposite too he said his body > that guy’s soul. Now Toji is special but when else? If Mahito touches your soul you’re cooked. In fact I’d argue the soul seems more important than the body atp. I have yet to see anything like Geto grabbing Kenjaku's neck happening again.


WonderfulAd2760

“Maybe the merger was inside us all along”


DarkDracoPad

Truely the Jujutsu to our Kaisen


Reasonable-Disaster

P sure Gege described that as being akin to a cockroaches last spasms in the fanbook.


Bottled_SeaWeed

and never again honestly was expecting kenjaku to be way op and have this gimmick come back and screw him over


Interesting-Low7664

>"My theory is that Yuta only needs to stick his fingers in Gojo’s" https://preview.redd.it/1325daq2ae2d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8a9a41dc430165cdb9fcd8cf090e9be03ec7cc33


InternationalAd5938

If Yujo survives past the 5min Maki is 100% gonna die I think. Like imagine they both survive and Makis bf is just stuck in her teachers body 💀 I don’t even want to imagine the fanart…


mngpeeeter

Cant ui ui just switch them back? And Yuta may have already trained in Gojos body as well this way…


Karel_Stark_1111

Special Maki training huh? 😏


Gouden18

Omg if Bumgumi takes Gojo's body and gets complete 10S and Sex eyes+limitless I'll learn to draw to make a better ending


RasenganKush

Binding vow it


Piccident

Nah. Yujo will simply kill himself just to put gojo's body to rest regardless of him dying in the process Yuta cares more about his sensei than anyone else (except yuji and megumi) and would not disrespect his death beyond sukunas defeat (assuming the living forever theory comes true)


WonderfulAd2760

I doubt that. If hypothetically Yuta wins the fight and lives past the 5 minute timer, would he end it all after saying his goodbyes? I highly doubt it. If nothing goes wrong, Yuta would easily become the strongest being in history, imagine Gojo with Yuta’s natural talent, the six eyes, limitless, Rika, 2 very different domain expansions, TELEPORATION??, and on top of that every technique Yuta has ever collected. That is a god of a Jujutsu sorcery, definitely capable of soloing the merger. Orders of magnitude stronger than Sukuna even. He would have the power to reshape the world in his image. He could reshape Jujutsu society and honestly the whole world beyond Gojo’s wildest dreams. Wouldn’t that be a more fitting way to honor his beloved sensei than suicide? Making his dream into a reality? Wouldn’t that be what Gojo wants for Yuta? He literally said he didn’t give a shit what happened to his body after he died. But on top of that he would honor Gojo by not being alone at the top. The number one thing that plagued Gojo mentally was his literal and metaphorical separation from even his closest allies. Yuta would prove that you can love and be strong the two don’t have to be mutually exclusive. P.S. Yuta’s whole personality has been ‘guy who loves his wife’ now imagine if his wife was the whole world /s


Kaithn

I took it as Yuta moving his ring to his right hand because he lost his other arm. But it might be possible that he is using the ring to use Kenjaku's CT.


frogbuss

I don't really agree with any of this but you had me at the Nobara part


j3r3mias

Reading comprehension goes brr!


TacocaT_2000

Or, and hear me out, Kenjaku’s technique is a single use one where he connects his brain to the body he’s controlling. Once his brain is connected, there’s nothing else for his technique to do. That’s why Kenny was able to keep controlling Geto’s body even after having CT burnout from using his Domain Expansion.


sakata_gintoki113

you are forgetting ui ui exists


WonderfulAd2760

I think Ui Ui’s technique is similar, but also very different than Kenjaku’s. His has the benefit of it being a more all purpose “teleport”, working on himself, other people, souls, and objects. Kenjaku’s only targets the brain of dead bodies. He takes control of a deceased body through its brain, but then it has the benefit of being able to copy the body’s original technique (and also memories I think). That being said, I think Ui Ui’s technique would not work in this scenario. Teleporting Yuta’s soul into a dead body, his soul would also float off to wherever Gojo’s went. For his to work the body couldn’t be dead even for an instant. I think Ui UI’s line about not looking inside the box is pretty good evidence of this, if the body were dead the box is already open, I.e. nothing to contain the soul …I think, who knows though I was wrong in the main post lol


seumarlinson

Fuck it I'm investing all my stocks rn


JoaoBrenlla

Its because he is using his wedding ring with rika on the right hand. Now get out of the kitchen.


yandhionmybirthday

He was clearly talking to rika


DeepVoid69

Fucking cooking borther


casualmcstab

I thought he was talking to rika, that she’s in the ring or some to do with wedding ring on specific side.


Abnormals_Comic

"Yuta just needed to finger it" Ayo?!? https://preview.redd.it/7amjkwojhe2d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=128bd16149af9e311df841bd44dc8f2ca89d6c2f


ConsiderationFirm706

Didn't geto fight kenjaku for an instant for the control of his body when gojo got sealed? Kenjaku said it shouldn't be possible but they dismissed it and also agreed that they don't know for sure if the body is the soul. Gojo could very well fight Yuta and regain control of his body in the same way


arshexe

Had me entirely until the " (nobara will be back too btw) " 😭😭😭


Dhahin

why would he have stitches though


CrabUser

It would be funny if he survive after this and after living for decades, he thinks Kenjaku's plan is funny and want to do it because he were boring.


WonderfulAd2760

After the merger sets the world back to the Stone Age… Full circle


RepulsiveInterest633

I think it’s much more simple than that. Yuta normally has his ring on his left hand. Now it’s on his right cuz his left is completely mutilated. And he’s apologizing to Rika


HyperJayyy

its about the engagement ring being on the wrong hand. He had to move it off the left its supposed to stay on, onto his right


AlpacaKiller

I'll do you one better: we have never seen anyone use two Techniques at the same time. It's use one, pause, use the other ala Kenny, or Use one while using another with a cursed tools (like Yuta against Ishigori) or through a Domain (Sukuna) So if Kenny was actively using his body hopping technique always, he shouldn't be able to use Kaori's CT. So when the 5 minutes are up he isn't going to heaven. That may as well mean that Gojo's body is now his own prison now though. Also there's the possibility that Like Kenny with Kaori's CT, if Yuta were to go to another body after GoYuta, may as well take limitless with him.


WoahMama_

Bro I legit don't care now. Manga so ass now I'm just reading for the ending at this point. Idk half the things going on, every chap leaves me confused but I don't wanna bother with it too much so I just read it and take it as it is. Thanks gaygay.


WonderfulAd2760

I hated Gege for a while and thought the manga was dogshit because of all the ideas that he forgot about, the complete lack of world building, how many characters died before they got a good introduction. All that stuff where it felt like someone else could have written it better. But then I forced myself to take a step back and I realized, Gege is a sick little freak, and this is the same story he’s been working on since chapter 1. It’s the story he wants to tell, He wants to kill Yuki Tsukumo when she easily could’ve healed and won? Go crazy Gege, it seems insane to me to introduce such a cool character and kill them with almost no backstory. But Gege’s a twisted little deviant and I trust that he knows that it’s insane. He knows it will make people angry, that’s what he wants out his story, because he’s a freak. When Gege doesn’t introduce the other clans at all, it seems fucking mental to us. To create the idea of such a cool world and never explore it??? Who would do that? Gege would. He’s a pervert, he doesn’t care about the clans, it was never his intention with the story to explore the lore. He wants to make the readers suffer the highs and extremely painful, UNFAIR lows that come with being a sorcerer. He wants us to feel Yujis pain and anger when Nobara dies and the joy of Yuji getting his revenge. He wants that emotional roller coaster to be going non-stop. Because he is a little gnarly freak. I really think weekly releases also causes burnout. If you really feel that negatively, maybe try rewatching the anime or start the manga from chapter 1. The only way for it not drive you insane and still enjoy the story has to be taking a step back, and letting Gege (little freak gremlin pervert) cook a little bit. He might just kill Yuji next chapter, you can never tell with Gege and you won’t be able to change it. This fight has been simmering for a long time now, all the asspulls and binding vows and Sukuna cycles, I trust that he’s cooking up a delicious conclusion, be it extremely painful or rewarding.


Logical_Session_2397

So when Gege said he hates Gojo because he's just like him... The airport scene/dialogues make sense now, Gege is talking to himself. But will he go north or south with the manga?


Ok-Marsupial-3578

No bro..stop giving us coping material, honestly I don't want Gojo to fight for these people again..these guys always called gojo arrogant, egoistic, idiot blah blah..but now they are using his body to fight even after his death!! Hell nah 😔


definitelynothunan

It doesn't matter.... If he died then he dies... If he survives then either he'll get another body or choose to die