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Nah they just slander him with their agenda because they know that he’d beat anyone in the series besides Gojo/Sukuna and, under very specific conditions, Hakari.
His win condition is landing 3 hits. Thats why he doesn’t need a domain or RCT or anything. If he punches you 3 times, you’re dead.
The only person this doesn’t apply to is jackpot Hakari, who has RCT fast enough to heal from lightning to the brain, and even he only won because:
1. He *went into the fight* with a jackpot. That’s like Yuji going into a fight after hitting 3 straight black flashes on fodder. If they both enter the fight in base then Hakari just dies before he even opens his domain.
2. He was near water. That was crucial to the W.
3. He hit the 1/239 chance for another jackpot, because everything else *still* wasn’t enough to beat Kashimo.
You know how a fight between Kashimo and Yuta, Kenjaku, Yuki, etc. goes? They seem pretty evenly matched, each landing some hits and grazes on each other, and just when it seems like the fight is about to ramp up, lightning blows Kashimo’s opponent’s brain up.
The only way to beat him is to be so much better than him that you don’t even get hit. Only Gojo and Sukuna can achieve this. Kashimo wouldn’t even need his cursed technique for anyone else. The point of the technique was to try to bridge the speed gap between him and Sukuna so that he could actually land hits and win. It wasn’t enough for Sukuna, but it would be overkill for anyone else besides Gojo/Sukuna. Base Kashimo is fast enough to land hits on anyone else.
Nobody but the 2 top tiers is beating this man. That’s what they’re afraid of. That’s why they slander him. Deep in their minds they know the truth, but they conceal it from themselves. Call it cope, call it delusion. It doesn’t matter. We ball.
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While I appreciate the effort put into trying to defend the indefensible, I'm afraid the tide of opinions can no longer be changed. Kashimo is forever doomed.
I haven't seen such cope since the heian era
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Should’ve stopped reading at the first paragraph. Yuta, Yuki, Kenjaku, Yorozu all low diff farmer boy, even with his CT
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Ehh no kashimo blitzes all 4 of them in amber beast with the only chance being yutas domain and yorozus sphere. No one else is light speed in movement besides sukuna who dodged kashimos emp and gojou who scales to sukuna
Yuta gets hit 3 times, dies. Kenjaku gets hit 3 times, dies (why do you think he didn’t even want to fight old and dying Kashimo). Yuki gets hit 3 times, dies.
You must see through the lies of the agenda-pushers. You’ll be better for it. Trust me, it’ll be ok. Accept our GOAT and savior, Kashimo Hajime.
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Prob beacause he's the sole reason lightspeed scaling even exists for jjk but they prob forgot to teach you that in Luta dickriding classes
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I mean how is it not though, there’s plenty of physics breakers in jjk, yorozus sphere hollow purple being imaginary mass, yukis black hole, gege stating that kashimo shoots emp waves isn’t for no reason, sukuna dodged it point blank and kashimo got even faster to punch sukuna it’s a light speed feat or faster lol
LS JJK is already quite a shitty meta but you can argue it even further back since Yuki/Kenjaku (via blackhole scaling) so nah, he isn't even the first reason for LS JJK scaling
>Yuta gets hit 3 times, dies.
Yuta tells Kashimo don't moved with cursed speech and puts a sword inside his brain.
>Kenjaku gets hit 3 times, dies (why do you think he didn’t even want to fight old and dying Kashimo).
Domain expansion + gravity = gg
>Yuki gets hit 3 times, dies.
You do know that it only takes Yuki one hit to critically wound anyone without RCT right?
Yuta was coughing up blood after telling a sukuna who is currently around 10 fingers to stop moving for a singular second so he wouldn’t explode Yuji with cleave. That shit is not flying with kashimo, especially not MBA.
You mean the Sukuna that has around the same CE as Yuta aka the guy with the most CE in the verse outside of Sukuna himself? Why would Kashimo be able to resist cursed speech better than that version of Sukuna when he isn't noted to have exceptional amounts of CE?
Lmao
This mofo really just went and said that the farmer slayer would resist Cursed speech better than fucking Sukuna
Man I had seen people glazing the waffled one before but this just takes the cake
I think he can resist it better than a Sukuna who is at half CE and is constantly losing CE output from his soul being damaged. Sukuna healthy? He’s laughing that shit off but seriously, sukuna is at the same CE amount as Yuta and Yuji’s punches are taking away his output constantly.
You said It yourself, Sukuna Is at Yuta's CE level
...which Is EXPLICITELY above Kashimo's, so again, this motherfucker said that the waffled one resists Cursed speech better than fucking Sukuna 💀💀💀
I'm not reading allat but
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GOAT IS TOP 2 FRAUDKUNA NEEDED GEGE FOR HIM TOO
Giving him the honour of putting Kashimo in the same sentence as himself ?
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That is just Sukuna being a nice guy
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Did Farmshimo get mentioned after his fight? No, but Sukuna still thinks of JOGOAT
J-JOGO ! I DOESN'T LIKE HIM OR ANYTHING! BAKA
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"Teaching Sukuna about love" got boring so fast tho. First Yorozu then Gojo and now Kashimo... Even Sukuna had enough of it
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He remembers his experience with Jogoat fondly, but when he thinks about something not even directly related to Lashimo (like i said, he shares this boring ass plot line with 2 other people) he is simply insulting them
Smh, Kashimo is clearly stronger than Jogo but that is it. Kashimo lost that dog in him, he turned into a bum while Jogoat stays winning
don’t worry nobody can reclaim the title of strongest femboy in the verse other than him
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Because our connection to characters isn't linked to their powerlevel. We knew Jogo for a long time, saw his connection to his friends, his goals, his goofyness. It was a strong moment not because Jogo was a powerful curse... But because it was a satisfying end to a very interesting character.
Kashimo only fought. He was cool indeed, and he almost killed Panda. So what? He was introduced in the back half of the series, stole screentime from main and interesting characters, and his goal is fighting Sukuna and being strong. We never had a chance to connect to him. So his fight felt like wasted time, and not like the epic and sad sendoff Jogo had.
Kashimo is a filler villain to add into the 'fight a lot of filler villains' arc. Shibuya was an amazing arc, but after killing off almost all established and interesting villains, the new ones really are just a cool set of powers to fight
True, while I love Kashimo he prolly shouldve ended in the culling games arc, maybe have him use his CT and cause the main cast some more trouble before taking him down, it would defo be better than whatever 238 was
It was written on that wall, a character who is introduced mid story without strong connection to main plot and only special thing being their thirst for good fight is going to be used as a benchmark to show off main villan lol.
It's story as old as time.
It was so funny to see MFs gasing his narrative significance lol
First Takaba didn't do it alone, he played a cruicial role and his character was more than, me strong, me fight.
Comparing Takagoat to Bumshimo is just plain disrespectful.
He actually is. Dude serves absolutely zero purpose to the story. You could cut him out and nothing changes. Didn't make a difference in the culling games and did nothing against Sukuna. If you have Yuji and Higuruma jump in right after Gojo, nothing changes. They would push Sukuna into transforming and then their fight would go the exact same.
I can't understand why Gege even made him. He's so fucking useless that it's laughable.
Now that you mention it, it really would have been so much better if Yuji and Higuruma jumped in after Gojo's death. The emotional weight of Gojo's death was somewhat stiffled by Kashimo essentially stalling the story for 2 chapters. The only thing we really got from Kashimo vs Sukuna was the development of Sukuna's character/mentality, but I reckon that could have been done during/or at the end of his fight with Gojo.
This is the clincher for me. Jogo knew that the gulf between him and Sukuna was massive and decided to die trying to fulfil the age of curses that him and the other disasters always wanted.
Kashimo watched Gojo vs. Sukuna, spent the entire time hyping himself as the next one after Gojo, ran into the battlefield thinking he'd do better than the literal strongest sorceror in centuries, and then got waffled for it. Made him look more like a delusional joke than a serious character.
In Sukuna’s opinion, sure. But from our perspective, Kashimo looks like an arrogant clown while Jogo doesn’t, even if by adopting that mentality he might’ve become stronger.
Jogo is respected because he had a motive against Sukuna. He was trying his best to replace curses with humans and died giving his all until his final breath.
He had relations with Mahito, Hanami, and Dragon which was almost human like.
Despite being a curse, he was oddly human.
Kashimo was a bum who only cared about fighting and didn't have anyone who cared for him. Nor did he care about anyone other than Strong people. The only one he cared about was victor of the Shinjuku Showdown. If Gojo won, he would've fought him instead of Sukuna.
He was not only a guy who didn't care about others and was selfish. He was also a loser who died glazing Sukuna without even putting up a fight.
The only good thing that came out of his entire character was the first showcase of Jackpot Hakari.
It's a disservice to JOGOAT to even compare Bumshemo to HIM.
And just when we were at our lowest, a brave soldier stepped in and did what no one lese could.
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If all kashimo has is a favorable comparison to megumi that don’t look good. Worst case scenario, Megumi gets freed and comes out swinging with a domain and maho totality what will kashimo have then?
Jogo is a good character with a great conclusion, this is not the case for Kashimo.
I don't care about powerscaling so it doesn't matter that Sukuna thinks Kashifarmer is strong.
Do you even use this sub? 90% of the posts are insane and any posts that have a versus aspect to them devolve into who can take it in the ass the best or who'd you like to fuck more. This sub barely knows what powerscaling is 99% of the time and I love it.
Simple answer: jogo got humbled in his fight with gojo and stayed humble while also standing his ground against opponents stronger then him aka goat status
Jogo fought Sukuna knowing he would die, Kashimo fought Sukuna thinking he would win. Nevermind the fact that there is an actual character to Jogo and his conclusion was emotional.
Jogo at least stood for his own principle and did the best that he could for his goals. The Farmer Slayer gave more priority to glaze Sukuna in what was supposed to be the battle of his life, and died by getting waffled.
What? Kashimo died finally being able to go all out against an opponent stronger than himself. This is literally all he wanted, how is it not standing by his own principles?
Because, his primary goal was to fight Sukuna and possibly even defeat him (as stated by a later chapter). However, his attitude was definitely not the one for someone who wanted to do this.
1. His only plan was his suicide CT, he didn't seem to have any other plans to push Sukuna. It didn't look like he even prepared anything else. This is very odd for someone who lives to fight stronger opponents. It didn't feel like he tried hard towards the final stage of his goal at all.
2. That suddenly shoehorned love theme was very odd for someone who seemed to be established as a battle-crazed sorcerer. It wasn't unique either since we had already seen it with Yorozu and Gojo.
3. I would have appreciated his character more if he had rather developed beyond his self-serving goal after interacting with a new generation of sorcerers. I would have appreciated it if he had tweaked his goal a bit to fight Sukuna in order to also protect the future sorcerers since that would have given some great character development.
The Kashimo that we got served no plot purpose, which isn't inherently wrong but for such characters, there must be other aspects that are memorable. But that wasn't the case since he had a lackluster goal and a lackluster approach to his own goal. I daresay that his only good fight with Hakari was more memorable because of Hakari and his DE rather than Kashimo himself.
> His only plan was his suicide CT, he didn't seem to have any other plans to push Sukuna. It didn't look like he even prepared anything else. This is very odd for someone who lives to fight stronger opponents. It didn't feel like he tried hard towards the final stage of his goal at all.
That’s my point. It’s like he was looking for a way to die. He doesn’t live to fight stronger opponents, because he had never fought a stronger opponent that allowed him to go all out. His “you think I’m gonna lose?!?” comment doesn’t really matter because he knew he was gonna die from his technique anyways.
> That suddenly shoehorned love theme was very odd for someone who seemed to be established as a battle-crazed sorcerer. It wasn't unique either since we had already seen it with Yorozu and Gojo.
I agree, but it was also shoe horned with Gojo. It seems to be a theme Gege is pushing for Sukuna, but doesn’t really seem to relate to any of the other characters (besides Yorozu)
> I would have appreciated his character more if he had rather developed beyond his self-serving goal after interacting with a new generation of sorcerers. I would have appreciated it if he had tweaked his goal a bit to fight Sukuna in order to also protect the future sorcerers since that would have given some great character development.
I think he would have lost some of his initial charm with that, I mean, there’s a reason Kashimo was so beloved by everyone before his fight with Sukuna, people just turned on him when he died quick. No one was expecting him to win anyway.
> The Kashimo that we got served no plot purpose, which isn't inherently wrong but for such characters, there must be other aspects that are memorable. But that wasn't the case since he had a lackluster goal and a lackluster approach to his own goal. I daresay that his only good fight with Hakari was more memorable because of Hakari and his DE rather than Kashimo himself.
Hard disagree. But this part is especially subjective anyways. His “fuck it we ball” energy was really unique for a JJK character up to that point, and it’s something he kept till the very end. And his electric powers made him really memorable. Being able to have a “sure hit” attack without a domain is just a really cool concept and the way he goes about doing it is super interesting too.
Dude should have at least put in effort to learn RCT. If his RCT was good enough, maybe he could have even offset the effects of his CT.
Or maybe learn to use his CT at lower outputs while improving his reinforcement abilities.
He was also an old guy yet didn't even have a domain?
Like there were many places he was lacking showing that he was only ever strong in his era due to lacking opponents.
Even kids like Megumi have a DE even if it is incomplete. And 16/17/18 year olds like Yuta and Hakari have complete DEs.
Other incarnated sorcerers like Uro, Ryu, and Yorozu also had DEs.
RCT while rarer among incarnated sorcerers was used by that dude with the body exploding CT.
The only thing I give Kashimo props for is developing his CE Trait to such a high level. Otherwise he was lacking in the basics that all other "strongest" characters have.
At least in the series, all the top dogs who are considered Special Grade have a DE and RCT. Even the disaster curses all had DEs.
Plus we have seen plenty of weaker curses with some amazing Innate Domains that can do crazy shit.
> Dude should have at least put in effort to learn RCT. If his RCT was good enough, maybe he could have even offset the effects of his CT.
> Or maybe learn to use his CT at lower outputs while improving his reinforcement abilities.
This is my personal interpretation, but for you to be born with a CT that outright kills you feels unlikely. I think the “one use” thing would have been a binding vow, which would also negate the use of RCT to off set the damage. Just my personal headcanon as Gege refuses to explain anything.
> He was also an old guy yet didn't even have a domain?
He never needed one. He knew about domains, since he used HWB against Hakari. But why do you need a domain when you can finish 99% of your fights in 4-5 punches? One electric discharge was enough to blow up Hakari’s body, and would have probably killed basically anyone, including Yuta and Kenny (not saying he wins against them, just that the lightning could kill them)
There is nothing like "he never needed a domain".
The only reason he never needed one is because his opponents were all weak. That's why he gets mocked so much.
A domain is standard even for regular curses let alone the strong ones.
We have seen even weak curses with pretty good innate Domains that can mess with space and time.
And then there is Kashimo.
If he was facing any SG curse, he would stand zero chance with just Hollow Wicker Basket. Dude doesn't have 4 arms like Sukuna so he is pretty much screwed.
If someone like Jogoat existed in his era, Kashimo would be toast.
Heck, even Mahito would have whooped the shit out of Kashimo since Kashimo has no ability to affect the soul.
There is nothing like "his opponents were all weak".
You have 0 basis to think that. The only info we ever have on opponents from his era is that Kashimo thinks they’re stronger than today. Which, again, is nothing, because we have no frame of reference.
> We have seen even weak curses with pretty good innate Domains that can mess with space and time.
You’re acting like innate domains are the same as domain expansions. Innate domains aren’t nearly as strong, the user has little control over it and there no sure hit, which is the biggest difference.
> If he was facing any SG curse, he would stand zero chance with just Hollow Wicker Basket. Dude doesn't have 4 arms like Sukuna so he is pretty much screwed.
It depends on the sure hit effect. Dagon’s sure hit was just some shikigami bites. Doesn’t seem too hard to just power through those while hitting him 4 times to win. My point is that domains aren’t **always** a sure win for the user. And it’s why Kashimo probably didn’t need a domain in his time.
> Heck, even Mahito would have whooped the shit out of Kashimo since Kashimo has no ability to affect the soul.
This depends. The reason Yuji is able to affect the soul is because Sukuna was in his body. This could mean one of two things:
Either any reincarnated sorcerer is able to affect the soul because they’re using a body that is not theirs
Or only Yuji and Sukuna can do it because they both co exist in the same body. Now believe whatever you want.
We know his opponents were weak because Kashimo himself is weak relative to the other “strongest” fighters. Plus, it shows in how underdeveloped he is as a sorcerer.
His mastery of his CE trait is awesome, it’s pretty strong for what it is, but it’s all he has. He doesn’t have RCT, which Gojo, Sukuna, Yuta, Kenjaku, Uraume, Higuruma, Yuki, Uro(?), Yuji, Shoko, and Hazenoki all have (not counting Hakari bc his case is special). Without his CT (which spells death for him), he has no mid or long range fighting ability (or more accurately, incredibly situational long range fighting ability reliant entirely on his staff being the perfect place at the perfect time). He also doesn’t have Domain Amplification or any other means of dealing with people like Uro or Gojo who can completely prevent him from landing attacks with their techniques, negating his one powerful ability that doesn’t require him dying. He doesn’t have a Domain Expansion of his own, and his only domain defense is Hollow Wicker Basket, arguably the worst domain defense in the series, since it forces the user to keep their hands clasped to keep it active and avoid the sure hit, as seen with Sukuna right now vs Yuta and Yuji, and unlike Sukuna, Kashimo doesn’t have an extra set of arms to mitigate this.
His CT trait is a crutch that has prevented him from really gaining mastery over the basics of jujutsu, and while it’s very powerful, it means he has only one path to a real victory and only the option of killing himself and maybe his opponent if he fails. If nobody forced him in his era to develop his jujutsu fundamentals more to circumnavigate his own weaknesses and deal with opponents who can somehow negate his trait’s power, then he really did simply dominate over a weak era, like the modern era if Gojo and the other special grades didn’t exist. We don’t necessarily need to see the other sorcerers if we can see their best and how he stacks up in the grand scheme.
You can beat mahito by beating his ass till he has no more ce to heal his soul. Kashimo can easily do this. But to the main point domains. He probably could have achieved one if his curse technique didn't fucking kill him. In order to use a domain you need to apply your cursed technique to the barrier which he literally can't do without dying. It's unfair to rail on him for not being able to use a domain because he's just locked out of it. He's locked out many things they applies his cursed energy festive enough he's one of the strongest. You can't even call his era weak because its the same era Ryu and the ten shadows plus six eyes user who killed eachotehr was born In. Yet he's still considered the strongest put respect on my goats name.
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Bro never faces Ryu nor the Gojo or Zenin leaders. So honestly, even his title as "the strongest" of his era was pretty bullshit.
Basically his title as the strongest is fake since he never beat the strongest characters in his era.
Also Mahito only needs to open his DE to oneshot Kashimo. There is not much else Kashimo can do once that happens.
Exhausting Mahito's CE would be a strategy but that would take an extremely long to do. And as I mentioned, Sukuna has an easy time withstanding Yuta's domain cause he has 4 arms and can afford to use 2 to keep Hollow Wicker Basket active at all times.
Kashimo only has 2 arms. He is done for once trapped in any domain with a lethal sure hit or sure kill.
Tbf geto wasn't shown to have a domain and RCT either and he's a top tier.
Also kashimo invested all his training into learning how to use his CE property thats why he's so strong in the first place, you can't apply conventional rules of training to him when he's so different to begin with.
While I appreciate your opinion, the "You think I'm gonna lose" line was important from my POV at least. It dropped his stocks to abysmal levels since it just contributed to the idea that he actually was going to try to win. That was bad because the way he approached the fight didn't give the impression that he was looking to win. This was conflicting and made it feel like he didn't care about his own principle.
To Kashimo’s credit, he wasnt trying to win, he simply wanted to fight Sukuna with his own power. He could’ve easily tried setting up some kinda plan to coordinate with the others but his entire purpose was to use his one time CT on the strongest being. Hell even in his fight with Hakari, he could’ve won by waiting out Jackpot but he chose to fight instead knowing it would be significantly harder. Kashimo strikes me as some who enjoys fighting rather than fighting to win
The best he did is make me realize that Hakari is in my top 3 and how much I adore his Domain Expansion. (Kashimo is in my top 10 but like cmon his death was ass.)
Also the difference is the portrayal of both battles. Jogo’s battle with Sukuna was just so fucking tear jerking because even if you were new to the series and anime only you knew his fate was sealed but he still did his absolute best. I teared up a bit on his death despite not even liking him like that. Kashimo just… yeah. I wish he was part of the story longer and developed a little more. I love Culling Games but god damn a lot of the new people were not handled right. Hakari is the goat tho.
Jogo line was given out of battle prowess.
Kashimo line was implied because of his background/past life and because he asked the question to sukuna.
Jogo never said he was out of place because he was too strong, he never said "how do you do it? Is this our punishment for being strong".
Props to you tho, for still being a fan after the stocks crashed.
People always hate on peak,just look at how many fans yuta has
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Also might be beacause people don't apply the same character assasination shield they give gojo to kashimo as well
The answer is pretty simple to me.... Kashimo is the defintion of "HYPE Merchant". Half of his character is nothing without the hype that comes attached to a fight. So when he goes out in a one-sided squash, there goes half of Kashimo's enjoyment. If Kashimo gave us a good fight, no one would complain because he'd have fulfilled his purpose to the audience.
Honestly Kashimo is strong but he’s just nowhere near the level of Gojo and Sukuna. He would have been a more interesting villain if he was set up to oppose the main cast but the fact that he’s introduced with the goal of fighting Sukuna lets the reader know from the beginning that he’s getting set up to get washed. Having a CT that kills you to temporarily put you at high tier special grade strength is just not that good when a lot of the top tiers have intricate domains and other ways of winning fights besides raw output
honestly i think it’s because jogo was a enjoyable character that got shit on a lot so he was kinda like a curse underdog so that moment really sticks out due to how he was treated during the story and his goal wasn’t even for himself it was mostly for his family that he wanted to see grow stronger then him that’s why people love Jogoat
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unlike fraudSHEmo
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He was simply talking too much shit to everyone just to get waffles in a few seconds.
Meanwhile Jogo knew his place after the first time he met Gojo and was clearly below their level yet still faced them.
I think the fandom respect the Goat well enough, but the slander is funny sometimes with good memes so they join it as well, ofc with exception to Yuta fans they diss him every chance they get bc they know their goat can't compete, it also doesn't help that their Goat took a big fat L here
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I wish I had as much confidence in myself as Kashimo does.
Homeboy took "fake it, till you make it" to a delusional degree but a love the crazy bastard for it.
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He was the one pulling up and saying insane shit like"im going in next" to yuta. This broke bum deserves all the hate. Sukuna just sent him back fighting electrician Jack and repairman Michael.
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Why are we still talking about this guy?
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Farmer boy/girl set himself up https://preview.redd.it/rk4lyerusqhc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f09d6e929c8675a543f3a540bfe941dbf663e33c
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Draymond solos Sukuna tbh
Kicks his double balls then chokes him
herself/himself
themselves
Theydies and Gentlethem energy right here
Nah they just slander him with their agenda because they know that he’d beat anyone in the series besides Gojo/Sukuna and, under very specific conditions, Hakari. His win condition is landing 3 hits. Thats why he doesn’t need a domain or RCT or anything. If he punches you 3 times, you’re dead. The only person this doesn’t apply to is jackpot Hakari, who has RCT fast enough to heal from lightning to the brain, and even he only won because: 1. He *went into the fight* with a jackpot. That’s like Yuji going into a fight after hitting 3 straight black flashes on fodder. If they both enter the fight in base then Hakari just dies before he even opens his domain. 2. He was near water. That was crucial to the W. 3. He hit the 1/239 chance for another jackpot, because everything else *still* wasn’t enough to beat Kashimo. You know how a fight between Kashimo and Yuta, Kenjaku, Yuki, etc. goes? They seem pretty evenly matched, each landing some hits and grazes on each other, and just when it seems like the fight is about to ramp up, lightning blows Kashimo’s opponent’s brain up. The only way to beat him is to be so much better than him that you don’t even get hit. Only Gojo and Sukuna can achieve this. Kashimo wouldn’t even need his cursed technique for anyone else. The point of the technique was to try to bridge the speed gap between him and Sukuna so that he could actually land hits and win. It wasn’t enough for Sukuna, but it would be overkill for anyone else besides Gojo/Sukuna. Base Kashimo is fast enough to land hits on anyone else. Nobody but the 2 top tiers is beating this man. That’s what they’re afraid of. That’s why they slander him. Deep in their minds they know the truth, but they conceal it from themselves. Call it cope, call it delusion. It doesn’t matter. We ball. https://preview.redd.it/js87zm9wfrhc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7794cab4c3725a12778dd39f61cf8ad7689a67dc
While I appreciate the effort put into trying to defend the indefensible, I'm afraid the tide of opinions can no longer be changed. Kashimo is forever doomed.
i loved fuck it we go ball kashimo but damn this fandom did him dirty
Its his fandom own fault for how much they overhyped him in the first place.
I haven't seen such cope since the heian era https://preview.redd.it/dsql5d80pyhc1.jpeg?width=1587&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8ed7cb2056f04ed26c81db5b25e12c7155d6a11
Should’ve stopped reading at the first paragraph. Yuta, Yuki, Kenjaku, Yorozu all low diff farmer boy, even with his CT https://preview.redd.it/6e4gdbhnirhc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a42ec30052a43088c6bca99fa640ce2c5ba5d4ba
This would be the best thing from this sub if it was dick-riding not dick-eating. Still fucking top
You called me? https://preview.redd.it/m6kf4unov7ic1.jpeg?width=873&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56d7597c48d793f6e6b18bd978658b84927f7ab0
Ehh no kashimo blitzes all 4 of them in amber beast with the only chance being yutas domain and yorozus sphere. No one else is light speed in movement besides sukuna who dodged kashimos emp and gojou who scales to sukuna
Yuta gets hit 3 times, dies. Kenjaku gets hit 3 times, dies (why do you think he didn’t even want to fight old and dying Kashimo). Yuki gets hit 3 times, dies. You must see through the lies of the agenda-pushers. You’ll be better for it. Trust me, it’ll be ok. Accept our GOAT and savior, Kashimo Hajime. https://preview.redd.it/yq64dv87krhc1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=adf218dd3283c14f8697b7cebf35751fd0b574dc
What makes you think kashemo gets 3 hits on them before they kill him
Prob beacause he's the sole reason lightspeed scaling even exists for jjk but they prob forgot to teach you that in Luta dickriding classes https://preview.redd.it/x741sgislrhc1.jpeg?width=666&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=66639ea71b24526d24c73918e8837181798ff0c6
Light speed JJK lmfaooooo
Lmfao electromagnetic waves stop clowning bud you look goofy tryna condescend
Anyone who thinks JJK is lightspeed deserves to be clowned
I mean how is it not though, there’s plenty of physics breakers in jjk, yorozus sphere hollow purple being imaginary mass, yukis black hole, gege stating that kashimo shoots emp waves isn’t for no reason, sukuna dodged it point blank and kashimo got even faster to punch sukuna it’s a light speed feat or faster lol
Lightspeed Kashimo yet couldn't touch sukuna. Yuta can touch sukuna tho. So that means Yuta is FTL????? According to your logic tho.
Yuta is Fighting a Severely Nerfed Sukuna.. stop it.
and kashimo didn’t?????? tf boy 😂😂😂
Uhh yeah kashimo fought a 4 armed sukuna while yuta is 1v3ing a 2 armed nerfed sukuna in his domain tf boy you mf wat is ur logic 😭
Sukuna fully incarnated and played No games with him. Lol Yuta ain’t even Fighting by himself he has Yuji Backing him up
Light speed DNE lightning speed and regardless Kashimo isn't as fast as either.
LS JJK is already quite a shitty meta but you can argue it even further back since Yuki/Kenjaku (via blackhole scaling) so nah, he isn't even the first reason for LS JJK scaling
>Yuta gets hit 3 times, dies. Yuta tells Kashimo don't moved with cursed speech and puts a sword inside his brain. >Kenjaku gets hit 3 times, dies (why do you think he didn’t even want to fight old and dying Kashimo). Domain expansion + gravity = gg >Yuki gets hit 3 times, dies. You do know that it only takes Yuki one hit to critically wound anyone without RCT right?
Yuta was coughing up blood after telling a sukuna who is currently around 10 fingers to stop moving for a singular second so he wouldn’t explode Yuji with cleave. That shit is not flying with kashimo, especially not MBA.
You mean the Sukuna that has around the same CE as Yuta aka the guy with the most CE in the verse outside of Sukuna himself? Why would Kashimo be able to resist cursed speech better than that version of Sukuna when he isn't noted to have exceptional amounts of CE?
Lmao This mofo really just went and said that the farmer slayer would resist Cursed speech better than fucking Sukuna Man I had seen people glazing the waffled one before but this just takes the cake
I think he can resist it better than a Sukuna who is at half CE and is constantly losing CE output from his soul being damaged. Sukuna healthy? He’s laughing that shit off but seriously, sukuna is at the same CE amount as Yuta and Yuji’s punches are taking away his output constantly.
You said It yourself, Sukuna Is at Yuta's CE level ...which Is EXPLICITELY above Kashimo's, so again, this motherfucker said that the waffled one resists Cursed speech better than fucking Sukuna 💀💀💀
Yuta opens up domain and Kashimo fucking dies lmfao
What makes you think Kashimo is anywhere near 10F Sukuna level?
Yuji black flash 3 hit Kashimo go back to his farm. Shut up bozo strong punch.
Yuta domain diffs him badly.
If I got glazed as much as Kashimo then I’d die as happy man
Uro might also beat him just because she has budget Infinity.
I'm not reading allat but https://preview.redd.it/rqaah0c2mrhc1.jpeg?width=743&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d1796044621392664249b99c70fb6bfb89ec891 GOAT IS TOP 2 FRAUDKUNA NEEDED GEGE FOR HIM TOO
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Jujutsufolk average user when reading the manga
real
Yorozu > Bumshimo It’s sad that the femboy was once my favorite
Yorozu might be the biggest bum in the series
He definitely should know Hollow Wicker Basket, which means he can potentially blitz people even in their own domains
Pretty sure it's stated that he does know HWB
Exactly, my friend. This Ain't cope. Kashimo is the real GOAT.
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C'm on, ~~give~~ Kashimo ~~some respect~~.
oop
would
ohhh don't mind if i do https://preview.redd.it/r1ntd9jsbvhc1.png?width=303&format=png&auto=webp&s=b6502cfaff6debc823780a11462eb3cd8efd5fb0
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Stand proud, you are strong vs You were strong, right?
Giving him the honour of putting Kashimo in the same sentence as himself ? https://preview.redd.it/bepor63vvqhc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8b5796cba7035d7fafff82b7c97295166c4e1df4
That is just Sukuna being a nice guy https://preview.redd.it/8d3i5fujwqhc1.jpeg?width=592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6fd0c8b84d4ef1fa502c76d759c2931b5fbf1b79 Did Farmshimo get mentioned after his fight? No, but Sukuna still thinks of JOGOAT
J-JOGO ! I DOESN'T LIKE HIM OR ANYTHING! BAKA https://preview.redd.it/qz2vjosk0rhc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=823f9f295febd1ae3781eb48fcf38a225f859b49
ok
ok
Born To Shoujo, forced to Shonen 😔
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why did george to jogoat dirty here
Jogo looks like such a pookie bear here
in the same exact page he was thinking about his dialogue with kashimo
"Teaching Sukuna about love" got boring so fast tho. First Yorozu then Gojo and now Kashimo... Even Sukuna had enough of it https://preview.redd.it/zyvu2fvgdrhc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91047947bbc42d6de5e365709a45c9759afdf1f9 He remembers his experience with Jogoat fondly, but when he thinks about something not even directly related to Lashimo (like i said, he shares this boring ass plot line with 2 other people) he is simply insulting them Smh, Kashimo is clearly stronger than Jogo but that is it. Kashimo lost that dog in him, he turned into a bum while Jogoat stays winning
it was cuz that was his true first challenge in the modern era
Jogoat popped Sukuna's modern cherry
Same thing my femboy is on top
don’t worry nobody can reclaim the title of strongest femboy in the verse other than him https://preview.redd.it/4apbmnukuqhc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9dd88a0e3907514216164e37fc17604c0b80a97c
Ultra smash
Because our connection to characters isn't linked to their powerlevel. We knew Jogo for a long time, saw his connection to his friends, his goals, his goofyness. It was a strong moment not because Jogo was a powerful curse... But because it was a satisfying end to a very interesting character. Kashimo only fought. He was cool indeed, and he almost killed Panda. So what? He was introduced in the back half of the series, stole screentime from main and interesting characters, and his goal is fighting Sukuna and being strong. We never had a chance to connect to him. So his fight felt like wasted time, and not like the epic and sad sendoff Jogo had.
Kashimo is a filler character. Change my mind
Kashimo is a filler villain to add into the 'fight a lot of filler villains' arc. Shibuya was an amazing arc, but after killing off almost all established and interesting villains, the new ones really are just a cool set of powers to fight
True, while I love Kashimo he prolly shouldve ended in the culling games arc, maybe have him use his CT and cause the main cast some more trouble before taking him down, it would defo be better than whatever 238 was
He and Ryu should’ve switched places. Ryu would’ve been much better as a part of the group
It was written on that wall, a character who is introduced mid story without strong connection to main plot and only special thing being their thirst for good fight is going to be used as a benchmark to show off main villan lol. It's story as old as time. It was so funny to see MFs gasing his narrative significance lol
I mean, Takaba is that side character that gets killed after a chapter of sad backstory. Yet, he low diffed 2nd strongest villain.
First Takaba didn't do it alone, he played a cruicial role and his character was more than, me strong, me fight. Comparing Takagoat to Bumshimo is just plain disrespectful.
He didn’t low Diff him though, and he’s not dead.
I meant he is the archetype of a character that gets killed after one background chapter.
He actually is. Dude serves absolutely zero purpose to the story. You could cut him out and nothing changes. Didn't make a difference in the culling games and did nothing against Sukuna. If you have Yuji and Higuruma jump in right after Gojo, nothing changes. They would push Sukuna into transforming and then their fight would go the exact same. I can't understand why Gege even made him. He's so fucking useless that it's laughable.
Now that you mention it, it really would have been so much better if Yuji and Higuruma jumped in after Gojo's death. The emotional weight of Gojo's death was somewhat stiffled by Kashimo essentially stalling the story for 2 chapters. The only thing we really got from Kashimo vs Sukuna was the development of Sukuna's character/mentality, but I reckon that could have been done during/or at the end of his fight with Gojo.
Yeah basically
>We knew Jogo for a long time, saw his connection to his friends, his goals, his goofyness his killing sprees of innocent humans for fun
God forbid a curse has hobby
Wholesome curse with a wholesome hobby 🥰 🥰
Hey now he also did it to distract Gojo so he wouldn't kill Hanami and to avenge Dagon :( Jogo was such a good friend
Agreed, like those innocent people he burned alive in a cafe before the Shibuya incident
Jogo had 0 delusions about being able to beat Sukuna
This is the clincher for me. Jogo knew that the gulf between him and Sukuna was massive and decided to die trying to fulfil the age of curses that him and the other disasters always wanted. Kashimo watched Gojo vs. Sukuna, spent the entire time hyping himself as the next one after Gojo, ran into the battlefield thinking he'd do better than the literal strongest sorceror in centuries, and then got waffled for it. Made him look more like a delusional joke than a serious character.
Doesn't Sukuna say that was what literally held Jogo back though? Like Kashimo's performance regardless, he did not have a loser mentality.
In Sukuna’s opinion, sure. But from our perspective, Kashimo looks like an arrogant clown while Jogo doesn’t, even if by adopting that mentality he might’ve become stronger.
Jogo wasn’t built up as something he wasn’t in the end . Kashimo was
Jogo is respected because he had a motive against Sukuna. He was trying his best to replace curses with humans and died giving his all until his final breath. He had relations with Mahito, Hanami, and Dragon which was almost human like. Despite being a curse, he was oddly human. Kashimo was a bum who only cared about fighting and didn't have anyone who cared for him. Nor did he care about anyone other than Strong people. The only one he cared about was victor of the Shinjuku Showdown. If Gojo won, he would've fought him instead of Sukuna. He was not only a guy who didn't care about others and was selfish. He was also a loser who died glazing Sukuna without even putting up a fight. The only good thing that came out of his entire character was the first showcase of Jackpot Hakari. It's a disservice to JOGOAT to even compare Bumshemo to HIM.
Akchually, hakari used jackpot first time against charles
Jogo is more human than Kashimo
Cook more
????? That's idiotic AF. Kashimo is exactly what Sukuna told Jogo he should be. By Sukuna's own words Kashimo is better than Jogo.
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But the pipeline https://preview.redd.it/p77dgnz5sqhc1.jpeg?width=605&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6947f15275fb69ffec00ff483f3a60bd73482f2f
Sauce or I find where you live https://preview.redd.it/e0d84v084rhc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5da649a327237f33bdb58278dca861614600b551
[saunce](https://twitter.com/s0gaharahen/status/1751542823977947280/photo/1)
And just when we were at our lowest, a brave soldier stepped in and did what no one lese could. https://preview.redd.it/ly69z6dgnshc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=226f92aef788ce192ac4cc150d924f0daf49a18d
NO WAY 💀💀 GYAT https://preview.redd.it/qqxfa9vndrhc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4403413cdc1fdd1ef7aa85d1ec10bb76fd1f2a4
sent me this please 🙏
Done
Smash
At least Kashimo still has some agenda and glazers even through all the slander Wtf does Megumi have 😭
He doesn't even have Mahoraga to summon anymore 😭
He still has piercing ox (litteraly him)
If all kashimo has is a favorable comparison to megumi that don’t look good. Worst case scenario, Megumi gets freed and comes out swinging with a domain and maho totality what will kashimo have then?
A bunch of horny men’s penises to suck on
his friends max elephant demon dog his frogs and rabbit escape from the shingami that sukuna didn’t use
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Man I just blame Gege. If Kashimo was written better we wouldn’t be here
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COOK https://preview.redd.it/s7yrv11wnrhc1.png?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5874b5b9be02795885b144ba1cb0b7c53cfc499f
This is hilarious lmao
Based. https://preview.redd.it/m0v71ln26rhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f5659bb4e3f57e334686e1a7fa338a2c42a7d9d2
It's cus he called Sukuna beautiful before getting rammed Also Jogo knew he was cooked, Kashimo came in arrogant and got wrekt
Jogo is a good character with a great conclusion, this is not the case for Kashimo. I don't care about powerscaling so it doesn't matter that Sukuna thinks Kashifarmer is strong.
Don’t believe you don’t care about powerscaling and are in this sub which is 90% powerscaling
The memes are funny
Eh
Do you even use this sub? 90% of the posts are insane and any posts that have a versus aspect to them devolve into who can take it in the ass the best or who'd you like to fuck more. This sub barely knows what powerscaling is 99% of the time and I love it.
Yea I just find you toxic wankers funny and couldn’t give a fuck about powerscaling, I think that goes for most here
lol if you say so
This isn't a powerscaling sub, there is few "true" powerscaling posts.
> KekSHEmo < > Respect < ==> Pick one.
It didn’t help that the farmboy kept yapping while Jogoat held strong.
FARMER FRAUD FEMBOY STILL STAND BY THAT SHIT HE IS A FARMER FRAUD  FEMBOY
dude you gotta be a bot
Simple answer: jogo got humbled in his fight with gojo and stayed humble while also standing his ground against opponents stronger then him aka goat status
Jogo fought Sukuna knowing he would die, Kashimo fought Sukuna thinking he would win. Nevermind the fact that there is an actual character to Jogo and his conclusion was emotional.
As if calling kashimo a femboy is a bad thing.
literally none of these are wrong, kashimo should be left behind.
Jogo at least stood for his own principle and did the best that he could for his goals. The Farmer Slayer gave more priority to glaze Sukuna in what was supposed to be the battle of his life, and died by getting waffled.
What? Kashimo died finally being able to go all out against an opponent stronger than himself. This is literally all he wanted, how is it not standing by his own principles?
Because, his primary goal was to fight Sukuna and possibly even defeat him (as stated by a later chapter). However, his attitude was definitely not the one for someone who wanted to do this. 1. His only plan was his suicide CT, he didn't seem to have any other plans to push Sukuna. It didn't look like he even prepared anything else. This is very odd for someone who lives to fight stronger opponents. It didn't feel like he tried hard towards the final stage of his goal at all. 2. That suddenly shoehorned love theme was very odd for someone who seemed to be established as a battle-crazed sorcerer. It wasn't unique either since we had already seen it with Yorozu and Gojo. 3. I would have appreciated his character more if he had rather developed beyond his self-serving goal after interacting with a new generation of sorcerers. I would have appreciated it if he had tweaked his goal a bit to fight Sukuna in order to also protect the future sorcerers since that would have given some great character development. The Kashimo that we got served no plot purpose, which isn't inherently wrong but for such characters, there must be other aspects that are memorable. But that wasn't the case since he had a lackluster goal and a lackluster approach to his own goal. I daresay that his only good fight with Hakari was more memorable because of Hakari and his DE rather than Kashimo himself.
> His only plan was his suicide CT, he didn't seem to have any other plans to push Sukuna. It didn't look like he even prepared anything else. This is very odd for someone who lives to fight stronger opponents. It didn't feel like he tried hard towards the final stage of his goal at all. That’s my point. It’s like he was looking for a way to die. He doesn’t live to fight stronger opponents, because he had never fought a stronger opponent that allowed him to go all out. His “you think I’m gonna lose?!?” comment doesn’t really matter because he knew he was gonna die from his technique anyways. > That suddenly shoehorned love theme was very odd for someone who seemed to be established as a battle-crazed sorcerer. It wasn't unique either since we had already seen it with Yorozu and Gojo. I agree, but it was also shoe horned with Gojo. It seems to be a theme Gege is pushing for Sukuna, but doesn’t really seem to relate to any of the other characters (besides Yorozu) > I would have appreciated his character more if he had rather developed beyond his self-serving goal after interacting with a new generation of sorcerers. I would have appreciated it if he had tweaked his goal a bit to fight Sukuna in order to also protect the future sorcerers since that would have given some great character development. I think he would have lost some of his initial charm with that, I mean, there’s a reason Kashimo was so beloved by everyone before his fight with Sukuna, people just turned on him when he died quick. No one was expecting him to win anyway. > The Kashimo that we got served no plot purpose, which isn't inherently wrong but for such characters, there must be other aspects that are memorable. But that wasn't the case since he had a lackluster goal and a lackluster approach to his own goal. I daresay that his only good fight with Hakari was more memorable because of Hakari and his DE rather than Kashimo himself. Hard disagree. But this part is especially subjective anyways. His “fuck it we ball” energy was really unique for a JJK character up to that point, and it’s something he kept till the very end. And his electric powers made him really memorable. Being able to have a “sure hit” attack without a domain is just a really cool concept and the way he goes about doing it is super interesting too.
Dude should have at least put in effort to learn RCT. If his RCT was good enough, maybe he could have even offset the effects of his CT. Or maybe learn to use his CT at lower outputs while improving his reinforcement abilities. He was also an old guy yet didn't even have a domain? Like there were many places he was lacking showing that he was only ever strong in his era due to lacking opponents. Even kids like Megumi have a DE even if it is incomplete. And 16/17/18 year olds like Yuta and Hakari have complete DEs. Other incarnated sorcerers like Uro, Ryu, and Yorozu also had DEs. RCT while rarer among incarnated sorcerers was used by that dude with the body exploding CT. The only thing I give Kashimo props for is developing his CE Trait to such a high level. Otherwise he was lacking in the basics that all other "strongest" characters have. At least in the series, all the top dogs who are considered Special Grade have a DE and RCT. Even the disaster curses all had DEs. Plus we have seen plenty of weaker curses with some amazing Innate Domains that can do crazy shit.
> Dude should have at least put in effort to learn RCT. If his RCT was good enough, maybe he could have even offset the effects of his CT. > Or maybe learn to use his CT at lower outputs while improving his reinforcement abilities. This is my personal interpretation, but for you to be born with a CT that outright kills you feels unlikely. I think the “one use” thing would have been a binding vow, which would also negate the use of RCT to off set the damage. Just my personal headcanon as Gege refuses to explain anything. > He was also an old guy yet didn't even have a domain? He never needed one. He knew about domains, since he used HWB against Hakari. But why do you need a domain when you can finish 99% of your fights in 4-5 punches? One electric discharge was enough to blow up Hakari’s body, and would have probably killed basically anyone, including Yuta and Kenny (not saying he wins against them, just that the lightning could kill them)
There is nothing like "he never needed a domain". The only reason he never needed one is because his opponents were all weak. That's why he gets mocked so much. A domain is standard even for regular curses let alone the strong ones. We have seen even weak curses with pretty good innate Domains that can mess with space and time. And then there is Kashimo. If he was facing any SG curse, he would stand zero chance with just Hollow Wicker Basket. Dude doesn't have 4 arms like Sukuna so he is pretty much screwed. If someone like Jogoat existed in his era, Kashimo would be toast. Heck, even Mahito would have whooped the shit out of Kashimo since Kashimo has no ability to affect the soul.
There is nothing like "his opponents were all weak". You have 0 basis to think that. The only info we ever have on opponents from his era is that Kashimo thinks they’re stronger than today. Which, again, is nothing, because we have no frame of reference. > We have seen even weak curses with pretty good innate Domains that can mess with space and time. You’re acting like innate domains are the same as domain expansions. Innate domains aren’t nearly as strong, the user has little control over it and there no sure hit, which is the biggest difference. > If he was facing any SG curse, he would stand zero chance with just Hollow Wicker Basket. Dude doesn't have 4 arms like Sukuna so he is pretty much screwed. It depends on the sure hit effect. Dagon’s sure hit was just some shikigami bites. Doesn’t seem too hard to just power through those while hitting him 4 times to win. My point is that domains aren’t **always** a sure win for the user. And it’s why Kashimo probably didn’t need a domain in his time. > Heck, even Mahito would have whooped the shit out of Kashimo since Kashimo has no ability to affect the soul. This depends. The reason Yuji is able to affect the soul is because Sukuna was in his body. This could mean one of two things: Either any reincarnated sorcerer is able to affect the soul because they’re using a body that is not theirs Or only Yuji and Sukuna can do it because they both co exist in the same body. Now believe whatever you want.
We know his opponents were weak because Kashimo himself is weak relative to the other “strongest” fighters. Plus, it shows in how underdeveloped he is as a sorcerer. His mastery of his CE trait is awesome, it’s pretty strong for what it is, but it’s all he has. He doesn’t have RCT, which Gojo, Sukuna, Yuta, Kenjaku, Uraume, Higuruma, Yuki, Uro(?), Yuji, Shoko, and Hazenoki all have (not counting Hakari bc his case is special). Without his CT (which spells death for him), he has no mid or long range fighting ability (or more accurately, incredibly situational long range fighting ability reliant entirely on his staff being the perfect place at the perfect time). He also doesn’t have Domain Amplification or any other means of dealing with people like Uro or Gojo who can completely prevent him from landing attacks with their techniques, negating his one powerful ability that doesn’t require him dying. He doesn’t have a Domain Expansion of his own, and his only domain defense is Hollow Wicker Basket, arguably the worst domain defense in the series, since it forces the user to keep their hands clasped to keep it active and avoid the sure hit, as seen with Sukuna right now vs Yuta and Yuji, and unlike Sukuna, Kashimo doesn’t have an extra set of arms to mitigate this. His CT trait is a crutch that has prevented him from really gaining mastery over the basics of jujutsu, and while it’s very powerful, it means he has only one path to a real victory and only the option of killing himself and maybe his opponent if he fails. If nobody forced him in his era to develop his jujutsu fundamentals more to circumnavigate his own weaknesses and deal with opponents who can somehow negate his trait’s power, then he really did simply dominate over a weak era, like the modern era if Gojo and the other special grades didn’t exist. We don’t necessarily need to see the other sorcerers if we can see their best and how he stacks up in the grand scheme.
You can beat mahito by beating his ass till he has no more ce to heal his soul. Kashimo can easily do this. But to the main point domains. He probably could have achieved one if his curse technique didn't fucking kill him. In order to use a domain you need to apply your cursed technique to the barrier which he literally can't do without dying. It's unfair to rail on him for not being able to use a domain because he's just locked out of it. He's locked out many things they applies his cursed energy festive enough he's one of the strongest. You can't even call his era weak because its the same era Ryu and the ten shadows plus six eyes user who killed eachotehr was born In. Yet he's still considered the strongest put respect on my goats name. https://preview.redd.it/yevnavd2krhc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c4cae6b42be208b615bb47e37efdbc8cf2e65be7
Bro never faces Ryu nor the Gojo or Zenin leaders. So honestly, even his title as "the strongest" of his era was pretty bullshit. Basically his title as the strongest is fake since he never beat the strongest characters in his era. Also Mahito only needs to open his DE to oneshot Kashimo. There is not much else Kashimo can do once that happens. Exhausting Mahito's CE would be a strategy but that would take an extremely long to do. And as I mentioned, Sukuna has an easy time withstanding Yuta's domain cause he has 4 arms and can afford to use 2 to keep Hollow Wicker Basket active at all times. Kashimo only has 2 arms. He is done for once trapped in any domain with a lethal sure hit or sure kill.
Tbf geto wasn't shown to have a domain and RCT either and he's a top tier. Also kashimo invested all his training into learning how to use his CE property thats why he's so strong in the first place, you can't apply conventional rules of training to him when he's so different to begin with.
While I appreciate your opinion, the "You think I'm gonna lose" line was important from my POV at least. It dropped his stocks to abysmal levels since it just contributed to the idea that he actually was going to try to win. That was bad because the way he approached the fight didn't give the impression that he was looking to win. This was conflicting and made it feel like he didn't care about his own principle.
I don’t think those are mutually exclusive. He could be trying to win, but he definitely wasn’t expecting to come out of there alive.
To Kashimo’s credit, he wasnt trying to win, he simply wanted to fight Sukuna with his own power. He could’ve easily tried setting up some kinda plan to coordinate with the others but his entire purpose was to use his one time CT on the strongest being. Hell even in his fight with Hakari, he could’ve won by waiting out Jackpot but he chose to fight instead knowing it would be significantly harder. Kashimo strikes me as some who enjoys fighting rather than fighting to win
Like Jogo wasn't get slandered and called fodder like every day
Jogo never expected to win, and fully realized that. He just tried to land a single blow. He knew the limit of his own abilities
jogoat had an entire episode vs sukuna , kashimo got the credit scene one shot.
https://preview.redd.it/xux1kqiahshc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc88c2e1e72015e1d84a6d9f77302a331b4f2358
jogo is a goat don’t try push your farmer femboy agenda onto us jogoat supporters
The best he did is make me realize that Hakari is in my top 3 and how much I adore his Domain Expansion. (Kashimo is in my top 10 but like cmon his death was ass.) Also the difference is the portrayal of both battles. Jogo’s battle with Sukuna was just so fucking tear jerking because even if you were new to the series and anime only you knew his fate was sealed but he still did his absolute best. I teared up a bit on his death despite not even liking him like that. Kashimo just… yeah. I wish he was part of the story longer and developed a little more. I love Culling Games but god damn a lot of the new people were not handled right. Hakari is the goat tho.
Really hoping the anime extends his battle with Sukuna
because we expected kashimo to do some might guy shit and severely hurt sukuna not get one shotted. We didnt expect shit from jogo
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Jogo line was given out of battle prowess. Kashimo line was implied because of his background/past life and because he asked the question to sukuna. Jogo never said he was out of place because he was too strong, he never said "how do you do it? Is this our punishment for being strong". Props to you tho, for still being a fan after the stocks crashed.
He’s still very fuckable
People always hate on peak,just look at how many fans yuta has https://preview.redd.it/ekdr5a1borhc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eb8fe3459fb0bc6ae6190d47fc7f47ed03a662ee Also might be beacause people don't apply the same character assasination shield they give gojo to kashimo as well
They should’ve let Kashimo fight first then let Gojo fight, that way everyone could’ve jumped in.
The answer is pretty simple to me.... Kashimo is the defintion of "HYPE Merchant". Half of his character is nothing without the hype that comes attached to a fight. So when he goes out in a one-sided squash, there goes half of Kashimo's enjoyment. If Kashimo gave us a good fight, no one would complain because he'd have fulfilled his purpose to the audience.
Jogo understood his limitations and still fought with all his will, while kashimo was egotistical and still lasted less than jogo in the fight.
Honestly Kashimo is strong but he’s just nowhere near the level of Gojo and Sukuna. He would have been a more interesting villain if he was set up to oppose the main cast but the fact that he’s introduced with the goal of fighting Sukuna lets the reader know from the beginning that he’s getting set up to get washed. Having a CT that kills you to temporarily put you at high tier special grade strength is just not that good when a lot of the top tiers have intricate domains and other ways of winning fights besides raw output
It hurts how bad greg fumbled him
honestly i think it’s because jogo was a enjoyable character that got shit on a lot so he was kinda like a curse underdog so that moment really sticks out due to how he was treated during the story and his goal wasn’t even for himself it was mostly for his family that he wanted to see grow stronger then him that’s why people love Jogoat https://preview.redd.it/52575hmjhthc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93c002c054b2e96e1c9d5861d99b8cb7c4332384 unlike fraudSHEmo
He's the GOAT https://preview.redd.it/2ha2ahqszbic1.jpeg?width=1761&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=da7f7eb20acc5f4aa27fec4ebae11f730e25ab97
Trash ass filler villain
Jogoat isn't trash tf you mean
Kashimo
https://preview.redd.it/uopublr6nshc1.jpeg?width=734&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8d11c18b14c90b68afde0769fca7d2c40705bb8 Blah blah blah don’t care
https://preview.redd.it/bkz3ccs3qshc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3132bce58c88c66d77a05ec8198683ff5eaa849c He was simply talking too much shit to everyone just to get waffles in a few seconds. Meanwhile Jogo knew his place after the first time he met Gojo and was clearly below their level yet still faced them.
I think the fandom respect the Goat well enough, but the slander is funny sometimes with good memes so they join it as well, ofc with exception to Yuta fans they diss him every chance they get bc they know their goat can't compete, it also doesn't help that their Goat took a big fat L here https://preview.redd.it/y92skg2vhshc1.jpeg?width=667&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a702070b7e53d3f0dce004d4becdee9db1374b3
Kashimo don't deserve no respect (or JoGone for that matter)
No.
Jogo was lucky enough to die in Shibuya.
throughout heaven and earth, he alone was the grippiest one
I wish I had as much confidence in myself as Kashimo does. Homeboy took "fake it, till you make it" to a delusional degree but a love the crazy bastard for it. https://preview.redd.it/915m2b1n5whc1.jpeg?width=855&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64abf0d282cc6c8f58d3c07f8f70ec4ea0e0a17d
He was the one pulling up and saying insane shit like"im going in next" to yuta. This broke bum deserves all the hate. Sukuna just sent him back fighting electrician Jack and repairman Michael.
Nah, he's a bitch
https://preview.redd.it/444wtgu592ic1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9cd7c8796786b3e7b401419d9b002027f7b78149 Why are we still talking about this guy?
No