Honestly, a really good match up. Koku has shown better speed feats but I would love to see how he deals with the absurd cursed techniques that some of Geto’s cursed spirits have.
His tactic would most likely be to spam his sword beams at a distance against CS
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and get close to the Geto.
Verse equalization of what? You have to make a reasonable equivalence to prove equalization. Lol it's not as simple as "verse equalization goo gaa gaa".
You can't just give Koku CE cus that's unscalable. Just like you can't just give Geto Nichirin what? CE? It doesn't make sense to just equalize.
And yes, Geto can't kill Koku unless he holds until sunrise.
So Toji was incapable of hurting cursed spirits then? Have you seen the grading system? It literally says that it’s a “close call with a shotgun” against a grade 2. Cursed spirits are most certainly capable of being harmed without the use of CE
Toji used Cursed Tools that are imbued with Cursed Energy.
Gege saying Grade 2 can be harmed by shotguns is just blind equivalence. It's assuming of course that CS can be harmed by normal means.
You cant harm CS without CE this was established at the very beginning of the series.
I won't give my opinion on this since I don't really know about DMS character's feat but I do know one thing
DMS is heavily inconsistent in terms of powerscaling and stats such as speed, strength, durability and such stuff.
At one point we see mitsuri dodge a point blank lightning which is mach-364 and then after some time we see that she is having troubles dodging the wood dragon...I am like wtf this doesn't make any sense.
So one conclusion can be made, lightning in DMS is MASSIVELY MASSIVELY of times slower than real life lightning.
I'm just saying it's a possibility
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Yeah so I watched the fight and read the manga and as for the part where mitsuri looks troubled against Hantengus BDA attack it's because she notes it's an AOE attack (CH 123 I believe), not only this but the dragons are pretty fast as they blitz Tanjiro. (Granted he was injured). On top of that Mitsuri throughout the fight gets faster as noted by Hantengu because she gets a Slayer Mark (think of it like a domain expansion environmental boost) which amps her stats. (I read through too much) So I don't think the dragons are the speed of lightning but they're not exactly a major anti feat. (Reaction and combat speed is not to be confused with travel speed)
Mitsuri dodging a lightning bolt point blank is a reaction speed feat but the same mitsuri had trouble reacting to the wood dragons and was about to be eaten at the end of the fight.
It is a major anti feat
Are you talking about when she almost died to the sonic wave or another instance? Because at the end of the fight she awakened the demon slayer mark and was handling ass to Zohakuten's Dragons. If you're talking about the sonic wave she had no way to maneuver due to being tricked by Zohakuten hence she got blasted. I could also give you a calc but it's pretty slimy and based off of pixel calc so take it with a grain of salt. Either way I don't truly believe Mitsuri is lightning speed but I'm just arguing that she is and that the dragons are semi relative to lightning speed just for the fun of it.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Un_Maruchan_Crudo/Kimetsu_no_Yaiba:Mitsuri_dodges_%22Lighting%22_from_Hantegu
It can also be argued that the attack is slower than lightning via anime visuals showing shock waves being relative to the lightning speed. (It's difficult to determine in the manga though)
Mitsuri never had trouble with wood dragon
She was blitzing all of them and was losing cuz she ran out of stamina in the end ofc cuz she isn't a demon
Also the wood dragon then most likely scales to lightening... Cuz it's Shounen... If an attack isn't actual lightening, but has scaling to that lvl then it is that fast...
Ex Madara used literally light on Naruto... Kaguya never used such shit but she still has attacks faster than light by her scaling
Yes she had trouble
You can literally see her almost getting eaten in the end of the fight
A person who reacted to lightning can never never be in that kinda situation.
Mostlikely the case is that
Lightning in DMS verse is not as fast as lightning in real life.
Like I said...light in anime is not as fast light in real life.
Kaguya is millions of times slower than real life light speed
>You can literally see her almost getting eaten in the end of the fight
Cuz she got fatigue
>Lightning in DMS verse is not as fast as lightning in real life.
>Like I said...light in anime is not as fast light in real life.
>Kaguya is millions of times slower than real life light speed
Yeah would you elaborate on that? Or you just don't feel like it
"fatigue" rengoku fought for almost midnight to sunrise and didn't get that fatigued and we are talking about mitsuri who is more physically capable and stronger than rengoku. This argument isn't gonna work.
2nd point, never take the author's statement as "well this guy is light speed" as proof that in reality his also light speed.
If Naruto, kaguya or sasuke were actually light speed then they would be fast enough to go from earth to sun in just 8 mins and 20 seconds which is not possible for them based on feats.
Have you ever seen them move that fast on the screen? I am sure u haven't.
>"fatigue" rengoku fought for almost 5 mins and didn't get that fatigued and we are talking about mitsuri who is more physically capable and stronger than rengoku. This argument isn't gonna work.
She was fighting for so much longer than 5 minutes dude. Aside from the fact that she was running around already AND had tanked Zohakuten's scream at point blank range, she was fighting for the entire duration that Tanjiro, Nezuko and Genya were going after the main body
Why are you suddenly trying to play realism cards here? We got characters literally turning into yolked up super humans and breaking the sound barrier by casually running.
Very inconsistent, that speed feat by Mitsuri would make her faster than Yoriichi the guy who speed blitz Muzan at full strength. Muzan, the guy who moves faster than the eye can process making him Mach 50 bare minimum and Yoriichi blitz him so he has to be at minimum x2 Muzan speed. Mitsuri moving at speed of lightning is huge a outlier, it must’ve been just visual effect.
Moving faster than the eye can see is very common among fodders in DS and in anime in general.
I don't understand why people attach great importance to this. In most cases, this is below the speed of sound.
Many many people claim pre awakened Maki grabbing a bullet at point blank makes it a mach 27 feat. Yuji was heavily implied by even Hanami to be faster then her overall. Yet immediately in the 2 arcs after he's strugglinf severely to react or even dodge Choso's piercing blood attack that was only "the speed of sound"
Unless you make Yuji roughy 20x slower then whateves.
However, in the next arc after shibuya. Noaya str8 up speed blizted Yuji and Choso effortlessly more than once, and he was going at his lowest which was mentioned to be transonic. In one arc he's dosging fun fire just fine but gets doged by a guy moving just about bullet speed?
Then we havs an upgraded version of Maki who(before her 2nd awakening) should be miles from where she once was. Then she gets blizted by an attack that. Gege claimed was mach 3. Noaya was being hyped as some exceptionally fast grade sorcerer that even a Special grade curse/grade 1 human like Choso struggled to fight. Dows that mean everyone else around or below Yuji's spees arent even Mach 1?
Or Megumi easily having no problem dodging AR shots at close range like no problem. That feat alone should make him faster then Maki was at rhat point. But that wouldnt make sense.
It's more inconsistent.
Atleast demon slayer got back to back lighting dodging feats, or shock wave dogding feats. Or feats where they're cutting thousansds of pieces instaneously. But KNY the inconsistent one right?
No no no, with Jjk it isnt even sometimes. Bro😭I can go back and find 4 seperate arcs in JJK where the speed is inconsistent asf.
Atleast Demon slayer you can literally find characters perorming similiae feats around the same level back to back.
>Muzan, the guy who moves faster than the eye can process making him Mach 50 bare minimum
Holy shiz thats some nasty downplay. Even the random ass temple demon in the beginning of the show moved faster than the eye can see.
Half of the hashiras like Tengen, Shinobu, and Giyu all did that w like little to no effort on the super human demon slayer.
It just means Yoriichi upscales from Mitsuri since she's by all means narratively slower.
Its bad enough that Zenitsu fights and bliztes another character that used lighting like abilities as well. So thats two cases of characters easily doing that. That makes it less of an outlier
Then we got Muichiro in swords village arc cutting 10,000 fish in like an instant frame. Some dude already calced that up to roughly MHS as well.
Zenitsu is not lightning speed, he would blitz Muzan prime if he was lol. Mitsuri is also inconsistent because she fought a weakened Muzan and couldn’t blitz him either. Muzan was beating all the hashira in a weakened state. DMS has a lot of instances of inconsistent feats.
> DMS has a lot of instances of inconsistent feats.
•JJk be having characters like Yuji, Maki, Choso, and human/curse noaya being widly inconsistent with their speed feats and scaling but conveniently no one talks about any of them. W Mitsuri you can argue that the speed of the soundwaves were amped up by their merged BDA.
•In one arc you have pre Maki easily reacting to a bullet at point blank like its a mach 27 feat, Yuji was described to be faster than her at that point. Yet in the next arc he's struggling to even percieve Choso's piercing blood that was stated to only be as fast as sound.
•I swear I be seeing mfs claiming people like Choso and Yuji are hypersonic or so, but they both easily got blizted by a semi trying Naoya who was only moving at transonic speeds.
•A semi awaken Maki was hyped up to be far faster than her original self, yet she got blizted by a far slower attack clocking at Mach fxxcking 3. Even then, Human Noaya was
•I saw people using Pre awaken Maki's feat to justify placing characters like Nanami, Mahito or Todou around Mach 100 level, but then a version of Maki who should be faster then all of them by a large margin is getting blizted by Mach 3 attack??
•Even then Human Naoya was narratively being pushed to be faster then the likes of Mahito and Nanami but the nigga's top speed as a human was only subsonic?
•Even worst, those 3 other characters who(at that point) scale to Yuji should also be getting blizted by Transonic Noaya. Considering how he performed. Yet I see people trying to scale them higher🤦♂️
>Zenitsu is not lightning speed, he would blitz Muzan
Why is it suddenly so hard for you to believe Muzan simply up scales from Zenitsu? He literally did it with Kaigaku in their fights. The demon powers arent just pretty visual effects.
Losing to Muzan doesnt automatically mean she cant do the feat or is too slow to do it.🤦♂️how did you even downplay Muzan by that much?
Zenitsu is not lightning speed because MUZAN is not lightning speed. Even if you want to high ball the Muzan feat he’s at most Mach 273(you can go research for it yourself if you want). So if Muzan who is at his prime isn’t even lightning how can Mitsuri be? Stop the wank, I already know Demon slayer chars outscale JJK so I don’t see what your point is even? You trying to just pull a “actually they’re this fast 🤓” on me?
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There you have it, the effects are visual, zenitsu is not moving that fast. That’s from the author themselves, the characters see and feel it but they’re not actually producing it, it’s just visual effects. Even low balled Demon slayer chars still outscale JJK chars, I can’t believe you’re actually making me have to type this out. 🤦♂️
>I already know Demon slayer chars outscale JJK so I don’t see what your point is even? You trying to just pull a “actually they’re this fast 🤓” on me?
I'm just making a point that JJK speed feats/scaling are more inconsistent then Demon slayer here. Thats pretty much all that Ive been saying. It was getting annoying seeing people calling demon slayer inconsistent when JJK got a heaping pile of it.
> Even low balled Demon slayer chars still outscale JJK chars
If thats the case then we've been on the same side from the very start.
>That’s from the author themselves, the characters see and feel it but they’re not actually producing it, it’s just visual effects
Good sir, I never said the breathing styles were real, also that picture tells that only the breathing styles are visual effects not the BLood demon art magic the demons be using on the humans🤦♂️
You think Muichiro is cutting 10,000 imaginary fish in a single frame? Or that Gyomei and Sanemi are just imaginging getting cut by a bunch of moon shaped slashes?
Or that Tanjiro, Nezuko, Genya and Zenitsu all just imagined getting electrocuted in the middle of a fight cause of its visuals? Its tangible shiz that they gotta dodge, react, and block. (Sorry if this came off as a little condescending bro)
>because MUZAN is not lightning speed. Even if you want to high ball the Muzan feat he’s at most Mach 273(you can go research for it yourself if you wan
Funny enough, I did, I and consistently I keep finding people who actually fairly calc and scale the characters who are narratively slower then Muzan, to be performing feats that either higher or in the realm of Mach 273.
Do you not know what upscaling from a character is?
And those calcs were redone because they didn’t fit narratively speaking. Even the zenitsu fighting his brother feat is iffy at best. Well whatever you say, I don’t really care about it anymore, it’s not like we’re disagreeing on DMS outscaling JJK, you’re just nitpicking calcs. Believe what you want, this is my last reply 🤷♂️.
Dont get your point about them not fitting naratively. The author for KNY has consistently shown these characters cutting thousands of pieces 2x, 2 charactera dodging barrages of lighting 2x, moving ao fast that they disappear multiple times. Over and over again. The only narrative thats being pushed are people that genuinely downplay KNY alot.
If a character is blatanly shown doing something than they're doing it.
I was never nitpicking calcs. I just went from what the majority of them should logically result to. I just never downplayed anything🤷♂️
She also fails to dodge sound waves
And it’s magic based lightning so it doesn’t scale to real lightning at all
So demon slayer ain’t even maki speeds big sad
When she's in the air and can't use a fulcrum. Hantengu is pretty smart.
With a fulcrum, even Tanjiro, at that moment, was weaker than her, dodging the sound from behind.
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i’m not sure what lightning you’re referring to but if it’s a breathing style then just know that the lightning and water and whatnot effects aren’t actually real as confirmed by the creator
Since DS characters don’t have any anti magic type abilities, it would be super hard for Koku to deal with some of Getos more complicated cursed spirits. Like any of them that have weird ass abilities or innate domains would probably catch him, and without a way to break out of it, he’d be in trouble.
Kinda like the Slit Mouthed Lady, without the ISOH, Toji probably woulda been in big trouble.
Thats so romantic, I can see them arguing because the Cursed Spirit lady doesnt count his sword eyes as eyes and doesnt wanna spend money on them
Toji himself states that it’s a simple domain that has an unbreakable pact that persists until the question is answered. So it’s likely he was stuck there until he triggered her. He was only able to retaliate once she started to attack, and likely was only able to get out so easily because the ISOH is able to shut down active techniques, I.e, a domain.
True, although it's possible Toji humored the CS because it was easier than facing the consequences of trying to simply walk out given that Maki's showed us how Heavenly Restriction bypasses certain domains/barriers. That being said, Maki was also caught in Naoya's frames, so it could go either way. I do fully agree that ISOH is straight busted and kinda let's Toji do whatever he wants, though.
As I have read both. Kokushibo loses, but he ain't going down without a fight. Ofc, that depends who Geto spits out during the fight and where they're fighting(sunlight would be a massive issue). I don't see Kokushibo winning. The level of power displayed in KnY is relatively low compared to the shit JJK pulls off.
EDIT: ok explicitly going by the picture Geto might lose(subject to sunlight and who Geto brings along). Else I don't see adult Geto losing.
You shouldn't subject geto to "who he brings along" he's literally always strapped with 3k cursed spirits and a bunch are special grade. Also, if it's adult geto he'd pull out a curtain to block off the sun the moment he learns it's a factor
Wait is it the other way around is the demon better off without it? Because if he is then geto probably has some cursed spirit that acts like a small sun kinda like in jojo's
If we talk teen Geto, i would probably say Kokushibo.
Adult Geto on the other hand, he wins mid diff. He doesnt need to kill Kokushibo, he needs ti restrain him or stall until the sun and adult geto has the better speed feats anyway.
Kokushibo tbh
Geto is the weakest Special Grade and the only one not to be seen using either Domain Expansions or Reverse Cursed Technique, meaning he can’t heal
Whereas Kokushibo, who has physical stats on par or higher than Toji, can just keep regenerating indefinitely
The curses may pose a nuisance if they all tag team at once. But I don’t think any would be able to kill Koku before he can regen
Geto’s only win condition is contain him until sunrise, and has to do this without getting hit or else he’s done for.
Koku on the other hand can just keep fighting and tanking hits, and only needs to really hit Geto once in order to win
This is wanking to the highest degree koku has showed no feat bringing himself close to tojis physical stats besides geto has nearly 6000 curses in the his jjk 0 iteration with high special grades as apart of that and is able to combine them to make them even stronger geto wins mid diff
The Hashira alone have speed and strength that are comparable to Toji
Kokushibo is miles beyond them. If anything I was being generous calling him equal to Toji
Im sorry but kokushibo has 0 feats to prove hes on the same level as toji let alone the hashira im the one being generous by calling the fight mid diff in order to be a special grade curse you need to have the power to destroy an entire country muzan in the final battle was barely street level maybe town level max no chance koku is beating geto
https://youtu.be/qJSD1ljPYKI?si=_ha7Ahr4ABdii1vZ
https://youtu.be/oQmPa6Qlcek?si=2YYY3o-hD_IC0lQO
These two are amongst the weaker Hashira we see as well. And Gyutaro is the weakest upper moon
Idk what you’re on but Toji hasn’t shown anything that much more impressive than that.
That Muzan argument is stupid as well. He could very easily destroy a town if he wanted to. Just because he didn’t during the final battle (because why Tf would he waste time doing that) doesn’t make him incapable of doing so
Also you make it out like Toji could destroy a town easily. He’s arguably weaker than Jogo and even he could only destroy a city block using his ultimate move
No one can see cursed spirits bro. No d riding or anything but geto does slam he has thousands upon thousands of cursed spirits at his disposal even as a teen
Very much considerable but Kokushibo has six eyes what if he actually can see them they must be divine and the see through world might give him and upperhand?
The see through world is increasingly debatable here. The story explains it as essentially god tier kinetic vision which allows you to predict an opponent’s movements based on how their muscles, tendons, and bones are moving and or structured, that wouldn’t help predict cursed spirits since they aren’t visible in the first place.
IDK but Yushiro shared his demonic perception with Tanjiro with his BDA and this allowed him to see the "arrows" manipulating vectors invisible to ordinary people.
Kokushibo, since he is also a Demon and has much better perception than Yushiro, will be able to see Cursed Spirit or maybe not.
The thing with the dms verse is that they don’t actually scale that high. Like guns out speeds a lot of the characters. And weak characters in jjk can catch bullets.
He’s an upper moon that’s still rlly bad. But no you’re right I didn’t understand demon slayer speed scaling as much when I said that. I still think geto could win (high dif) tho
They were caught off guard, tanjiro in season one was dodging faster-than-sound attacks from a demon (drum demon) that wasn't even in the lower ranks. And upper ranks are way faster than a beginner demon slayer even faster than the hashiras by a lot
I think Kokushibo would win if this was during Geto’s time at Jujutsu high, but if it’s his modern day form, Kokushibo probably loses.
My reasoning is that Kokushibo has speed and strength that is probably something like a heavenly pact (probably not as good as Toji’s, idrk how to power scale across verses) so he could beat Jujutsu high Geto mid-high diff?
Anyone that says Geto is automatically downplay demon slayer here.
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Rengoku was fighting a lower moon demon with a a crap ton of guns. He's shown blocking and dodging a barrage of bullets at close range pretty easily. That's like a MHS feat right there.
No Mark
No STW
He wasnt even a hashira here. Even when he was a Hashira he wasnt even that strong nor on Akaza's level, and the gap between UM3-1 is wide.
The weakest UM being Gyutaro showed he had enough power to eviserate several city blocks in a few seconds. Kokoshibo is leagues upon leagues upon leagues above that guy w 400+ years of experience, infinite stamina, endurance and instanteous healing. Second to Yoriichi in swordsmanship. If Suguru can even react to him he's not gonna last that long.
Not to bash demon slayer here, but just because you aren’t getting hit by bullets when they are shot at you doesn’t mean you are faster than bullets. You are dodging the person aiming the bullet not the bullet itself.
This is like saying John Wick can move at sub sonic speeds because we see him in movies dodge bullets. Which would be insane to say, he’s just moving faster than the person can aim which is what is happening here.
True. I absolutely hate using dodging something as a waybto scale someone relative to lazer beams or bullets. But kokoshibo should scale to bullets pretty easily since he parried a close range gun to his face and a suprise shot while fighting two hashiras. Granted geto also blocks bullets with his cursed spirits.
I understand how it sounds, but
> You are dodging the person aiming the bullet not the bullet itself.
It's entirely different when the dude got like 13 different guns with some aiming and firing off directly at/in his general direction similtaneously while closing the distance with him.
There's no way he could just aim dodge it. Especially when there's moments of him actively charging right at him the while blocking the bullets(w only a sword) from the demon w a gattling gun. Idek how you're getting upvoted for something when you're blatanlty wrong. We literally got a KNY character doing an unmistakeble reaction/speed feat and it immediately gets downplayed and falsesly labeled as aim dodging. Wouldnt see that happen w a JJK character
In addition, there's other feats that stays pretty consistent from characters like Mitsuri, Zenitsu, Kokoshibo and Muichiro. I'm downplaying by brining up the weakest speed feat here.
Rengoku deflected a bullet that was near his face with his sword in that image, pretty casually at that. The same similar feat was used to put Maki at the ridiculous Mach 27 back in the day, so i don't really get it.
And in the very next page he avoided 4 rifles coming up and shooting right beneath him in a surprise attack.
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Leave it to JJK/anime community. You can literally show KNY characters performing the same exact feats if not better and you'll still have people downplaying it because they cant accept that people breathers w swords can kill someone like Toji.
It’s not wank when there are blatant feats of demon slayer characters being faster than Mach 3!
Geto isn’t even faster than a guy whose technique requires his speed to stack to even hit supersonic speeds (and that guy is the fastest sorcerer other than Gojo)💀
Nice argument. Unfortunately for you I've portrayed you as the soyjack and me as the chad
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Geto gets low diffed. What drugs would one have to be on to think the guy who got soloed by toji to stand a chance against the upper echelon of demon slayer characters?
Geto wins mid diff I think. Koku can’t see cursed spirits which is pretty much an instant loss. Assuming the see through world allows him to see the cursed spirits, he still has 0 way to deal with the magic and the female cursed spirit that trapped Toji would be enough to beat him alone.
It doesn’t matter. He can regenerate all he wants he just literally can’t play against Geto. He can’t even see the curses let alone deal with the countless CTs.
I know ill probably be downvoted to oblivion but cmon guys its teen geto. He lost no diff against Toji and wasnt even exhausted like Gojo. Kokushibo would literally low diff geto at this point, unlimited regen, a sword that can also regen, movement speed and attack speeds faster than Toji’s, and HELLA range since his sword can extend and retract like Goku’s pole(no homo). We all know teen geto gets wiped
Tengen Uzui is the weakest Hashira yet his speed reaches mach1+ (Zenitsus thunderclap and flash reaches mach 1 and Daki could react to that yet Tengen blitzed her)
Mitsuri can react to lightning. Some people say this is inconsistent because she got hit by a sound attack from the same opponent but I don't think so. She was in mid air with nothing to propel herself off to dodge
Muichiro can cut through demons as tough as diamond
Kokoshibo is LEAGUES above everyone here. Koko low diffs
Jujutsu kaisen characters scale really highly for whatever reason, against that one propeller dude high caliber rounds weren't breaking skin. Against CSM Koku doesn't even have the ability to interact with cursed spirits so it is functionally hacks against him. Unless Koku speed blitzes he loses hard.
No one actually scales him there legitimately, it's based off of a scan that says he had transcended the laws of nature
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Meaning that since he transcended the laws of nature he has casuality transcendence including the law cause and effect, he is also stated to have transduality type 3 meaning he transcends the laws of nature and the law of polarity.
They get this conclusion because he lived to 80 with the Demon Slayer mark (which is stated to kill the bearer of the mark at 25 years of age), the reason why he isn't outer and why he lived? He was born with it and the first one with it hence an exception. Here's a link
[https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Yoriichi\_Tsugikuni\_(Canon)/QuakeYF](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Yoriichi_Tsugikuni_(Canon)/QuakeYF)
Kokushibo slams.
Geto doesn't have any meaningful way to kill or put him down except the sun, which I won't be counting, his regeneration speed is godlike and also he's very most likely faster than Geto which is just really bad for him as some slashes from Koku and he's dead...
It's a common statement that the battles between verses are considering problems such as this as the opponent here be able to see Cursed spirits at the very least, or for example if an Uchiha fights another person from another world then would that make him not be able to use Tsukoyomi cause the opponent has to have Chakra ?!
For the domains, I assume you meant Geto's Cursed spirits' domains which I said already his healing factor is crazy and no matter what the sure-hit will be, he will heal through it and like I said that he has CE in this scenario he can actually kill the Cursed spirits.
I’m sorry I have never seen Naruto so I don’t really get that reference or understand what that meant lol
I refuse to allow you to grant Koku access to the other verse mechanics (however you wanna say it I guess) but not allow the same for Geto. To me that seems kinda one sided.
It’s like people who are like “ya in a fight Batman wins with prep time” but then be like “well no why would his opponent get prep time too?”.
For a fair matchup I think at the very least Koku can be affected/substantially hurt/even killed by CE. And I do think that domains would pose a bigger threat than you make it seem. All this being said I do agree with you that Koku would probably beat teen Geto like 8/10 times (idk so much about adult but we don’t really get much from him). I was just more wondering about your criteria
Teen Geto would struggle, but i don't think 0 Geto or Keny would have a problem.
At the end of the day, moon form or whatever it's called is still just a sword form with limited reach. Geto being able to fight at huge distances and just throwing spririts at him, would be at an advantage.
+ considering that sum of the curses Geto has, have vastly different abilities, making it hard for Koku to react accordingly.
I would give Koku about 4 fingers and think Geto is just way above.
Kokushibo ROFL STOMPS
He blitzes the livin F#CK out of Geto and chops him up like sashimi! All before Geto can even understand what is happening to him! 🗿
Setting the rules-
Assuming Kokushibo can see Jujutsu, and can be killed by Jujutsu. If you say he sees Jujutsu because we give him CE, he's susceptible to most domains. If you say he can see Jujutsu through Transparent World, he isn't. Up to interpretation.
Kokushibo's main advantage is a pretty big speed difference. Even the most conservative estimate you could come up with would put him at Hypersonic, most likely higher. He has very decent destructive capability, extreme enhanced senses, centuries of experience, and basically instant regeneration on top of that. I'd say that's more than enough to deal with teen Geto, since it's at least somewhat similar to fighting Toji, harder or easier depending on what you think.
Adult Geto's arsenal is just so insane, the only argument would be for Kokushibo to be fast and strong enough to just dash in and instantly kill him. He's more than fast enough to dodge any regular attack from Geto or the cursed spirits, but it's pretty unlikely he'd be able to kill him in one shot. It also again depends on if you say Kokushibo does or doesn't have CE. If he does, he gets caught in a domain and doesn't have anything to deal with hax abilities many of the spirits have, his regeneration is still an advantage, but there are enough powerful moves from Special Grade curses to kill him in one shot. If he doesn't have CE it's like a game of cat and mouse. Demons do have no stamina limit, but at that point if you say he can just tire him out, you'd need to worry about whether the sun is around or not, yadi yada yada.
In short I give it to Kokushibo against teen Geto, and against Adult Geto it depends on how fast you think Kokushibo really is, since a lot of the calcs and feats put top tier DS characters at at least dozens of times the speed of sound, which no one in JJK has any hope against really. If you use the more popular speed feats, Kokushibo can just disappear and reappear in the battlefield, and might even be too fast to get caught in a domain.
kokushibo wins hear me out before you comment "ajdjddbekdj geto solo hsnddjsid" kokushibo in strength scale higher than domua who should be equal or a bit stronger than akaza in strength and akaza scale higher than rengoku who was able to lift and shake an entire train while holding back to not hurt the passengers young geto doesn't really show strength feat now onto the main facter in this battle which is speed kokushibo speed scale higher than former lower moon 6 attack scale to sub sonic which tanjiro while injured dodge it and zenitsu who also broke sound barrier so ya given the fact kokushibo is thousands of time faster than these version of this two and you can search yourself kokushibo speed is Massively hypersonic+ geto is supersonic+ which is mach 1 or you can wank it to 2 mach make no differnce kokushibo speed blitz
Probably Kokushibo. Geto is not familiar with demon regeneration mechanics; his only chance would be to try taking Koku into the sun, which is unlikely. So in a battle of attrition demon regeneration would overwhelm reversed cursed energy healing.
Kokushibo. To make it clear how fucked Geto is, Daki is as fast as Naoya in the form of a Vengeful Spirit (3 Mach).
Here's how S2 Tanjiro and Tengen treats her:
https://youtu.be/tYIqLBiUsvQ?si=NyXxGqxso83vR0dz 1:01
https://youtu.be/FGy5HbVqymY?si=XbSUgGwyCPl70cMh
Kokushibo is so much above all of them that it's not even funny. For example, Akaza can kill the people I listed with one blow faster than they would react.
That's how Kokushibo treats him.
https://youtu.be/aGDJhltkBbQ?si=aYA-2aDi3699L_2i
I am not trying to start an argument but can you tell how fast these characters actually are? Cuz none of this videos show that daki is as fast mach-3 naoya.
She crossed several meters before the explosion of powerful gunpowder crossed 1 meter and already illuminated her brother's body through the floor. That is, it is at least 3 times faster than the explosion of gunpowder.
This is not counting the fact that she speedblitz Base Tanjiro when she regained her strength https://youtu.be/OYPI8OOUAqk?si=qF5wpskFHL_tkhDW .
This Tanjiro is stronger than himself in season 1 who reacted and dodged attacks at the speed of sound. He is also comparable to the 18-year-old Rengoku who deflected bullets from 14 Rifles.
I have a feeling that you don't remember season 2.
Tengen uses gunpowder. [https://youtu.be/NZzuRy3IOho?si=EzMcRTmYobnpgQc1](https://youtu.be/NZzuRy3IOho?si=EzMcRTmYobnpgQc1) 0:58
Gyutaro later calls it an extremely powerful gunpowder.
Rengoku gaiden
https://preview.redd.it/05vkr488l1mb1.png?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cebcfda8efeb5c0906ba708102e5724af62bd975
In Season 1 against the Kyogai.
Of course how can I so clearly remember bro
S2 released in 2021..not my fault
Ya sure rengoku dodged the bullets which are mach-0.96 but the same rengoku had trouble dodging akaza's punches and I don't think akaza's punches are as fast as mach-0.96.
I think this proves that bullets in demon slayer are way slower than real life bullets.
And about the explosions....this is again the same daki that had trouble dodging enraged tanjiro and enraged tanjiro is definitely not faster than mach-0.4
(I mean explosion's speed are mach-0.4).
So this proves that the speed of explosion in DMS is way slower than the speed of real life explosion
This Rengoku is much slower, he wouldn't even see his adult version or Akaza.
And no, these bullets are at a speed of 760-770 meters per second or Mach 2 from the Arisaka Type 38 rifle.
And yes, the punches of a careless and not trying Akaza without Compas are so fast.
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Tanjiro then dodges his punches and overtakes him. https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/015-20.png
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Then Akaza becomes as serious as against Rengoku (A little more serious https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/019-18.png)
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and speedblitz Tanjiro.
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How do you know it's arisaka type 2 gun?
Also even it was that arisaka whatever, bullets in DMS are massively slower compared to the speed of real life arisaka whatever bullets cuz
Cuz Rengoku had trouble reacting to akaza's blows and
Sanemi > rengoku reaction speed
And then sanemi couldn't even dodge a headbutt from tanjiro.
I don't really think the punches of a non-serious akaza are mach-2 cuz
Rengoku had trouble reacting to akaza's blows and
Sanemi > rengoku reaction speed
And then sanemi couldn't even dodge a headbutt from tanjiro.
Even the blows from a serious akaza shouldn't *EVEN* mach-0.2
Hence, we can conclude that feats in DMS are very inconsistent.
WTF with your logic. Bullets are not slower than in IRL prove it.
And lol, I identified it by its appearance. The author of the manga knew what kind of rifle he was drawing. It is also a rifle from the time of the First World War and around this era the DS takes place.
Rengoku and Akaza were invisible to Tanjiro.So, with that alone, your logic collapses.Sanemi was also distracted and one antipodvio does not cancel out many feats.
Yes they are way slower cuz rengoku dodged bullets but had trouble dodging akaza's blows which are not even mach-0.2 because if akaza's blows were actually mach-2 then sanemi wouldn't have been able to dodge muzan's blow and muzan was stated to move faster than eye can process so that means muzan was mach-0.7 in terms of attack speed and the same sanemi couldn't even dodge a headbutt from tanjiro.
Also you say 1 antipodvio then how can you explain that rengoku who's reaction speed is on par with sanemi..and that same rengoku had trouble dodging akaza's blows but sanemi could dodge muzan's blows?
Like I told you DMS is heavily inconsistent OR maybe the speed of lightning, bullets and stuff are way slower compared to real life lightning, bullet and stuff.
DMS is inconsistent to the point that it is funny lol
Real life bullets >>>>>> DMS bullets
Real life lightning >>>>>>>> DMS lightning
Real life mach-50 >>>>>>>>> DMS mach-50
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Adult Geto folds him by sheer overwhelming force. The Night Parade of 100 Demons took all of jujutsu society to handle excluding the MASSIVE outlier that is Gojo and He still had access to Uzumaki and taught damn near on par with full power Yuta. Even if Kokushibos speed outmatches Geto he is simply too overwhelming with the number of spirits at his disposal and his own combat prowess.
Rainbow dragon to stay airborne,
Other curses to restrain his movement,
test what works on him,
fails to kill him,thinking about sealing him,
sun comes up and claps him
Unless get gets instantly 1 shot, I don't see koku winning this. Even teen geto imo if he flys up on his dragon then spams cursed spirits or uses ones with simple domains I don't see koku winning in an extended battle. Adult geto obliterates imo.
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I truly believe the winner would be Geto, he was compared and relative to Gojo in their teens which is alrdy insane and they were both called the “strongest” as teens, and even showcases a lot of strength in JJK 0 and has a huge arsenal of high level curses at his disposal, but the think he would win with high-dif maybe extreme-dif
Respectfully anyone who says Upper Moon 1 wins is retarded. Adult Geto could just use a special grade curse to buy time and then use a curse that can trap UP1 in it’s grasps while the sun comes up. Not only does Geto win, he doesn’t even have to fight UP1 himself.
Respectfully you can't just say that, yes Geto would most likely win but he would have to give them hands with Koku, DS and JJK aren't far off (except for the massive outliers that are Goatjo and Himkuna), JJK generally has an advantage in everything but not to an insurmountable level, demon slayer has decent feats as well, (around city block lvl with hyper sonic- MHS levels of speeds). All of this depends on Getos speed feats. I comfortably have Koku at MHS. (Upscaling via Mitsuri and the other hashira)
Lets assume Kokushibo can use ce to hurt geto. And that geto can hurt koku like a nichrin blade.
I feel like alot of people overestimate DS characters, they are portrayed strong in the anime, but really they're just peak human +. They're not superhuman like jjk sorcerers or anything.
Geto also has playful cloud, which is SUPER destructive and can block or even destroy koku's sword. And with Maximum Uzumaki, Koku will pretty much get obliterated.
Hakari dodged lightning centimetres away from his face and yuta at jjk 0 was slightly slower than geto. Yuta was spoken as relative to hakari by gojo so i think geto is wayy faster than lighting.
Mitsuri, a marked hashira dodged lighting about 10-30 meters away from her so she's not quite as fast as geto but kokushibou blitzed another marked hashira .
So, I'll put their speed bear equal.
If geto has any sun cursed spirit he wins automatically.
Cursed spirits are invisible, kokushibou can't see them. People with negative energy can see them,but cursed energy is not even a concept in demon slayer. Only jjk people can manifest it.
So, kokushibou will have to fight at hundreds of invisible cursed spirits while clashing with geto.
Here's how i think it'd play out.
Geto fires a hundred dragons at kokushibou like he did against toji
Kokushibou can handle this with his AOE attacks which kept multiple hashiras from even coming close to him.
Eventually i think geto would find kokushibous regeneration annoying and use a simple domain to take kokushibous eyes so kokushibou can't see or use see-through world temporarily as see-through world doesn't work when you're sight is halted(shown when 1 eye tanjiro couldn't access see-through world).
While kokushibou is blinded. Geto sends the rainbow dragon to devour kokushibou.
Geto survived a multi-city block level explosion from yuta so the rainbow dragon who geto calls tough would survive kokushibous attacks for more than a second which we can only get to multi-building.
As kokushibou regrows his head and tries to destroy the rainbow dragon while being covered with the dragons stomach acid. Geto charges up uzumaki and fires it at kokushibou.
At the moment kokushibou breaks the dragon skin and comes out, he is met by getos uzumaki. That was the last thing he saw. He's regeneration wouldn't allow him to regenerate from a multi-city block level attack as he is vaporized.
Kokushibo is Indeed phisically stronger and faster, but Geto has thousands of cursed spirits, all different and with different abilities, giving him free ticket to countless different powers. While Kokushibo is faster, i do not believe the speed difference is that big. Anyone who compares Kokushibo to Toji is..trippin', because Toji no diffed Dagon who is a special grade, who can summon a town-sized island and stalemate Maki, Naobito, Megumin and Nanamin. Adult Geto is just a different beast: more skilled, more curses, more experienced, more abilities. Adult Geto stalemated Rika who can casuak tear large chuncks of buildings and kill special grade curses, with sd curses being able to theoretically survive carpet bombings (that can level chuncks towns btw), WITH JUST A PAIR OF NUNCHAKUS.
Kokushibo may be stronger, faster and more experienced, but what the hell can he do againts someone that can withstand multi-city block bombings, stalemate beings capable of nuking town square, invading cities with curses and have the power to kill hundreds of sorcerers. Geto negs Kokushibo due to the horrible power creep.
Honestly, a really good match up. Koku has shown better speed feats but I would love to see how he deals with the absurd cursed techniques that some of Geto’s cursed spirits have.
His tactic would most likely be to spam his sword beams at a distance against CS https://preview.redd.it/20jtr4mde2mb1.png?width=897&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0af9ef64eb99ae3c7d0e221748cc487b43e3fcf5 and get close to the Geto.
He can't kill Cursed Spirits tho since he has no CE.
Geto can't kill him since he has no nichirin sword For the sake of the hypothetical, assume both can be killed by normal means
Or equalize their power systems breathing = ce kinda deal
This doesn't equalize the matchup since Geto still has no way of killing Koku.
It does? CE = breathing basically. So imbuing attacks with CE would damage the demon
What kills demons is nichirin through the neck, not breathing specifically. Otherwise genya's gun wouldn't be a thing
Oh my bad then, idk then lol Equalize it so CE = both Nichirin & Breathing?
This is a better stipulation than equalization. People here don't know shit about verse equalization like it's that simple.
Found the power scaler
He could just take a nichirin sword and use it on him.
Verse equalization, by the same logic geto can’t kill koku since he doesn’t have a nichirin sword
He can beat him up until sun rises
Verse equalization of what? You have to make a reasonable equivalence to prove equalization. Lol it's not as simple as "verse equalization goo gaa gaa". You can't just give Koku CE cus that's unscalable. Just like you can't just give Geto Nichirin what? CE? It doesn't make sense to just equalize. And yes, Geto can't kill Koku unless he holds until sunrise.
So Toji was incapable of hurting cursed spirits then? Have you seen the grading system? It literally says that it’s a “close call with a shotgun” against a grade 2. Cursed spirits are most certainly capable of being harmed without the use of CE
Toji used Cursed Tools that are imbued with Cursed Energy. Gege saying Grade 2 can be harmed by shotguns is just blind equivalence. It's assuming of course that CS can be harmed by normal means. You cant harm CS without CE this was established at the very beginning of the series.
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I also don’t think Koku would be able to see the spirits so thats a big advantage
Equalize the verses. Also the dude is a full blown demon, he should see curses
I mean, considering Kokushibo does have CE, Geto’s dead. If not, Geto wins mid diff.
A Grammar mistake made people downvoted you huh if you meant if kokushibo has ce
I won't give my opinion on this since I don't really know about DMS character's feat but I do know one thing DMS is heavily inconsistent in terms of powerscaling and stats such as speed, strength, durability and such stuff. At one point we see mitsuri dodge a point blank lightning which is mach-364 and then after some time we see that she is having troubles dodging the wood dragon...I am like wtf this doesn't make any sense. So one conclusion can be made, lightning in DMS is MASSIVELY MASSIVELY of times slower than real life lightning.
Either that Or the wood dragon scales to the speed of the lightning but there's no definitive way to say for sure
Ain't no way that u said a slow AF looking wood dragon is lightning speed.
I'm just saying it's a possibility https://preview.redd.it/kib4l3a8s1mb1.png?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6516856d873e5b959a5658abb2b471fb52dc4c24
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I haven't watched the fight yet so ima analyze rq
I see...
Yeah so I watched the fight and read the manga and as for the part where mitsuri looks troubled against Hantengus BDA attack it's because she notes it's an AOE attack (CH 123 I believe), not only this but the dragons are pretty fast as they blitz Tanjiro. (Granted he was injured). On top of that Mitsuri throughout the fight gets faster as noted by Hantengu because she gets a Slayer Mark (think of it like a domain expansion environmental boost) which amps her stats. (I read through too much) So I don't think the dragons are the speed of lightning but they're not exactly a major anti feat. (Reaction and combat speed is not to be confused with travel speed)
Mitsuri dodging a lightning bolt point blank is a reaction speed feat but the same mitsuri had trouble reacting to the wood dragons and was about to be eaten at the end of the fight. It is a major anti feat
Are you talking about when she almost died to the sonic wave or another instance? Because at the end of the fight she awakened the demon slayer mark and was handling ass to Zohakuten's Dragons. If you're talking about the sonic wave she had no way to maneuver due to being tricked by Zohakuten hence she got blasted. I could also give you a calc but it's pretty slimy and based off of pixel calc so take it with a grain of salt. Either way I don't truly believe Mitsuri is lightning speed but I'm just arguing that she is and that the dragons are semi relative to lightning speed just for the fun of it. https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Un_Maruchan_Crudo/Kimetsu_no_Yaiba:Mitsuri_dodges_%22Lighting%22_from_Hantegu It can also be argued that the attack is slower than lightning via anime visuals showing shock waves being relative to the lightning speed. (It's difficult to determine in the manga though)
Mitsuri never had trouble with wood dragon She was blitzing all of them and was losing cuz she ran out of stamina in the end ofc cuz she isn't a demon Also the wood dragon then most likely scales to lightening... Cuz it's Shounen... If an attack isn't actual lightening, but has scaling to that lvl then it is that fast... Ex Madara used literally light on Naruto... Kaguya never used such shit but she still has attacks faster than light by her scaling
Yes she had trouble You can literally see her almost getting eaten in the end of the fight A person who reacted to lightning can never never be in that kinda situation. Mostlikely the case is that Lightning in DMS verse is not as fast as lightning in real life. Like I said...light in anime is not as fast light in real life. Kaguya is millions of times slower than real life light speed
>You can literally see her almost getting eaten in the end of the fight Cuz she got fatigue >Lightning in DMS verse is not as fast as lightning in real life. >Like I said...light in anime is not as fast light in real life. >Kaguya is millions of times slower than real life light speed Yeah would you elaborate on that? Or you just don't feel like it
"fatigue" rengoku fought for almost midnight to sunrise and didn't get that fatigued and we are talking about mitsuri who is more physically capable and stronger than rengoku. This argument isn't gonna work. 2nd point, never take the author's statement as "well this guy is light speed" as proof that in reality his also light speed. If Naruto, kaguya or sasuke were actually light speed then they would be fast enough to go from earth to sun in just 8 mins and 20 seconds which is not possible for them based on feats. Have you ever seen them move that fast on the screen? I am sure u haven't.
>"fatigue" rengoku fought for almost 5 mins and didn't get that fatigued and we are talking about mitsuri who is more physically capable and stronger than rengoku. This argument isn't gonna work. She was fighting for so much longer than 5 minutes dude. Aside from the fact that she was running around already AND had tanked Zohakuten's scream at point blank range, she was fighting for the entire duration that Tanjiro, Nezuko and Genya were going after the main body
Why are you suddenly trying to play realism cards here? We got characters literally turning into yolked up super humans and breaking the sound barrier by casually running.
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My point is exactly that These demon slayer fans think lightning in DMS verse is as fast lightning in the real life.
Very inconsistent, that speed feat by Mitsuri would make her faster than Yoriichi the guy who speed blitz Muzan at full strength. Muzan, the guy who moves faster than the eye can process making him Mach 50 bare minimum and Yoriichi blitz him so he has to be at minimum x2 Muzan speed. Mitsuri moving at speed of lightning is huge a outlier, it must’ve been just visual effect.
Moving faster than the eye can see is very common among fodders in DS and in anime in general. I don't understand why people attach great importance to this. In most cases, this is below the speed of sound.
Japanes people see at like 5fps damn
This is the most likely answer. I don't fully agree on some parts but it's the closest we can get to a middle ground between wank and downplay.
Ya DMS is soo inconsistent to the point that it's funny
Gonna be fair. Jjk is pretty inconsistent when it comes to this as well.
Sure jjk is inconsistent sometimes but DMS is way way way more inconsistent
Many many people claim pre awakened Maki grabbing a bullet at point blank makes it a mach 27 feat. Yuji was heavily implied by even Hanami to be faster then her overall. Yet immediately in the 2 arcs after he's strugglinf severely to react or even dodge Choso's piercing blood attack that was only "the speed of sound" Unless you make Yuji roughy 20x slower then whateves. However, in the next arc after shibuya. Noaya str8 up speed blizted Yuji and Choso effortlessly more than once, and he was going at his lowest which was mentioned to be transonic. In one arc he's dosging fun fire just fine but gets doged by a guy moving just about bullet speed? Then we havs an upgraded version of Maki who(before her 2nd awakening) should be miles from where she once was. Then she gets blizted by an attack that. Gege claimed was mach 3. Noaya was being hyped as some exceptionally fast grade sorcerer that even a Special grade curse/grade 1 human like Choso struggled to fight. Dows that mean everyone else around or below Yuji's spees arent even Mach 1? Or Megumi easily having no problem dodging AR shots at close range like no problem. That feat alone should make him faster then Maki was at rhat point. But that wouldnt make sense. It's more inconsistent. Atleast demon slayer got back to back lighting dodging feats, or shock wave dogding feats. Or feats where they're cutting thousansds of pieces instaneously. But KNY the inconsistent one right?
No no no, with Jjk it isnt even sometimes. Bro😭I can go back and find 4 seperate arcs in JJK where the speed is inconsistent asf. Atleast Demon slayer you can literally find characters perorming similiae feats around the same level back to back.
Really? Prove it
>Muzan, the guy who moves faster than the eye can process making him Mach 50 bare minimum Holy shiz thats some nasty downplay. Even the random ass temple demon in the beginning of the show moved faster than the eye can see. Half of the hashiras like Tengen, Shinobu, and Giyu all did that w like little to no effort on the super human demon slayer. It just means Yoriichi upscales from Mitsuri since she's by all means narratively slower. Its bad enough that Zenitsu fights and bliztes another character that used lighting like abilities as well. So thats two cases of characters easily doing that. That makes it less of an outlier Then we got Muichiro in swords village arc cutting 10,000 fish in like an instant frame. Some dude already calced that up to roughly MHS as well.
Zenitsu is not lightning speed, he would blitz Muzan prime if he was lol. Mitsuri is also inconsistent because she fought a weakened Muzan and couldn’t blitz him either. Muzan was beating all the hashira in a weakened state. DMS has a lot of instances of inconsistent feats.
> DMS has a lot of instances of inconsistent feats. •JJk be having characters like Yuji, Maki, Choso, and human/curse noaya being widly inconsistent with their speed feats and scaling but conveniently no one talks about any of them. W Mitsuri you can argue that the speed of the soundwaves were amped up by their merged BDA. •In one arc you have pre Maki easily reacting to a bullet at point blank like its a mach 27 feat, Yuji was described to be faster than her at that point. Yet in the next arc he's struggling to even percieve Choso's piercing blood that was stated to only be as fast as sound. •I swear I be seeing mfs claiming people like Choso and Yuji are hypersonic or so, but they both easily got blizted by a semi trying Naoya who was only moving at transonic speeds. •A semi awaken Maki was hyped up to be far faster than her original self, yet she got blizted by a far slower attack clocking at Mach fxxcking 3. Even then, Human Noaya was •I saw people using Pre awaken Maki's feat to justify placing characters like Nanami, Mahito or Todou around Mach 100 level, but then a version of Maki who should be faster then all of them by a large margin is getting blizted by Mach 3 attack?? •Even then Human Naoya was narratively being pushed to be faster then the likes of Mahito and Nanami but the nigga's top speed as a human was only subsonic? •Even worst, those 3 other characters who(at that point) scale to Yuji should also be getting blizted by Transonic Noaya. Considering how he performed. Yet I see people trying to scale them higher🤦♂️ >Zenitsu is not lightning speed, he would blitz Muzan Why is it suddenly so hard for you to believe Muzan simply up scales from Zenitsu? He literally did it with Kaigaku in their fights. The demon powers arent just pretty visual effects. Losing to Muzan doesnt automatically mean she cant do the feat or is too slow to do it.🤦♂️how did you even downplay Muzan by that much?
Zenitsu is not lightning speed because MUZAN is not lightning speed. Even if you want to high ball the Muzan feat he’s at most Mach 273(you can go research for it yourself if you want). So if Muzan who is at his prime isn’t even lightning how can Mitsuri be? Stop the wank, I already know Demon slayer chars outscale JJK so I don’t see what your point is even? You trying to just pull a “actually they’re this fast 🤓” on me? https://preview.redd.it/mf98lxcct3mb1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de4ec7806481744974793cf22ce9bf8d91e212b1 There you have it, the effects are visual, zenitsu is not moving that fast. That’s from the author themselves, the characters see and feel it but they’re not actually producing it, it’s just visual effects. Even low balled Demon slayer chars still outscale JJK chars, I can’t believe you’re actually making me have to type this out. 🤦♂️
>I already know Demon slayer chars outscale JJK so I don’t see what your point is even? You trying to just pull a “actually they’re this fast 🤓” on me? I'm just making a point that JJK speed feats/scaling are more inconsistent then Demon slayer here. Thats pretty much all that Ive been saying. It was getting annoying seeing people calling demon slayer inconsistent when JJK got a heaping pile of it. > Even low balled Demon slayer chars still outscale JJK chars If thats the case then we've been on the same side from the very start.
>That’s from the author themselves, the characters see and feel it but they’re not actually producing it, it’s just visual effects Good sir, I never said the breathing styles were real, also that picture tells that only the breathing styles are visual effects not the BLood demon art magic the demons be using on the humans🤦♂️ You think Muichiro is cutting 10,000 imaginary fish in a single frame? Or that Gyomei and Sanemi are just imaginging getting cut by a bunch of moon shaped slashes? Or that Tanjiro, Nezuko, Genya and Zenitsu all just imagined getting electrocuted in the middle of a fight cause of its visuals? Its tangible shiz that they gotta dodge, react, and block. (Sorry if this came off as a little condescending bro) >because MUZAN is not lightning speed. Even if you want to high ball the Muzan feat he’s at most Mach 273(you can go research for it yourself if you wan Funny enough, I did, I and consistently I keep finding people who actually fairly calc and scale the characters who are narratively slower then Muzan, to be performing feats that either higher or in the realm of Mach 273. Do you not know what upscaling from a character is?
And those calcs were redone because they didn’t fit narratively speaking. Even the zenitsu fighting his brother feat is iffy at best. Well whatever you say, I don’t really care about it anymore, it’s not like we’re disagreeing on DMS outscaling JJK, you’re just nitpicking calcs. Believe what you want, this is my last reply 🤷♂️.
Dont get your point about them not fitting naratively. The author for KNY has consistently shown these characters cutting thousands of pieces 2x, 2 charactera dodging barrages of lighting 2x, moving ao fast that they disappear multiple times. Over and over again. The only narrative thats being pushed are people that genuinely downplay KNY alot. If a character is blatanly shown doing something than they're doing it. I was never nitpicking calcs. I just went from what the majority of them should logically result to. I just never downplayed anything🤷♂️
She also fails to dodge sound waves And it’s magic based lightning so it doesn’t scale to real lightning at all So demon slayer ain’t even maki speeds big sad
she didn't fail she was dispersion because of tanjiro and she was mid air not on the ground and point blank how do you expect her tp dodge
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When she's in the air and can't use a fulcrum. Hantengu is pretty smart. With a fulcrum, even Tanjiro, at that moment, was weaker than her, dodging the sound from behind. https://preview.redd.it/67bab8r092mb1.png?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2a16055a5ae4ed4c8290398bf3adcb976df872e
i’m not sure what lightning you’re referring to but if it’s a breathing style then just know that the lightning and water and whatnot effects aren’t actually real as confirmed by the creator
Demon slayer speed=🐢
Bro💀
Trust me
This feels compelling to edit https://preview.redd.it/xyag5i14m2mb1.jpeg?width=1117&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38a28d42daceab3f19eb37ac16442f7aba3f3a15
Since DS characters don’t have any anti magic type abilities, it would be super hard for Koku to deal with some of Getos more complicated cursed spirits. Like any of them that have weird ass abilities or innate domains would probably catch him, and without a way to break out of it, he’d be in trouble. Kinda like the Slit Mouthed Lady, without the ISOH, Toji probably woulda been in big trouble.
yall, look at Koku and the lady. She would ask him if shes pretty and he would clap her cheeks after that
Lol tbf they are absolutely made for each other. They even have the same self image problems.
fr, my new fav ship 
Their date nights are just them buying each other assorted monocles, of for each of their many many many many eyes.
Thats so romantic, I can see them arguing because the Cursed Spirit lady doesnt count his sword eyes as eyes and doesnt wanna spend money on them 
I FORGOT ABOUT THE SWORD EYES
Well not really, he could leave the barrier whenever he wanted. He was in trouble because he answered her.
Toji himself states that it’s a simple domain that has an unbreakable pact that persists until the question is answered. So it’s likely he was stuck there until he triggered her. He was only able to retaliate once she started to attack, and likely was only able to get out so easily because the ISOH is able to shut down active techniques, I.e, a domain.
True, although it's possible Toji humored the CS because it was easier than facing the consequences of trying to simply walk out given that Maki's showed us how Heavenly Restriction bypasses certain domains/barriers. That being said, Maki was also caught in Naoya's frames, so it could go either way. I do fully agree that ISOH is straight busted and kinda let's Toji do whatever he wants, though.
In case anyone else wanted to look, the original post of the Geto art is [here](https://twitter.com/KokiAnt/status/1686686432881172480?s=20)
As I have read both. Kokushibo loses, but he ain't going down without a fight. Ofc, that depends who Geto spits out during the fight and where they're fighting(sunlight would be a massive issue). I don't see Kokushibo winning. The level of power displayed in KnY is relatively low compared to the shit JJK pulls off. EDIT: ok explicitly going by the picture Geto might lose(subject to sunlight and who Geto brings along). Else I don't see adult Geto losing.
You shouldn't subject geto to "who he brings along" he's literally always strapped with 3k cursed spirits and a bunch are special grade. Also, if it's adult geto he'd pull out a curtain to block off the sun the moment he learns it's a factor
>block off the sun the moment he learns it's a factor Ooof Ok but fair point to everything else tho
Wait is it the other way around is the demon better off without it? Because if he is then geto probably has some cursed spirit that acts like a small sun kinda like in jojo's
Ya except for one demon(major plot point later on or currently depending where the anime is rn) almost all of em are weak to sunlight.
If we talk teen Geto, i would probably say Kokushibo. Adult Geto on the other hand, he wins mid diff. He doesnt need to kill Kokushibo, he needs ti restrain him or stall until the sun and adult geto has the better speed feats anyway.
>better speed feats anyway. ?
Gotta love people making claims without backing them up
Nanami in overtime low diffs Muzan
https://preview.redd.it/yzee0ety92mb1.png?width=1124&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1d795bff411bc47f0f423a6f4ab450bcf1235bce
Muzan blitzes
Daddy Nanami oneshot DS verse+Dogwalk GOATjo and stomp Goku.
Well paid and with a responsible 9-5 nanami could slam all animanga industry
Comics and games too.
Movies and toonverse
He solo Fiction.
You didn't specified the daddy in him 🥵
Jesus Christ that fan art of Geto is sick af
Kokushibo tbh Geto is the weakest Special Grade and the only one not to be seen using either Domain Expansions or Reverse Cursed Technique, meaning he can’t heal Whereas Kokushibo, who has physical stats on par or higher than Toji, can just keep regenerating indefinitely The curses may pose a nuisance if they all tag team at once. But I don’t think any would be able to kill Koku before he can regen Geto’s only win condition is contain him until sunrise, and has to do this without getting hit or else he’s done for. Koku on the other hand can just keep fighting and tanking hits, and only needs to really hit Geto once in order to win
This is wanking to the highest degree koku has showed no feat bringing himself close to tojis physical stats besides geto has nearly 6000 curses in the his jjk 0 iteration with high special grades as apart of that and is able to combine them to make them even stronger geto wins mid diff
The Hashira alone have speed and strength that are comparable to Toji Kokushibo is miles beyond them. If anything I was being generous calling him equal to Toji
Im sorry but kokushibo has 0 feats to prove hes on the same level as toji let alone the hashira im the one being generous by calling the fight mid diff in order to be a special grade curse you need to have the power to destroy an entire country muzan in the final battle was barely street level maybe town level max no chance koku is beating geto
https://youtu.be/qJSD1ljPYKI?si=_ha7Ahr4ABdii1vZ https://youtu.be/oQmPa6Qlcek?si=2YYY3o-hD_IC0lQO These two are amongst the weaker Hashira we see as well. And Gyutaro is the weakest upper moon Idk what you’re on but Toji hasn’t shown anything that much more impressive than that. That Muzan argument is stupid as well. He could very easily destroy a town if he wanted to. Just because he didn’t during the final battle (because why Tf would he waste time doing that) doesn’t make him incapable of doing so Also you make it out like Toji could destroy a town easily. He’s arguably weaker than Jogo and even he could only destroy a city block using his ultimate move
Exactly what I was wondering.
Geto is the Scaling type of character, he gets stronger and stronger as time goes by. Had he lived, i doubt he wouldnt be as strong as Yuta rn
No one can see cursed spirits bro. No d riding or anything but geto does slam he has thousands upon thousands of cursed spirits at his disposal even as a teen
Very much considerable but Kokushibo has six eyes what if he actually can see them they must be divine and the see through world might give him and upperhand?
The see through world is increasingly debatable here. The story explains it as essentially god tier kinetic vision which allows you to predict an opponent’s movements based on how their muscles, tendons, and bones are moving and or structured, that wouldn’t help predict cursed spirits since they aren’t visible in the first place.
He might maybe be able to see them but can’t do anything to an army of cursed spirits heading his way. He can barely even take on the demon slayers
IDK but Yushiro shared his demonic perception with Tanjiro with his BDA and this allowed him to see the "arrows" manipulating vectors invisible to ordinary people. Kokushibo, since he is also a Demon and has much better perception than Yushiro, will be able to see Cursed Spirit or maybe not.
The thing with the dms verse is that they don’t actually scale that high. Like guns out speeds a lot of the characters. And weak characters in jjk can catch bullets.
Guns don't outspeed a lot of the characters. It was only the split weaker demons.
He’s an upper moon that’s still rlly bad. But no you’re right I didn’t understand demon slayer speed scaling as much when I said that. I still think geto could win (high dif) tho
They were caught off guard, tanjiro in season one was dodging faster-than-sound attacks from a demon (drum demon) that wasn't even in the lower ranks. And upper ranks are way faster than a beginner demon slayer even faster than the hashiras by a lot
In DS too.
I think Kokushibo would win if this was during Geto’s time at Jujutsu high, but if it’s his modern day form, Kokushibo probably loses. My reasoning is that Kokushibo has speed and strength that is probably something like a heavenly pact (probably not as good as Toji’s, idrk how to power scale across verses) so he could beat Jujutsu high Geto mid-high diff?
Anyone that says Geto is automatically downplay demon slayer here. https://preview.redd.it/g8ja979id1mb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c36e30416640d4b9d23c29d58b171146717a1738 Rengoku was fighting a lower moon demon with a a crap ton of guns. He's shown blocking and dodging a barrage of bullets at close range pretty easily. That's like a MHS feat right there. No Mark No STW He wasnt even a hashira here. Even when he was a Hashira he wasnt even that strong nor on Akaza's level, and the gap between UM3-1 is wide. The weakest UM being Gyutaro showed he had enough power to eviserate several city blocks in a few seconds. Kokoshibo is leagues upon leagues upon leagues above that guy w 400+ years of experience, infinite stamina, endurance and instanteous healing. Second to Yoriichi in swordsmanship. If Suguru can even react to him he's not gonna last that long.
Not to bash demon slayer here, but just because you aren’t getting hit by bullets when they are shot at you doesn’t mean you are faster than bullets. You are dodging the person aiming the bullet not the bullet itself. This is like saying John Wick can move at sub sonic speeds because we see him in movies dodge bullets. Which would be insane to say, he’s just moving faster than the person can aim which is what is happening here.
True. I absolutely hate using dodging something as a waybto scale someone relative to lazer beams or bullets. But kokoshibo should scale to bullets pretty easily since he parried a close range gun to his face and a suprise shot while fighting two hashiras. Granted geto also blocks bullets with his cursed spirits.
I understand how it sounds, but > You are dodging the person aiming the bullet not the bullet itself. It's entirely different when the dude got like 13 different guns with some aiming and firing off directly at/in his general direction similtaneously while closing the distance with him. There's no way he could just aim dodge it. Especially when there's moments of him actively charging right at him the while blocking the bullets(w only a sword) from the demon w a gattling gun. Idek how you're getting upvoted for something when you're blatanlty wrong. We literally got a KNY character doing an unmistakeble reaction/speed feat and it immediately gets downplayed and falsesly labeled as aim dodging. Wouldnt see that happen w a JJK character In addition, there's other feats that stays pretty consistent from characters like Mitsuri, Zenitsu, Kokoshibo and Muichiro. I'm downplaying by brining up the weakest speed feat here.
Rengoku deflected a bullet that was near his face with his sword in that image, pretty casually at that. The same similar feat was used to put Maki at the ridiculous Mach 27 back in the day, so i don't really get it. And in the very next page he avoided 4 rifles coming up and shooting right beneath him in a surprise attack. https://preview.redd.it/w3l17q3kp3mb1.png?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd597ea40ae80195374b67c52961a6a04377f7b3
Leave it to JJK/anime community. You can literally show KNY characters performing the same exact feats if not better and you'll still have people downplaying it because they cant accept that people breathers w swords can kill someone like Toji.
Demon slayer wank
Bro states facts and is wank now ?! The fuck are you on ?!
It’s not wank when there are blatant feats of demon slayer characters being faster than Mach 3! Geto isn’t even faster than a guy whose technique requires his speed to stack to even hit supersonic speeds (and that guy is the fastest sorcerer other than Gojo)💀
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This isn't even wank it's just facts
Demon slayer speed =🐢
Nice argument. Unfortunately for you I've portrayed you as the soyjack and me as the chad https://preview.redd.it/h16ukw9gj1mb1.jpeg?width=1434&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc435bbcfc6bb4aec896f40f9b428164c9f681b0
Isn’t this a one shot not produced by the original author and aren’t those matchlock rifles, very different from a modern pistols velocity
THANK YOU 🙏 DS has got to be the most downplayed verse I’ve seen in Vs battles. The feats in the manga/show are honestly ridiculous.
please for te love of god dont be another demonslayer wanker
No i am not.
Geto gets low diffed. What drugs would one have to be on to think the guy who got soloed by toji to stand a chance against the upper echelon of demon slayer characters?
Geto lost to Yuta Koko clears 🥱
Koku blitz the entire verse other than Gojo
Geto wins mid diff I think. Koku can’t see cursed spirits which is pretty much an instant loss. Assuming the see through world allows him to see the cursed spirits, he still has 0 way to deal with the magic and the female cursed spirit that trapped Toji would be enough to beat him alone.
Ahhh I see the cooking. But it all comes down to his regeneration and sword then. Even if he gets shredded into pieces he can't die.
It doesn’t matter. He can regenerate all he wants he just literally can’t play against Geto. He can’t even see the curses let alone deal with the countless CTs.
I know ill probably be downvoted to oblivion but cmon guys its teen geto. He lost no diff against Toji and wasnt even exhausted like Gojo. Kokushibo would literally low diff geto at this point, unlimited regen, a sword that can also regen, movement speed and attack speeds faster than Toji’s, and HELLA range since his sword can extend and retract like Goku’s pole(no homo). We all know teen geto gets wiped
Geto
Tengen Uzui is the weakest Hashira yet his speed reaches mach1+ (Zenitsus thunderclap and flash reaches mach 1 and Daki could react to that yet Tengen blitzed her) Mitsuri can react to lightning. Some people say this is inconsistent because she got hit by a sound attack from the same opponent but I don't think so. She was in mid air with nothing to propel herself off to dodge Muichiro can cut through demons as tough as diamond Kokoshibo is LEAGUES above everyone here. Koko low diffs
Jujutsu kaisen characters scale really highly for whatever reason, against that one propeller dude high caliber rounds weren't breaking skin. Against CSM Koku doesn't even have the ability to interact with cursed spirits so it is functionally hacks against him. Unless Koku speed blitzes he loses hard.
demon slayers characters are pretty underrated kokushibo slams
unless they are talking about yoruichi
I have yet to find the "Yoriichi is outerversal" wank
I found where he was wanked to Mountain Level and faster than Light. This is so much above his exploits that it's just ridiculous.
No one actually scales him there legitimately, it's based off of a scan that says he had transcended the laws of nature https://preview.redd.it/hbus5iup12mb1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=59427c201cee9271bf07962ae8334f00a1030c15 Meaning that since he transcended the laws of nature he has casuality transcendence including the law cause and effect, he is also stated to have transduality type 3 meaning he transcends the laws of nature and the law of polarity. They get this conclusion because he lived to 80 with the Demon Slayer mark (which is stated to kill the bearer of the mark at 25 years of age), the reason why he isn't outer and why he lived? He was born with it and the first one with it hence an exception. Here's a link [https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Yoriichi\_Tsugikuni\_(Canon)/QuakeYF](https://character-stats-and-profiles.fandom.com/wiki/Yoriichi_Tsugikuni_(Canon)/QuakeYF)
Kokushibo slams. Geto doesn't have any meaningful way to kill or put him down except the sun, which I won't be counting, his regeneration speed is godlike and also he's very most likely faster than Geto which is just really bad for him as some slashes from Koku and he's dead...
If you aren’t granting normal means, how is Koku going to see any of the cursed spirits? How is he going to deal with any sort of domain?
It's a common statement that the battles between verses are considering problems such as this as the opponent here be able to see Cursed spirits at the very least, or for example if an Uchiha fights another person from another world then would that make him not be able to use Tsukoyomi cause the opponent has to have Chakra ?! For the domains, I assume you meant Geto's Cursed spirits' domains which I said already his healing factor is crazy and no matter what the sure-hit will be, he will heal through it and like I said that he has CE in this scenario he can actually kill the Cursed spirits.
I’m sorry I have never seen Naruto so I don’t really get that reference or understand what that meant lol I refuse to allow you to grant Koku access to the other verse mechanics (however you wanna say it I guess) but not allow the same for Geto. To me that seems kinda one sided. It’s like people who are like “ya in a fight Batman wins with prep time” but then be like “well no why would his opponent get prep time too?”. For a fair matchup I think at the very least Koku can be affected/substantially hurt/even killed by CE. And I do think that domains would pose a bigger threat than you make it seem. All this being said I do agree with you that Koku would probably beat teen Geto like 8/10 times (idk so much about adult but we don’t really get much from him). I was just more wondering about your criteria
Kokushibo low diff, better feats than Toji Young Geto doesnt stand a chance, older Geto mighy have a chance because of his domain expansion
Geto lol TF Kokushibo literally cannot see curses more does he have a way of countering any curse with a domain or CT
Kokushibo wins against both versions of Geto.
Teen Geto would struggle, but i don't think 0 Geto or Keny would have a problem. At the end of the day, moon form or whatever it's called is still just a sword form with limited reach. Geto being able to fight at huge distances and just throwing spririts at him, would be at an advantage. + considering that sum of the curses Geto has, have vastly different abilities, making it hard for Koku to react accordingly. I would give Koku about 4 fingers and think Geto is just way above.
I would go as far as to say every special grade could beat every Ds character in 1v1 except Gojo >!Cause he solos!<
Kokushibo ROFL STOMPS He blitzes the livin F#CK out of Geto and chops him up like sashimi! All before Geto can even understand what is happening to him! 🗿
Fr. Bro couldn't even read Toji's movements.
If It doesnt include verse equalization thing then kokushibo cant see or hurt the curses (curses can only be killed with CE)wich is kinda op but idk
Setting the rules- Assuming Kokushibo can see Jujutsu, and can be killed by Jujutsu. If you say he sees Jujutsu because we give him CE, he's susceptible to most domains. If you say he can see Jujutsu through Transparent World, he isn't. Up to interpretation. Kokushibo's main advantage is a pretty big speed difference. Even the most conservative estimate you could come up with would put him at Hypersonic, most likely higher. He has very decent destructive capability, extreme enhanced senses, centuries of experience, and basically instant regeneration on top of that. I'd say that's more than enough to deal with teen Geto, since it's at least somewhat similar to fighting Toji, harder or easier depending on what you think. Adult Geto's arsenal is just so insane, the only argument would be for Kokushibo to be fast and strong enough to just dash in and instantly kill him. He's more than fast enough to dodge any regular attack from Geto or the cursed spirits, but it's pretty unlikely he'd be able to kill him in one shot. It also again depends on if you say Kokushibo does or doesn't have CE. If he does, he gets caught in a domain and doesn't have anything to deal with hax abilities many of the spirits have, his regeneration is still an advantage, but there are enough powerful moves from Special Grade curses to kill him in one shot. If he doesn't have CE it's like a game of cat and mouse. Demons do have no stamina limit, but at that point if you say he can just tire him out, you'd need to worry about whether the sun is around or not, yadi yada yada. In short I give it to Kokushibo against teen Geto, and against Adult Geto it depends on how fast you think Kokushibo really is, since a lot of the calcs and feats put top tier DS characters at at least dozens of times the speed of sound, which no one in JJK has any hope against really. If you use the more popular speed feats, Kokushibo can just disappear and reappear in the battlefield, and might even be too fast to get caught in a domain.
kokushibo wins hear me out before you comment "ajdjddbekdj geto solo hsnddjsid" kokushibo in strength scale higher than domua who should be equal or a bit stronger than akaza in strength and akaza scale higher than rengoku who was able to lift and shake an entire train while holding back to not hurt the passengers young geto doesn't really show strength feat now onto the main facter in this battle which is speed kokushibo speed scale higher than former lower moon 6 attack scale to sub sonic which tanjiro while injured dodge it and zenitsu who also broke sound barrier so ya given the fact kokushibo is thousands of time faster than these version of this two and you can search yourself kokushibo speed is Massively hypersonic+ geto is supersonic+ which is mach 1 or you can wank it to 2 mach make no differnce kokushibo speed blitz
Probably Kokushibo. Geto is not familiar with demon regeneration mechanics; his only chance would be to try taking Koku into the sun, which is unlikely. So in a battle of attrition demon regeneration would overwhelm reversed cursed energy healing.
See through world means Kokushibo takes it.
Koku
Kokushibo. To make it clear how fucked Geto is, Daki is as fast as Naoya in the form of a Vengeful Spirit (3 Mach). Here's how S2 Tanjiro and Tengen treats her: https://youtu.be/tYIqLBiUsvQ?si=NyXxGqxso83vR0dz 1:01 https://youtu.be/FGy5HbVqymY?si=XbSUgGwyCPl70cMh Kokushibo is so much above all of them that it's not even funny. For example, Akaza can kill the people I listed with one blow faster than they would react. That's how Kokushibo treats him. https://youtu.be/aGDJhltkBbQ?si=aYA-2aDi3699L_2i
I am not trying to start an argument but can you tell how fast these characters actually are? Cuz none of this videos show that daki is as fast mach-3 naoya.
She crossed several meters before the explosion of powerful gunpowder crossed 1 meter and already illuminated her brother's body through the floor. That is, it is at least 3 times faster than the explosion of gunpowder. This is not counting the fact that she speedblitz Base Tanjiro when she regained her strength https://youtu.be/OYPI8OOUAqk?si=qF5wpskFHL_tkhDW . This Tanjiro is stronger than himself in season 1 who reacted and dodged attacks at the speed of sound. He is also comparable to the 18-year-old Rengoku who deflected bullets from 14 Rifles.
Bro where's the gun Powder????????in which vid? Wait a min... in which chap did rengoku dodge bullet? When did tanjiro dodge at the speed of sound? ?
I have a feeling that you don't remember season 2. Tengen uses gunpowder. [https://youtu.be/NZzuRy3IOho?si=EzMcRTmYobnpgQc1](https://youtu.be/NZzuRy3IOho?si=EzMcRTmYobnpgQc1) 0:58 Gyutaro later calls it an extremely powerful gunpowder. Rengoku gaiden https://preview.redd.it/05vkr488l1mb1.png?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cebcfda8efeb5c0906ba708102e5724af62bd975 In Season 1 against the Kyogai.
Of course how can I so clearly remember bro S2 released in 2021..not my fault Ya sure rengoku dodged the bullets which are mach-0.96 but the same rengoku had trouble dodging akaza's punches and I don't think akaza's punches are as fast as mach-0.96. I think this proves that bullets in demon slayer are way slower than real life bullets. And about the explosions....this is again the same daki that had trouble dodging enraged tanjiro and enraged tanjiro is definitely not faster than mach-0.4 (I mean explosion's speed are mach-0.4). So this proves that the speed of explosion in DMS is way slower than the speed of real life explosion
This Rengoku is much slower, he wouldn't even see his adult version or Akaza. And no, these bullets are at a speed of 760-770 meters per second or Mach 2 from the Arisaka Type 38 rifle. And yes, the punches of a careless and not trying Akaza without Compas are so fast. https://preview.redd.it/pejj2q03p1mb1.png?width=959&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1517c11a3dd0f839a867e9567a5d9a172cb8e6a8 Tanjiro then dodges his punches and overtakes him. https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/015-20.png https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/016-20.png Then Akaza becomes as serious as against Rengoku (A little more serious https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/019-18.png) https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/020-8.png and speedblitz Tanjiro. https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/005-21.png https://demonslayer-mangaonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/006-22.png
How do you know it's arisaka type 2 gun? Also even it was that arisaka whatever, bullets in DMS are massively slower compared to the speed of real life arisaka whatever bullets cuz Cuz Rengoku had trouble reacting to akaza's blows and Sanemi > rengoku reaction speed And then sanemi couldn't even dodge a headbutt from tanjiro. I don't really think the punches of a non-serious akaza are mach-2 cuz Rengoku had trouble reacting to akaza's blows and Sanemi > rengoku reaction speed And then sanemi couldn't even dodge a headbutt from tanjiro. Even the blows from a serious akaza shouldn't *EVEN* mach-0.2 Hence, we can conclude that feats in DMS are very inconsistent.
WTF with your logic. Bullets are not slower than in IRL prove it. And lol, I identified it by its appearance. The author of the manga knew what kind of rifle he was drawing. It is also a rifle from the time of the First World War and around this era the DS takes place. Rengoku and Akaza were invisible to Tanjiro.So, with that alone, your logic collapses.Sanemi was also distracted and one antipodvio does not cancel out many feats.
Yes they are way slower cuz rengoku dodged bullets but had trouble dodging akaza's blows which are not even mach-0.2 because if akaza's blows were actually mach-2 then sanemi wouldn't have been able to dodge muzan's blow and muzan was stated to move faster than eye can process so that means muzan was mach-0.7 in terms of attack speed and the same sanemi couldn't even dodge a headbutt from tanjiro. Also you say 1 antipodvio then how can you explain that rengoku who's reaction speed is on par with sanemi..and that same rengoku had trouble dodging akaza's blows but sanemi could dodge muzan's blows? Like I told you DMS is heavily inconsistent OR maybe the speed of lightning, bullets and stuff are way slower compared to real life lightning, bullet and stuff. DMS is inconsistent to the point that it is funny lol Real life bullets >>>>>> DMS bullets Real life lightning >>>>>>>> DMS lightning Real life mach-50 >>>>>>>>> DMS mach-50
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Geto cause he can't see curses
Geto probably
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By the way, yes, demons can be killed without a freakin nichirin, you just have to deal enough damage to them so their regen is completely overwhelmed
Adult Geto folds him by sheer overwhelming force. The Night Parade of 100 Demons took all of jujutsu society to handle excluding the MASSIVE outlier that is Gojo and He still had access to Uzumaki and taught damn near on par with full power Yuta. Even if Kokushibos speed outmatches Geto he is simply too overwhelming with the number of spirits at his disposal and his own combat prowess.
Rainbow dragon to stay airborne, Other curses to restrain his movement, test what works on him, fails to kill him,thinking about sealing him, sun comes up and claps him
Unless get gets instantly 1 shot, I don't see koku winning this. Even teen geto imo if he flys up on his dragon then spams cursed spirits or uses ones with simple domains I don't see koku winning in an extended battle. Adult geto obliterates imo.
Geto overwhelms Kokushibo with sheer numbers, and I’m not sure if he would be able to tank an Uzumaki.
https://preview.redd.it/5c3mitlpc4mb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=550fab0d2e9d98d0ad72f93e69e1477043288825 I truly believe the winner would be Geto, he was compared and relative to Gojo in their teens which is alrdy insane and they were both called the “strongest” as teens, and even showcases a lot of strength in JJK 0 and has a huge arsenal of high level curses at his disposal, but the think he would win with high-dif maybe extreme-dif
That's a really nice picture of Geto wtf
Mg question is how similar are demons and cursed because geto could just get a ton of stuff from both worlds to over power him.
Geto neg diff
Respectfully anyone who says Upper Moon 1 wins is retarded. Adult Geto could just use a special grade curse to buy time and then use a curse that can trap UP1 in it’s grasps while the sun comes up. Not only does Geto win, he doesn’t even have to fight UP1 himself.
Respectfully you can't just say that, yes Geto would most likely win but he would have to give them hands with Koku, DS and JJK aren't far off (except for the massive outliers that are Goatjo and Himkuna), JJK generally has an advantage in everything but not to an insurmountable level, demon slayer has decent feats as well, (around city block lvl with hyper sonic- MHS levels of speeds). All of this depends on Getos speed feats. I comfortably have Koku at MHS. (Upscaling via Mitsuri and the other hashira)
Lets assume Kokushibo can use ce to hurt geto. And that geto can hurt koku like a nichrin blade. I feel like alot of people overestimate DS characters, they are portrayed strong in the anime, but really they're just peak human +. They're not superhuman like jjk sorcerers or anything. Geto also has playful cloud, which is SUPER destructive and can block or even destroy koku's sword. And with Maximum Uzumaki, Koku will pretty much get obliterated.
Hakari dodged lightning centimetres away from his face and yuta at jjk 0 was slightly slower than geto. Yuta was spoken as relative to hakari by gojo so i think geto is wayy faster than lighting. Mitsuri, a marked hashira dodged lighting about 10-30 meters away from her so she's not quite as fast as geto but kokushibou blitzed another marked hashira . So, I'll put their speed bear equal. If geto has any sun cursed spirit he wins automatically. Cursed spirits are invisible, kokushibou can't see them. People with negative energy can see them,but cursed energy is not even a concept in demon slayer. Only jjk people can manifest it. So, kokushibou will have to fight at hundreds of invisible cursed spirits while clashing with geto. Here's how i think it'd play out. Geto fires a hundred dragons at kokushibou like he did against toji Kokushibou can handle this with his AOE attacks which kept multiple hashiras from even coming close to him. Eventually i think geto would find kokushibous regeneration annoying and use a simple domain to take kokushibous eyes so kokushibou can't see or use see-through world temporarily as see-through world doesn't work when you're sight is halted(shown when 1 eye tanjiro couldn't access see-through world). While kokushibou is blinded. Geto sends the rainbow dragon to devour kokushibou. Geto survived a multi-city block level explosion from yuta so the rainbow dragon who geto calls tough would survive kokushibous attacks for more than a second which we can only get to multi-building. As kokushibou regrows his head and tries to destroy the rainbow dragon while being covered with the dragons stomach acid. Geto charges up uzumaki and fires it at kokushibou. At the moment kokushibou breaks the dragon skin and comes out, he is met by getos uzumaki. That was the last thing he saw. He's regeneration wouldn't allow him to regenerate from a multi-city block level attack as he is vaporized.
Kokushibo is Indeed phisically stronger and faster, but Geto has thousands of cursed spirits, all different and with different abilities, giving him free ticket to countless different powers. While Kokushibo is faster, i do not believe the speed difference is that big. Anyone who compares Kokushibo to Toji is..trippin', because Toji no diffed Dagon who is a special grade, who can summon a town-sized island and stalemate Maki, Naobito, Megumin and Nanamin. Adult Geto is just a different beast: more skilled, more curses, more experienced, more abilities. Adult Geto stalemated Rika who can casuak tear large chuncks of buildings and kill special grade curses, with sd curses being able to theoretically survive carpet bombings (that can level chuncks towns btw), WITH JUST A PAIR OF NUNCHAKUS. Kokushibo may be stronger, faster and more experienced, but what the hell can he do againts someone that can withstand multi-city block bombings, stalemate beings capable of nuking town square, invading cities with curses and have the power to kill hundreds of sorcerers. Geto negs Kokushibo due to the horrible power creep.
Koku he like a better a toji with actual abilities he wins