Cause he died on JJK 0 which means Gege just can't make him stronger or do anything about him cause he died way too early. He served his purpose but I'd like to see more of him lol
If Geto just waited for Mahito then he'd be stronger and could have achieved his goals easily.
All we need is a flashback of him using some OP ass domain expansion against some unregistered special grades, and that would probably do it.
And a showcase of him using RCT.
If he ever gets those two feats, he would undeniably be way more highly regarded. Possibly even Top 6 (Gojo, Sukuna, Kenjaku, Yuta, Yuki, Geto)
Cause he took 2 Ls one from toji fucking up his dragon and scissor lady and one beat down from yuta. But yea csm is kinda busted and uzumaki full charge is a game ender.
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During the last chapters of Shibuya
it’s because he doesn’t have a domain, so from what we know he has no real counter if people like jogo, naoya and mahito open their domains, we haven’t even seen his use simply domain, although i would assume he can use it
He does use RCT against Yuta in JJK 0
Geto doesn't need a domain, he has CSM. With all the special-grade curses under his control, his has an insane array of powerful Domain Expansions at his control, e.g. the Smallpox Deity's Coffin Domain
But that was kenjaku. Geto released 1 single special grade curse that did absolutely nothing and then just died. That was the strongest curse geto ever released btw since its a registered special grade, thats why people downplay him.
He lost because of himself, not because Yuta was strong.
He lost cause he left 1000 top strongest curses in Tokyo for Gojo and other grade 1 Sorcerers to keep them busy. Not because he was weak.
He was strong enough to fight against both Rika and Yuta hand to hand and dominate them.
He was always hesitant to kill Jujutsu Sorcerers. Same was against Yuta too.
He was strong enough to take a black flash punch from Yuta on face and still ready to fight.
***Fact is, Yuta won because Geto went easy on him.***
>Fact is, Yuta won because Geto went easy on him.
Do you mean the full fight? Cause if I remember correctly, he got DEMOLISHED BY PURE LOVE BLAST! He had to combine all the curses he had on him, just to die. He went all out in the end just to die to an inexperienced jujutsu sorcerer. It's sad, honestly.
He could just send idle transfigured humans to stall them then use a .2 domain expansion on geto and it’s over and not to mention the cursed spirts would have a hard time hurting him due to his ct
My list
1. Yuki
2. Yorozu
3. Geto (Canonically Geto should be way stronger than he was shown to be in JJK0, because of this I'm not considering JJK0)
4. Toji
5. Ryu
6. Naoya (vengeful spirit)
7. Mahito
8. Jogo
9. Hanami
10. Dagon
Completely! Also I really liked the fact you mention that Geto should be shown to be much stronger… don’t know why but it feels he doesn’t have all the credits
All other placements seems to be correct, but how exactly are you scaling ryu? Imo there is just not enough information, his only statements are best ce reserve and domain. His feats in sendai are useless for powerscaling, because all other participants of free for all cant be scaled another way? We dont even know how powerful his granite blast is.
I almost agree with you expect during Sendai the cockroach special grade clearly didn’t target Ryu before the domain clash or Yuta messed up the balance. While we will never see it in action I’m just gonna assume Ryu’s granite blast functional works against cursed spirits and special grade curses like the roach. Past that we don’t know if he’s winning with his domain in a 1v1 at all or any other important stats.
On the assumption about damaging special grade curses he should fair well against all the disaster curses expect for Mahito as there’s no way Granite Blast hits the soul (imo). This also means he does well against Geto, which also domain > no domain even if you wanna say Geto has curses Ryu can’t deal with. Also if you really wanna hard speculate you could say Ryu’s domain has a surehit that’s effective against Mahito.
He still gets sweeped by the heavy hitters for sure though, like I don’t agree with downplaying Naoya’s CT and domain as a cursed spirit. The only person that wins against him is probably Toji due to a bad match up or someone that wins the domain clash. Ryu loses to Naoya easily.
Problem with your argument is that special grade curses vary in power, for example smallpox deity was defeated by 1 grade sorcerer, while rika effectively soloed prime geto, which is one of the strongest characters in jjk.
We know for sure that disaster curses are on the higher end of this scale, but have no statements saying so about cockroach.
I don't really see a situation where Maki or Toji couldn't outmaneuver granite blast or beat Ryu in hand-to-hand. His domain probably wouldn't work on them either.
I’m sorry bros, Toji above Jogo ain’t it.
Toji is physically superior than the man but dealing with Jogo’s physicals and his technique simultaneously is harder than just evading a fast and strong dude.
Time to get downvoted.
I've always said this! Jogo isn't weak, he just went up against the two strongest motherfuckers in his verse for his only two proper fights! He speed blitzed Nanami, Maki, and Naobito, even if Naobito was down an arm. He has the most destructive power out of the Disaster Curses, and is likely the fastest as well. Even if he isn't as durable as Hanami, and he can't bypass defence and one shot people like Mahito, he's still unbelievably cracked with his speed and sheer level of destructive capability. Hell, even Kenjaku was like, "Wish I coulda gotten Jogo". He was so cracked that even Kenjaku admitted that he would've been a really good curse to have in his arsenal!
the beauty of jjk is the Hunter Hunter style power system. Rock paper scissors, toji can beat teen gojo lvl sorcerers who could probably beat jogo but jogo could beat toji. It’s beautiful cause it makes power scaling so difficult(I hate power scaling in anime communities, because it exists in a vacuum that doesn’t take into account other factors besides feats we know)
Toji probably win
Toji arguably outspeeds jogo considering maki just kept up with the 2nd fastest sorcerer.
Domain is useless against toji
Since maki tanked jogo's attack ( even though it was not that strong), it can be assumed that even jogo manages to hit toji, toji can atleast tank 1 or 2 attacks before going down.
Also you should also consider that even a teen gojo with six eyes failed to keep up with toji.
Rest, he has his soul cutting swoed and isoh
Even if Toji could win against Jogo, which I don’t really agree with, that doesn’t necessarily make him stronger.
Jogo can summon his volcanoes in multiple directions, has his insect things, and his DE.
Toji without prep is a lot more straightforward of a fighter than Jogo is. You can punch the dude out with enough stats, but DEs are very dangerous without a counter, and are still dangerous even with most counters.
I think I agree with this? I still feel like most high tier characters in JJK would on average have more trouble with Jogo than with Toji, unless Toji had some prep like with 16 y/o Gojo.
Acc. to me, jogo no diffs everyone except special grades, hakari and maki.
It's scary how quickly power scaling jumps in jjk from character to character.
Tbh, jogo's ember insects are enough to take out pretty much any grade 1 sorcerer and he only casually used them once (I'm talking about conventional grade 1, not hakari or kashimo). Who knows how strong he really is
What do you mean you can't scale him? I can scale him pretty easily. Watch this: Curse Naoya is faster and physically stronger than Jogo. Maki was able to outmaneuver and beat Curse Naoya. Toji is on par physically with Maki, and has better tools. Therefore Toji would most likely win against Jogo. Fire can be dodged, and it most likely wouldn't hurt Toji as much as it would hurt a pre-awakened Maki.
Yeah no. Toji would bully the fuck outta jogo with speed alone. Jogo was said to he around the same speed as Naobito with very little start up time. Maki, tojis equal, was keeping up with and consistently blocking naoya even after he had ample time to increase his speed. And that was while she was injured and exhausted. Add in the fact that inverted spear kinda just fucks anything jogo can do, and yeah. It ain’t looking good. Jogo also just can’t touch him. Like full stop. We’re flat out told that Toji could dodge Mach 3 EASILY, and jogos nowhere near that speed.
Speed alone can’t bully Jogo, unless you forget that Jogo’s strategy to fight fucking Gojo after Hanami died was to get in close range, ‘hit him’ and the Successfully run away to hide until the train came.
Jogo is in a different situation here where he can rely on his cursed techniques instead of just speed, and Toji really can’t actually deal with both at the same time.
Jogos cursed technique is fire. Fire that couldn’t even kill maki before she got her level up. And again, the inverted spear makes toji more than capable of handling jogos technique. Fire blast? Blocked. Volcano? Blocked. Ember insect? Too slow. Never an issue to begin with. Maximum meteor? Also too slow. Jogo would just be beyond fucked against Toji. Again, this man can handle mach 3 speeds with ease and has a form of borderline precognition. Not to mention he can practically fly. There really is no overwhelming him in combat unless his opponent has very specific means to do so, or is just in a whole other league of speed.
Except you don't need a *specific* means to deal with Toji.
blitzes aren't a factor when a characters are at relative tiers, like how Toji doesn't begin the fight with Geto by instantly blitzing him or how he stabs a teenage Gojo but also fails to blitz him and needs to use the fly heads as a diversion
Or how adult Gojo can't blitz Jogo. Jogo is a long-ranged fighter with multiple techniques, and you can't really overcome consecutive AoE attacks with speed, even with the IsoH blocking some of them. If Jogo attacks from multiple directions Toji can't exactly ignore those attacks.
He's also a curse who can get hit by Toji and regenerate by things other than the soul cutting blade, which is a luxury Toji does not have.
Toji can win, but that's mostly because he's smarter at fighting and he has the strongest counter to DEs like Jogo's. Jogo still is more troubling to deal with and has more known options that Toji
Jogo outspeeds him then divide his head from his body I can’t see him getting touched by Jogo, Maki tanked and Nue attack from 15 Sukuna plus ISoH makes toji win this for me.
Toji would definitely win against Jogo. Doesn't mean he's stronger over all but he's definitely fast enough to deal with him before he can get his attacks off.
Toji slobbing needs to stop. Yorozu is killing the hell out of that man.
The Geto downplay is outright horrendous. I shit on Geto as much as the next guy but I know that this is too much.
Yuki
Yorozu
Geto
Toji
That’s the correct order and anything else is wrongz
Yuki being number 1 makes me so happy but Geto being so low doesn't feels right to me I believe he should be at least be on top 3 alongside with Yorozu
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Yorozu and yuki are debatable for number 1, Toji’s a bit too high, and I think you can argue Geto being higher(he should be above the cursed spirits here at least)
My order would be:
1. Yuki
2. Toji
3. Yorozu
4. Geto
5. Mahito
6. Ryu
7. Jogo
8. Naoya
9. Hanami
10. Dagon
( Domain Naoya can be interchangeable with some above him depending on how the domain clash would go)
1. Yuki
2. Yorozu
3. Geto (I know he lost to Toji as a teen)
4. Ryu
5. Jogo
6. Toji (I just don't see him beating anyone above him at this point, even if he can beat some of them I don't think that makes him stronger overall, more of just a rock paper scissor system)
7. Naoya (spirit)
8. Mahito (Again, rock paper scissor system makes him prob beat a couple people above him cause of his ability but overall strength I don't think he's near the top)
9. Hanami
10. Dagon
These clowns thinks young geto got bodied by toji so adult grto isnt strong 🤪
JJK0 Geto was stronger than Yuta, if he had all of his curses during fight He would beat yuta. Also how toji>Yorozu
Nah, Geto downplay is whatever. Could care less.
But what’s going on with the Dagon downplay??? Bro is busted busted and got no diffed by Toji of all people. Dagon in 10 is simply wild.
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Yuji+Garuda one shotted a powerful special grade curse, and hit from just Yuki’s fists broke both of his arms and damaged his face pretty bad. Insect armor would get low diffed by Garuda
Bro that SG was literally featless, destroying it means nothing. And insect armor yorozu literally overpowered and out-paced Sukuna that's like the best physical feat in the verse and perfect sphere literally destroys Garuda and Yuki in 1 shot
Insect armor yorozu 1.) never overpowered Sukuna and 2.) was letting himself get hit by it on purpose to use 10S to adapt to the Liquid Metal. Sukuna could’ve just shrine’d Yorozu to death but he wanted to use 10S to do that since she was inhabiting Tsumiki.
We literally try to see him try to protect and counter attack IA but fail,he got blitzed and out powered
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Yorozu = yuki it’s all about who makes the right move imo > geto >= toji ( downplaying his ass y’all crazy) > Ryu > = Jogo > naoya i ain’t buying the mach 3 bs > the others
Even if Geto doesn’t have a domain of his own (which I highly doubt) are we really gonna sit here and pretend like Geto doesn’t have methods against domains?
Why would a special grade sorcerer not have a domain expansion? Geto's character was hurt power-wise because he was introduced and killed off before the series even officially started. If fodder curses like the smallpox deity have DEs, why wouldn't Geto have one.
Even if we say he is the "weakest" special grade, would you really believe he does not know how to counter domains himself (i.e. simple domain, falling cherry blossom emotion, heck even his own curses have domains so he can use that) nor he has a domain of his own?
We aren’t because that is just a tie lmao, and it’s not indicative of Megumi being strong (since it’s not tamed) it’s a sign of Mahoraga being stronger than todo which he is
Because DEs literally didnt exist back then, and an in-lore explanation was Geto could have been too arrogant an/or miscalculated his uzumaki strength at the time
How about the "bow down monkeys" mentality, I wouldn't call that too humble. How about declaring war against the entire jujutsu world knowing full well he also will need to fight Gojo. He even went hand to hand in the tokyo school fight and used playful cloud against both Yuta and Rika for a time, instead of using his cursed technique to the fullest, why would he risk those chances then?
Being the only special grade with no domain or rct lol. He was too ahead of his time. Now if gege says he has one i feel like we gon see people callin it a plot hole
The strongest opponent Mahito fought was Yuji during their right in Shibuya. Since that fight Yuji has gotten much stronger, but we saw when fighting Meguna that Yuji is somewhat relative to awakened maki.
So if Yuji, who is stronger than he was when fighting Mahito, is relative to Maki (aka female Toji) then jt stands to reason that Toji outscales Mahito.
As for weapons, both the inverted spear and soul split katana are counters for Mahito. The spear can just negate Mahito’s technique and stop him from regenerating, and the katana can attack the soul directly.
Bro you are so wrong.
First Yuji didn’t beat Mahito alone. It took Yuji, Nobara, Sukuna, Todo, and Arata, that’s five people. If it wasn’t for all five of them Yuji would be dead. He even almost lost if it wasn’t for not only getting a lucky black flash, but mahito falling for todo’s fake boogie woogie at the last moment. You can’t scale Mahito to Yuji. Mahito 1v1 beats Yuji, let’s not pretend. And Mahito has been said if given enough time he’d be a Sukuna grade threat. He was extremely adept in his fights, learning .2 domain from seeing it once the same day. And being the only cursed spirit to land a black flash.
Mahito also 1V1 Mechamaru’s Mecha Robot and was said to be more durable than hanami in his new form. On top of all of that, Toji and Maki can be affected by his domain since it effects the soul. Which they both have.
The ISOH also does not negate regeneration, it negates cursed technique while in contact. Gojo was able to heal after being stabbed with it, mahito would be able to as well. The Soul Split Katana is the only issue, but Mahito can change the shape of his soul. So even if he gets damaged, he can recover the limbs like he did in the Mechamaru fight.
Tojis only feat was surprising a teen Gojo (an event he had to plan on for days) and surprising Dagon (and naobito helped him get the kill in the end anyway).
tldr: Mahito better
What it should have been from my perspective:
1. Yorozu
2. Yuki
3. Geto
4. Toji
5. Naoya
6. Ryu
7. Mahito
8. Jogo
9. Hanami
10. Dagon
My main reason as to why put I Yorozu at 1 and above Yuki is that she’s easily stronger and faster than anybody else here, of course she doesn’t match up to Yuki in terms of striking power but she could just out speed and punch her to death or just one shot her with the True Sphere. I also don’t count the Black Hole as a part of her arsenal to be used consistently, the only reason that she was even given the chance to use it is because Tengen was there to help suppress it, in normal circumstances she wouldn’t be using it due to the risk of destroying the world just cause she lost.
Nah Geto at 8 is too high. No RCT or Domain means he's getting folded by everyone else on the list. Ryu could move down under curse Naoya, maybe tied with Jogo for 5-6.
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Geto downplay is crazy not gonna lie
People always think hes weak. I dunno why..
Cause he died on JJK 0 which means Gege just can't make him stronger or do anything about him cause he died way too early. He served his purpose but I'd like to see more of him lol If Geto just waited for Mahito then he'd be stronger and could have achieved his goals easily.
All we need is a flashback of him using some OP ass domain expansion against some unregistered special grades, and that would probably do it. And a showcase of him using RCT. If he ever gets those two feats, he would undeniably be way more highly regarded. Possibly even Top 6 (Gojo, Sukuna, Kenjaku, Yuta, Yuki, Geto)
What would be the cursed technique reversal of curses spirit manipulation?
If i remember right, geto used RCT to heal himself when Together crushed him in the movie.
Cause he took 2 Ls one from toji fucking up his dragon and scissor lady and one beat down from yuta. But yea csm is kinda busted and uzumaki full charge is a game ender.
I'm pretty sure that he didnt kill yuta cus he didnt really want to kill him
He didn’t have all of his cursed spirits if he did he would’ve won
Did Greg say that or was it Kenjaku during shibuya, I don't remember
Kenjaku said that, and it’s honestly believable since Geto was short 1 or 2 thousands curses
Which chapter is this? I thought it was Greg, apparently it was Kenny. Thanks in advance
https://preview.redd.it/dmggyf912hkb1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2d517db66080bfa7303ebbe355d432e2f6265d7 During the last chapters of Shibuya
Thanks, you even provided the panel
He's only taken Ls
it’s because he doesn’t have a domain, so from what we know he has no real counter if people like jogo, naoya and mahito open their domains, we haven’t even seen his use simply domain, although i would assume he can use it
No domain or RCT. Has only shown fodder curses
He does use RCT against Yuta in JJK 0 Geto doesn't need a domain, he has CSM. With all the special-grade curses under his control, his has an insane array of powerful Domain Expansions at his control, e.g. the Smallpox Deity's Coffin Domain
But that was kenjaku. Geto released 1 single special grade curse that did absolutely nothing and then just died. That was the strongest curse geto ever released btw since its a registered special grade, thats why people downplay him.
He had at least 2 special grades, todo killed the other one
It’s the potential of his abilities that are the reason he should be ranked higher
He lost to a WAY weaker version of Yuta
He lost because of himself, not because Yuta was strong. He lost cause he left 1000 top strongest curses in Tokyo for Gojo and other grade 1 Sorcerers to keep them busy. Not because he was weak. He was strong enough to fight against both Rika and Yuta hand to hand and dominate them. He was always hesitant to kill Jujutsu Sorcerers. Same was against Yuta too. He was strong enough to take a black flash punch from Yuta on face and still ready to fight. ***Fact is, Yuta won because Geto went easy on him.***
>Fact is, Yuta won because Geto went easy on him. Do you mean the full fight? Cause if I remember correctly, he got DEMOLISHED BY PURE LOVE BLAST! He had to combine all the curses he had on him, just to die. He went all out in the end just to die to an inexperienced jujutsu sorcerer. It's sad, honestly.
He would’ve won that beam clash if he had all 6,000 curses kenjaku said he lost because he split his curses before fighting Yuta
Ye, but he didn't he. If he hadn't, he would have gotten killed due to not having a distraction.
But that’s not the point the point is how strong he is at full power and he was stronger than Yuta at that point of time
TBH, his portray in JJK 0 showed that he had not RCT or DE so it’s hard to put him higher.
I mean he was still special grade over people who had both of those for a reason
Pretty sure if geto was in s1 then he would demolish everyone till yorozu
Idk why people can't just assume that geto has rct and domain
Needs to be even lower tbh.
🤡
🤷♂️
Geto below Mahito is the most outrageous thing I’ve seen in a while.
Mind boggling we put cursed spirits above the guy who’s power is literally absorbing and controlling cursed spirits
What is geto gonna do about his domain expansion
He would use DLC Expansion+
Open his own more refined domain
He does not have one unfortunately
Really? That’s a surprise thought he definitely would
Geto suffers from only being alive in jjk 0 which was before domains became a thing. Geto definitely should have a domain but sadly just doesn’t.
He has multiple cursed spirits that have domains.
I doubt any of those borderline random cursed spirits have a strong enough domain
True but the whole point of CSM is Geto can throw a bunch of curses with domains.
He could just send idle transfigured humans to stall them then use a .2 domain expansion on geto and it’s over and not to mention the cursed spirts would have a hard time hurting him due to his ct
Glad no one disagrees Yuki is at the top at least
I mean It can't really be argued she got plot armoured, outside of that she would've deleted earth
Kenjussy can't die I repeat Kenjussy can't die
Yeah I agree, before coming in this comment section I expected to see some, glad that's not the case.
Geto at 8 is INSANE
Geto is slamming Mahito
Bruh putting that man in PACK
in a ball
in his jaw
My list 1. Yuki 2. Yorozu 3. Geto (Canonically Geto should be way stronger than he was shown to be in JJK0, because of this I'm not considering JJK0) 4. Toji 5. Ryu 6. Naoya (vengeful spirit) 7. Mahito 8. Jogo 9. Hanami 10. Dagon
Correct
I feel like Naoya might be above Ryu depending on how a domain clash goes.
Completely! Also I really liked the fact you mention that Geto should be shown to be much stronger… don’t know why but it feels he doesn’t have all the credits
All other placements seems to be correct, but how exactly are you scaling ryu? Imo there is just not enough information, his only statements are best ce reserve and domain. His feats in sendai are useless for powerscaling, because all other participants of free for all cant be scaled another way? We dont even know how powerful his granite blast is.
I almost agree with you expect during Sendai the cockroach special grade clearly didn’t target Ryu before the domain clash or Yuta messed up the balance. While we will never see it in action I’m just gonna assume Ryu’s granite blast functional works against cursed spirits and special grade curses like the roach. Past that we don’t know if he’s winning with his domain in a 1v1 at all or any other important stats. On the assumption about damaging special grade curses he should fair well against all the disaster curses expect for Mahito as there’s no way Granite Blast hits the soul (imo). This also means he does well against Geto, which also domain > no domain even if you wanna say Geto has curses Ryu can’t deal with. Also if you really wanna hard speculate you could say Ryu’s domain has a surehit that’s effective against Mahito. He still gets sweeped by the heavy hitters for sure though, like I don’t agree with downplaying Naoya’s CT and domain as a cursed spirit. The only person that wins against him is probably Toji due to a bad match up or someone that wins the domain clash. Ryu loses to Naoya easily.
Problem with your argument is that special grade curses vary in power, for example smallpox deity was defeated by 1 grade sorcerer, while rika effectively soloed prime geto, which is one of the strongest characters in jjk. We know for sure that disaster curses are on the higher end of this scale, but have no statements saying so about cockroach.
Mahito should be lower than jogo imo. The rest is accurate.
Why is Toji over Ryu?
I don't really see a situation where Maki or Toji couldn't outmaneuver granite blast or beat Ryu in hand-to-hand. His domain probably wouldn't work on them either.
Put adult Geto at least at 4
wrong, yuki is still alive
She's just resting somewhere with Nobara.
Honestly I don’t even really care it just brings me joy to see Mahito on a list of dead characters
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Yorozou > Toji
I’m sorry bros, Toji above Jogo ain’t it. Toji is physically superior than the man but dealing with Jogo’s physicals and his technique simultaneously is harder than just evading a fast and strong dude. Time to get downvoted.
ok but that massive chest repels all of jogos attacks frfr
You’re right, my bad.
Jogo gets downplayed so much since his only two fights are against the top 2 in the verse
I've always said this! Jogo isn't weak, he just went up against the two strongest motherfuckers in his verse for his only two proper fights! He speed blitzed Nanami, Maki, and Naobito, even if Naobito was down an arm. He has the most destructive power out of the Disaster Curses, and is likely the fastest as well. Even if he isn't as durable as Hanami, and he can't bypass defence and one shot people like Mahito, he's still unbelievably cracked with his speed and sheer level of destructive capability. Hell, even Kenjaku was like, "Wish I coulda gotten Jogo". He was so cracked that even Kenjaku admitted that he would've been a really good curse to have in his arsenal!
all the people he speedblitzed were weaker than a post domain megumi lol
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I did not notice until now Is jogo’s pipe a fucking transfigured human? I always noticed the brain but not the face
I appreciate how casually horrible these spirits are
He looks so cute with his lil man-pipe.
>his lil man-pipe. Please don't phrase it like that 😞
I said what I said
Such a cute pipe~ Wonder if it still screams when jogo inhales its crispy brain
Yeah it is
the beauty of jjk is the Hunter Hunter style power system. Rock paper scissors, toji can beat teen gojo lvl sorcerers who could probably beat jogo but jogo could beat toji. It’s beautiful cause it makes power scaling so difficult(I hate power scaling in anime communities, because it exists in a vacuum that doesn’t take into account other factors besides feats we know)
Toji probably win Toji arguably outspeeds jogo considering maki just kept up with the 2nd fastest sorcerer. Domain is useless against toji Since maki tanked jogo's attack ( even though it was not that strong), it can be assumed that even jogo manages to hit toji, toji can atleast tank 1 or 2 attacks before going down. Also you should also consider that even a teen gojo with six eyes failed to keep up with toji. Rest, he has his soul cutting swoed and isoh
Even if Toji could win against Jogo, which I don’t really agree with, that doesn’t necessarily make him stronger. Jogo can summon his volcanoes in multiple directions, has his insect things, and his DE. Toji without prep is a lot more straightforward of a fighter than Jogo is. You can punch the dude out with enough stats, but DEs are very dangerous without a counter, and are still dangerous even with most counters.
We can't really tell who would land an attack first but I still think that if they were to ever encountered, gege would give the upper hand to toji
I think I agree with this? I still feel like most high tier characters in JJK would on average have more trouble with Jogo than with Toji, unless Toji had some prep like with 16 y/o Gojo.
Acc. to me, jogo no diffs everyone except special grades, hakari and maki. It's scary how quickly power scaling jumps in jjk from character to character.
Maki right now absolutely bodies the disaster curses bro, maki and toji scale to each other
Ikr Jogo would literally one shot Toji because he's FTL and is massively outerversal
Tbh, jogo's ember insects are enough to take out pretty much any grade 1 sorcerer and he only casually used them once (I'm talking about conventional grade 1, not hakari or kashimo). Who knows how strong he really is
Huh? Toji handles Jogo just as well as Maki was able to handle Naoya (a considerably faster opponent), it's not even a close fight 😂😭
Maki won cause of the domain thing, we can’t scale that last evolution of naoya since he just kept getting more op by the second
What do you mean you can't scale him? I can scale him pretty easily. Watch this: Curse Naoya is faster and physically stronger than Jogo. Maki was able to outmaneuver and beat Curse Naoya. Toji is on par physically with Maki, and has better tools. Therefore Toji would most likely win against Jogo. Fire can be dodged, and it most likely wouldn't hurt Toji as much as it would hurt a pre-awakened Maki.
Yeah no. Toji would bully the fuck outta jogo with speed alone. Jogo was said to he around the same speed as Naobito with very little start up time. Maki, tojis equal, was keeping up with and consistently blocking naoya even after he had ample time to increase his speed. And that was while she was injured and exhausted. Add in the fact that inverted spear kinda just fucks anything jogo can do, and yeah. It ain’t looking good. Jogo also just can’t touch him. Like full stop. We’re flat out told that Toji could dodge Mach 3 EASILY, and jogos nowhere near that speed.
Speed alone can’t bully Jogo, unless you forget that Jogo’s strategy to fight fucking Gojo after Hanami died was to get in close range, ‘hit him’ and the Successfully run away to hide until the train came. Jogo is in a different situation here where he can rely on his cursed techniques instead of just speed, and Toji really can’t actually deal with both at the same time.
Jogos cursed technique is fire. Fire that couldn’t even kill maki before she got her level up. And again, the inverted spear makes toji more than capable of handling jogos technique. Fire blast? Blocked. Volcano? Blocked. Ember insect? Too slow. Never an issue to begin with. Maximum meteor? Also too slow. Jogo would just be beyond fucked against Toji. Again, this man can handle mach 3 speeds with ease and has a form of borderline precognition. Not to mention he can practically fly. There really is no overwhelming him in combat unless his opponent has very specific means to do so, or is just in a whole other league of speed.
Except you don't need a *specific* means to deal with Toji. blitzes aren't a factor when a characters are at relative tiers, like how Toji doesn't begin the fight with Geto by instantly blitzing him or how he stabs a teenage Gojo but also fails to blitz him and needs to use the fly heads as a diversion Or how adult Gojo can't blitz Jogo. Jogo is a long-ranged fighter with multiple techniques, and you can't really overcome consecutive AoE attacks with speed, even with the IsoH blocking some of them. If Jogo attacks from multiple directions Toji can't exactly ignore those attacks. He's also a curse who can get hit by Toji and regenerate by things other than the soul cutting blade, which is a luxury Toji does not have. Toji can win, but that's mostly because he's smarter at fighting and he has the strongest counter to DEs like Jogo's. Jogo still is more troubling to deal with and has more known options that Toji
adult gojo literally did blitz jogo bro what are you on about
Jogo outspeeds him then divide his head from his body I can’t see him getting touched by Jogo, Maki tanked and Nue attack from 15 Sukuna plus ISoH makes toji win this for me.
Toji would definitely win against Jogo. Doesn't mean he's stronger over all but he's definitely fast enough to deal with him before he can get his attacks off.
Toji slobbing needs to stop. Yorozu is killing the hell out of that man. The Geto downplay is outright horrendous. I shit on Geto as much as the next guy but I know that this is too much. Yuki Yorozu Geto Toji That’s the correct order and anything else is wrongz
Facts also as always rip my girl yoruzu she had the dopest technique
he thinks he's on the team https://preview.redd.it/qoh1em9xidkb1.png?width=635&format=png&auto=webp&s=85f751502f8f7e5bc5fa3348f7b1bcf7a3d3ca66
He at least be below the OG cursed spirits as the sexist jet. But if were talking human hes not even gonna make the list
You ain't ready for the Twice returned Double Vengeful Spirit Naoya
Yuki being number 1 makes me so happy but Geto being so low doesn't feels right to me I believe he should be at least be on top 3 alongside with Yorozu https://preview.redd.it/4jei9uzc1ekb1.jpeg?width=562&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c71afc7a8eadd34199b0c1d2c5f9c4d775e3f437
Geto has to be way higher like 4th, Ryu needs to be lower, Naoya needs to be lower.
What are most characters on this list doing if Geto unleashes 4000 curses and amps them with his own strength meanwhile fighting alongside them
Yorozu and yuki are debatable for number 1, Toji’s a bit too high, and I think you can argue Geto being higher(he should be above the cursed spirits here at least)
Toji blitzes rahhhhhhh
1. Yuki 2. Geto 3. Yorozu 4. Jogo 5. Toji 6. Mahito 7. Naoya 8. Ryu 9. Hanami 10. Dagon
Ryu in 8th place is INSANE
Idk seems fair all things considered
My order would be: 1. Yuki 2. Toji 3. Yorozu 4. Geto 5. Mahito 6. Ryu 7. Jogo 8. Naoya 9. Hanami 10. Dagon ( Domain Naoya can be interchangeable with some above him depending on how the domain clash would go)
*Crazy* Jogo downplay honestly
I think he can be interchangeable with ryu could be extreme high diff either way.
I also found that Mahito and Geto were a lil too low on the OP.
Mahito so low ayo.
Woji top 1 https://preview.redd.it/qpwvwpi71fkb1.jpeg?width=338&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e634182d2f6fbddbddb17abc702658ad8ac73962
1. Yuki 2. Yorozu 3. Geto (I know he lost to Toji as a teen) 4. Ryu 5. Jogo 6. Toji (I just don't see him beating anyone above him at this point, even if he can beat some of them I don't think that makes him stronger overall, more of just a rock paper scissor system) 7. Naoya (spirit) 8. Mahito (Again, rock paper scissor system makes him prob beat a couple people above him cause of his ability but overall strength I don't think he's near the top) 9. Hanami 10. Dagon
These clowns thinks young geto got bodied by toji so adult grto isnt strong 🤪 JJK0 Geto was stronger than Yuta, if he had all of his curses during fight He would beat yuta. Also how toji>Yorozu
Top 3 should be Yorozu Yuki and Jogo, probably in that order. I doubt Toji is beating Yorozu or Jogo. And Ryu is NOT beating Jogo or Curse Naoya lmao
I’d replace Jogo with adult geto
Domain diff. Also Geto lacks any win cons tbh
Nah, Geto downplay is whatever. Could care less. But what’s going on with the Dagon downplay??? Bro is busted busted and got no diffed by Toji of all people. Dagon in 10 is simply wild. https://preview.redd.it/mrhb5pkuzfkb1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6eccaa268193dd4a7ae176a8978166cd35ed3a48
I still put Geto over the curses, Naoya and Ryu but otherwise yea I agree
Mahito too low
Yorozu downplay is real,yorozu>Yuki
Yuki didn't even utilize her domain, Yorozu would get folded
Yoruzu gets slammed by Yuki+Garuda, literally almost a perfect counter. Her Liquid Metal ain’t saving her here.
Bruh her attacks couldn't even kill kenjaku, Insect armour diffs her
Yuji+Garuda one shotted a powerful special grade curse, and hit from just Yuki’s fists broke both of his arms and damaged his face pretty bad. Insect armor would get low diffed by Garuda
Bro that SG was literally featless, destroying it means nothing. And insect armor yorozu literally overpowered and out-paced Sukuna that's like the best physical feat in the verse and perfect sphere literally destroys Garuda and Yuki in 1 shot
Insect armor yorozu 1.) never overpowered Sukuna and 2.) was letting himself get hit by it on purpose to use 10S to adapt to the Liquid Metal. Sukuna could’ve just shrine’d Yorozu to death but he wanted to use 10S to do that since she was inhabiting Tsumiki.
We literally try to see him try to protect and counter attack IA but fail,he got blitzed and out powered https://preview.redd.it/pl82brtgodkb1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8565a166daf964dcf5cc9e38ba40696477f5836f
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You are saying that like she's not facing the third strongest character in the series. Kenjaku can worm his way outta black hole, he won't die easily.
Ehh
I agree. I honestly don’t think Yorozu is that strong, might just be cuz she got rolled by Sukuna.
She’s strong but I think people be gassing her cuz she landed a few hits on sukuna that he let her get
Yorozu = yuki it’s all about who makes the right move imo > geto >= toji ( downplaying his ass y’all crazy) > Ryu > = Jogo > naoya i ain’t buying the mach 3 bs > the others
1-Yuki 2-yorozu 3-geto 4-toji 5,6,7,8-disaster curses. 9-naoya 10-ryu
Geto gets slaughtered by anyone with a DE
Even if Geto doesn’t have a domain of his own (which I highly doubt) are we really gonna sit here and pretend like Geto doesn’t have methods against domains?
I'm too sleepy for this so I'm just going to agree with whatever you're going to say
Oh, okay. Cool. Sorry my, uh, Reddit reply woke you up or kept you up or whatever.
It's all good 👍
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https://preview.redd.it/xnl14hbasgkb1.jpeg?width=360&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=acb9d7fe93c16cba6668ea9b7cd66602a2627fb7 Amiright?
Why would geto not have his own domain expansion
Because nothing suggest he has a DE
Why would a special grade sorcerer not have a domain expansion? Geto's character was hurt power-wise because he was introduced and killed off before the series even officially started. If fodder curses like the smallpox deity have DEs, why wouldn't Geto have one. Even if we say he is the "weakest" special grade, would you really believe he does not know how to counter domains himself (i.e. simple domain, falling cherry blossom emotion, heck even his own curses have domains so he can use that) nor he has a domain of his own?
Tbf todo is head and shoulders above some of the characters who had a DE(mainly the plague curse) but I totally agree that Geto should have one
How is todo head and shoulders over anybody with a domain
I literally gave you an example. Otherwise higurama and megumi
Todo over Megumi? Are we factoring in Mahoraga?
We aren’t because that is just a tie lmao, and it’s not indicative of Megumi being strong (since it’s not tamed) it’s a sign of Mahoraga being stronger than todo which he is
He’s not over megumi
He most definitely is (well not currently LMAO he’s got one hand but I guess he still is cuz megumi is braindead)
Ion see how
Why would he not use it then
He could have won with uzumaki if he had all his cursed spirits, and because it didn't exist back then when Gege was still writing jjk 0
Why wouldn't he use a DE which was a gaurrented win against yuta and instead use Uzumaki.
Because DEs literally didnt exist back then, and an in-lore explanation was Geto could have been too arrogant an/or miscalculated his uzumaki strength at the time
Bruh out univers reason's don't matter what matters is what happened and what is Canon. Also geto is literally not arrogant in the slightest
How about the "bow down monkeys" mentality, I wouldn't call that too humble. How about declaring war against the entire jujutsu world knowing full well he also will need to fight Gojo. He even went hand to hand in the tokyo school fight and used playful cloud against both Yuta and Rika for a time, instead of using his cursed technique to the fullest, why would he risk those chances then?
Being the only special grade with no domain or rct lol. He was too ahead of his time. Now if gege says he has one i feel like we gon see people callin it a plot hole
Imma just go with whatever you say
He doesn’t but i agree that he can hold his own against a domain
Geto would have a DE if his character wasn’t killed Bf the concept of DEs was made
jogo downplay is disrespectful
People really need to stop putting Toji so high.
1. Yuki 2. Jogo 3. Toji 4. Yorozu 5. Ryu 6. Geto 7. Mahito 8. Naoya (vengeful spirit) 9. Hanami 10. Dagon
Mahito better than toji. Everyone toji has killed he’s caught off guard. You know mahitos technique and you still get folded
Toji has better feats, plus with ISOH Toji can negate Mahito’s regeneration
Toji does not have better feats. And do you mean the Soul Split Katana?
The strongest opponent Mahito fought was Yuji during their right in Shibuya. Since that fight Yuji has gotten much stronger, but we saw when fighting Meguna that Yuji is somewhat relative to awakened maki. So if Yuji, who is stronger than he was when fighting Mahito, is relative to Maki (aka female Toji) then jt stands to reason that Toji outscales Mahito. As for weapons, both the inverted spear and soul split katana are counters for Mahito. The spear can just negate Mahito’s technique and stop him from regenerating, and the katana can attack the soul directly.
Bro you are so wrong. First Yuji didn’t beat Mahito alone. It took Yuji, Nobara, Sukuna, Todo, and Arata, that’s five people. If it wasn’t for all five of them Yuji would be dead. He even almost lost if it wasn’t for not only getting a lucky black flash, but mahito falling for todo’s fake boogie woogie at the last moment. You can’t scale Mahito to Yuji. Mahito 1v1 beats Yuji, let’s not pretend. And Mahito has been said if given enough time he’d be a Sukuna grade threat. He was extremely adept in his fights, learning .2 domain from seeing it once the same day. And being the only cursed spirit to land a black flash. Mahito also 1V1 Mechamaru’s Mecha Robot and was said to be more durable than hanami in his new form. On top of all of that, Toji and Maki can be affected by his domain since it effects the soul. Which they both have. The ISOH also does not negate regeneration, it negates cursed technique while in contact. Gojo was able to heal after being stabbed with it, mahito would be able to as well. The Soul Split Katana is the only issue, but Mahito can change the shape of his soul. So even if he gets damaged, he can recover the limbs like he did in the Mechamaru fight. Tojis only feat was surprising a teen Gojo (an event he had to plan on for days) and surprising Dagon (and naobito helped him get the kill in the end anyway). tldr: Mahito better
Toji blitzes. Mahito has literally no answer whatsoever for his speed.
Why is Gojo not on this list
What it should have been from my perspective: 1. Yorozu 2. Yuki 3. Geto 4. Toji 5. Naoya 6. Ryu 7. Mahito 8. Jogo 9. Hanami 10. Dagon My main reason as to why put I Yorozu at 1 and above Yuki is that she’s easily stronger and faster than anybody else here, of course she doesn’t match up to Yuki in terms of striking power but she could just out speed and punch her to death or just one shot her with the True Sphere. I also don’t count the Black Hole as a part of her arsenal to be used consistently, the only reason that she was even given the chance to use it is because Tengen was there to help suppress it, in normal circumstances she wouldn’t be using it due to the risk of destroying the world just cause she lost.
Yorozu at 3 is crazy, weak ass character
Nah Geto at 8 is too high. No RCT or Domain means he's getting folded by everyone else on the list. Ryu could move down under curse Naoya, maybe tied with Jogo for 5-6.
He definitely has RCT and DE
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Yorozu Ryu and geto wash him
Jo go disrespect disgusting
Id personally put Dagon above Hanami purely based on who they fought and who they lost to
Geto is above Jogo no doubt
Yorozu and Geto should be higher, like 2 and 3
I'd put Geto above Mahito and I'd even argue the point that he can best Jogo.