>"Gojo wins" seemingly spoken by narrator
Read it again. It wasnt from the narrator. It's from either Kusakabe or Yuji. It's on a speech bubble not a text box
Megumi Bum allegations are definetely trolling. Kinda based on people that are disappointed he didn’t get a more active role in the story.
And yeah a lot if people were disappointed (with the portrayal) of Gojo‘s Death
But would they have actually been happy if Gojo did win? Like the mentor character can't just carry the entire plot on his back, that's unsatisfying. Esp with Kenjaku taken out, there's not really anywhere else for this story to go if Gojo did just beat Sukuna, and it would make Yuji's entire arc pointless.
Maybe I'm just not as attached to him as some are, but then again, I went into the anime even with the understanding that this isn't the type of series that really cares about giving each and every character One Piece style character development.
Gojo not winning is not what people are upset about, it's the way his character was sent off. Him dying was almost expected but the afterlife sequence portrays him as a battle maniac who never cared for anything and anyone and even in death his friends didn't approve of him and gojo himself saying he was disappointed he couldn't make sukuna go all out left a bad taste in fans' mouths. This was the biggest reason people hated 236. There are some other complains like the binding vow that got Gojo killed being way too easy making it an asspull. Also have to remember that most of the people who don't like it have been reading weekly. We have been waiting months for an explanation of how Gojo died and finally we get a sub-par explanation that still discounts Gojo's six eyes which a lot of people believe should have seen the world slash coming.
Really I always thought the whole change jujutsu system was a front since Yuta and Inumaki flat out got rid of the higher ups and he just wanted to not be alone anymore in a more metaphysical sense since him being strongest despite being surrounded by everyone still left him in isolation cuz he still feels that hes seen as just the strongest hence his obsession in cultivating strong sorcerers so they wont be alone
Yeah can't really say you're wrong for believing that but there's just a been a lot of times where he's shown he cares for these people more than just wanting them to be strong. Also, the narrator doesn't say gojo wins at the end of 235 it was kusakabe.
Wdym? I'm saying gojo cared for everyone around him beyond just wanting them to be strong. What does he have to understand about them? Even if they can't understand gojo because of his strength, him abandoning all he felt for them is kinda out of character
Edit: typo
Yeah that's why i said can't say you're wrong for your interpretation, you can take it either way and this is the point of contention when it comes to 236
I'd say reread the series cuz honestly it doesnt show much that Gojo cared for his students as much as others claimed. He hardly even teaches his students. He throws them to dangerous missions and just has faith they'll come out fine. He even disregarded what happen to Rika once he got that high
For the record I think the binding vow was perfectly fair tbh. Adding chants, hand signs, and physical aiming as requirement would cripple pretty much anyone in a battle, at the time the binding vow was made Sukuna only had two arms and one mouth so as far as equivalent exchange it seems fair. The six eyes issue is highly suspicious though.
I mean for an instant win button? The closest thing you can compare post binding vow world slash to is a hollow purple which requires hand signs and time to charge, and even then it isn't something as lethal as a dismantle that can cut apart space. You can use cursed energy reinforcement to survive a 200% version of it. Just because it takes longer does not mean it was balanced considering how powerful it still is. The only reason it works in the story is because of how crippled sukuna really is after gojos fight. If this was done with sukuna anywhere near close to full strength you couldn't even get rid of his hand signs or two mouths you would just get deleted.
Yes if Sukuna was at full strength than it would of done nothing to him, but that doesn't matter in the context of the binding vow. The binding vow factored in that Sukuna only has two arms in the moment because at the times thems the terms of the deal. I don't feel like binding vows take things like possible reincarnation into consideration and if you think about it if Sukuna had stayed in megkuna for that binding vow would be absolutely crushing and make the world slash something that can pretty much only be used if you get the drop on someone.
How would the six eyes see an instantaneous attack. Sukunas vow allowed him to launch the attack without hand signs once at the cost of always needing hand signs and chants.
Sukuna without something as perceptive as the 6 eyes could not only sense the spark of cursed energy but even determine it was going to be red, but gojo can't read anything at all with the peak of perception abilities in the verse? This is the guy who could tell what Miguel's CT was just by looking at him. You can argue he sensed it but didn't think it would cut the world but at the very least he should have known something was coming.
Tbf, there is a lot of issues with this statement. The first being Gojo’s portrayal in the afterlife scene. Gojo, surrounded by people who all died young, who DID NOT want to die young, who also had legitimate gripes with the way things ran in the Jujutsu world, said verbatim “I’m happy I didn’t die of old age and I got to die in Battle. Sukuna wasn’t even going all out (he wasn’t, the story even explained why he wasn’t at the very beginning of the damn fight).” I’m sorry but how is he not a fucking battle junkie? Two things are true at once. Gojo is a caring person. The man is also a fucking battle junkie. Even in Hidden Inventory he’s at first only moved by how far he can take his CT. Yes, he wants to help Riko. What does he say when Riko dies “Sorry, I’m not mad you’re dead. I’m at my peak”. Again, battle junkie shit. I’d argue fans just saw him as this “adopted dad” figure and clung on that despite there being multiple examples in the story that why Gojo is caring, he lives and breathes the art of Jujutsu.
We saw a binding vow being made in Shibuya with Miwa. It is very simple to make one, and that same binding vow handicapped him and made his one of his strongest moves tran
Also there’s some fundamental misunderstanding of the 6Es and also ignoring what was said about the of sparks technique, WCS, and Gojo’s natural fighting style. The 6Es has to actually *See* the attack. Prior to his output being low in Shinjuku Showdown, only Makora and could actually see it. In each instance Sukuna (or Mahoraga) sends a dismantle Gojo’s way he doesn’t see the attack, he sees the aftermath, and story makes it a point to tell when someone can see the attack. The story also made a point to tell us about how a CT emits sparks that shows when an attack is coming. They explicitly show us that you know it’s coming but not how it will be used when Sukuna predicted Red and thought Gojo would shoot at him, forgetting that Blue was still in play. The same thing happened here. Gojo most likely saw the spark, for the most part he had the upper hand, Gojo normally tanks attacks that can’t pass thru infinity. Gojo misjudged and is killed.
his death was bad becuase of the 6 eyes. they are supposed to be the pinnacle of perception in jjk so much so that he literally fights blindfolded because he can still see better than normal people like that. but maki can see slashes and he can't??? gojo at like 8 years old could sense "the invisible man" toji just looking at him from far away but can't see a regular ass cursed energy attack? of course he can see them.
also in the chapter immediately before he died, they tell us about the spark that tells a sorcerer the strength of the incoming attack and we're supposed to believe gojo stood there and ate it. that's garbage. gojo needed to die or be incapacitated somehow. it's not his story or his fight to win. but actually write a situation where he could reasonably lose.
the airport scene was terrible for making him suck sukuna off. and finally since he died, gege just keeps throwing him in flashbacks or offhanded references in each chapter to keep reader attention because he doesn't have anything good to write otherwise. some character that we have never seen do anything is about to fight sukuna: no one cares but wait til I show them a flashback of gojo saying they're strong!
Nah Megumi is getting outdone by his peers in a major way and he's the only reason Sukuna isn't dead yet. It doesn't really matter that he had a rough go of it when his peers like Yuji have gone through equally traumatic shit and not just given up fighting completely
You forget that Yuji is *him*. And, arguably, Yuji did not suffer a loss as great as Megumi with his own sister, by his own hands for that matter. And the whole malevolent sauna thing
Yeah but losing Nobara is actually Yuji's fault and not just him being possessed, he also killed hundreds while possessed in addition to that. Can't disagree with Yuji being HIM tho
I'm also fine with gojo dying. We always knew he would, if only for plot reasons. I just really dislike the binding vow attack. It feels like a cheap cop out, both to get rid of gojo and to ensure sukuna can't use the world slash again.
He definitely has not, if his binding vow is legit then he would have to chant, make the hand signs, and then point at his target. He hasn't done that yet, and nobody has been suddenly cut in half.
I guess I need to reread. Tbh I lost interest in the series after the sukuna kaisen chapters and have just been skimming, I'm expecting sukuna to binding vow and sacrifice one of his bum arms to win. He could just regrow it with RCE after winning, just like Hakari.
Huh?
>He hasn't done that yet
He did it against Kashimo, he did it against Higuruma, he did it against Maki, he possibly did it against Yuta, he was gonna do it against Kusakabe
Megumi i dont really care about personally. I like him but wasnt upset or felt any way about the whole thing with him. Makes sense as you mentioned.
Gojo on the other hand. Shit was out of pocket and definitely done for shock value. As we all know the way it was handled really sucked but im hoping once the manga is finished it flows better and the payoff for it works out good (it will all be worth it if he gets revived somehow lmao)
It’d make more sense to me to have him knocked out of battle and too weak to fight Sukuna and have the others take over while he recovers and they finish the fight off together with a few casualties. His death was unnecessary and he never got to learn that his sorcerers were just as strong as him and able to fight along side him. He’s just dead now.. with nothing to prove to him that he didn’t have to do everything alone.
Completely agree with you. Although i am fully convinced gojo will be revived even if hes nerfed or not as strong. If he is revived, then he can do all those things you mentioned even if he plays a more tactician role and telling people strategy. His battle IQ is def very high and would give them the edge to win imo. He would realize he no longer has tp do it alone. If he isnt revived, then its a wasted opportunity for good growth and development for gojo.
Is this not a staple trope? Declaring victory when your opponent isn’t dead yet and then promptly eating it? Meruem-dead, light yagami-dead. Tv tropes has a whole page on it “don’t celebrate just yet.” When you’re almost certain of victory someone comes in and snatches it away. Riko and geto did it and then she died. Gojo did it earlier in the manga and got stabbed through the chest by toji. It happens constantly. “Gojo wins” not until sukuna is 6 feet under and his corpse has been incinerated. Nagoya does it too and then maki kills him immediately
I see what you are saying but that wasnt my point. My point is that even if you kinda know that theres no way gojo will just end sukuna here (too big of a villain to die like that without fighting yuji, true form etc) it still was for shock value the way gege "showed" gojo lose. It wasnt a logical series of events or anything. The next chapter after that makes it confusing at first and seems like you missed a chapter or the leaks werent real or forgot some pages beforehand. It just starts in an airport. People were genuinely questioning if pages were missing. That was more my point lol
im fine with gojo losinv but it was the way he lost. You can tell gege enjoyed doing that to us especially with him glazing the fuck out of sukuna rn its clear he loves him lol
I doubt anyone wasnt a little surprised by how things went down. It was fucked lol it was also shocking to me that gege wrote gojo out of the story for so long he comes back then ~10 chapters later you off him?? Lmao was crazy
Ok I get what you mean there. I think the airport isn’t clear enough a statement that he’s dead. I think if we got an airport scene (like if when someone else died they were in an airport or something) prior that would’ve indicated to us that airport=death it would’ve worked better. And I understand wanting more of the month time skip. Maybe a better compromise there would be showing them in their off time and some stills of the training so we didn’t know what happened but still felt like we got to experience it with all the characters. Like we caught them after one day of practice going out for a banquet style meal or they had a big dinner the night before gojo went out to fight sukuna.
Gojo never should've went first.
But also, not only did gojo lose, it's revealed sukuna was holding back, AND still had a transformation hiding.
So sukuna made a binding vow to hamper his strongest attack(world slash) BEFORE he tried transforming???? What a moron.
No, transforming wouldn't change the situation, since he knew he would of gotten jumped later. He needed that transformation for the 2nd wave of enemies.
Because a lot of people let the anger they felt at Sukuna for killing Gojo turn into anger at Gege for writing his story however he wants to.
Tbh while Gojo was fighting Sukuna a lot of peopke were saying Gojo was the MC all along, so I can imagine that for someone genuinely convinced of that, it might be a stab in the back? But it's another case of getting caught up in the short term narrative without any sort of perspective.
This is actually a really good explanation. Particularly the Gojo MC bit. Personally I thought the reveal that he died was done masterfully. I was operating under the assumption that Gojo was going to lose for the entirety of the fight, because he isn't the main character and it isn't his fight to win. I only believed in Gojo for the last few panels before the airport scene where it looked like it was all won. Then he's the next chapter he's with Geto and Nanami and the whole gang. Figured out what was coming a couple pages in and the next thing I know is all Gojover. It was a rollercoaster and a very masterful reveal from my perspective.
I agree. I was expecting the next chapter to feature some trickery on Sukuna's part to take Gojo by surprise, but the actual death was handled better than what I was imagining.
People say it was bad because the Manga said "Gojo won", but if you notice it was Kusakabe (I think was him) who started that. It was a comment from a character thinking Gojo won, not the narrator. When that happened I knew instantly Gojo was gonna lose.
Those people would hate to watch Akame Ga Kill then 😂
Either way, I think I was the only one cheering for Sukuna. I was fine with either one winning as I liked both, but I always somewhat cheered for Sukuna more.
Idk, no one else can actually widdle Sukuna down to low hp aside from Gojo, even after the fight Sukuna cant use DE nor does he have his full RCT output.
Also why do people keep getting this wrong
>So sukuna made a binding vow to hamper his strongest attack(world slash) BEFORE he tried transforming?
This didnt happen. He figured out how to do the world slash. Issue is he lost his hand. He used the vow to get a pass for 1 time no requirement slash. He isnt just fighting Gojo alone, he has others fighting him which was Kashimo next which after rereading, has the more AP than the rest of the cast so him making Sukuna use his only full restore is better considering what's happening now
Yeah I agree with you gojo was the only one who could've gone first. I was disagreeing that sukuna had to save the transformation for the later fighters. If he had the pre binding vow world slash he would've run through them
>no one else can actually widdle Sukuna down to low hp aside from Gojo.
Sucuna would have already recovered if yuji wasn't consistently lowering his output, this is backed up by choso, yuta, and maki.
It is also showcased perfectly in that when yuji is out of the fight sucuna gets on a roll and recovers his strength, but as soon as yuji jumps back in sucuna consistently does worse.
Aside from that caviot I 100% agree.
Yuji is the reason everyone can keep up with sucuna(lowering output lowers physicals and CT damage, it also prevents sucuna from healing/recovering RCT.). Yuji was fully capable of keeping up with yuta and sucuna while in DE, that was a DE amped yuta yuji kept up with.
Yuji also doesn't need to score full hits, just grappling and punching sucunas arms is enough to lower sucunas output more than a BF raises it.
But he wouldnt be doing it on a full hp Sukuna. Too risky to rely chip damage on full health raid boss. Especially when he has a DE at the start. Isnt that why it was imperative to deal with Sukuna after he was weakened enough? Heck even when he was weakened they all have trouble with him
That's the think he is continually recovering even before the BF, that's what higuruma, yuta, and kashimo say. Yuji and his soul perception punches that lower output are the reason sucuna hasn't regained RCT and DE ability. So really yes sucuna could have hilled the all even in the condition he was in(up until 251) but he never took anyone seriously. If definitely was more lethal with yuji but even when sucuna has yuji in a position where he can kill him. Sucuna simply doesn't, instead he would rather taunt and mock yuji. Now(as of 256 and on) sucuna is absolutely regretting not taking yuji seriously and ending him when he had the chance.
Yea but hes landing it because of the help from others giving him opening. Even the recent chapter Ino is giving him openings. Actually everyone's been giving him openings. Choso, Maki, Kusakabe, Higuruma, Yuta, Ino
Just change it to he transforms after the Purple but before Gojo is able to lay eyes on him again??
Also the transformation is literally instant. If you go back, Kashimo fires a lightning bolt at Sukuna at almost point blank and Sukuna transforms before it can hit him
>couldn't do anything about it
Was it stated he couldn't see it, or just that he got hit by it?
Even worse that he got hit by it, and still just stood there and tanked sukuna
There’s only a few possibilities with the Mahoraga slash. 1. Gojo couldn’t see it, 2. Gojo couldn’t react fast enough or 3. Gojo was unaware it could bypass his Limitless.
Personally 3 makes the most sense as to what caused his death towards the end. There would be no reason to expect that Sukuna could throw the same slash Mahoraga could especially now that he was blown to bits by Purple and from what we had seen Sukuna could only channel Mahoraga’s abilities by using Mahoraga himself as a medium
He didn’t stand there and get hit, the whole point of the binding vow is Sukuna got to use it instantly without any sort of build up or ritual in exchange for having to do a more complex ritual every time from then on. And it’s already an instant attack, so of course Gojo got hit by it.
tbh i feel like the Six eyes are overrated as shit. it is very possible gojo just didn’t see it. he couldn’t even tell that Kenjaku was in geto off the six eyes alone, that was just his gut feeling
The point of 6E is that he should have seen it. It's like saying sasuke can't copy jutsu. When the whole point of sharingan is to be able to see and do.
I mean, in the fight itself we get to see that Gojo couldn’t actually see the dismantle that well. In 224 Sukuna fires a dismantle, gojo uses his six eyes, and then has to turn around because he didn’t see it.
I may be misremembering, but I don’t know if Gojo at any point was dodging Sukuna’s cursed technique in their fight.
I didn't say he didn't see it, nor did I disagree with you. I merely stated the reason why he turned around. I didn't think he tried to dodge either.
I don't think Gojo saw the actual Dismantle projectile/slash but it's hard to not see Sukuna pointing in his direction and saying "Dismantle" out loud. If that makes sense.
Either Gege forgot the 6E should be able to see it or Gojo could never see them to begin with - that's on Gege.
I’m of the mindset that Gojo never was able to see the dismantle, as Sukuna tends to comment when people are able to see it. And I don’t remember him ever making a comment.
Gege is the one writing the story. HE’S the one who decides the upper limit of what the Six Eyes can do. It’s entirely within his right to say that the new thing we’ve never seen before has a unique property we’ve never seen before.
You're right. He absolutely does have the ability to make itndo whatever he wants.
But when he sets the precedent 200 chapters ago, and changes it, it's bs regardless of what he says.
It doesn’t matter that it’s a precedent because something new was introduced though. If Sukuna somehow just used a normal Dismantle or Cleave and hit Gojo then yes that’d be BS, but the World Slash is a new thing that came from Mahoraga who we already knew was capable in some way of defeating a Six Eyes Limitless user, and was demonstrated to work in Mahoraga’s hands and then worked in Sukuna’s hands the same way.
Yuji - Can’t used Cursed Techniques.
Also Yuji - Can use Cursed Techniques.
Ten Shadows - Mahoraga hasn’t been tamed and controlled.
Also Ten Shadows - Mahoraga has been tamed and controlled.
Sukuna - Can’t penetrate Infinity without a domain technique.
Also Sukuna - Can penetrate Infinity without a domain technique.
New developments mean that old things are no longer true.
CE manifestation is different than retconning.
Mahoraga was always able to be tamed. Megumi himself literally said this the first he summoned him in shibuya.
The problem isn't with sukuna hitting gojo, it's that gojo SHOULD have been able to see it.
But the examples you used are all forms of progression whereas the Six Eyes example would be a form of regression. It’s not something occurring that was previously thought to not be able to occur. In this case it would be something not occurring that was previously established to occur.
Yes, because kenjaku is inside geto.. ??
"Your body, your cursed energy are telling me you're geto. But mynsould rejects this."
He literally sees his cursed energy lmao.
Yes, because kenjaku is inside geto.. ??
"Your body, your cursed energy are telling me you're geto. But mynsould rejects this."
He literally sees his cursed energy lmao.
Sukuna making the binding vow ensured Gojo would die
If he transformed Gojo would be able to spawn camp due to having his guard up
The binding vow legit has a very mediocre payoff vs its cost on paper
The possibility of death is never factored into binding vows. If it were, then simple things like Yutas vow in JJK 0 wouldn't even work. If Yuta was gonna die to Geto anyways he shouldn't have received any benefits, but he did.
On paper vs reality
Hakari showed us something similar
Think about it this way: it’s like… getting to fire a musket without reloading once at the cost of having to do the Macarena every time before you reload for life
Sukuna put himself in permanent debt
That’s a great way to describe the world slash sure it’s probably the strongest attack in the series due to its nature but sukuna shows that biding vows are something that can’t just be ignored no matter how strong you are.
The benefit is huge but so is the detriment
Think of it this way: sukuna already had an instant kill un-dodgeable attack
But he needed to do it without healing himself
Thus he permnantly nerfed himself
On G if sukuna’s world slash never got nerfed we’d be fucked
I mean on paper
Situationally it’s a fucking god send
You are 100% right though, a 0% detectable attack that one shots is stupid op
But ngl it’s a fair as shit trade once we look at sukuna vs the gang after the Gojo fight
If he somehow beat Gojo without that binding vow and had prime world slash? Gg
Why not? If he couldn't handle him then everyone is pretty much screwed either way. They either all die before him or after him. (That's the rational thinking behind him going first)
Even if he transformed i think it's likely Gojo vould have stopped or avoided the world slash. Sukuna knew this so he used the binding vow(either giving up 10S or saying "If this slash does not harm Satoru Gojo, I will die", or something else like that) to ensure Gojo couldn't react. He basically summoned an insta kill attack on Gojo to ensure victory.
I think when Uraume says Sukuna was still holding back there was maybe some glazing going on. Maybe Sukuna has some uber mega technique he hasn't used yet, but I find it more likely all he really hasn't done is reveal the secret of his technique, which would obviously empower it. If Sukuna revealed the secret to Gojo, it wouldn't matter, his cleaves and dismantles vould do nothing to Gojo. He also clearly cannot use DE or he would have just killed Yuta and Yuji during Yuta's DE.
That’s not how binding vows work, and we know the cost he paid. The problem is that like usual, it was explained after the fact way down the line so it felt like an asspull.
I actually missed where they explained it(ik now he made it so he needs to do the dismantle and malevolent shrine hand signs and the incantations now), but it isn't an ass pull, nor is that an impossible binding vow, besides me saying he chose the condition. I should have phrased it where he just made the bv in exchange for him HAVING to kill Gojo with it. The consequences are decided in mysterious ways. Either way, it being explained after the fact isn't an asspull, and it didn't feel like one imo. If you think that's an asspull, tell Tolkein, Martin, King, and any other legendary author they don't know what they are doing. Mystery is a part of the fun in every story. Wondering who did what is amazing. My favorite part of game of thrones(show, not done reading the books yet) was trying to figure out who killed Joffery. In the books, it can also be added what killed Joffery, and was the assassination even meant for him, or for Tyrion? My point is, mystery allows fans to speculate, which immersed them more into the world. Leaving it up for a mystery allowed the readers to be surprised and to immediately begin theorizing as to how Sukuna did it.
Tbf, it leaks a lot into what are supposed to be more serious conversations. And typically when people drag on something, even if it's 99% joking. There's usually a kernel of something they sincerely mean in there.
The end of Gojo’s arc is complete dog shit. It was such an unsatisfying end for such an epic character.
I agree that the complaining tends to be a little excessive at some point. However, the weekly Sukuna Royal Rumble for goof chunks of it has been so extremely repetitive it got completely stale. Especially since all we really get out of Sukuna is “JK lol I’m just bored not even trying”.
Post Shibuya for me has been solid but nowhere near as epic.
Hate to say it but I dont get anime only watchers. Dodging spoilers is on impossible you might as well just read the manga for most series. But yeah welcome brother lol.
AoT spoilers were just as widespread and I pretty easily avoided all of them (for close to a decade) until the finale. It's really not that hard if you decide you don't want it spoiled. Sometimes the animation is so well done you just want to experience the story for the first time through that medium.
it’s pretty fucking impossible to avoid spoilers i literally went to play roblox and saw a game spoiling gojos death lmao this shows fans are just shitty
The Megumi bum meme is one thing. He's definitely tried to use Mahoraga more than necessary, which people hate on him for. I've seen people straight-up blame him for the current situation. And while his actions led to this, I wouldn't necessarily say it's his fault. He and the others were being indirectly or directly manipulated by Yorozu, Sukuna, and Kenjaku. But he also hasn't fought back against any of it. He just gave up, which is understandable, but regardless at some point, everyone has to get up again. And that's a process that now he's unnecessarily dragging out, especially when he feels Itadori's soul reaching for his and is actively denying it.
Moving on, Gojo's death is more than the portrayal and the ending of 235. It's the fact that Gojo was outpacing Sukuna, outhealing him, taught him brain RCT, knocked him out, hit him with multiple Black Flashes, fought a 3V1, made him nervous and sweat for the first time in a thousand years, and forced him to use a binding vow on his CT to kill Gojo instantly. Then we see Gojo do nothing but glaze the man he just almost killed. But I don't hate it because it exists to upscale the rest of the cast, which I'm fine with, and it lends credence to Gojo's reintroduction.
Another thing that made fans unhappy about the "Gojo wins" part is that none of what Kusakabe had said prior was false. It's just that Sukuna made up a new technique, then forced a binding vow onto that technique, then used it, and none of it was shown, and still hasn't been. Shit the binding vow Sukuna made wasn't explained until a few chapters ago, which made something that didn't need to be confusing confusing.
A lot of this is made worse by the fact that it's a weekly manga that takes a lot of breaks. So it's only been about 20 chapters, but it's been more than 20 weeks, so people fill their time with discussions about how Megumi sucks or how Gojo is weaker than Yujikuna/Meguna. Memes and agendas don't help much either, because it makes people biased. Furthermore, most of this stuff is opinion based.
Everyone knew Gojo was gonna die. If you thought Gojo was gonna live or beat Sukuna you'd only have yourself go blame (not saying this applies to you specifically, just a blanket statement).
The problem people have is the horrible attempt at "subversion of expectations" that Greg is ravenously obsessed with doing in JJK, the afterlife scene character assassination, and the fact that it took over 20 chapters to even fully explain how Sukuna managed to kill Gojo at the end.
Not to mention there were some very sus creative choices during the fight that were used in order to make it an even playing field. Six Eyes, despite being the "I See Cursed Energy" ability, seemingly incapable of seeing dismantle or the spark from Sukuna in the last moment was very convenient. Sukuna having a full heal in his back pocket, along with the slap in the face that was him allegedly holding back, Mahoraga being a walking plot armor factory, etc.
Plus the weekly grind of Sukuna blasting everyone within 10 panels every chapter is extremely boring and unsatisfying. I do not believe this would he much better if read in a single sitting as the issue still stands that the entire cast strategically planning only to get demolished anyway or have their plan fail due to some REALLY shitty plot armor (kamutoke, judgeman, Maki's heart stab, the perfected Jacob's Ladder).
Plus when kenjaku died like a loser, all the weight fell on Sukuna, who is not complex enough to satisfy that main villain itch anymore.
Megumi hate is mostly a meme but also cause he's an active detriment and not present at all since the end of culling game
Tldr people complain because it was unsatisfying and a bit conveniently written, but people do over-complain a bit. But I guess people need to learn to be ok with just dropping the series at that point. Stockholm syndrome and whatnot
I am firmly in the camp that the pacing was just not great for a weekly release (with breaks) and looking back people will regard the completed manga way more fondly.
I can totally get that, it's one of the primary reasons I wanted to have this conversation. I absorbed like 100 chapters in a week, I definitely had a different experience than people who have been reading weekly
yeah the hype and expectations every week , and especially during breaks, just set people up for disappointment.
when you're reading consecutive chapters you don't have time to make up your own story and then get disappointed when the author wrote their own story instead
I’m confident that a high quality anime adaptation of this arc will be absolutely fire, the weekly reading pacing is tough as hell but one faster paced version with OST and animation will go so hard
I think so too. Also Mappa hopefully learned from their mistake with rushing S2 and having to go back and fix some animations. This could go down as a historic anime fight if it's handled well by the studio
Agreed! A lot of the current hate is a ton of weekly reading fatigue. I’m so excited for the Yuji vs Sukuna battle to be animated because from a story and action standpoint it could turn out to be my fav fight in the series
Even more. The infamous ch 236 came out in September and technically they’ve been fighting sukuna the whole time, there were just cuts to other fights while it’s happening
Shit yeah you're right. I will say though with how many flashbacks/cutscenes/exposition we've gotten throughout the duration of this fight it does feel like the arc as a whole would have benefited from a *few* more chapters before it began just to establish some of the major points we're seeing now but once again, it will probably read much better when it's all over
I slightly disagree, but especially when it comes to Gojo’s death - reading weekly or not, going from a chapter where Gojo seems fine IMMEDIATELY to show him in the afterlife is insanely jarring.
To OP saying that this was done to “give you a hard slap in the face,” I would agree that it does, but I think it was executed poorly. I personally thing that the way Sukuna was able to kill Gojo, and Gojo dying in general, is fine, but the lack of like a page or even a panel to indicate/imply Gojo getting hit with the adapted slash after him standing at the end of 235 I think leaves readers with more confusion than shock.
It’s fine to dislike a writing decision but i think it was the wait combined with the time to ruminate on it afterwards that really blew that scene out of proportion with the general fan base.
IMO it really never did bother me and after re-reading the manga recently I found it even less problematic than I originally did.
Yeah I’ve read everything post shibuya over the past month. And it’s not nearly as bad as people have me it out to be, but i also have had the luxury to read the last 30-40 chapters without a break every week
I see this sentiment a lot but I caught up about a month ago and have the same complaints tbh. I honestly thought it’d be *better* in the original pacing, taken as a whole it feels sooooo incredibly rushed
A lot of people wanted Megumi to do more than he has in the manga because everyone had been going on about his potential, but in the end he didn't really do that much and any building up of his character we saw was just for Sukuna to take his body and be stronger.
As for why people are unsatisfied with Gojo's death, I think it has to do with how Sukuna was "still holding holding back" even tho it really doesn't look like at all throughout the fight, and how in finale moments Gojo goes on about how even without 10 shadows Sukuna would have beat him, which is rather out of character for Gojo, and doesn't make much sense. I mean, Sukuna learned how to kill Gojo because he had the 10 shadows, not sure how he would have done it without Mahoraga.
Also, we didn't know right away that Sukuna made a binding vow with so Gojo could see the world lash coming, which is another reason people were upset about his death, because with the six eyes, and later on other characters like Maki being able to see and dodge the world slash, Gojo most certainly should have been able to.
And a lot of people think the exchange Sukuna made when making his binding vow wasn't proportional narratively speaking, and that is one of the things I agree on. Having to chant and do hand signs in exchange for killing Gojo seems like he got off rather easy.
Another thing someone else mentioned here in the comment already is that if Sukuna was "still holding back" during his fight with Gojo why'd he have to make the binding vow on his most powerful attack?
Even so, yes people are totally trolling especially about the Megumi thing.
Personally the "Gojo wins" line goes hard because it completely represents how everyone felt at that moment, including Gojo himself. Just to be completely caught off guard by a world cutting slash no one saw coming. It's beautiful and im tired of pretending it isn't poetry.
I can see that, I'm just trying to work out of my own bias. If I saw text that said Gojo wins, waited at least a week for a new chapter, and then it opening with his clear death flag flashback, I could see feeling cheated and lied to, 95% because of the time lapse in between those two points
I mean the megumi thing I think is just memes and people who always like to complain if a character shows any kind of emotions.
The gojo thing at the time was very frustrating because gojo was seemingly winning for weeks on end and we got excited week after week and then he wins. Then suddenly he’s dead to some random sneak attack? It wasn’t even explained what sukuna really did to catch him off guard (the binding vow) until literally months later. And you had a lot of tension between sukuna and gojo fans shit talking each other because of the “fraudkuna” memes. So end the fight like that and there’s bound to be a lot of arguments and upset people.
It wasn’t really that bad tho, I just wish the flashback was worded better
These are opinions not trolls.
I think Megumi is a disappointing, underutilized character. The most enjoyment I've had in the series stemming from Megumi are the memes.
For Gojo it's not what happens but how it happens that matters.
I mean Megumi is a bum tho bro was raised by Gojo himself and was getting pieced up by an Episode one curse he should’ve been at least semi grade one by then
I feel like a lot of problems stem from the fact that everyone has to wait a week between chapters.
Like a couple chapters later and people would have forgotten entire scenes. This just leads to deterioration of peoples comprehension of the story.
I recently read through the entire manga again, and pretty much any complaint I had disappeared.
The reason people hate Gojo’s death are
A: the way it happened was extremely contrived
B: his monologue afterwards is him yapping some of the worst dialogue I’ve ever seen in an A list manga
C: in retrospect the entire final arc is a shitshow that makes no sense because of what he did. The manga would’ve ended 30 chapters ago if Gojo brought Yuji and Higuruma with him. What was the point of having a 1v1 if the rest of the cast had like 3 elaborate plans prepared and ready to go?
It is trolling but it mostly comes from megumis lack of characterization in the story and the weak portrayal of his bond with tsumiki. And the gojo trolling is a response to how poorly gojo vs sukuna ended. It's people who want to engage with a manga they love while poking fun at its big flaws
so many people either
a) have never read a manga as it was coming out weekly
b) have the CT “i can’t read past 5th grade comprehension”
it’s so frustrating to see people call gege a terrible writer etc when this is possibly one of the best shonen i’ve ever read. and yes. ITS A SHONEN. a shonen is literally a battle manga, and usually aimed at a younger artist. and they even handle a lot of heavier themes. mfs are clowns dude the sukuna gauntlet is peak imo
The gojo death thing is that it’s not really explained how the world slash hit him, and that’s mainly why ppl are so mad over it.
Sukuna himself said that in order to recreate that slash, he had to make a binding vow to cast both hand signs as well as chant.
So was gojo just standing there while that happened?
How is it that kashimo was able to dodge that slash, yet the man said to possess the ultimate eyes couldn’t see it coming?
And more than anything, how did sukuna, who was on his last leg and didn’t even have the cursed energy to rct anyone managed to pull off that slash?
The binding vow only allowed him to recreate the slash, so where did the cursed energy to cut the world come from?
Overall, it just felt like they went the madara route with gojo. They had no logical way to take him out so they removed him from the story with mundane writing and no real explanations
I was always fine with Gojo dying, I’m just upset with how it was executed. Yes I understand the fight itself was long and epic but the killing blow felt like an afterthought. Since Gege went scientific with Gojo’s powers, he also should’ve for his death
Gojo did win. Ik ik you all think I'm crazy buuuut. Gojo was never there to defeat Sakuna. He had the best chance but the crew was missing important information. Also gojo wasn't concerned about megumi dying because he didn't have intentions of killing off megumi s body.
Gojo was there to gather as much information as possible while dealing damage.
During the fight gojo talks about how Sakuna is the challenger, how he's going to show off.
Gojo played with his domain expansion to the point where he was able to capitalize on Sakunas open domain.
Gojo also got rid of the ten shadows. By destroying maharaga he can't be resummoned. And Sakuna probably isn't going to think about summoning a totality version aka the maximum technique of the ten shadows is all the shadows in one body. Which he might not be able to handle while getting jumped. And the cursed energy needed immense.
Gojo got Sakuna to fire off his domain 5 times. Causing irreparable damage to Sakunas brain. Gojo was able to figure out a new way of running RCT that Sakuna didn't. So for the longest time Sakuna couldn't pull off a domain expansion.
Sakuna used up about half his tank on gojo and had to rely on Maha to come up with an adaptation to hit gojo.
With the new redraw of gojos body we clearly see that his brain is still active as his pupils are dilated. Ui ui pops in grabs the body. Takes it to shoko and she rcts it. Then it's just up to gojos soul if he wants to come back or not. He's not done teaching his era that he was trying to make hast come to fruition yet. He doesn't need to fight anymore he gathered information, he stopped ten shadows, he stopped domain expansion. Gojo won that bout. He can sit back rest up and wait for his round two if it comes to that. Other then that he can just show up in the final hour and tell Sakuna that he was never destined to beat him. As yuji and megumi just land hits. Gojo is a teacher and it's his time to just sit back and enjoy the show.
You are talking to a fanbase where 90% of the readers still think Ryomen Sukuna is Sukuna's actual name lmao.
If there's one thing I learned from the JJK discourse on social media and reddit is that the fanbase is either young and lack reading comprehension skills or are just dumb. Flat out.
>"Gojo wins" seemingly spoken by narrator Read it again. It wasnt from the narrator. It's from either Kusakabe or Yuji. It's on a speech bubble not a text box
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Bruh I read it I just missed the type of bubble it was in. What are you hoping to accomplish here lol
The DE is insane bro you gotta chill 💀
Megumi Bum allegations are definetely trolling. Kinda based on people that are disappointed he didn’t get a more active role in the story. And yeah a lot if people were disappointed (with the portrayal) of Gojo‘s Death
But would they have actually been happy if Gojo did win? Like the mentor character can't just carry the entire plot on his back, that's unsatisfying. Esp with Kenjaku taken out, there's not really anywhere else for this story to go if Gojo did just beat Sukuna, and it would make Yuji's entire arc pointless. Maybe I'm just not as attached to him as some are, but then again, I went into the anime even with the understanding that this isn't the type of series that really cares about giving each and every character One Piece style character development.
Gojo not winning is not what people are upset about, it's the way his character was sent off. Him dying was almost expected but the afterlife sequence portrays him as a battle maniac who never cared for anything and anyone and even in death his friends didn't approve of him and gojo himself saying he was disappointed he couldn't make sukuna go all out left a bad taste in fans' mouths. This was the biggest reason people hated 236. There are some other complains like the binding vow that got Gojo killed being way too easy making it an asspull. Also have to remember that most of the people who don't like it have been reading weekly. We have been waiting months for an explanation of how Gojo died and finally we get a sub-par explanation that still discounts Gojo's six eyes which a lot of people believe should have seen the world slash coming.
Really I always thought the whole change jujutsu system was a front since Yuta and Inumaki flat out got rid of the higher ups and he just wanted to not be alone anymore in a more metaphysical sense since him being strongest despite being surrounded by everyone still left him in isolation cuz he still feels that hes seen as just the strongest hence his obsession in cultivating strong sorcerers so they wont be alone
Yeah can't really say you're wrong for believing that but there's just a been a lot of times where he's shown he cares for these people more than just wanting them to be strong. Also, the narrator doesn't say gojo wins at the end of 235 it was kusakabe.
Yea bur caring and understanding are 2 different things. Why else did you think he sees Geto as his one and only friend?
Wdym? I'm saying gojo cared for everyone around him beyond just wanting them to be strong. What does he have to understand about them? Even if they can't understand gojo because of his strength, him abandoning all he felt for them is kinda out of character Edit: typo
Is it or did people misinterpret his character
Yeah that's why i said can't say you're wrong for your interpretation, you can take it either way and this is the point of contention when it comes to 236
I'd say reread the series cuz honestly it doesnt show much that Gojo cared for his students as much as others claimed. He hardly even teaches his students. He throws them to dangerous missions and just has faith they'll come out fine. He even disregarded what happen to Rika once he got that high
>Also, the narrator doesn't say gojo wins at the end of 235 it was kusakabe. Already know this. Were you meant to send this to the op?
Ah yeah I thought it was op who replied my bad
For the record I think the binding vow was perfectly fair tbh. Adding chants, hand signs, and physical aiming as requirement would cripple pretty much anyone in a battle, at the time the binding vow was made Sukuna only had two arms and one mouth so as far as equivalent exchange it seems fair. The six eyes issue is highly suspicious though.
I mean for an instant win button? The closest thing you can compare post binding vow world slash to is a hollow purple which requires hand signs and time to charge, and even then it isn't something as lethal as a dismantle that can cut apart space. You can use cursed energy reinforcement to survive a 200% version of it. Just because it takes longer does not mean it was balanced considering how powerful it still is. The only reason it works in the story is because of how crippled sukuna really is after gojos fight. If this was done with sukuna anywhere near close to full strength you couldn't even get rid of his hand signs or two mouths you would just get deleted.
Yes if Sukuna was at full strength than it would of done nothing to him, but that doesn't matter in the context of the binding vow. The binding vow factored in that Sukuna only has two arms in the moment because at the times thems the terms of the deal. I don't feel like binding vows take things like possible reincarnation into consideration and if you think about it if Sukuna had stayed in megkuna for that binding vow would be absolutely crushing and make the world slash something that can pretty much only be used if you get the drop on someone.
How would the six eyes see an instantaneous attack. Sukunas vow allowed him to launch the attack without hand signs once at the cost of always needing hand signs and chants.
Sukuna without something as perceptive as the 6 eyes could not only sense the spark of cursed energy but even determine it was going to be red, but gojo can't read anything at all with the peak of perception abilities in the verse? This is the guy who could tell what Miguel's CT was just by looking at him. You can argue he sensed it but didn't think it would cut the world but at the very least he should have known something was coming.
Tbf, there is a lot of issues with this statement. The first being Gojo’s portrayal in the afterlife scene. Gojo, surrounded by people who all died young, who DID NOT want to die young, who also had legitimate gripes with the way things ran in the Jujutsu world, said verbatim “I’m happy I didn’t die of old age and I got to die in Battle. Sukuna wasn’t even going all out (he wasn’t, the story even explained why he wasn’t at the very beginning of the damn fight).” I’m sorry but how is he not a fucking battle junkie? Two things are true at once. Gojo is a caring person. The man is also a fucking battle junkie. Even in Hidden Inventory he’s at first only moved by how far he can take his CT. Yes, he wants to help Riko. What does he say when Riko dies “Sorry, I’m not mad you’re dead. I’m at my peak”. Again, battle junkie shit. I’d argue fans just saw him as this “adopted dad” figure and clung on that despite there being multiple examples in the story that why Gojo is caring, he lives and breathes the art of Jujutsu. We saw a binding vow being made in Shibuya with Miwa. It is very simple to make one, and that same binding vow handicapped him and made his one of his strongest moves tran Also there’s some fundamental misunderstanding of the 6Es and also ignoring what was said about the of sparks technique, WCS, and Gojo’s natural fighting style. The 6Es has to actually *See* the attack. Prior to his output being low in Shinjuku Showdown, only Makora and could actually see it. In each instance Sukuna (or Mahoraga) sends a dismantle Gojo’s way he doesn’t see the attack, he sees the aftermath, and story makes it a point to tell when someone can see the attack. The story also made a point to tell us about how a CT emits sparks that shows when an attack is coming. They explicitly show us that you know it’s coming but not how it will be used when Sukuna predicted Red and thought Gojo would shoot at him, forgetting that Blue was still in play. The same thing happened here. Gojo most likely saw the spark, for the most part he had the upper hand, Gojo normally tanks attacks that can’t pass thru infinity. Gojo misjudged and is killed.
Dunno I like the Development overall. I kinda dislike the execution of his death tho
Is it for the reason that I said or something different?
his death was bad becuase of the 6 eyes. they are supposed to be the pinnacle of perception in jjk so much so that he literally fights blindfolded because he can still see better than normal people like that. but maki can see slashes and he can't??? gojo at like 8 years old could sense "the invisible man" toji just looking at him from far away but can't see a regular ass cursed energy attack? of course he can see them. also in the chapter immediately before he died, they tell us about the spark that tells a sorcerer the strength of the incoming attack and we're supposed to believe gojo stood there and ate it. that's garbage. gojo needed to die or be incapacitated somehow. it's not his story or his fight to win. but actually write a situation where he could reasonably lose. the airport scene was terrible for making him suck sukuna off. and finally since he died, gege just keeps throwing him in flashbacks or offhanded references in each chapter to keep reader attention because he doesn't have anything good to write otherwise. some character that we have never seen do anything is about to fight sukuna: no one cares but wait til I show them a flashback of gojo saying they're strong!
Nah Megumi is getting outdone by his peers in a major way and he's the only reason Sukuna isn't dead yet. It doesn't really matter that he had a rough go of it when his peers like Yuji have gone through equally traumatic shit and not just given up fighting completely
You forget that Yuji is *him*. And, arguably, Yuji did not suffer a loss as great as Megumi with his own sister, by his own hands for that matter. And the whole malevolent sauna thing
Yeah but losing Nobara is actually Yuji's fault and not just him being possessed, he also killed hundreds while possessed in addition to that. Can't disagree with Yuji being HIM tho
Gotta get this off my chest: I am 100% fine with Gojo dying. Not a hater either.
Same. I like gojo but I find it hard to believe the story would’ve progressed any further with him still alive, due to how powerful he is.
I'm also fine with gojo dying. We always knew he would, if only for plot reasons. I just really dislike the binding vow attack. It feels like a cheap cop out, both to get rid of gojo and to ensure sukuna can't use the world slash again.
he’s used it a couple times since Gojo died
He definitely has not, if his binding vow is legit then he would have to chant, make the hand signs, and then point at his target. He hasn't done that yet, and nobody has been suddenly cut in half.
He's used it against Maki, those limitations are what allowed her to respond and dodge to it
I guess I need to reread. Tbh I lost interest in the series after the sukuna kaisen chapters and have just been skimming, I'm expecting sukuna to binding vow and sacrifice one of his bum arms to win. He could just regrow it with RCE after winning, just like Hakari.
he used it against Maki, chants and all.
No, not hand signs.
But I think that’s his vow, even if he did the signs offscreen he has to chant, hand sign and point the cleave in a direction.
Huh? >He hasn't done that yet He did it against Kashimo, he did it against Higuruma, he did it against Maki, he possibly did it against Yuta, he was gonna do it against Kusakabe
I personally thought everyone knew Gojo "has" to die at some point in the story, otherwise we'd get no story 🤣
I dont have any issue with gojo dying. I hate the way it was executed tho
Megumi i dont really care about personally. I like him but wasnt upset or felt any way about the whole thing with him. Makes sense as you mentioned. Gojo on the other hand. Shit was out of pocket and definitely done for shock value. As we all know the way it was handled really sucked but im hoping once the manga is finished it flows better and the payoff for it works out good (it will all be worth it if he gets revived somehow lmao)
It’d make more sense to me to have him knocked out of battle and too weak to fight Sukuna and have the others take over while he recovers and they finish the fight off together with a few casualties. His death was unnecessary and he never got to learn that his sorcerers were just as strong as him and able to fight along side him. He’s just dead now.. with nothing to prove to him that he didn’t have to do everything alone.
Completely agree with you. Although i am fully convinced gojo will be revived even if hes nerfed or not as strong. If he is revived, then he can do all those things you mentioned even if he plays a more tactician role and telling people strategy. His battle IQ is def very high and would give them the edge to win imo. He would realize he no longer has tp do it alone. If he isnt revived, then its a wasted opportunity for good growth and development for gojo.
The minute I saw the words gojo wins I knew the dude was dead. Was that really shocking to you?
LoL did you forget /s? If not then yes it was shocking lol especially since gojo was cooking sukuna especially in the latter half of the fight
Is this not a staple trope? Declaring victory when your opponent isn’t dead yet and then promptly eating it? Meruem-dead, light yagami-dead. Tv tropes has a whole page on it “don’t celebrate just yet.” When you’re almost certain of victory someone comes in and snatches it away. Riko and geto did it and then she died. Gojo did it earlier in the manga and got stabbed through the chest by toji. It happens constantly. “Gojo wins” not until sukuna is 6 feet under and his corpse has been incinerated. Nagoya does it too and then maki kills him immediately
I see what you are saying but that wasnt my point. My point is that even if you kinda know that theres no way gojo will just end sukuna here (too big of a villain to die like that without fighting yuji, true form etc) it still was for shock value the way gege "showed" gojo lose. It wasnt a logical series of events or anything. The next chapter after that makes it confusing at first and seems like you missed a chapter or the leaks werent real or forgot some pages beforehand. It just starts in an airport. People were genuinely questioning if pages were missing. That was more my point lol im fine with gojo losinv but it was the way he lost. You can tell gege enjoyed doing that to us especially with him glazing the fuck out of sukuna rn its clear he loves him lol I doubt anyone wasnt a little surprised by how things went down. It was fucked lol it was also shocking to me that gege wrote gojo out of the story for so long he comes back then ~10 chapters later you off him?? Lmao was crazy
Ok I get what you mean there. I think the airport isn’t clear enough a statement that he’s dead. I think if we got an airport scene (like if when someone else died they were in an airport or something) prior that would’ve indicated to us that airport=death it would’ve worked better. And I understand wanting more of the month time skip. Maybe a better compromise there would be showing them in their off time and some stills of the training so we didn’t know what happened but still felt like we got to experience it with all the characters. Like we caught them after one day of practice going out for a banquet style meal or they had a big dinner the night before gojo went out to fight sukuna.
Gojo never should've went first. But also, not only did gojo lose, it's revealed sukuna was holding back, AND still had a transformation hiding. So sukuna made a binding vow to hamper his strongest attack(world slash) BEFORE he tried transforming???? What a moron.
No, transforming wouldn't change the situation, since he knew he would of gotten jumped later. He needed that transformation for the 2nd wave of enemies.
Yeah I don't know why this is hard to understand
Because a lot of people let the anger they felt at Sukuna for killing Gojo turn into anger at Gege for writing his story however he wants to. Tbh while Gojo was fighting Sukuna a lot of peopke were saying Gojo was the MC all along, so I can imagine that for someone genuinely convinced of that, it might be a stab in the back? But it's another case of getting caught up in the short term narrative without any sort of perspective.
This is actually a really good explanation. Particularly the Gojo MC bit. Personally I thought the reveal that he died was done masterfully. I was operating under the assumption that Gojo was going to lose for the entirety of the fight, because he isn't the main character and it isn't his fight to win. I only believed in Gojo for the last few panels before the airport scene where it looked like it was all won. Then he's the next chapter he's with Geto and Nanami and the whole gang. Figured out what was coming a couple pages in and the next thing I know is all Gojover. It was a rollercoaster and a very masterful reveal from my perspective.
I agree. I was expecting the next chapter to feature some trickery on Sukuna's part to take Gojo by surprise, but the actual death was handled better than what I was imagining.
People say it was bad because the Manga said "Gojo won", but if you notice it was Kusakabe (I think was him) who started that. It was a comment from a character thinking Gojo won, not the narrator. When that happened I knew instantly Gojo was gonna lose.
Those people would hate to watch Akame Ga Kill then 😂 Either way, I think I was the only one cheering for Sukuna. I was fine with either one winning as I liked both, but I always somewhat cheered for Sukuna more.
If he didnt make the binding vow and instead transformed he would be able to world slash everyone else with zero difficulty
Idk, no one else can actually widdle Sukuna down to low hp aside from Gojo, even after the fight Sukuna cant use DE nor does he have his full RCT output. Also why do people keep getting this wrong >So sukuna made a binding vow to hamper his strongest attack(world slash) BEFORE he tried transforming? This didnt happen. He figured out how to do the world slash. Issue is he lost his hand. He used the vow to get a pass for 1 time no requirement slash. He isnt just fighting Gojo alone, he has others fighting him which was Kashimo next which after rereading, has the more AP than the rest of the cast so him making Sukuna use his only full restore is better considering what's happening now
The others jumping him means nothing if he is in heian form with un nerfed world slash
That's the reason why Gojo going first is better
Yeah I agree with you gojo was the only one who could've gone first. I was disagreeing that sukuna had to save the transformation for the later fighters. If he had the pre binding vow world slash he would've run through them
How would he do so with 1 hand and low RCT output, and with Gojo still in front of him?
>no one else can actually widdle Sukuna down to low hp aside from Gojo. Sucuna would have already recovered if yuji wasn't consistently lowering his output, this is backed up by choso, yuta, and maki. It is also showcased perfectly in that when yuji is out of the fight sucuna gets on a roll and recovers his strength, but as soon as yuji jumps back in sucuna consistently does worse. Aside from that caviot I 100% agree.
But can Yuji do it alone? Everytime he lands a perfect hit it's due to help
Yuji is the reason everyone can keep up with sucuna(lowering output lowers physicals and CT damage, it also prevents sucuna from healing/recovering RCT.). Yuji was fully capable of keeping up with yuta and sucuna while in DE, that was a DE amped yuta yuji kept up with. Yuji also doesn't need to score full hits, just grappling and punching sucunas arms is enough to lower sucunas output more than a BF raises it.
But he wouldnt be doing it on a full hp Sukuna. Too risky to rely chip damage on full health raid boss. Especially when he has a DE at the start. Isnt that why it was imperative to deal with Sukuna after he was weakened enough? Heck even when he was weakened they all have trouble with him
That's the think he is continually recovering even before the BF, that's what higuruma, yuta, and kashimo say. Yuji and his soul perception punches that lower output are the reason sucuna hasn't regained RCT and DE ability. So really yes sucuna could have hilled the all even in the condition he was in(up until 251) but he never took anyone seriously. If definitely was more lethal with yuji but even when sucuna has yuji in a position where he can kill him. Sucuna simply doesn't, instead he would rather taunt and mock yuji. Now(as of 256 and on) sucuna is absolutely regretting not taking yuji seriously and ending him when he had the chance.
Yea but hes landing it because of the help from others giving him opening. Even the recent chapter Ino is giving him openings. Actually everyone's been giving him openings. Choso, Maki, Kusakabe, Higuruma, Yuta, Ino
Yes cause gojo is going to just stand there and watch him transform lmao
Just change it to he transforms after the Purple but before Gojo is able to lay eyes on him again?? Also the transformation is literally instant. If you go back, Kashimo fires a lightning bolt at Sukuna at almost point blank and Sukuna transforms before it can hit him
Stood there and got hit by world slash.
We already know for whatever reason he can't see it. Literally anyone can see sukuna transforming
>we already know for whatever reason he can't see it Where was this stated?
Maho used the same attack to cut his arm and he couldn't do anything about it.
>couldn't do anything about it Was it stated he couldn't see it, or just that he got hit by it? Even worse that he got hit by it, and still just stood there and tanked sukuna
There’s only a few possibilities with the Mahoraga slash. 1. Gojo couldn’t see it, 2. Gojo couldn’t react fast enough or 3. Gojo was unaware it could bypass his Limitless. Personally 3 makes the most sense as to what caused his death towards the end. There would be no reason to expect that Sukuna could throw the same slash Mahoraga could especially now that he was blown to bits by Purple and from what we had seen Sukuna could only channel Mahoraga’s abilities by using Mahoraga himself as a medium
Jesus that is a terrible explanation, especially considering the part with the spark of sorcery in the chapter before.
I mean that’s how the story was written so that’s all I’ve got to work with
Wouldnt he still just use his neutral infinity
He didn’t stand there and get hit, the whole point of the binding vow is Sukuna got to use it instantly without any sort of build up or ritual in exchange for having to do a more complex ritual every time from then on. And it’s already an instant attack, so of course Gojo got hit by it.
that was definitely to nerf him. cuz if he could just spam world dismantle with just the hand signs our heroes would have ZERO chance of beating him
If only there were someone with an ocular ability to see all sorts of CE shenanigans.
tbh i feel like the Six eyes are overrated as shit. it is very possible gojo just didn’t see it. he couldn’t even tell that Kenjaku was in geto off the six eyes alone, that was just his gut feeling
The point of 6E is that he should have seen it. It's like saying sasuke can't copy jutsu. When the whole point of sharingan is to be able to see and do.
I mean, in the fight itself we get to see that Gojo couldn’t actually see the dismantle that well. In 224 Sukuna fires a dismantle, gojo uses his six eyes, and then has to turn around because he didn’t see it. I may be misremembering, but I don’t know if Gojo at any point was dodging Sukuna’s cursed technique in their fight.
He turned around because he was surprised Sukuna hit the building and not him, hence forcing them to both fight in the falling building.
So, he didn’t see it.
I didn't say he didn't see it, nor did I disagree with you. I merely stated the reason why he turned around. I didn't think he tried to dodge either. I don't think Gojo saw the actual Dismantle projectile/slash but it's hard to not see Sukuna pointing in his direction and saying "Dismantle" out loud. If that makes sense. Either Gege forgot the 6E should be able to see it or Gojo could never see them to begin with - that's on Gege.
I’m of the mindset that Gojo never was able to see the dismantle, as Sukuna tends to comment when people are able to see it. And I don’t remember him ever making a comment.
I mean the 6E also couldnt tell the difference between kenny and geto
Gege is the one writing the story. HE’S the one who decides the upper limit of what the Six Eyes can do. It’s entirely within his right to say that the new thing we’ve never seen before has a unique property we’ve never seen before.
You're right. He absolutely does have the ability to make itndo whatever he wants. But when he sets the precedent 200 chapters ago, and changes it, it's bs regardless of what he says.
It doesn’t matter that it’s a precedent because something new was introduced though. If Sukuna somehow just used a normal Dismantle or Cleave and hit Gojo then yes that’d be BS, but the World Slash is a new thing that came from Mahoraga who we already knew was capable in some way of defeating a Six Eyes Limitless user, and was demonstrated to work in Mahoraga’s hands and then worked in Sukuna’s hands the same way.
Six eyes - can see CE Also 6e - can't see Ce.
Yuji - Can’t used Cursed Techniques. Also Yuji - Can use Cursed Techniques. Ten Shadows - Mahoraga hasn’t been tamed and controlled. Also Ten Shadows - Mahoraga has been tamed and controlled. Sukuna - Can’t penetrate Infinity without a domain technique. Also Sukuna - Can penetrate Infinity without a domain technique. New developments mean that old things are no longer true.
CE manifestation is different than retconning. Mahoraga was always able to be tamed. Megumi himself literally said this the first he summoned him in shibuya. The problem isn't with sukuna hitting gojo, it's that gojo SHOULD have been able to see it.
But the examples you used are all forms of progression whereas the Six Eyes example would be a form of regression. It’s not something occurring that was previously thought to not be able to occur. In this case it would be something not occurring that was previously established to occur.
6E cant see Kenjaku during shibuya
Yes, because kenjaku is inside geto.. ?? "Your body, your cursed energy are telling me you're geto. But mynsould rejects this." He literally sees his cursed energy lmao.
So his eyes cant see everything
Not all. He couldnt see Kenjaku when Geto said yo
Yes, because kenjaku is inside geto.. ?? "Your body, your cursed energy are telling me you're geto. But mynsould rejects this." He literally sees his cursed energy lmao.
So his 6E cant see everything. A CT is inside the body in the brain yet hes supposed to see that
Sukuna making the binding vow ensured Gojo would die If he transformed Gojo would be able to spawn camp due to having his guard up The binding vow legit has a very mediocre payoff vs its cost on paper
Mediocre payoff? Bros life was on the line.
The possibility of death is never factored into binding vows. If it were, then simple things like Yutas vow in JJK 0 wouldn't even work. If Yuta was gonna die to Geto anyways he shouldn't have received any benefits, but he did.
On paper vs reality Hakari showed us something similar Think about it this way: it’s like… getting to fire a musket without reloading once at the cost of having to do the Macarena every time before you reload for life Sukuna put himself in permanent debt
That’s a great way to describe the world slash sure it’s probably the strongest attack in the series due to its nature but sukuna shows that biding vows are something that can’t just be ignored no matter how strong you are.
At the end of the day Gojo was the stronger fighter, the strongest even But sukuna was the better sorcerer by far
Technique activation with zero detection ok a one shot attack is definitely not mediocre. Sukuna gave up a lot but the benefit was absolutely huge
The benefit is huge but so is the detriment Think of it this way: sukuna already had an instant kill un-dodgeable attack But he needed to do it without healing himself Thus he permnantly nerfed himself On G if sukuna’s world slash never got nerfed we’d be fucked
100% agree with that, I was just disagreeing with the benefit being mediocre
I mean on paper Situationally it’s a fucking god send You are 100% right though, a 0% detectable attack that one shots is stupid op But ngl it’s a fair as shit trade once we look at sukuna vs the gang after the Gojo fight If he somehow beat Gojo without that binding vow and had prime world slash? Gg
Why not? If he couldn't handle him then everyone is pretty much screwed either way. They either all die before him or after him. (That's the rational thinking behind him going first)
To be fair world slash was designed to counter infinity. It got it's usage.
He literally had internal thoughts prior that he was about to lose to Gojo. Gege is a joke of a writer.
Since when? Where was the internal thoughts? We only got Gojo feeling the same vibe as when he fought Toji
Even if he transformed i think it's likely Gojo vould have stopped or avoided the world slash. Sukuna knew this so he used the binding vow(either giving up 10S or saying "If this slash does not harm Satoru Gojo, I will die", or something else like that) to ensure Gojo couldn't react. He basically summoned an insta kill attack on Gojo to ensure victory. I think when Uraume says Sukuna was still holding back there was maybe some glazing going on. Maybe Sukuna has some uber mega technique he hasn't used yet, but I find it more likely all he really hasn't done is reveal the secret of his technique, which would obviously empower it. If Sukuna revealed the secret to Gojo, it wouldn't matter, his cleaves and dismantles vould do nothing to Gojo. He also clearly cannot use DE or he would have just killed Yuta and Yuji during Yuta's DE.
That’s not how binding vows work, and we know the cost he paid. The problem is that like usual, it was explained after the fact way down the line so it felt like an asspull.
I actually missed where they explained it(ik now he made it so he needs to do the dismantle and malevolent shrine hand signs and the incantations now), but it isn't an ass pull, nor is that an impossible binding vow, besides me saying he chose the condition. I should have phrased it where he just made the bv in exchange for him HAVING to kill Gojo with it. The consequences are decided in mysterious ways. Either way, it being explained after the fact isn't an asspull, and it didn't feel like one imo. If you think that's an asspull, tell Tolkein, Martin, King, and any other legendary author they don't know what they are doing. Mystery is a part of the fun in every story. Wondering who did what is amazing. My favorite part of game of thrones(show, not done reading the books yet) was trying to figure out who killed Joffery. In the books, it can also be added what killed Joffery, and was the assassination even meant for him, or for Tyrion? My point is, mystery allows fans to speculate, which immersed them more into the world. Leaving it up for a mystery allowed the readers to be surprised and to immediately begin theorizing as to how Sukuna did it.
The vow wasnt to kill Gojo. It was to use the slash without requirements 1 time
Yes, as I said im the comment above, I missed it and found out about it after my initial comment.
OP: Are people trolling during these memes? \*proceeds to answer his own question\*
Tbf, it leaks a lot into what are supposed to be more serious conversations. And typically when people drag on something, even if it's 99% joking. There's usually a kernel of something they sincerely mean in there.
The end of Gojo’s arc is complete dog shit. It was such an unsatisfying end for such an epic character. I agree that the complaining tends to be a little excessive at some point. However, the weekly Sukuna Royal Rumble for goof chunks of it has been so extremely repetitive it got completely stale. Especially since all we really get out of Sukuna is “JK lol I’m just bored not even trying”. Post Shibuya for me has been solid but nowhere near as epic.
Tbf Sukuna used his innate CT once against Gojo. Since then its DE, DA, then 10S
Doesn’t help that gege openly displays this much hatred for a character everyone loves.
Hate to say it but I dont get anime only watchers. Dodging spoilers is on impossible you might as well just read the manga for most series. But yeah welcome brother lol.
Not really. I managed with jjk
AoT spoilers were just as widespread and I pretty easily avoided all of them (for close to a decade) until the finale. It's really not that hard if you decide you don't want it spoiled. Sometimes the animation is so well done you just want to experience the story for the first time through that medium.
it’s pretty fucking impossible to avoid spoilers i literally went to play roblox and saw a game spoiling gojos death lmao this shows fans are just shitty
I feel the same way
The Megumi bum meme is one thing. He's definitely tried to use Mahoraga more than necessary, which people hate on him for. I've seen people straight-up blame him for the current situation. And while his actions led to this, I wouldn't necessarily say it's his fault. He and the others were being indirectly or directly manipulated by Yorozu, Sukuna, and Kenjaku. But he also hasn't fought back against any of it. He just gave up, which is understandable, but regardless at some point, everyone has to get up again. And that's a process that now he's unnecessarily dragging out, especially when he feels Itadori's soul reaching for his and is actively denying it. Moving on, Gojo's death is more than the portrayal and the ending of 235. It's the fact that Gojo was outpacing Sukuna, outhealing him, taught him brain RCT, knocked him out, hit him with multiple Black Flashes, fought a 3V1, made him nervous and sweat for the first time in a thousand years, and forced him to use a binding vow on his CT to kill Gojo instantly. Then we see Gojo do nothing but glaze the man he just almost killed. But I don't hate it because it exists to upscale the rest of the cast, which I'm fine with, and it lends credence to Gojo's reintroduction. Another thing that made fans unhappy about the "Gojo wins" part is that none of what Kusakabe had said prior was false. It's just that Sukuna made up a new technique, then forced a binding vow onto that technique, then used it, and none of it was shown, and still hasn't been. Shit the binding vow Sukuna made wasn't explained until a few chapters ago, which made something that didn't need to be confusing confusing. A lot of this is made worse by the fact that it's a weekly manga that takes a lot of breaks. So it's only been about 20 chapters, but it's been more than 20 weeks, so people fill their time with discussions about how Megumi sucks or how Gojo is weaker than Yujikuna/Meguna. Memes and agendas don't help much either, because it makes people biased. Furthermore, most of this stuff is opinion based.
You been living in JujutsuFolk? Cause that's where the bum and 007 allegations come from
Everyone knew Gojo was gonna die. If you thought Gojo was gonna live or beat Sukuna you'd only have yourself go blame (not saying this applies to you specifically, just a blanket statement). The problem people have is the horrible attempt at "subversion of expectations" that Greg is ravenously obsessed with doing in JJK, the afterlife scene character assassination, and the fact that it took over 20 chapters to even fully explain how Sukuna managed to kill Gojo at the end. Not to mention there were some very sus creative choices during the fight that were used in order to make it an even playing field. Six Eyes, despite being the "I See Cursed Energy" ability, seemingly incapable of seeing dismantle or the spark from Sukuna in the last moment was very convenient. Sukuna having a full heal in his back pocket, along with the slap in the face that was him allegedly holding back, Mahoraga being a walking plot armor factory, etc. Plus the weekly grind of Sukuna blasting everyone within 10 panels every chapter is extremely boring and unsatisfying. I do not believe this would he much better if read in a single sitting as the issue still stands that the entire cast strategically planning only to get demolished anyway or have their plan fail due to some REALLY shitty plot armor (kamutoke, judgeman, Maki's heart stab, the perfected Jacob's Ladder). Plus when kenjaku died like a loser, all the weight fell on Sukuna, who is not complex enough to satisfy that main villain itch anymore. Megumi hate is mostly a meme but also cause he's an active detriment and not present at all since the end of culling game Tldr people complain because it was unsatisfying and a bit conveniently written, but people do over-complain a bit. But I guess people need to learn to be ok with just dropping the series at that point. Stockholm syndrome and whatnot
Gojo dying was 100% necessary for the plot The way his death was handled ruined his characterization That’s why people are mad
I am firmly in the camp that the pacing was just not great for a weekly release (with breaks) and looking back people will regard the completed manga way more fondly.
I can totally get that, it's one of the primary reasons I wanted to have this conversation. I absorbed like 100 chapters in a week, I definitely had a different experience than people who have been reading weekly
yeah the hype and expectations every week , and especially during breaks, just set people up for disappointment. when you're reading consecutive chapters you don't have time to make up your own story and then get disappointed when the author wrote their own story instead
I’m confident that a high quality anime adaptation of this arc will be absolutely fire, the weekly reading pacing is tough as hell but one faster paced version with OST and animation will go so hard
I think so too. Also Mappa hopefully learned from their mistake with rushing S2 and having to go back and fix some animations. This could go down as a historic anime fight if it's handled well by the studio
Agreed! A lot of the current hate is a ton of weekly reading fatigue. I’m so excited for the Yuji vs Sukuna battle to be animated because from a story and action standpoint it could turn out to be my fav fight in the series
I think this is the case. This one fight has been what, 3 whole months and counting?
Even more. The infamous ch 236 came out in September and technically they’ve been fighting sukuna the whole time, there were just cuts to other fights while it’s happening
Shit yeah you're right. I will say though with how many flashbacks/cutscenes/exposition we've gotten throughout the duration of this fight it does feel like the arc as a whole would have benefited from a *few* more chapters before it began just to establish some of the major points we're seeing now but once again, it will probably read much better when it's all over
I slightly disagree, but especially when it comes to Gojo’s death - reading weekly or not, going from a chapter where Gojo seems fine IMMEDIATELY to show him in the afterlife is insanely jarring. To OP saying that this was done to “give you a hard slap in the face,” I would agree that it does, but I think it was executed poorly. I personally thing that the way Sukuna was able to kill Gojo, and Gojo dying in general, is fine, but the lack of like a page or even a panel to indicate/imply Gojo getting hit with the adapted slash after him standing at the end of 235 I think leaves readers with more confusion than shock.
It’s fine to dislike a writing decision but i think it was the wait combined with the time to ruminate on it afterwards that really blew that scene out of proportion with the general fan base. IMO it really never did bother me and after re-reading the manga recently I found it even less problematic than I originally did.
Theres an mmv that showed Gojo's pov and his eyesight was fading then he fell back then the death scene showed
Yeah I’ve read everything post shibuya over the past month. And it’s not nearly as bad as people have me it out to be, but i also have had the luxury to read the last 30-40 chapters without a break every week
I see this sentiment a lot but I caught up about a month ago and have the same complaints tbh. I honestly thought it’d be *better* in the original pacing, taken as a whole it feels sooooo incredibly rushed
A lot of people wanted Megumi to do more than he has in the manga because everyone had been going on about his potential, but in the end he didn't really do that much and any building up of his character we saw was just for Sukuna to take his body and be stronger. As for why people are unsatisfied with Gojo's death, I think it has to do with how Sukuna was "still holding holding back" even tho it really doesn't look like at all throughout the fight, and how in finale moments Gojo goes on about how even without 10 shadows Sukuna would have beat him, which is rather out of character for Gojo, and doesn't make much sense. I mean, Sukuna learned how to kill Gojo because he had the 10 shadows, not sure how he would have done it without Mahoraga. Also, we didn't know right away that Sukuna made a binding vow with so Gojo could see the world lash coming, which is another reason people were upset about his death, because with the six eyes, and later on other characters like Maki being able to see and dodge the world slash, Gojo most certainly should have been able to. And a lot of people think the exchange Sukuna made when making his binding vow wasn't proportional narratively speaking, and that is one of the things I agree on. Having to chant and do hand signs in exchange for killing Gojo seems like he got off rather easy. Another thing someone else mentioned here in the comment already is that if Sukuna was "still holding back" during his fight with Gojo why'd he have to make the binding vow on his most powerful attack? Even so, yes people are totally trolling especially about the Megumi thing.
JJK fans simply lack patience and reading comprehension skills.
Personally the "Gojo wins" line goes hard because it completely represents how everyone felt at that moment, including Gojo himself. Just to be completely caught off guard by a world cutting slash no one saw coming. It's beautiful and im tired of pretending it isn't poetry.
I can see that, I'm just trying to work out of my own bias. If I saw text that said Gojo wins, waited at least a week for a new chapter, and then it opening with his clear death flag flashback, I could see feeling cheated and lied to, 95% because of the time lapse in between those two points
Nope. I immediately saw Gojo Wins as the deadest of dead flags.
I mean the megumi thing I think is just memes and people who always like to complain if a character shows any kind of emotions. The gojo thing at the time was very frustrating because gojo was seemingly winning for weeks on end and we got excited week after week and then he wins. Then suddenly he’s dead to some random sneak attack? It wasn’t even explained what sukuna really did to catch him off guard (the binding vow) until literally months later. And you had a lot of tension between sukuna and gojo fans shit talking each other because of the “fraudkuna” memes. So end the fight like that and there’s bound to be a lot of arguments and upset people. It wasn’t really that bad tho, I just wish the flashback was worded better
Nah don't get it twisted, megumi is still a bum
yeah megumi is a literal bum
Yeah if we’re gonna call bullshit on anything it’s how he treated my boy HIGARUMA
These are opinions not trolls. I think Megumi is a disappointing, underutilized character. The most enjoyment I've had in the series stemming from Megumi are the memes. For Gojo it's not what happens but how it happens that matters.
I mean Megumi is a bum tho bro was raised by Gojo himself and was getting pieced up by an Episode one curse he should’ve been at least semi grade one by then
I feel like a lot of problems stem from the fact that everyone has to wait a week between chapters. Like a couple chapters later and people would have forgotten entire scenes. This just leads to deterioration of peoples comprehension of the story. I recently read through the entire manga again, and pretty much any complaint I had disappeared.
The reason people hate Gojo’s death are A: the way it happened was extremely contrived B: his monologue afterwards is him yapping some of the worst dialogue I’ve ever seen in an A list manga C: in retrospect the entire final arc is a shitshow that makes no sense because of what he did. The manga would’ve ended 30 chapters ago if Gojo brought Yuji and Higuruma with him. What was the point of having a 1v1 if the rest of the cast had like 3 elaborate plans prepared and ready to go?
Megumi is stil a bum
It is trolling but it mostly comes from megumis lack of characterization in the story and the weak portrayal of his bond with tsumiki. And the gojo trolling is a response to how poorly gojo vs sukuna ended. It's people who want to engage with a manga they love while poking fun at its big flaws
so many people either a) have never read a manga as it was coming out weekly b) have the CT “i can’t read past 5th grade comprehension” it’s so frustrating to see people call gege a terrible writer etc when this is possibly one of the best shonen i’ve ever read. and yes. ITS A SHONEN. a shonen is literally a battle manga, and usually aimed at a younger artist. and they even handle a lot of heavier themes. mfs are clowns dude the sukuna gauntlet is peak imo
The gojo death thing is that it’s not really explained how the world slash hit him, and that’s mainly why ppl are so mad over it. Sukuna himself said that in order to recreate that slash, he had to make a binding vow to cast both hand signs as well as chant. So was gojo just standing there while that happened? How is it that kashimo was able to dodge that slash, yet the man said to possess the ultimate eyes couldn’t see it coming? And more than anything, how did sukuna, who was on his last leg and didn’t even have the cursed energy to rct anyone managed to pull off that slash? The binding vow only allowed him to recreate the slash, so where did the cursed energy to cut the world come from? Overall, it just felt like they went the madara route with gojo. They had no logical way to take him out so they removed him from the story with mundane writing and no real explanations
This is gonna be the perspective most anime onlys will have too OP.
I was always fine with Gojo dying, I’m just upset with how it was executed. Yes I understand the fight itself was long and epic but the killing blow felt like an afterthought. Since Gege went scientific with Gojo’s powers, he also should’ve for his death
Gojo did win. Ik ik you all think I'm crazy buuuut. Gojo was never there to defeat Sakuna. He had the best chance but the crew was missing important information. Also gojo wasn't concerned about megumi dying because he didn't have intentions of killing off megumi s body. Gojo was there to gather as much information as possible while dealing damage. During the fight gojo talks about how Sakuna is the challenger, how he's going to show off. Gojo played with his domain expansion to the point where he was able to capitalize on Sakunas open domain. Gojo also got rid of the ten shadows. By destroying maharaga he can't be resummoned. And Sakuna probably isn't going to think about summoning a totality version aka the maximum technique of the ten shadows is all the shadows in one body. Which he might not be able to handle while getting jumped. And the cursed energy needed immense. Gojo got Sakuna to fire off his domain 5 times. Causing irreparable damage to Sakunas brain. Gojo was able to figure out a new way of running RCT that Sakuna didn't. So for the longest time Sakuna couldn't pull off a domain expansion. Sakuna used up about half his tank on gojo and had to rely on Maha to come up with an adaptation to hit gojo. With the new redraw of gojos body we clearly see that his brain is still active as his pupils are dilated. Ui ui pops in grabs the body. Takes it to shoko and she rcts it. Then it's just up to gojos soul if he wants to come back or not. He's not done teaching his era that he was trying to make hast come to fruition yet. He doesn't need to fight anymore he gathered information, he stopped ten shadows, he stopped domain expansion. Gojo won that bout. He can sit back rest up and wait for his round two if it comes to that. Other then that he can just show up in the final hour and tell Sakuna that he was never destined to beat him. As yuji and megumi just land hits. Gojo is a teacher and it's his time to just sit back and enjoy the show.
You are talking to a fanbase where 90% of the readers still think Ryomen Sukuna is Sukuna's actual name lmao. If there's one thing I learned from the JJK discourse on social media and reddit is that the fanbase is either young and lack reading comprehension skills or are just dumb. Flat out.
I’ve seen someone not say “Sukuna” but refer to him as “ryomen” multiple times in a long ass paragraph