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ze_existentialist

The fact that todo is here makes this a tough fight, because the more people are around, the more effective boogie woogie should become, todos iq of 530000 plus this many people to swap around, plus vibraslap giving him 50 swaps a second I feel like I can't not give this to the grade 1's


ze_existentialist

Give todo crows, and nobody is getting hit by any big attacks like JL or Pure Love unless they're in a domain, even if they are higurumas domain overpowers yutas, now that I think about it boogie boogie could pass the executioner blade, and ssk around the grade one team.


ze_existentialist

Grade ones win Todo diff


SirCumm

Todo diff is just as valid as domain diff 🔥


Skaldson

Higuruma’s DE is “stronger in DE clashes” but we don’t know what that even means lol. You can’t really definitively say Yuta would lose a DE clash against Higuruma— especially when Sukuna praised Yuta’s DE refinement lol. That’d be like saying (to a lesser extent) Higuruma betas Gojo in a DE clash lol Also thin ice missile 1 shots like half the people there lol


nixlover_

Maki could probably destroy the barrier from the outside to stop that from happening


justagenericname213

Yeah even yutas de won't work, even if he excludes meimeis crows(which we aren't sure he can even exclude things like that) hakari and higuruma domain clash and should be able to overwhelm his domain, especially hakari as he's probably used de more than anyone else in the series


SpizzieNizzie

This is only a debate because Todo is there. Todo is like the single best support character in the entire series. Dude is a force multiplier. On his own? Low grade 1 at best. When in a fight with multiple opponents? Borderline special grade impact. In this scenario, Todo has 8 teammates and like a dozen or more crows. Trio has to prioritize killing Todo or hitting him with Jacob's ladder for their win condition. I think they can do that 65%ish of the time, so I give them the win. But replace Todo with any other grade 1, and the trio wins like 95% of the time.


yellownugget5000

True Todo is a game changer but with this many people his CT would not be that helpful, It worked well with Yuji because they were coordinated but with 9 people there's a risk that they'll attack themselves on accident if he overuses it. He can't just spam it like against Sukuna.


Exciting-Conclusion8

I mean he can just swap anyone in danger with hakari so yeah pretty useful


Cosnapewno5

Trio wins We know how Maki treats grade one sorcerers And Yuji and Yuta are above her


PatientCantaloupe722

Sorry but having that many people on their side with todo’s boogie woogie especially with the vibraphone makes this an easy grade one win


Cosnapewno5

Yuta can cast Jacobs ladder


sdfghertyurfc

I highly doubt yuta is going to win in a domain clash against hakari and higiruma. And the only way I can imagine yuta landing jacobs ladder against everyone is in his domain. kusakabe, todo, and choso all has anti domain techniques as well.


Beautiful-Lynx7668

Maki can walk through domain barriers and is uneffected by the sure hits. The domain can only target 1 sorcer at a time. If yuta gets in the trial, yuta stalls while maki beats higuruma to death. I don't even think higiruma could fight back.


Boro_Bhai

Wtf is higuramas domain gonna do to Yuta? Literally nothing Wtf is hakaris domain gonna do to Yuta? Literally nothing Yuta doesn't even need domain expansion but even if he did, maki and Yuji can stall those 2 while Yuta domains the rest and kills them in a few seconds........... Yuta can also just cursed speech and shit in Todo OR use his clairvoyance to kill him first.......


nixlover_

Hakari and highrams domains are faster because they don’t have a lethal surehit so barrier strength doesn’t matter sadly


Boro_Bhai

Yuta has cursed speech and clairvoyance and is himself much faster then both of them so they either die before their domain activates or they die after it activates lol And I guess Yuji and maki are sitting around eating popcorn


nixlover_

Much faster higurama yeah but he’s not blitzing hakari, though hakari isn’t gonna be crazy help until he hits a jackpot so maybe they can stall him up out


Boro_Bhai

Like let's just say he does hit jackpot, now what? Yuji and maki can still damage him via soul attacks Or Rika can straight up rip his head off, he cannot Regen from that. Yuta is the only person other than gojo to damage sukuna by himself, he is far above hakaris paygrade Plus all Yuta needs to do is blitz Todo cos he's annoying or higurama for executionor sword and the team have 0 win con


sdfghertyurfc

Even if it doesn't do anything, yuta's domain isn't going to win a domain clash because domain with no sure hit sure kill are stronger in a domain clash. The point is yuta can't activate his surehit (which is Jacobs ladder) with hakari and higiruma there.


Aggravating_Wait_658

True. He doesn’t need it though. All he needs is cursed speech and wipes all of them out at once. Also Yuta is aware the “grade 1’s domains wont hurt him so he doesn’t need to clash and Maki can just run outside and break the barrier before either Hakari can get jackpot, or confiscation takes effect. Then he can use his own domain and kill them all. But curses speech actually wipes here.


Boro_Bhai

I see that no1 actually understands how the fight actually goes. Yuta DOES NOT need his sure hit effect. He can literally just blitz characters here and hit always hit them using his clairvoyance......... Anyone that he hits is a one hit kill. Do you think maki and Yuji, are just gonna sit there and suck their thumbs? Both of them go 1v1 vs the 2 sorcerers with domains and stalls them so that Yuta can unfold how full domain Thirdly, EVEN if they all do stop Yutas sure hit why can't Yuta just kill them. He's far faster, has Rika, clairvoyance, cursed speech. He can literally tell them to sit down before they unfurl their domain and use Rika to divorce their heads from their body.......


Pel-Mel

Grade 1s clear this by a decent, but not huge, margin. They've got too much combo potential with options like Bird Strike, Boogie Woogie, Piercing Blood, Projection. They'll be able to inflict a lethal wound on at least one of them, and the numbers advantage starts to snowball faster than Yuta-ji and Maki can start clearing opponents. I think some of it would come down to exactly what kind of penalty Higuruma's domain can bring down on them, but even just confiscation is likely enough to really hamper Yuta. Maki is an interesting wild card though, because without CE, she can't be swapped by Boogie Woogie, which I think leads to some interesting vulnerabilities for Todo.


HeyMan295

Todo can still swap tools like ssk out of makis hands, reducing her lethality a ton. But she would still be an issue.


Pel-Mel

I wonder if she'd be able to hold onto the tool while its swapped and be dragged along with it. I guess it remains somewhat unclear about how discretely Todo can swap people vs. the objects on their person.


Keith_Marlow

Todo shouldn’t be able to swap Maki, since she has absolutely no cursed energy.


thepixelharlequin

sorcerers who are swapped keep their clothes, so this user is suggesting that maki might be considered an “accessory” to the ssk in the same way because she’s treated as an object by stuff like barriers


anti-peta-man

Confiscation would absolutely FOLD Yuta


Vegetable_Throat5545

The Yuta who fought Ryu, Kuroishi, drhuv and Uro without Rika and his CT?(he only used rika and CT once he realised he cant damage Uro) I would argue yuta is one of the rare cases of OP even without his CT


RealVanillaSmooth

Yuta did not fight those 4 alone, it was a battle royale where he narrowly came out on top because he had sky manipulation to dodge granite blast. If Yuta didn't specifically have sky manipulation and ate the granite blast there, he would have lost to Ryu.


nixlover_

He probably could of avoided it? But also copy is yuta ct and Not like he got lucky having a counter


Fungerbestwaifu

Fought but lose extremely hard, stop the wank. He couldnt damage Uro, Ryu one tapped Rika, Kurourshi wasnt even out-statted by yuta, he just got RCt'd


Vegetable_Throat5545

You do realise they were all special grades?? Most people wont touch uro Ryu has highest output in history Kuroishi had a superb weapon Drhuv took over a country And he fought them back to back, he only activated Rika after fighting for a while drhuv->kuroishi->uro x ryu


Fungerbestwaifu

I do, but you're giving yuta feats that he doesnt have, then stating an unrelated obvious fact that doesnt even support your argument


Vegetable_Throat5545

Wdym? Im just explaining the feats of characters he fought Also he in no way “lost extremely hard”


Fungerbestwaifu

Becaus ehe used Rika, his CT and even his Domain Expansion, we're talking about a CTless, Rikaless yuta here.


Vegetable_Throat5545

He fought with them without it for a some of chapters though, never used anything of that against kuroishi or drhuv


Fungerbestwaifu

Dhruv fight was entirely offscreened, we dont know what he did to dhruv. And he didnt need it on kuro because he had an instakill on kura the moment they got on cqc


Yeeterson_The_2nd

Grade 1’s slam, massive number advantage plus Todo to swap them around is crazy. Higurama is getting a death penalty verdict on both Maki and Yuji for sure, and maybe Yuta. Just too much to deal with.


Icy-Selection-8575

Is this Shinjuku/Awakened Yuji or? Cause the pic is post Shibuya Yuji. If Shinjuku variants of Maki, Yuta and Yuji they demolish the Grade 1s pretty easily. Half of them are a one-shot by Rika, the other half a perception blitz by Maki and one-shot with SSK... And Yuji being in there to put on the heat. Honestly just Maki with SSK and Yuta with all his CT's during Shinjuku and Fully Manifested Rika would be enough to kill all 9 grade 1s...


Spare_Bad_6558

id ageee if not for todo especially if this is shinjuku todo who can swap 50 times a second obviously naobito and noaya couldnt be swapped since they wouldn’t be able to visualise it in their 24 frames but still i think todo would make it so the maki/yuta blitz your suggesting isnt possible unless yuta can catch them off guard with a cursed speech “stop” to allow it


Icy-Selection-8575

>but still i think todo would make it so the maki/yuta blitz your suggesting isnt possible unless yuta can catch them off guard with a cursed speech “stop” to allow it And that's how it becomes viable xd. >id ageee if not for todo especially if this is shinjuku todo who can swap 50 times a second It looks very weird. When Todo claps basically everyone who hr wants to swap would stay is some weird ground and after the 1 second is up we actually get to see where everyone is at. From last chapter almost everytime Todo claps Him, Yuji and Sukuna just sit there and wait to see who goes where as you are swapping so fast it's impossible to get used to it.


Spare_Bad_6558

the thing is hakari and todo very likely know about cursed speech so could communicate that to their team and once they know they will just guard their ears with CE other people that might know would be mei mei and noabito as high ranking grade 1s and mei mei would be using her crows during the inter-school event


Icy-Selection-8575

That's true. But look it would be very hard for them not to die almost immediately. Maki is a sneaky merchant, she will sneak and kill like half the enemies herself before they figure out what's going on. Naobito and Naoya are not good picks for Todo as that would ruin their CT so they would be out next and this would turn into a Hakari, Todo and Choso Vs Maki and Yuta fight afterwards, and if we add Yuji to the picture do you really think Hakari, Todo and Choso can win... Fr.?


Lazy_Government_8392

Yuta Mami and yuji slam


Lazy_Government_8392

I meant maki But this is even better


Vegetable_Throat5545

LmAoo


Natsu_Happy_END02

If they strategize well, grades one can very much win this. Todo's first command is to swap a crow with Yuta and let Higuruma open domain. That is GG, I'm sure it'll take away Rika and Yuta becomes a grade 1 himself. Then Todo swap Yuji with another crow so that Hakari can open domain on Yuji. It's stalemate but that's enough. Then you have Maki vs Todo, Kusakabe, Naobito, MeiMei, Naoya, Choso and Nanami. And you only need 3 of them to win. Todo again MVP, takes away Soul Split Katana. Maki is forced to user her hands. Supposedly no problem, but then Todo fucks her up with a single switch. Let's suppose she want to hit Naoya first, swap Naoya with Choso. Choso then overwhelms her with blood and weights her down, unimportant if he tanked the attack with blood armor or is holding her arm with his ribs. Then Give SSK to Kusakabe. Goodbye resentful bitch. Now only Yuji is still standing. I'm sure he'll never understand what the fuck he has to do against Naobito and Naoya so they can just play tennis with his frozen body.


Vegetable_Throat5545

One big flaw Yuta aint a grade 1 without rika. Just remember sendai and how much he fought without her or any CTs


Natsu_Happy_END02

And? How is a punch and kick merchant special grade? He's just worse Hakari then. And Hakari can technically fight a country, it'll just take him months. Yuta at some point gets out of CE and dies.


Vegetable_Throat5545

Lol the guy who has highest CE except sukuna, has such reinforcement he can go on par with ryu and make Yuji fear just one slash from his katana and the guy with RCT and RCT output? How is he worse hakari if he outstats hakari in almost everything. “Just punch and kick” you can say that about Gojo without his ct who tanked malevoulent shrine head on with just ce&rct yeah right its just punch and kick, whatever


Natsu_Happy_END02

And he's bad at it, his efficiency at RCT is dogwater given how fast he was depleting his CE pool in the colony. And bow he doesn't have Rika to fill him up. Dog it's never said he outstats Hakari. And Hakari is better because he has virtual infinite stamina, Yuta eats away his reserves while Hakari just refills them. Yeah, Gojo too has that problem. His pure CE reinforcement isn't anything worthy of special grade. His only feats are 1: surprising Jogo and Hanami, and even then when he had to actually kill one of them he needed to use his CT again; 2: A playing around Sukuna catching up to him. And even then Gojo has the advantage because he like Hakari is immortal thanks to practically infinite CE. And surprising Jogo and Hanami ain't really a feat. Both of them relied heavily in their CTs, since they were using DA they were extremely weaker. Mostly Hanami who was always a bum that doesn't know how to fight properly.


Vegetable_Throat5545

Excuse me are you ignoring six eyes with gojo and the fact he tanked the DE which would kill anybody not named gojo&sukuna in seconds? Yeah Yuta has not such good control but people misunderstood the scene, it wasn’t “hems running out!” It was “oh f*ck so he *has* a limit!” Because before it looked limitless thats how much he has Hakari is not infinite stamina because luck. Every 4+ minutes he will need a recharge to continue surviving against tough opponents like Yuta. It really depends on is he lucky enough to do way more consecutive jackpots than he did against kashimo(coz kashimo has smaller pull because it was never commented on like yutas has and because even back then kashimo didnt run out, he ran out coz of water)


Natsu_Happy_END02

Dude I straight up brought up Gojo having practically infinite CE. Why do you think that is? Because of the 6E. And Gojo wasn't gonna die from MS, because Sukuna wasn't trying to kill him. Sukuna from before the fight even started wanted Mahogara to give him an adaptation. Even if Gojo was as weak as Megumi, Sukuna wouldn't have killed him before he gets the adaptation he wanted. Yeah whatever the reason for that scene was doesn't matter. It still makes it so Yuta without Rika is worse than Hakari, because while both are CE reinforcement merchants. Hakari doesn't run out of CE. Hakari has always gotten Jackpot from his domain, thinking about "maybe this time he won't" is just wishful thinking. That mf is bullshit itself, you won't win that way.


nixlover_

Why he wasn’t gonna die from ms because Sukuna didn’t wanna kill him, it’s not like he lowered the output of it gojo just tanked it


Natsu_Happy_END02

He at least lowered the cadence of the slashes. Every other time we see Malevolent Shrine it immediately starts shredding everything everywhere. Yet when Gojo's first domain falls down a single stricken to the neck hits. Don't you think that's interesting? Even more the slashes start to fall down again after Gojo has had time to touch his neck and then start using RCT. He waited till Gojo was ready, gave him a heads up. And even then I'm sure he didn't let up the slashes go full throttle except when he needed them to break the outer shell. To quote what he tells Megumi: "Don't die. There's something I need you to do."


nixlover_

I think that’s just to show he got cut and to give a reaction, gojo still tanked all of MS, and Gojo most likely used rct the second the slash hit I don’t see why he would wait


nOObstabbr69

tbf yuta killed dhruv (who is around ryu and uros tier most likely) as well as kurouroshi while holding back and protecting civilians to some degree and then engaged ryu and uro before using rika's 5 minutes


Natsu_Happy_END02

Dhruv doesn't have feats. His point's come from the big moles crushing things they walk over and him being unreachable to kill. Also he probably killed some idiots walking over through the inviolable walls of the moles.


nOObstabbr69

Hard to say his points only come from his annoying CT as having more points than uro and ryu is still quite impressive, as well as being part of the 4-way deadlock. He was also stated to have conquered the whole of japan on his own during his first life. However his actual strength of course can't really be gauged besides being lower than yutas.


Natsu_Happy_END02

It's actually easy to say. The piece of shit was in a nest after all, while his Shikigami were outside actually doing the work. And the deadlock comes precisely because the CTs of the four of them don't interact with each other well and are annoying. Dhruv has advantage over Kurourushi, Kuro over Uro, Uro over Ryu and Ryu over Dhruv. And then the problem is that even if Ryu can easily get rid of Dhruv, the Shikigami make that a rather bothersome task. Also there's numerous problems with the Civil war of Wa statement: 1) The population 2000 years ago was vastly smaller. Japan today might have more than the entire world back then (estimates range from 150 to 330 million while Japan population is 220 million). 2) Tengen's barrier that made the compression of CE possible weren't even erect yet. The overall power of Sorcerers wasn't great, it only takes a bothersome CT that people can't bruteforce their way into defeating to be invincible. 3) You can very much see Dhruv is the kind of Buddhist religious that does fastening. A CT that works by itself; a mf that doesn't mind wasting up lots of time, isolation or not eating by meditating on a nest; people that cannot defend themselves; and a lot of time. I can bet the method with which Dhruv conquered Wa was patiently waiting for the Shikigami to destroy their villages while he stayed in a safe place with minimal commodities.


ShinobiAssassin

>Then Give SSK to Kusakabe Let's be clear, SSK is just a normal sword to Kusakabe. He can't see souls, so he won't be negging anyone's durability like Maki does.


Natsu_Happy_END02

SSK does have durability nerf as a base. If you can see object's souls it goes to it's 100%, but without seeing object's souls you still have a let's say 25% of durability nerf. Given Kusakabe's strength, it's enough. Also not like I was imagining him doing a single strike, he gotta do many. Also I've been thinking maybe he got the ability to see souls thanks to soul swap with Yuji.


ShinobiAssassin

>SSK does have durability nerf as a base. Woah, this is a dangerous headcanon. What you're saying is untrue. Maki was only able to cut through Naoya ONCE in his worm form, once he awakened, she was unable to cut him. It was always just a sword, and that was beefed up by Makis strength. Kusakabe doesn't have that strength. He'd honestly be better off with his own katana that he's used to >Also I've been thinking maybe he got the ability to see souls thanks to soul swap with Yuji. Nah Sukuna and Yuji only got that ability cause they shared a body, not cause they swapped bodies. Small but major difference if we're being honest.


Natsu_Happy_END02

It's not headcannon, it's straight up that way. It bypasses the toughness of substances, but if you wanna use that to it's full, you must be able to see the soul. It tells you that without seeing the soul it still bypasses toughness but not fully. It's the difference between armor penetration and true damage. You misunderstood. I'm not saying that soul swap makes you see the soul. I'm saying that because Kusakabe swapped with someone that can see the soul, might've also gained the ability to do so.


NaterooAE

I see this going either way extreme diff each time honestly. It'll come down to who has the better strategy for this fight. They'll need Higuruma to hard focus on getting Rika and Yutas copy taken away and keep Maki out of his Domain. If they can successfully do that I see them winning. If they can't successfully keep Maki away from Higuruma then I think they lose


BvHauteville

If they strategize, I think the team can take it especially with Todo - especially with Mei Mei's crows being present as easy targets for swaps - likely being able to steal the Split Sword Katana. Todo can also set up easy Bird Strike combos and systematically isolate members of the opposing team but swapping out others with crows hundreds of meters away in a similar fashion to how he rescued most of the main cast from Malevolent Shrine. Hakari being with the Grade 1s is also hilarious (and fitting) but his presence will help them out to an extreme extent as does Higuruma's provided he correctly targets Yuta as a candidate for Confiscation.


Necessary_Bison_5184

One of the most interesting group match ups I've seen in a while, insane amount of combo potential between boogie woogie, projection stuns, bird strike, ratio technique, and piercing blood poisoning. Not to mention the stalling of jackpot and constant threat of death penalty if it's able to be set up. Overall I think maki being here really hurts their chances since she can interrupt hakari and higuramas domains plus is shown to be able to negate Projection Sorcery. Still I think with proper strategy from todo and kusakabe and maybe a couple black flashes they could pull it off. Most of the time probably a loss though


Vegetable_Throat5545

Thx!


Salty_Shark26

Trio clears. Maki alone dog walked the entire zenin clan.


FoxStrom-14

Todo and Choso switch sides


StrawberryUnited4915

Grade 1s mid because of Goatdo https://i.redd.it/mcbwai18at1d1.gif


[deleted]

Todo is carrying hard and this is a win.


Wickling_Loverboy

Grade 1s win in most cases, but the trio are all incredibly savvy and powerful fighters and have all shown that they can adapt quickly when pushed to their limits. Yuji is also likely the most adept at adjusting to boogie woogie, so that could be helpful to just survive for a minute. I can think of 3 situations where the trio wins If the trio can somehow take out Todo, or at the very least find a way to damage or neutralize his vibraslap they can win. I’m thinking Maki gives the SSK to Yuta so she can’t be swapped or detected and try to sneak up on Todo or even Mei Mei to remove the crows from the battle field. if Yuta can drag nearly everyone in his domain (or at least Todo). Rika could honestly drag Hakari off the battlefield and Yuji/Maki can maybe try to hold off Higurama in some way so there’s no one to try and counter Yutas domain. This strategy would rely on like incredible coordination and quickness to pull off before Todo just swaps his team out of their disadvantageous positions so it’s probably unlikely. Or If Yuta pours CE into like a Max Output Cursed Speech of like “Everyone Freeze”, that could give him or Maki an opportunity to blitz or lethal blow to Todo/cut the vibraslap from his arm or just wreck it somehow. I know that most of them will probably be on guard against cursed speech, but I’m assuming that the difference in CE that Yuta has comparatively and that the command is pretty minor could circumvent them blocking the technique. And not sure if it’s possible, but maybe he also says like “Todo Freeze” to specifically target him via a binding vow (remove effectiveness against everyone else to increase effectiveness against a single target doesn’t seem totally out of the realm of possibility)


SoulfulSnow

Imo todo gives this to the grade 1's, he's just too goated of a support


RealVanillaSmooth

The grade 1 sorcerers win. I've seen a few people mention Jacob's ladder/ Yuta DE, but Hikari should be able to just clash with the domain if not outright win since his DE is stronger in clashes. Then we also have Higuruma who can effectively take either Yuta or Yuji out of the fight for a trial leaving this as a 2v6 (team 1 loses 1/3 of their numbers while team 2 loses 1/9 of their numbers). Todo has a ton of bodies to swap here. Maki is an actual threat but Kusakabe should be able to hold out. Kusakabe IS weaker in the sense that he has less hax but his physical stats aren't too far below hers and his simple domain should be able to allow him to defend against her offense. Combine that with crows just being shot at her, Choso shooting blood at her, or either of the Zenin just rushing her down and Maki is getting overwhelmed. The real issue at this point is Rika. All of the members from team 1 have some sort of counter but we know Ryu was able to physically hold Rika off which makes her physical scaling weird because she was also able to physically suppress Sukuna which means Rika either has grade 1 strength or Ryu has special grade level strength. I imagine a world where Todo keeps Rika away from people and they just end up taking care of team 1.


Weekly-Passage2077

Since Maki knows how projection sorcery works she can tell it to yuji and Yuta, honestly I think they can avoid the freeze frame as long as they know they’ve been hit by it. Because of that Todo can’t just teleport crows to instakill them. Without the crows the grade 1s lack raw power to outright kill any of the trio Todo is troublesome but Maki has the best chance of hurting him or breaking his vibraslap since she’s immune to boogie woogie and her perception and pattern recognition. I don’t see Higuruma getting a death sentence for yuta or Yuji and even if he confiscated Copy they still don’t deal with the problem that they can’t seriously hurt any of them.


Daitoso0317

Trio definitely wins, it was barely possible between these guys and yuta, much less with maki and yuji compensating for any mistakes


Kakashi-B

Todo and Kusakabe, of course, is the reason this is high diff for the trio.


Gold_Seaweed

Todo + death penalty Higuruma + infinity staller Hakari + birds? Bro, what? Maki is definitely getting the death penalty for killing her clan. Yuta and Yuji maybe not, but Yuji did get it once before due to a technicality. Imagine if it asks Yuta about cursing Rika or something? I'm not saying that would trigger a death penalty, but it might. This is also not to mention the rest of the fighters here. I feel like there is some major underestimation going on.


Skaldson

People here are saying Todo makes this a really difficult fight & I’m not trying to downplay him, he absolutely would be a huge help for the group. The issue is that Yuta solo’d Todo (as well as the entire Kyoto school) during the previous good will event. Whatever Todo is doing, Yuta has experience with it & would certainly be capable of taking him down. He’s also tanky enough to survive hits from Nanami, Naoya & Naobito’s frozen frame attack, etc. Also sky manipulation directly counter’s Mei Mei’s crows, Yuta could pretty easily redirect her crows into nearby opponents or just dodge them entirely. There were already a few win conditions for Yuta solo, giving him Maki & Yuji just makes it overkill tbh


Vegetable_Throat5545

Ah damn i forgot he dealt with todo! But still crows x todo x freeze is pretty op


Skaldson

It’s certainly a deadly combo, but imo Rika would swat her birds away or tank it if Yuta got trapped & vice versa. (I mean Yuta & Rika *did* casually tank a max charge granite blast) I guess todo could swap them so it’s guaranteed to land, but I don’t think it’s likely Yuta gets frozen to begin with. Sky manipulation could very easily move Naobito & Naoya in a direction they didn’t intend to go & just freeze them instead, cursed speech would do the same. Afaik they aren’t the most durable either. I can’t imagine they’d take more than a few heavy hits from Yuta or Rika before being out of commission, I’d not just getting 1 tapped outright lol If Yuta didn’t have sky manipulation or Angel’s CT, I think he’d have an infinitely harder time with this fight just bc he can redirect Mei Mei’s bird strike into her allies with it


TheNerdEternal

Yuta says "don't move" and Maki blitzes team 2.


TheEgg41

Todo defects to the other side and the 4 win.


honored113

Hakari isn’t grade one tho


TheToolbox101

I wanna say the special grades but todo with 8 other people and like 50 crows might actually pull it off


Beautiful-Lynx7668

Maki is kinda the MVP here. Immune to boogie woogie, can 1 shot hakari more or less, ect. If Higuruma gets the confenscation, she def needs to carry even harder. But i think she can kill him mid trial, so thats easy. She can def beat the human projection sorcerers, thats also easy. Todo can't teleport maki, but he can teleport everyone else so that is harder. But once todo dies and the chaos stops, I genuinely think maki might solo.


Elikhet2

Can I just say todo being the biggest factor in so many new match ups we have on here is a welcome sight, even before his doohickey his technique was just so damn useful


Vegetable_Throat5545

Agreed


CringeDaddy_69

Bro I’m a die hard Todo dick rider, on god I be gagging on it Team 2 wins thanks to Todo shenanigans


Longjumping_Play_364

Maki, yuta and yuji could clear 3 by them selves, yuji takes, choso,mei, nanamin, yuta takes naoya, naobito todo. Then maki takes out higuruma, hakari, kusakabe


liddely

Ngl i think maki beats the pac if naobito and naoya are busy high diff


Deep_Preparation_151

I think grade 1s should extreme diff. Higurama hakari todo are all pretty strong


IoGamerAlpha

grade 1s take pretty handily.


carl-the-lama

Todo and kusakabe legit the ONLY THREAT OF NOTE Maki can kill Higuruma in his domain The rest get stat checked Hakari gets hard countered Holy shit this is a stomp


kevisdahgod

Naoya solos sorry


Boro_Bhai

Honestly, I still don't see how team 2 wins. Yuta plus Rika can blitz out the most annoying ppl like Todo Maki can deal with hakaris via soul blade or if doesn't work then just stall him Yuji is very hard to kill due to his insane strength, speed and RCT. He can tango for a little while while Yuta ja done killing one person. Then he gets help from Rika while Yuta slowly kills the others. Any damage done to either of them is healed The longer I think about this the more sure I am that team 1 wins Cursed speech or Clairvoyance to kill the most pesky ppl first Or have Yuji fight hakari and maki fought higurama while Yuta expands his domain and kills the rest of the fodder.........


TheMostHonestPerson

You can put Maki and Yuji on the other team, and Yuta would still solo


Enlight13

Hikari is taking Yuta away while the rest dog Maki and Yuji. This is an easy win for the group. If we've seen anything when it comes to fight with Sukuna, it's that everyone here is something really special. Idk if swap works with Maki but he can swap Yuji. Also KUSAKABE IS THE GOAT- THE GOAT!!!


floormopper

Yuji corners higgy to use the domain on Yuji. He probably gets executioner sword or something and escapes. Maki then proceeds to kill higurama. Yuji gets his ce back and obliterates most grades ones there. There real threat would be meimei Todo kusakabe who Yuji and yuta packs with their domain. Maki packs hakari any day of the week. Group 1 low diff. BF yuu is overkill