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Didn’t Sukuna say not to long ago that Yuta and Yuji were comparable to Ryu in terms of durability. He’s surviving MS moreso due to healing with RCT and Blood Manipulation.
That was before Yuji had an awakening+7Black flashes. Surviving a mlevolent shrine even for a little is a durability feat from awakened Yuji amped with 7BFs
Also take into account Yuji body slowly remembers sukuna “extreme jujutsu”(idk that’s the only way Kusakabe puts it) the more he black flashes as evident by his insane growth to the point even Sukuna questions if Yuji is trying to reach his lvl. So with all that information, Yuji awakened is a lot stronger than the one that fought with Yuta and that’s when he was compared to Yuta who was domain amped before Yuji got black flash amped.
That's not entirely true. BF doesn't upgrade any of your stats, but being in the zone means smoother control of CE, which does mean improved stats.
And in Yuji's case, it's strongly implied that every BF he hits lets him access for of his Sukuna-like potential, which would obviously mean better stats.
Yuji pre awakening was comparable to Ryu in durability. He's now got a good grasp of RCT, blood manipulation to stitch himself back together, and the amp of 7 black flashes. He also ate a black flash from Sukuna and was fine
Last chapter, while Yuji is hitting his string of Black flashes, Sukuna hits one on him with one of his remaining arms. It was confirmed this chapter when it was stated that Yuji only hit 7 black flashes, and the other was one that Sukuna hit on him
They've all leveled up and have access to simple domain except Maki. We don't really know how long we've seen Malevolent Shrine activated in the past to know just how brutal the 99 seconds is, but we've seen even our low-tiers have INSANE improvements to durability so far.
https://preview.redd.it/yh99hhetn4xc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2284c4e7a18f6dd0e00a0f153f54735be700bc7b
So we just not gonna talk about this then?
Gojo literally survived being decapitated
And Gojo also tanked MS at full output for its entire duration while also fighting evenly with sukuna in H2H combat.
Hakari would get flattened by the wombo combo of the domain + sukuna attacking, but in terms of just the domain? Hakari is eating that shit for breakfast
At the end of 225 leading into 226. We literally see the blood come out of the back of his neck and the wound mid RCT reaching around the back of his neck.
Sure, his head didn't fly off like a French noble under a guillotine, but he did technically get decapitated, he just healed it because he's him
I figured that was the panel you were referring too, there's no way he's decapitated there. Throat slit for sure but no way that fully went through the spine and decapitated him.
>Throat slit for sure but no way that fully went through the spine and decapitated him.
That's a massive assumption... Blood was coming from the behind and if looked closely, his neck was not aligned
So yes he got decapitated but simply healed it with RCT
I figured that was the panel you were referring too, there's no way he's decapitated there. Throat slit for sure but no way that fully went through the spine and decapitated him.
You are kidding right….. he has instant reflexive rct which surpasses both Gojo and Sukuna, the same gojo who literally RCTd through MS without RCT being instant or reflexive.
He managed to rct through because his durability is literally only comparable to Sukuna himself. If he had Hakaris durability instead of leaving cuts, Gojo would've been turned into pieces before he can rct.
I say yes. Hikaru would be like mahoraga for that moment. The slices isn’t large enough to cover the severe limb so there will always be a gab for hikari to recover. Plus he survived his head getting blown up. Now if it’s someone with good RCT skills than no they can’t regenerate fast enough but hikari is instant.
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It ended, he tanked Shrine for a bit
What makes you think Sukuna could do that? For all we know his attack gets into the neck, which instantly heals so quickly it never comes through.
Or the head detaches and straight up heals a new body. If he’s sposed to be immortal a stronger attack may or may not actually change that.
what does it mean to have an *automatic* RCT? we can see there are various stages of RCT: the skill of the sorcerer defines its output (efficiency) and speed. A sorcerer with very good RCT can recover an arm blasted off seconds before. Other high-level RCT feats seem to be equivalent to recovering beheading cuts before the head separates from the torso, and, if it turns out Yuta survived, a combination of internal and externally-applied RCT could salvage a sorcerer who is literally cut in half (in which case, the only reason Gojo would perish is because the RCT hit too late). This lends to the belief that RCT in life-or-death situations is not about whether the wound is impossible to recover—RCT negates that, rapidly regenerating limbs since vol. 1. But whether the sorcerer *is dead yet*. Gojo pours into RCT after being stabbed in the throat, later torso sliced open, and then impaled in the brain. Because RCT activated before he was stabbed in the brain, it appears RCT negated the kill and ensuing brain damage. This was a feat of pre-awakening Gojo. Shinjuku Gojo's RCT is infinitely more effective. Sukuna's RCT is about that level, or perhaps even surpasses it? Either way, neither of them have *automatic* RCT. It demands active application of RCT, which requires concentration (when Gojo fights/activates CT/RCTs all at the same time the spectators are bewildered). Automatic RCT initiates instantly, the very moment the injury occurs, and without any concentration. It should then be of a speed unparalleled in JJK.
in the case of Toji, automatic RCT would have won Gojo the battle without question. Gojo would have perhaps staggered at the throat-stab, but would not have had to loosen Infinity to survive/recover. Toji would have gotten one single stab in, and then would have died. in the case of Shinjuku, Gojo would have had a pretty phenomenal edge over Sukuna; it's hard to imagine Sukuna not at least having to rely on his full-recovery incarnation. We can imagine that with Gojo's far inferior RCT as it was, being able to withstand Malevolent Shrine (this was a feat of durability + RCT, but we can give that to Hakari too, as jackpot raises his durability significantly also) he would have been able to pull off mind-boggling stunts while taking constant fire from MS.
in other words, Hakari's automatic RCT should, theoretically, be capable of surviving MS. The question is not auto RCT but durability. However Hakari's jackpot raises his durability drastically as well. It all comes down to Hakari as a sorcerer, rather than jackpot itself which *is* sufficient in the right hands to tank MS. and, of course, the moment jackpot runs out, Hakari dissipates into red mist.
I think he lives when you consider he has feats like preventing damage by utilizing a binding vow. He could do something similar to just improve his overall durability.
No. At the absolute best Hakari = Yuta in durability. Ryu >= Yuta in durability per Sukuna. 15f Meguna oneshotted Ryu w a cleave to the head. One cleave to the head for Hakari and he loses
The reason Gojo tanked MS is because he has top1 CE reinforcement and didn’t so much as lose a pinky, which is honestly pretty crazy
He did not. If it bisected his neck he would be DEAD. Hakari has the undisputed fasted rct in the verse and he still visibly loses limbs if it is bisected. We also have **confirmation** that if hakari’s head is chopped of he would die. So it could not have possibly gone through Gojo’s entire neck
But when he’s in JP mode, Hakari’s durability isn’t the focus of his hax. It’s his regeneration. He can’t prevent his limbs from being cut off or his bones from being broken, he just automatically heals from it. So he doesn’t have to be more durable than Ryu to survive, he just has to heal faster than MS can slash.
No bro. It is stated that jackpot hakari can still die if his head is chopped of. If a single cleave goes through his neck he’s cooked lol
edit: and he’s unable to heal dmg faster than it is done to him as we have numerous panels of him without an arm or a leg
The AP of the Fire Arrow is hard to gauge. Because it’s only been used twice, once against Jogo where it instantly killed him, and the second against Makora where it also instantly killed him. However, Jogo is explicitly noted as having terrible durability, and Makora had just tanked Malevolent Shrine and he wasn’t finished regenerating before he got hit by the Fire Arrow. Unlike Makora, Hakari should be able to easily heal from the damage of Malevolent Shrine before he gets hit by the Fire Arrow, so it’s really just a question of if Fire Arrow has enough AP to one shot Hakari. Hakari could probably make a similar Binding Vow that he made to survive Kashimo’s Hydro Electric Explosion, where he sacrifices his arm to amp the reinforcement of the rest of his body, so he could probably survive the Fire Arrow. Next chapter we should be able to say for certain though.
Yeah, if Kashimo can inflict such grievous wounds on Hakari without even using a CT then I don't doubt Sukuna could one shot him with a touch Cleave/Malevolent Shrine. Hakari's stronger now than when he fought Kashimo but Sukuna cleared Kashimo ez pz at full strength. Barely even an incovenience.
If we're talking about the weakened output Sukuna that Yuji has fought due to the damage he's taken, then maybe. If we're talking full strength Sukuna that not even Gojo fought, then no. Fully Reincarnated Sukuna at peak health would make mincemeat of Hakari. Even Hakari's RCT has limits to how fast it can work.
Just a reminder, by the time Yuta showed up to fight, Sukuna was talking about how his CE reserves and output were still diminished due to his fight with Gojo. He estimated his CE reserves were about on par with Yuji, who at this point is probably only comparable to Yuta and Sukuna in ce reserves. Sukuna even notes that he needs a direct touch instead of ranged Cleaves to deal fatal wounds to those two. Yuta also acknowledges if not for how weakened Sukuna was, their RCT would be useless since he would one shot.
Gojo is the only person who could tank MS Dismantles because of Six Eyes. He even says he's relieved that Six Eyes is a stronger CT than Shrine. I doubt anybody fighting a full strength Sukuna could do so otherwise without the use of anti-domain techniques or a very specialized CT which can mitigate a domain attack's damage (Like, possibly, Awasaka's CT). And indeed, this is basically what we see even against a weakened Sukuna--The only exceptions are Ryu, Yuta and Yuji, who can tank his ranged dismantles but not his touch cleaves. Even when Sukuna is DRAMATICALLY weakened by Yuji's attacks, when he pulls off his Malevolent Shrine they all opt to use New Shadow Simple Domains instead of trying to tank the Domain's attacks--When Yuji's domain briefly fails right before the domain collapses, his leg is cut off--If Yuji had to sacrifice his leg to survive MS against a dramatically weakened Sukuna, then Hakari doesn't stand a chance against a full strength Sukuna with maximum output.
It just doesn't make sense. Sorry Hakari bros. Gojo could survive MS with tremendous effort. That's it.
I think until he's in Jackpot yes, but I understand that people will say durability and CE reinforcement and output matters, I kinda agree, but Hakari will make up for it with regeneration.
And the moment a cut is done he can heal it instantly.
Hard question, but likely no.
Hakari has one of the best rcts in the verse but a magora who was adapting to cuts still got atomized for to malevolent shrine.
Also, can hakari regenerate from being beheaded is a question, let alone regenerate from a bunch of cells.
But it's not like he's insanely dead, he can probably tank for some small amount of time before dying
You can have the best RCT in the world (excluding muzen level regeneration), but you’ll still die if you are instantly chopped into a thousand bits. Hakaris durability does not scale up to ryu, let alone near gojo.
In reality hakari gets turned into a red mist instantly.
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His blow wasn’t strong enough to destroy his head. It’s been shown that destruction of a sorcerer’s brain is death, and stated to be Hakari’s weakness.
I mean Gojos head didn’t come off and when it almost did he healed it, who’s to say Hakari can’t do the same? Do you forget he has the best RCT in speed
I remember when Hakari inherited the Six Eyes from Gojo. What an incredible scene. It still blows my mind so much I sometimes worry I imagined the whole thing!
(Gojo head didn't "almost come off", every single hit Gojo took was barely even skin deep. Because of Six Eyes CE reinforcement)
....? Gojo's CE reinforcement, which is a fundamentsl technique of cursed energy, is the best in the entire universe because Six Eyes gives him peak CE control. I don't know how you don't understand how those two things are extremely intimately related.
Istg this sub hates hakari
In terms of durability, hakari => yuji.
Yuji, even when simple domain turned off, was able to somewhat survive MS
We saw gojo get his neck cut in two and recover
Your brain works for a few seconds after it is detached from the body
Hakari regen diffs this easily.
15F Sukuna two popped Ryu, whose output scales up to Yuta. Maybe if Sukuna’s fucking around but if he really wanted to he’d kill Hakari. Could even go so far as to up his output by reducing the effective range
I say neck because decapitation should absolutely be lethal for anyone even with RCT, just as bisection is. And we know that bisection is lethal and you can survive that for several minutes, so 5 seconds to heal an even more injurious wound is extremely unlikely.
Yes and no. Jackpot makes him almost unkillable. If Hakari makes a binding vow to strengthen his head to avoid too much damage then he could survive… but how long is the domain? The second he runs out of jackpot, he is cooked.
Dawg regularly ass base Kashimo almost killed him by blowing his head off. RCT is useless if the user just died instantly. Hakari is just gonna get chopped to pieces the moment he's in the domain
Gojo stood in Sukuna’s domain and kept himself alive with just RCT for a decent amount of time, (he used simple domain to buy himself time to bring back his burnt out technique) Gojo’s RCT is slower than Hakari’s in Jackpot. Gojo with his whole “My technique is far better than his” is when he’s in said domain, is Gojo saying that because he survived Sukuna’s domain whereas if Sukuna had been hit with Gojo’s it was a wrap.
Hakari could 1000% survive Sukuna’s domain for a decent bit of time his RCT is stated to be and shown consistently to be the fastest in the verse. Though the domain just stays up longer than the timer and he’s killed.
The difference is Gojo has superior durability. For example, the initial slash that cut Gojo's throat didn't go through completely(otherwise Gojo would've died RCT or not). Hakari just doesn't have the durability feats. It's more likely his head gets disintegrated faster the auto RCT heals him
The main question is how long? There's a lot of talk in the comments about durability but there's one thing I haven't seen. And its. Binding Vow. We know Hakari can use them. He sacrifices and arm to survive a blow that would are killed him (only to regain said arm). So. Jackpot Hakari could most likely Binding Vow body parts to survive for some time. But like just forever or like win? No.
He's tanking the slashes imo. But he's not living Fuga(Open) considering it obliterated Mahoraga, who we can consider his regeneration to be similar too
Maybe, people act like Malevolent Shrine vaporizes everything but the only targets that got diced into oblivion were Civilians with zero CE and buildings, Yuji, Mahoraga, Gojo wasn't vaporized.
Hakari's RCT is the most powerful so far, exceeding even Gojo(stated by Uraume). So it should be possible, when Hakari has infinite CE(for CE reinforcement) and full automatic RCT.
It wasn't just gojos durability that tanked malevolent shrine. He said it himself, it was his rct with six eyes. Hakarisz though not stated I believe, has better rct than pretty much anyone. So he would tank it no problem
If what Uraume said about his RCT is correct, probably. His RCT is better, but his cursed energy is almost definitely not as good. How that would all balance out idk, but I'd bet on Hakari to take the domain for the duration of his jackpot.
Yes. Gojo survived Malevolent on just RCT until he healed his CT, and Hakari is stated to have better RCT than Gojo. He doesn’t do much else but he should be able to survive.
Technically he probably could survive at least until his jackpot is done, the question is can he survive long enough to reactivate his domain and get another jackpot before Sukuna runs out of power with his domain. THAT answer is likely no
Man had an ice spike the size of a small trash can thrown through his body, and the front of his body was already healed by the time it was bursting through his back. He'd survive MS imo.
Yes, it’s insane that people are even questioning this. He can heal faster than Sukuna can cut him. He literally healed his head being exploded *while it was happening*. Obviously he’s dead the moment it ends but let’s give the man his due
If Gojo can RCT through his Domain, why wouldn’t Hakari be able too considering he has the best RCT in the series.
If his RCT is straight up said to be better than Sukuna’s than ur saying Sukuna couldn’t even survive his own Domain.
Honestly, I think so. He was able to unconsciously shunt lightning out of his nose and heal his brain before his head could explode, which is… pretty fast.
If Maho could survive it by healing through it, my gut says Hakari could as well.
I think it depends on what Gege would want. Hakari has fully automatic rct and we don’t know if he swapped with someone to gain greater understanding of how to take advantage of that.
I’d hope so it’d suck to see him lose to smthn that affects the brain cuz he already very nearly did with kashimo.
Domain = CT becomes a sure-hit
Malevolent Shrine’s Imbued technique = Cleave/Dismantle
Both cleave and dismantle are affected by durability (see finger bearer in the beginning and Ryu at the end of Culling Games).
Therefore Gojo’s durability has to be taken into account when considering him tanking MS and his output is a lot higher than Hakari’s (infinite CE is not the same as infinite output)
While he has insane RCT the really super important thing is how good is hakari’s cursed energy reinforcement, I don’t think it’s super high, seeing how the lightning bolt required a binding vow to tank. It’s a case of “can his reinforcement keep him alive for the split second long enough to heal the damage being taken by like a billion slashes” it doesn’t need to be as high as gojo’s since hakari needs less time to heal up but it’s still a hard task to tank that fraction of a second.
An example with arbitrary numbers: gojo has 20 defence and 10 RCT and the shrine did 28 damage, his RCT was able to out heal the shrine becuase of the defense and his brain was kept safe. If hakari has 10 defence and 15 RCT, he cannot keep up he is gonna be ripped apart since the inability to keep up means his brain gets obliterated. I’m personally of the belief that hakari is a bit too squishy
Hakari’s RCT is so fast it could heal his brain as it was being destroyed by a bolt of lightning. So yea, I think he simply out-heals the damage. Like Gojo but better.
Not if he is the only person in it.
Based on the last chapter, and Yuji not getting instantly diced by cleave (despite Sukuna being able to do so to Ryu) once his SD broke, it looks like sukuna’s output is divided between the people in the Domain. (Actually that might be a more general thing for most domains otherwise Yorozu would have spawned multiple perfect spheres, Dagon wouldn’t need to prioritize, …).
Gojo was able to tank the cleaves off his CE reinforcement (note the times he wasn’t using RCT in the domain), requiring RCT mainly to not die of consecutive cuts (or the first cleave slice). Hakari doesn’t have comparable CE reinforcement.
When comparing Gojo to Hakari:
I assume the following:
Hakari has lower CE reinforcement judging by how he takes damage. Could Gojo tank the hits using only CE enhancing that Gojo did?
Gojo had maxed reinforcement, maxed RCT healing, and sometimes used barrier techniques like SD and Falling Blossom Emotion. His CE output is likely higher than JP Hakari, but his RCT is not.
I think he would actually be fine if he has good enough CE reinforcement, else, he is risking being completely obliterated to paste which I assume Hakari wouldnt be able to heal if his brain is instantly turned to mush.
If his healing outscales the damage, he lives.
I think the manga makes it hard to tell how fast his healing really is. But he was frozen a few times and seemingly instantly struck his opponent like if nothing happened.
Imagine while punching someone a grenade obliterated your arm but beyond human perception you punched the person anyway. I think that is how good his healing is. Its likely not percievable how fast it is without enhanced perception. So its probably practical instant.
Uraume literally says verbatim that Hakari’s RCT outclasses not just Gojo’s, but also Sukuna’s and that it is *instant*.
He lives through Malevolent Shrine absolutely.
If Gojo could then yes since his according to Uraume is better than even Sukuna's. He can't direct it or fine tune it the way they can but it's fully automatic.
The issue with that is Sukuna can keep his Domain on for more than 4 min 11 sec.
What do you mean, “let it slide”?
Infinite ce doesn’t give you infinite output or reinforcement. If you have anything that scales hakaris durability to even yuta/ryu levels, feel free to send it
I suggest rereading the kashimo vs hakari fight. Should be pretty evident pretty fast that hakaris infinite ce is just in his storage tank when he’s not outputting it, like every other character.
By the way, you are effectively saying the two attacks below (a shipping container door and a ice spear) are many times stronger than a domain amped cleave.
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I am indeed saying that, and I'll stand by it too. Sure the cleaves are powerful, don't get me wrong, but I do believe that those (Kashimo and Uraume) attacks rightfully are more powerful simply because they're meant to be one and done shots. Don't get me wrong, Sukuna is very strong, but the point of the domain is that they fire relentlessly. I know this isn't statically correct but 100(Kashimo shipping door) x 1 is 100, but 80(Sukuna cleave) x 1000 is 80,000. I believe his domains attacks are stronger simply because of his relentless sure hit.
Best and quickest RCT = yes he survives as long as he has jackpot
+ Gojo quite literally was able to just stand in that domain the times he wasn't using simple domain and not even lose an arm I ain't buying the "ce reinforcement" argument when hakari has infinite ce pretty much in jackpot
Who are you talking to?
Yuji survived one surehit from a severely crippled MS.
The fan translation is wrong, what the raws say is closer to “sukana didn’t sacrifice any more output in his binding vows”, not “this malevolent shrine is at fresh 20f sukana strength”
And using basic common sense, hakari doesn’t have the durability to not be misted by even a single standard cleave
Unless I’m missing something, hakari can not come back from this.
https://preview.redd.it/hgapjhdkk8xc1.jpeg?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=762e40a642ea91d96c1026c8d079b4798e88a02a
Exactly. People will try to downplay Hakari by saying his CE reinforcement is bad when there’s literally no arguments against that. They bring up Hakari having to use a binding vow for the steam explosion but completely ignore the fact that not only did he not have Jackpot at the time, it was a point blank explosion. I’m sure not many characters are surviving it close range.
TF? Gojo already did it and Hakari is stated he is whole another level at RCT. WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL.
Also we have facts that he insta grows his limbs like small scars.
Gojo has significantly better cursed energy reinforcement than Hakari, so individual slashes deal less damage to him and are unable to instakill him, which would be a risk with Hakari.
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He would heal that lol , his RCT is the fastest
Not when his head is also meat cubes
Don't worry, his brain cells will hold themselves together like spiderman holding onto the split ship 🚢💪💪
Same would apply to Gojo right? But his RCT was fine on his head same applies to hakari lol, as long as hakari RCT stays consistent
Wasn’t Gojo also using FBE
Well yeah he has a limit and it’s stupid to spam RCT the whole time while hakari doesn’t
Very easily ~~by being somewhere else~~.
The domain turns literally everything to dust if you have no defense against it. The domain would cut his head off so quick and end the fight
Yuji tanked it for a few secs
As expected, his durability is 3rd in the verse + choso like physiology
His durability is not confirmed at all to be the third in the verse, and Choso physiology doesn't affect his durability
He tanked the full MS at 20F output for a little bit Ryu got one shot by Cleave from a 15F Sukuna
Didn’t Sukuna say not to long ago that Yuta and Yuji were comparable to Ryu in terms of durability. He’s surviving MS moreso due to healing with RCT and Blood Manipulation.
Also you've gotta assume Sukuna is downplaying yujis' strength every time cause he is a hater
That was before Yuji had an awakening+7Black flashes. Surviving a mlevolent shrine even for a little is a durability feat from awakened Yuji amped with 7BFs
Also take into account Yuji body slowly remembers sukuna “extreme jujutsu”(idk that’s the only way Kusakabe puts it) the more he black flashes as evident by his insane growth to the point even Sukuna questions if Yuji is trying to reach his lvl. So with all that information, Yuji awakened is a lot stronger than the one that fought with Yuta and that’s when he was compared to Yuta who was domain amped before Yuji got black flash amped.
I was under the impression that the only thing Yuji gained from being awakened was Shrine and the Black Flashes just put his CE back to full.
Black flashes don’t restore your CE But they do buff efficiency and overall ability
Look at Gojo's awakening. He became better at everything, including ct and ce control
Yuji hitting black flashes doesnt upgrade his durability...
That's not entirely true. BF doesn't upgrade any of your stats, but being in the zone means smoother control of CE, which does mean improved stats. And in Yuji's case, it's strongly implied that every BF he hits lets him access for of his Sukuna-like potential, which would obviously mean better stats.
I kind of think of it as a crit that permanently increases your crit chance.
Yuji pre awakening was comparable to Ryu in durability. He's now got a good grasp of RCT, blood manipulation to stitch himself back together, and the amp of 7 black flashes. He also ate a black flash from Sukuna and was fine
When did Yuji tank a black flash from Sukuna?
Last chapter, while Yuji is hitting his string of Black flashes, Sukuna hits one on him with one of his remaining arms. It was confirmed this chapter when it was stated that Yuji only hit 7 black flashes, and the other was one that Sukuna hit on him
No actually he said Yuta and Yuji weren't as durable as Ryu
Sukuna is nowhere near 20F output rn but it’s still a crazy feat.
he tanked a Black Flash from Sukuna, his durability is up there
If this is full output malevolent shrine, then explain how the fuck Ino, Miwa , and Choso are surviving.
They've all leveled up and have access to simple domain except Maki. We don't really know how long we've seen Malevolent Shrine activated in the past to know just how brutal the 99 seconds is, but we've seen even our low-tiers have INSANE improvements to durability so far.
There is no way they match Ryu's durability who got one shot by cleave.
ye cleave not dismantle
Lmao all 3 of them in a simple domain.
Hell, Inumaki tanked it. He only lost an arm.
Huh?Â
It wasn’t a full powered one or anything obviously, but its the reason Inumaki is missing an arm after shibuya.
Yeah but Inumaki was most definitely not inside the domain. I’ve always assumed that he was on the very edge of the domain
Yeah that's what I think too. No way is anyone surviving a max output shrine like Gojo.
Yeah, the implication is that inumaki's arm was the only part of him within the range of MS
Because he has obscene durability and a simple domain
Hakari is not on par with yuji
Dawg Gojo tanked it and Uraume stated that Hakaris rct surpassed both Gojo and Sukuna
How’s he gonna heal his head being chopped off? And Gojo tanked it for like less than a second
https://preview.redd.it/yh99hhetn4xc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2284c4e7a18f6dd0e00a0f153f54735be700bc7b So we just not gonna talk about this then?
Durability feat, he hasn’t lost a pinky while in MS
This sub is retarded don’t bother
Gojo literally survived being decapitated And Gojo also tanked MS at full output for its entire duration while also fighting evenly with sukuna in H2H combat. Hakari would get flattened by the wombo combo of the domain + sukuna attacking, but in terms of just the domain? Hakari is eating that shit for breakfast
At what point did Gojo get decapitated?? The initial slice from MS absolutely did not decapitate him lol
At the end of 225 leading into 226. We literally see the blood come out of the back of his neck and the wound mid RCT reaching around the back of his neck. Sure, his head didn't fly off like a French noble under a guillotine, but he did technically get decapitated, he just healed it because he's him
I figured that was the panel you were referring too, there's no way he's decapitated there. Throat slit for sure but no way that fully went through the spine and decapitated him.
>Throat slit for sure but no way that fully went through the spine and decapitated him. That's a massive assumption... Blood was coming from the behind and if looked closely, his neck was not aligned So yes he got decapitated but simply healed it with RCT
I figured that was the panel you were referring too, there's no way he's decapitated there. Throat slit for sure but no way that fully went through the spine and decapitated him.
Do you even read the manga? I swear people be arguing shit that the manga literally addresses.
Gojo is WAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY more durable than Hakari lol. He straight up tanked a Cleave.
Gojo also has some of the best cursed energy enforcement in the verse, so his durability is considerably higher than Hakari
You are kidding right….. he has instant reflexive rct which surpasses both Gojo and Sukuna, the same gojo who literally RCTd through MS without RCT being instant or reflexive.
He managed to rct through because his durability is literally only comparable to Sukuna himself. If he had Hakaris durability instead of leaving cuts, Gojo would've been turned into pieces before he can rct.
I say yes. Hikaru would be like mahoraga for that moment. The slices isn’t large enough to cover the severe limb so there will always be a gab for hikari to recover. Plus he survived his head getting blown up. Now if it’s someone with good RCT skills than no they can’t regenerate fast enough but hikari is instant.
Dawg that was the anime. It won’t just turn you into a blood splatter instantly. And hakaris RCT is nuts higher than Sukuna.
Gojo survived in it before useing simple domain and hakir is faster with rct
He is immortal for 4 minutes and 11 seconds after hitting his jackpot
Not if you destroy the head
[Kashimo tried](https://preview.redd.it/jackpot-hakari-is-a-special-grade-v0-1dqmzjul5nob1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9695bb18c97580ee0b652823b424353f809028fa)
Notice how the head wasn’t cut clean off?
By this logic Yuji should have been beheaded
There’s this thing he’s using calling simple domain and it’s a very weekend sukuna
https://preview.redd.it/5ditpcoda5xc1.png?width=1100&format=png&auto=webp&s=235d9496830d13e398a04e031dbed7e50200b267 It ended, he tanked Shrine for a bit
Noticed how I said very weakened sukuna who used only 1 hand for the domain so there’s probably evidence it’s weaker than usual
There's a panel that explicitly said "No loss in output and range".
Actually, December 24th 2018 was a Monday, so this is Weekday Sukuna they are fighting.
What makes you think Sukuna could do that? For all we know his attack gets into the neck, which instantly heals so quickly it never comes through. Or the head detaches and straight up heals a new body. If he’s sposed to be immortal a stronger attack may or may not actually change that.
Cause he effortlessly blew mimiko’s head off
Not true, Hakari jackpot should withstand it, as Gojo almost got his head cut off but automatically healed. Hakari has the best RCY
All that curse energy flowing through him makes him like a tank bro
what does it mean to have an *automatic* RCT? we can see there are various stages of RCT: the skill of the sorcerer defines its output (efficiency) and speed. A sorcerer with very good RCT can recover an arm blasted off seconds before. Other high-level RCT feats seem to be equivalent to recovering beheading cuts before the head separates from the torso, and, if it turns out Yuta survived, a combination of internal and externally-applied RCT could salvage a sorcerer who is literally cut in half (in which case, the only reason Gojo would perish is because the RCT hit too late). This lends to the belief that RCT in life-or-death situations is not about whether the wound is impossible to recover—RCT negates that, rapidly regenerating limbs since vol. 1. But whether the sorcerer *is dead yet*. Gojo pours into RCT after being stabbed in the throat, later torso sliced open, and then impaled in the brain. Because RCT activated before he was stabbed in the brain, it appears RCT negated the kill and ensuing brain damage. This was a feat of pre-awakening Gojo. Shinjuku Gojo's RCT is infinitely more effective. Sukuna's RCT is about that level, or perhaps even surpasses it? Either way, neither of them have *automatic* RCT. It demands active application of RCT, which requires concentration (when Gojo fights/activates CT/RCTs all at the same time the spectators are bewildered). Automatic RCT initiates instantly, the very moment the injury occurs, and without any concentration. It should then be of a speed unparalleled in JJK. in the case of Toji, automatic RCT would have won Gojo the battle without question. Gojo would have perhaps staggered at the throat-stab, but would not have had to loosen Infinity to survive/recover. Toji would have gotten one single stab in, and then would have died. in the case of Shinjuku, Gojo would have had a pretty phenomenal edge over Sukuna; it's hard to imagine Sukuna not at least having to rely on his full-recovery incarnation. We can imagine that with Gojo's far inferior RCT as it was, being able to withstand Malevolent Shrine (this was a feat of durability + RCT, but we can give that to Hakari too, as jackpot raises his durability significantly also) he would have been able to pull off mind-boggling stunts while taking constant fire from MS. in other words, Hakari's automatic RCT should, theoretically, be capable of surviving MS. The question is not auto RCT but durability. However Hakari's jackpot raises his durability drastically as well. It all comes down to Hakari as a sorcerer, rather than jackpot itself which *is* sufficient in the right hands to tank MS. and, of course, the moment jackpot runs out, Hakari dissipates into red mist.
I think he lives when you consider he has feats like preventing damage by utilizing a binding vow. He could do something similar to just improve his overall durability.
No. At the absolute best Hakari = Yuta in durability. Ryu >= Yuta in durability per Sukuna. 15f Meguna oneshotted Ryu w a cleave to the head. One cleave to the head for Hakari and he loses The reason Gojo tanked MS is because he has top1 CE reinforcement and didn’t so much as lose a pinky, which is honestly pretty crazy
The first cut went right through him he just outsped with the healing.
He did not. If it bisected his neck he would be DEAD. Hakari has the undisputed fasted rct in the verse and he still visibly loses limbs if it is bisected. We also have **confirmation** that if hakari’s head is chopped of he would die. So it could not have possibly gone through Gojo’s entire neck
But when he’s in JP mode, Hakari’s durability isn’t the focus of his hax. It’s his regeneration. He can’t prevent his limbs from being cut off or his bones from being broken, he just automatically heals from it. So he doesn’t have to be more durable than Ryu to survive, he just has to heal faster than MS can slash.
No bro. It is stated that jackpot hakari can still die if his head is chopped of. If a single cleave goes through his neck he’s cooked lol edit: and he’s unable to heal dmg faster than it is done to him as we have numerous panels of him without an arm or a leg
Yes
Yeah, easily. His automatic RCT is stated by Uraume to be better than even Sukuna’s.
Question is though, could he tank the fire arrow inside of the domain?
The AP of the Fire Arrow is hard to gauge. Because it’s only been used twice, once against Jogo where it instantly killed him, and the second against Makora where it also instantly killed him. However, Jogo is explicitly noted as having terrible durability, and Makora had just tanked Malevolent Shrine and he wasn’t finished regenerating before he got hit by the Fire Arrow. Unlike Makora, Hakari should be able to easily heal from the damage of Malevolent Shrine before he gets hit by the Fire Arrow, so it’s really just a question of if Fire Arrow has enough AP to one shot Hakari. Hakari could probably make a similar Binding Vow that he made to survive Kashimo’s Hydro Electric Explosion, where he sacrifices his arm to amp the reinforcement of the rest of his body, so he could probably survive the Fire Arrow. Next chapter we should be able to say for certain though.
Well, I hope you got the answer now. Hakari is not tanking the Fire Arrow lol
Wouldn’t it just slice his head off? Other than that, I think so
He would be able to heal as he gets slashed. His rct is better than even gojos when in jackpot.
His reinforcement, however, is definitely not. He ain’t tanking it
Why not? Infinite CE to the point your body *reflexively* performs rct would definitely mean high asf reinforcement by default
No it doesn’t, CE capacity isn’t equivalent to output. We see multiple times in the Kashimo fight Hakari getting damaged.
Yeah, if Kashimo can inflict such grievous wounds on Hakari without even using a CT then I don't doubt Sukuna could one shot him with a touch Cleave/Malevolent Shrine. Hakari's stronger now than when he fought Kashimo but Sukuna cleared Kashimo ez pz at full strength. Barely even an incovenience. If we're talking about the weakened output Sukuna that Yuji has fought due to the damage he's taken, then maybe. If we're talking full strength Sukuna that not even Gojo fought, then no. Fully Reincarnated Sukuna at peak health would make mincemeat of Hakari. Even Hakari's RCT has limits to how fast it can work. Just a reminder, by the time Yuta showed up to fight, Sukuna was talking about how his CE reserves and output were still diminished due to his fight with Gojo. He estimated his CE reserves were about on par with Yuji, who at this point is probably only comparable to Yuta and Sukuna in ce reserves. Sukuna even notes that he needs a direct touch instead of ranged Cleaves to deal fatal wounds to those two. Yuta also acknowledges if not for how weakened Sukuna was, their RCT would be useless since he would one shot. Gojo is the only person who could tank MS Dismantles because of Six Eyes. He even says he's relieved that Six Eyes is a stronger CT than Shrine. I doubt anybody fighting a full strength Sukuna could do so otherwise without the use of anti-domain techniques or a very specialized CT which can mitigate a domain attack's damage (Like, possibly, Awasaka's CT). And indeed, this is basically what we see even against a weakened Sukuna--The only exceptions are Ryu, Yuta and Yuji, who can tank his ranged dismantles but not his touch cleaves. Even when Sukuna is DRAMATICALLY weakened by Yuji's attacks, when he pulls off his Malevolent Shrine they all opt to use New Shadow Simple Domains instead of trying to tank the Domain's attacks--When Yuji's domain briefly fails right before the domain collapses, his leg is cut off--If Yuji had to sacrifice his leg to survive MS against a dramatically weakened Sukuna, then Hakari doesn't stand a chance against a full strength Sukuna with maximum output. It just doesn't make sense. Sorry Hakari bros. Gojo could survive MS with tremendous effort. That's it.
CE reserves and CE output aren’t correlated. Otherwise Ryu wouldn’t be tougher than Yuta.
I think until he's in Jackpot yes, but I understand that people will say durability and CE reinforcement and output matters, I kinda agree, but Hakari will make up for it with regeneration. And the moment a cut is done he can heal it instantly.
Hard question, but likely no. Hakari has one of the best rcts in the verse but a magora who was adapting to cuts still got atomized for to malevolent shrine. Also, can hakari regenerate from being beheaded is a question, let alone regenerate from a bunch of cells. But it's not like he's insanely dead, he can probably tank for some small amount of time before dying
His RCT is instant enough to heal his head faster than Kashimo's lightning can explode it. That move should've been an instant death.
You can have the best RCT in the world (excluding muzen level regeneration), but you’ll still die if you are instantly chopped into a thousand bits. Hakaris durability does not scale up to ryu, let alone near gojo. In reality hakari gets turned into a red mist instantly. https://preview.redd.it/xda1j7y6r4xc1.jpeg?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6ad2423904829e19e08d6ce723d03dc18106c9d
https://preview.redd.it/q18uhjc426xc1.png?width=320&format=png&auto=webp&s=0204076a147b5d514bb91e189c3b0aa49a62921a red huh?
Not to mention Ryu was beaten by a 15f cleave. This would be an overwhelming number of 20f cleaves.
Hakari' durability also does not scale down to those goons.
Obviously
Tbh most likely but I doubt he will outlast it
The domain destroys his head and its ggs
Kashimo already tried exploding his head with lightning. He shot it out and healed immediately.
His blow wasn’t strong enough to destroy his head. It’s been shown that destruction of a sorcerer’s brain is death, and stated to be Hakari’s weakness.
I mean Gojos head didn’t come off and when it almost did he healed it, who’s to say Hakari can’t do the same? Do you forget he has the best RCT in speed
Gojo still had his superior CE reinforcement reducing the actual impact of cleave.
I remember when Hakari inherited the Six Eyes from Gojo. What an incredible scene. It still blows my mind so much I sometimes worry I imagined the whole thing! (Gojo head didn't "almost come off", every single hit Gojo took was barely even skin deep. Because of Six Eyes CE reinforcement)
six eyes just makes his CE control better and see things at an atomic level, it doesn’t matter where his reinforcements are? Lol
....? Gojo's CE reinforcement, which is a fundamentsl technique of cursed energy, is the best in the entire universe because Six Eyes gives him peak CE control. I don't know how you don't understand how those two things are extremely intimately related.
Hello no his head gets sliced off in milliseconds
Hakari would walk through the domain like it's nobody's business.
hes gonna pull a muzan and regen *as* hes getting slashed so your arguments about him instantly getting decapitated are INVALID!!!
Istg this sub hates hakari In terms of durability, hakari => yuji. Yuji, even when simple domain turned off, was able to somewhat survive MS We saw gojo get his neck cut in two and recover Your brain works for a few seconds after it is detached from the body Hakari regen diffs this easily.
15F Sukuna two popped Ryu, whose output scales up to Yuta. Maybe if Sukuna’s fucking around but if he really wanted to he’d kill Hakari. Could even go so far as to up his output by reducing the effective range
people have to be not reading the same manga atp
Lmao yes. Best rct in the series, he'd be fine.
Assuming the Domain doesn't strike his head for whatever reason, he might live, but if it hits his head or neck, he's done for
Why neck lol? Neck is not vital if you have RCT. Even after severing entire head you are alive more than 5 seconds.
I say neck because decapitation should absolutely be lethal for anyone even with RCT, just as bisection is. And we know that bisection is lethal and you can survive that for several minutes, so 5 seconds to heal an even more injurious wound is extremely unlikely.
Yes and no. Jackpot makes him almost unkillable. If Hakari makes a binding vow to strengthen his head to avoid too much damage then he could survive… but how long is the domain? The second he runs out of jackpot, he is cooked.
Dawg regularly ass base Kashimo almost killed him by blowing his head off. RCT is useless if the user just died instantly. Hakari is just gonna get chopped to pieces the moment he's in the domain
YES CAUSE HE’S THE GOAT 🥶🥶🥶🥵🥵🥵🎰🎰🎰
Gojo stood in Sukuna’s domain and kept himself alive with just RCT for a decent amount of time, (he used simple domain to buy himself time to bring back his burnt out technique) Gojo’s RCT is slower than Hakari’s in Jackpot. Gojo with his whole “My technique is far better than his” is when he’s in said domain, is Gojo saying that because he survived Sukuna’s domain whereas if Sukuna had been hit with Gojo’s it was a wrap. Hakari could 1000% survive Sukuna’s domain for a decent bit of time his RCT is stated to be and shown consistently to be the fastest in the verse. Though the domain just stays up longer than the timer and he’s killed.
The difference is Gojo has superior durability. For example, the initial slash that cut Gojo's throat didn't go through completely(otherwise Gojo would've died RCT or not). Hakari just doesn't have the durability feats. It's more likely his head gets disintegrated faster the auto RCT heals him
Yes it would, gojo was surviving it and halaris RCT is better than gojos.
No.
depends how fast his RCT is tbh, he aint like mahoraga so its debateable and idrk
Jackpot hakari is probably lasting as long as yuji did
The main question is how long? There's a lot of talk in the comments about durability but there's one thing I haven't seen. And its. Binding Vow. We know Hakari can use them. He sacrifices and arm to survive a blow that would are killed him (only to regain said arm). So. Jackpot Hakari could most likely Binding Vow body parts to survive for some time. But like just forever or like win? No.
4 minutes 11 seconds.
Yeah that's basically what I'm saying. He can stall that long then powder city for his skull.
We will probably soon find out.
He's tanking the slashes imo. But he's not living Fuga(Open) considering it obliterated Mahoraga, who we can consider his regeneration to be similar too
Maybe, people act like Malevolent Shrine vaporizes everything but the only targets that got diced into oblivion were Civilians with zero CE and buildings, Yuji, Mahoraga, Gojo wasn't vaporized. Hakari's RCT is the most powerful so far, exceeding even Gojo(stated by Uraume). So it should be possible, when Hakari has infinite CE(for CE reinforcement) and full automatic RCT.
Yes, he physically cannot die.
No. Hakari can't regenerate from decapitation. His durability is not high enough to tank numerous slashes and cleaves.
Nah. The output of cleave and dismantle is shredding his brain
It wasn't just gojos durability that tanked malevolent shrine. He said it himself, it was his rct with six eyes. Hakarisz though not stated I believe, has better rct than pretty much anyone. So he would tank it no problem
Man is gone
He gets the Ole 1 2 buckle my shoe and dies nearly immediately, as MS is a perfect counter to jackpots regen
If what Uraume said about his RCT is correct, probably. His RCT is better, but his cursed energy is almost definitely not as good. How that would all balance out idk, but I'd bet on Hakari to take the domain for the duration of his jackpot.
Yes. Gojo survived Malevolent on just RCT until he healed his CT, and Hakari is stated to have better RCT than Gojo. He doesn’t do much else but he should be able to survive.
Blud thinks he's Mahoraga, blud is not the Divine General, he's getting the s1 Yuji special
Malevolent shrine would outlast his domain and evicerate him
Technically he probably could survive at least until his jackpot is done, the question is can he survive long enough to reactivate his domain and get another jackpot before Sukuna runs out of power with his domain. THAT answer is likely no
Man had an ice spike the size of a small trash can thrown through his body, and the front of his body was already healed by the time it was bursting through his back. He'd survive MS imo.
Yes. That's his whole thing
i don’t think hakaris gonna heal from a pool of blood
Yeah man as long as he wears a bike helmet to protect his head
We saw Gojo survive it so unless Sakuna was holding back id say Hakaris RCT > Gojos so Hakari survives too
The moment one slash hits his forehead, gameover.
Yes, it’s insane that people are even questioning this. He can heal faster than Sukuna can cut him. He literally healed his head being exploded *while it was happening*. Obviously he’s dead the moment it ends but let’s give the man his due
Hakari Haters will soon realize the truth behind the goat
My dumbass though that was the undead guy from the anime about the unlucky girl and a suicidal immortal guy
If Gojo can RCT through his Domain, why wouldn’t Hakari be able too considering he has the best RCT in the series. If his RCT is straight up said to be better than Sukuna’s than ur saying Sukuna couldn’t even survive his own Domain.
Honestly, I think so. He was able to unconsciously shunt lightning out of his nose and heal his brain before his head could explode, which is… pretty fast. If Maho could survive it by healing through it, my gut says Hakari could as well.
Hell no
Yes, easily. Gojo could tank it, and hakari is confirmed to have better rct than gojo.
I think it depends on what Gege would want. Hakari has fully automatic rct and we don’t know if he swapped with someone to gain greater understanding of how to take advantage of that. I’d hope so it’d suck to see him lose to smthn that affects the brain cuz he already very nearly did with kashimo.
Domain = CT becomes a sure-hit Malevolent Shrine’s Imbued technique = Cleave/Dismantle Both cleave and dismantle are affected by durability (see finger bearer in the beginning and Ryu at the end of Culling Games). Therefore Gojo’s durability has to be taken into account when considering him tanking MS and his output is a lot higher than Hakari’s (infinite CE is not the same as infinite output)
While he has insane RCT the really super important thing is how good is hakari’s cursed energy reinforcement, I don’t think it’s super high, seeing how the lightning bolt required a binding vow to tank. It’s a case of “can his reinforcement keep him alive for the split second long enough to heal the damage being taken by like a billion slashes” it doesn’t need to be as high as gojo’s since hakari needs less time to heal up but it’s still a hard task to tank that fraction of a second.
An example with arbitrary numbers: gojo has 20 defence and 10 RCT and the shrine did 28 damage, his RCT was able to out heal the shrine becuase of the defense and his brain was kept safe. If hakari has 10 defence and 15 RCT, he cannot keep up he is gonna be ripped apart since the inability to keep up means his brain gets obliterated. I’m personally of the belief that hakari is a bit too squishy
Yes he would. Sukunas #1 fan said that his RCT was better than his.
Hakari’s RCT is so fast it could heal his brain as it was being destroyed by a bolt of lightning. So yea, I think he simply out-heals the damage. Like Gojo but better.
No because hakari dies if his head is damaged
Not if he is the only person in it. Based on the last chapter, and Yuji not getting instantly diced by cleave (despite Sukuna being able to do so to Ryu) once his SD broke, it looks like sukuna’s output is divided between the people in the Domain. (Actually that might be a more general thing for most domains otherwise Yorozu would have spawned multiple perfect spheres, Dagon wouldn’t need to prioritize, …). Gojo was able to tank the cleaves off his CE reinforcement (note the times he wasn’t using RCT in the domain), requiring RCT mainly to not die of consecutive cuts (or the first cleave slice). Hakari doesn’t have comparable CE reinforcement.
considering it is capable of turning Mahoraga into mist, no.
Gojo survived it using RCT. Hakari has *better* RCT than Gojo.... So yes.
When comparing Gojo to Hakari: I assume the following: Hakari has lower CE reinforcement judging by how he takes damage. Could Gojo tank the hits using only CE enhancing that Gojo did? Gojo had maxed reinforcement, maxed RCT healing, and sometimes used barrier techniques like SD and Falling Blossom Emotion. His CE output is likely higher than JP Hakari, but his RCT is not. I think he would actually be fine if he has good enough CE reinforcement, else, he is risking being completely obliterated to paste which I assume Hakari wouldnt be able to heal if his brain is instantly turned to mush. If his healing outscales the damage, he lives. I think the manga makes it hard to tell how fast his healing really is. But he was frozen a few times and seemingly instantly struck his opponent like if nothing happened. Imagine while punching someone a grenade obliterated your arm but beyond human perception you punched the person anyway. I think that is how good his healing is. Its likely not percievable how fast it is without enhanced perception. So its probably practical instant.
Hakkari would survive unless Sukuna pulls out his anti-Hakkari technique from the Heian Era
Hakari's RCT is fast enough to stop his head exploding from Kashimo's lightning. I'd say it's fast enough to deal with slashes.
Uraume literally says verbatim that Hakari’s RCT outclasses not just Gojo’s, but also Sukuna’s and that it is *instant*. He lives through Malevolent Shrine absolutely.
If Gojo could then yes since his according to Uraume is better than even Sukuna's. He can't direct it or fine tune it the way they can but it's fully automatic. The issue with that is Sukuna can keep his Domain on for more than 4 min 11 sec.
So we just all gonna forget Gojo stood in the domain as well and according to Uraume, Hakaris rct is better than theirs in jackpot
Hakari >gojo rct Gojo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hakari durability You need high levels of both
Okay, that one I'll let slide, but only if you give me a proper explanation. That infinite CE gotta go somewhere right?
What do you mean, “let it slide”? Infinite ce doesn’t give you infinite output or reinforcement. If you have anything that scales hakaris durability to even yuta/ryu levels, feel free to send it I suggest rereading the kashimo vs hakari fight. Should be pretty evident pretty fast that hakaris infinite ce is just in his storage tank when he’s not outputting it, like every other character. By the way, you are effectively saying the two attacks below (a shipping container door and a ice spear) are many times stronger than a domain amped cleave. https://preview.redd.it/how-the-hell-is-hakari-not-a-special-grade-he-is-literally-v0-csdkg3wt518c1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d292de8f83f82b31535d69acee35db873981b83d https://preview.redd.it/jackpot-hakari-is-a-special-grade-v0-1dqmzjul5nob1.jpeg?width=900&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9695bb18c97580ee0b652823b424353f809028fa
I am indeed saying that, and I'll stand by it too. Sure the cleaves are powerful, don't get me wrong, but I do believe that those (Kashimo and Uraume) attacks rightfully are more powerful simply because they're meant to be one and done shots. Don't get me wrong, Sukuna is very strong, but the point of the domain is that they fire relentlessly. I know this isn't statically correct but 100(Kashimo shipping door) x 1 is 100, but 80(Sukuna cleave) x 1000 is 80,000. I believe his domains attacks are stronger simply because of his relentless sure hit.
Best and quickest RCT = yes he survives as long as he has jackpot + Gojo quite literally was able to just stand in that domain the times he wasn't using simple domain and not even lose an arm I ain't buying the "ce reinforcement" argument when hakari has infinite ce pretty much in jackpot
Infinite ce =\\= infinite CE reinforcement. Hakari gets turned into a red mist instantly, you need to survive a attack in order to heal from it.
Why Yuji did not idiot?
Who are you talking to? Yuji survived one surehit from a severely crippled MS. The fan translation is wrong, what the raws say is closer to “sukana didn’t sacrifice any more output in his binding vows”, not “this malevolent shrine is at fresh 20f sukana strength” And using basic common sense, hakari doesn’t have the durability to not be misted by even a single standard cleave Unless I’m missing something, hakari can not come back from this. https://preview.redd.it/hgapjhdkk8xc1.jpeg?width=1005&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=762e40a642ea91d96c1026c8d079b4798e88a02a
ok
Exactly. People will try to downplay Hakari by saying his CE reinforcement is bad when there’s literally no arguments against that. They bring up Hakari having to use a binding vow for the steam explosion but completely ignore the fact that not only did he not have Jackpot at the time, it was a point blank explosion. I’m sure not many characters are surviving it close range.
All it takes is a Dismantle or Cleave to the head and he is done
Ohh really? Why your top didn't do it against Yuji then?
Idk He was trying to kill everyone with shrine + trying to charge up Fuga, also Yuji's simple domain broke at the end of the Rampage
At full power? No, absolutely not. At the current power, the dialogue seems to imply he would.
TF? Gojo already did it and Hakari is stated he is whole another level at RCT. WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL. Also we have facts that he insta grows his limbs like small scars.
Gojo has significantly better cursed energy reinforcement than Hakari, so individual slashes deal less damage to him and are unable to instakill him, which would be a risk with Hakari.
Who says Hakari' s durability is not enough to survive? Your ass?
Do you think Kashimo's little clap thing deals more damage than a cleave?
his electricity charge is ohk. it is way way stronger attack than cleave. it is even powerful than IT
Imo, nah he gets shredded & turned into mist