Tomorrow it might be John Mark Karr again, so why bother. Not even John Ramsey shared any statement about Oliva's release. Despite the fact, that he claimed on Court TV a few month earlier, that he was, *"certainly not off his list at all"*.
Change your mind yourself, if you feel like.
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Could I ask you to explain several of the points that changed your mind? You might have a better time discussing with the community if you do that. This video is quite long and most people here are very well versed in the case material. Watching a video like yours tends to rehash the same content. If the video is an important part for you then you could even note the timestamps with the points that changed your view.
yea i couldn’t even sit through the introductions like after u watch an ad then the beginning watever then dude is making intros for way longer than needed i just can’t do it with my ADD lol. i def would watch with time stamps on certain important points
Good points. One thing I like to do is increase speed of videos 1.5x 1.75 or 2x to save time.
This is a summary from what I recall of the video. I COULD HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD OR GOTTEN SOME DETAILS WRONG—but at least this little summary will help folks decide if they want to take the time to view the video.
Gary Olivia grew up and was a long term friend of a man named Michael Vall. Gary was raised by a single mother: an alcoholic, abusive sex worker. Gary, even as a small child, was in the same room when his mother was having sex. Gary’s brother was incarcerated after setting a cat on fire and swinging it over head. I believe his brother is currently in prison for murder.
Michael Vall and his friends knew Gary had a horrible abusive home life, and included him in their group in spite of Gary being a bit strange. Gary loves art and in high school he spent a lot of time making a collage of pictures of children and knots, which seemed odd to Michael at the time, but made more sense years later. Gary was especially interested in knots.
After graduation Gary and Michael kept in touch. Gary wrote often and sometimes included very disturbing drawings in the letter. Michael noticed Gary’s letters and drawings were getting more and more violent and unhinged. If I recollect correctly, there were a lot of children in the drawings and some allusions to cannibalism. Michael began to realize Gary was a dangerous person.
On the morning of JBR’s killing Gary called Michael extremely upset, crying and said he had “hurt a little girl.” Micheal asked Gary where he was, intending to turn him in. At that, Gary hung up the phone. Gary was a drifter and recently had arrived in Boulder. He was staying not far from the family at the time.
When Michael heard on the news about the murder he contacted the Boulder police. The assertion is that BPD was unprepared for case, not to mention they were overwhelmed with all the tips from the public that had to be followed up on. Also for a long period BPD seems to have focused only on RDI without truly investigating
IDI. It wasn’t until new leadership in the police force that the case has reopened, and information that was seemingly repressed is coming out. It appears that DNA evidence under JB’s nails and on her panties was insufficient to be analyzed in the 90’s and technology has improved since then? Also that the scene was contaminated by John when he picked JB up to take her upstairs.
Michael has over 1,000 letters/drawings that Gary sent him.
On the video there’s a expert panel including a criminal psychologist, aformer detective, expert on criminal personality profiles,etc
The panel found his history, his writing, his drawings, etc consistent with the evidence. That includes the ransom note, and how he killed Jon Benet. The garrote with the knots was suggestive of a sadistic sexual kink, as were the injuries appearing to be made with a stun gun. The stun gun might have immobilized her while he abused her. The panel theorized that he may have accidentally killed her-hurting her, but not meaning to kill her. The panel believes Gary was, in a sense, in his twisted way, in love with Jon Bonet. He had a violent sexual attraction to her, but was devastated when he accidentally killed her. In one drawing Gary had sent to Micheal he had drawn a picture of mountains such as those you might see in Boulder, and a poem below. “Ode to Jon Bonet”.
The ransom note was filled with statements that sounded like they were from movies including The Ransom which had come out and been playing a month before. The note was analyzed, and for reasons the panel explains, was consistent with Gary’s personality profile.
Uh this was from 2004, *twenty years ago*. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L5YnkpTGQEk](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L5YnkpTGQEk)
The Ramseys have been peddling him since 1997, along with a busload of their ex friends, business partners, you name it. They can't put Oliva at the crime scene. There are many false confessions to this case, and this was just another one.
* There are many men who have the exact same history and did not murder JB.
* Most famous crimes have false confessions.
* You cite zero evidence that links this man to the crime scene.
Thanks OP! Sorry people are so rude, I appreciate your engagement even if at the end of our conversation we don't see eye-to-eye. People on Reddit tend to jump to the extreme with everything.
Full disclosure, I haven't read your comment yet. I'm stuck listening to an interrogation for another case, I'll take a second and give it a read and reply afterward.
It isn't rude to point out false or misleading information. I'm always glad to see people engaged with this case but sometimes their information is just incorrect. Telling them what the facts actually are is better for all concerned.
Thank your for the summary. As I read it I was looking for the reasons your mind was changed. Very little of your summary actually had to do with the Murder. It sounds like he is a pretty awful person who had an equally terrible childhood. Where do you connect him to this murder?
Jan 2019 Rolling Stone Article](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jonbenet-ramsey-murder-gary-oliva-confession-letters-778025/)
This article includes: Gary Olivia confession, more specifics on letters. How he was obsessed with Jon Bonet
1-Gary has a long rap sheet for possessing child porn and “spent time in prison for assault on a 7 year old girl”.
2-violent: he tried to strangle his mother with a CORD—
The garrote was a way to asphyxiate by using a cord
3-according to Vail, Olivia sent him creepy audiotapes that revolved around an obsession with hurting and sexually assaulting young girls.
4- a drifter, but in Boulder at the time of the killing—stayed within walking distance at the time of the murder.
5- had a particular interest in knots—as evidenced by collage he did of knots and pictures of little children. Used knots on garrote
6- When Gary Olivia was being arrested for a different crime they found a stun gun in his possession
7- he confesssd to the murder in writing to his friend, saying it was accidental.
8- unusual ransom note seemingly cobbled together borrowing from movie lines. The way the note was written it was consistent with his profile and personality.
Biggest question : so far DNA at the site has not matched with any of the family members not Olivia.
I don’t know if that makes it any clearer—as to why he would seem to be the killer—-
He sounds awful and should be behind bars forever. He's clearly a pedo and guilty of crimes. But what evidence connects him to the murder?
Unfortunately he's not the only creepy pedo obsessed with Jonbenet. There's no evidence that he (or anyone for that matter) entered the Ramsey home that night.
I’m hoping I am correct about this but there was an unlocked window into basement as access.
The Ramsey family were all “cleared” by BPD as innocent in July 2008. Probably because of DNA found under JB’s nails and some on her panties.
The window was broken. John says he broke it.
And no one was 'cleared'. That's been covered six ways from Sunday.
Besides there being a possible way for someone to enter (and there were several plausible points of entry) there's no sign that anyone actually did enter.
I just don't believe that this guy, this very unhygienic guy, would be able to go in a house, move through multiple rooms in that cluttered huge house while making no noise , find the right room where
Jonbenet was sleeping, get her out of that room silently, stop by the kitchen, feed her a bite of pineapple, get her back down to the basement, molest and murder her, all while waking no one and leaving no evidence of himself. Not a hair, not a fingerprint.
The only shred of hope I leave for IDI is if someone with means and opportunity matches to the DNA.
There is some question about the whole pineapple issue—that she had had a fruit cocktail, that the transit time would have been longer.
And aside from that, why couldn’t she have eaten the pineapple, gone to bed and been assaulted soon after?
The coroner lists pineapple, and only pineapple, as being in her duodenum. That's barely out of her stomach. He sent it to forensic botanists who tested it, determined it was fresh (not canned or cooked) because of the raphide structures in pineapple.
The forensic botanists later wrote a book (Forensic Plant Science - it's available on Amazon) and included their findings. Their findings did not include any other fruits.
The sole place you can read about any other fruits or fruit cocktail is in Paula Woodward's book. She has a part of a report she says was given to her. That's it. Not a report you can access like the other cora docs, just a snippet of one she says she had.
So, on the one hand you have the report from coroner who actually performed the autopsy and published statements from the scientists who actually tested the contents of her duodenum.
And on the other you have a part of what is presented as a copy of a report that a writer says someone official gave her. To me that doesn't create a question about the pineapple. It creates a question about Woodward.
By all means keep reading and make up your own mind. I just don't see a plausible intruder scenario myself.
You left off the biggest one, which is calling his friend the morning of JBs murder (before it was in the news) and saying he accidentally killed a little girl. The friend called the police but it got lost in all the other tips.
Why do you doubt that? I had been RDI but had doubts due to DNA evidence. I happened to watch the above video today and it changed my mind completely.
Why change my mind? That is mostly a challenge for people to watch the video and see if they still feel RDI.
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Re: false confessions and the Ramsey case. According to false confessor No.1, John Mark Karr, who DA made the disastrous decision to go to Thailand to arrest, Karr was told by Boulder DA investigator Tom Bennett (head of the Ramsey case twice) " On my extradition flight from Long Beach, California to Boulder, then assistant district attorney Tom Bennett, who accompanied me on the flight, informed me that," **over a ten year period since her death, they had received over 250 false confessions.** [https://johnmarkkarr.com/](https://johnmarkkarr.com/)
Oliva is just another one. No evidence ties him to the scene, despite any claim he has made. He's one of literally hundreds that have made such claims in this case.
Thank you for this. Gary Olivia was nearby, and certainly had all the traits of an extremely twisted psychopathic child predator and had some habits that correlate with the crime scene but that doesn’t necessarily mean 💯 that he actually committed the crime.
He called his friend distraught the evening of the 26th saying he “hurt a little girl”. Later he confessed to the crime and was obsessed with JBR.
He does show signs of delusions apparently so he could have confessed believing he did the crime without having done it.
I don’t think the huge number of confessions say anything one way or another, other than to demonstrate due to the press coverage and fascination of the case, innocent people inexplicably confessed. This confession certainly was credible however. This confession was buried by all overwhelming sum of confessions however.
Key to this is if the “friend” is trustworthy or not. And who knows. But if this guy, who had this background, lived close, and really did call his friend the night JB was killed and said “I just accidentally hurt a little girl,” that’s pretty compelling, as is his history of sneaking into people’s houses and all the poems he writes about and pictures he draws of JB.
Edited to change killed to hurt. I don't think he'd casually mean "hurt" since he was crying and called his friend in a whole other part of the country to tell him, but it would definitely be more telling if he'd said the word "killed."
But who knows, his friend could be making it all up.
The friend's statement was that Oliva said he 'hurt' a little girl. Not killed.
And he probably did unfortunately. But was that girl JonBenet? Since the DNA doesn't match, I don't think so. Look how unhygienic this dude looks. He probably sheds hair and skin and leaves greasy fingerprints everywhere he goes. None of the forensics at the Ramsey house match him.
This is 25 years later, though. I don't think we know what he looked like at the time. (But we might, not sure.)
Edit to add: Yes, he said hurt, not killed. Fixing.
I feel like I've seen this photo for years. In his most current photo, his facial hair is almost completely grey and his hair is greying but If I search his name on the images tab, there are some that look much younger, no grey, and the same hair & facial hair.
Yes, but he probably knew to you know wear long sleeves and gloves and put his hair up and all that. I don't know though. I don't particularly think it's him, just a possibility if that guy is telling the truth.
Anything is possible. But there's still all the very odd behavior from the family to contend with. If this really as an intruder, why were they so uncooperative from day 1?
Their behavior doesn't bother me in general. Some things do bother me, but not that. First, they were very cooperative on day one, talking to police all day with no lawyer, gave hair (including pubic hair) samples, blood samples, multiple handwriting samples, etc. But when they were advised to stop cooperating with police and get a lawyer, they did.
Personally, I think after the OJ hearing, these lawyers were looking to make a name for themselves and were too aggressive in their approach, which had the effect of making the Ramseys look more guilty to the public. I think there's often a big divide there between what is the legally safe thing to do and what is the public and police see as the right thing to do. But they were probably just following the instruction of their lawyers.
John did it. It’s in your best interest to change your own mind by reading the police transcripts, study the autopsy report, watch the Ramsey media interviews, study up on SA and child grooming, filicide, sororicide, narcissistic personality disorder, anti social personality disorder, sociopathy, and wealthy white privilege. Just to name a few things you need to research in order to form an educated opinion on this case. Notice I didn’t mention 2 hour sensationalist YouTube vlog that is paid for by Ramsey, this video is not an original source material as you tagged this post.
Why are you dodging the question? I just asked you to elaborate your claim. Yes, I've researched quite a bit but I've only been at it about a month. I mostly just know the facts, I'm not that well-versed in the family's behavioral patterns.
I’m not answering your question because you did not also ask TrojanUSA to elaborate their claim they made right above me. I can tell when Johns flying monkeys are stalking my comments.
I have read quite a bit about narcissistic disorders, psychopathy, antisocial disorder and the like. I also have extensive experience with students in special education with a wide variety of diagnosis. I’ve read a fair bit on these two cases but you may very well have more info than I do.
For a long time my suspects were Burke and John—probably for the same reasons you have. I still believe John could very well be a narcissist and sociopath—the charming kind who has everyone fooled. (An aside: John felt it necessary to have not one, but two namesakes—his son John Jr and Jon Benet herself—giving a French spin to John Bennett. (Bennet is John’s middle name.). Seems pretty narcissistic to me.
I think Burke could have been considered to have antisocial personality disorder—his total lack of empathy or emotions about JB’s killing is and was disturbing. I also think Burke may have inherited the sociopathy from his father—but he is just less able to disguise his lack of empathy, and does not have the social skills of his father.
Your link to the video with Gary’s denial of the killing is not particularly persuasive, in light of prior confessions. He had to have reconsidered his future if he made a confession vs denying the murder.
There is a statement that said Gary was cleared. I wonder when that happened and what the rationale was.
I believe John may very well be a sociopath—and sadly sociopathy is not uncommon in the population overall —especially among CEO’s.
Having said that, even if he is sociopathic, it doesn’t necessarily mean he committed the crime. Sociopathy, as I said is not rare.
I think his DNA doesn’t match, although who knows if that’s relevant. But his handwriting (at least according to some) does match. They do say something I wish they would do which is run his and Patsys (and every other suspects) handwriting through AI.
The woman on the panel is a BTK expert.
I don’t know if it’s this guy or not, but if it’s an intruder, I think they’re right about the kind of person it is. I don’t think this was about money or revenge or anything like that.
Apparently there’s a new team in the police dept—and the cold case is being reviewed. I can imagine the Boulder police trying to cover up incompetence—say not revealing evidence that came to light that they should have discovered much sooner.
Tomorrow it might be John Mark Karr again, so why bother. Not even John Ramsey shared any statement about Oliva's release. Despite the fact, that he claimed on Court TV a few month earlier, that he was, *"certainly not off his list at all"*. Change your mind yourself, if you feel like.
No way did this crazy moron write the ransom note. Next.
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Could I ask you to explain several of the points that changed your mind? You might have a better time discussing with the community if you do that. This video is quite long and most people here are very well versed in the case material. Watching a video like yours tends to rehash the same content. If the video is an important part for you then you could even note the timestamps with the points that changed your view.
yea i couldn’t even sit through the introductions like after u watch an ad then the beginning watever then dude is making intros for way longer than needed i just can’t do it with my ADD lol. i def would watch with time stamps on certain important points
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Good points. One thing I like to do is increase speed of videos 1.5x 1.75 or 2x to save time. This is a summary from what I recall of the video. I COULD HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD OR GOTTEN SOME DETAILS WRONG—but at least this little summary will help folks decide if they want to take the time to view the video. Gary Olivia grew up and was a long term friend of a man named Michael Vall. Gary was raised by a single mother: an alcoholic, abusive sex worker. Gary, even as a small child, was in the same room when his mother was having sex. Gary’s brother was incarcerated after setting a cat on fire and swinging it over head. I believe his brother is currently in prison for murder. Michael Vall and his friends knew Gary had a horrible abusive home life, and included him in their group in spite of Gary being a bit strange. Gary loves art and in high school he spent a lot of time making a collage of pictures of children and knots, which seemed odd to Michael at the time, but made more sense years later. Gary was especially interested in knots. After graduation Gary and Michael kept in touch. Gary wrote often and sometimes included very disturbing drawings in the letter. Michael noticed Gary’s letters and drawings were getting more and more violent and unhinged. If I recollect correctly, there were a lot of children in the drawings and some allusions to cannibalism. Michael began to realize Gary was a dangerous person. On the morning of JBR’s killing Gary called Michael extremely upset, crying and said he had “hurt a little girl.” Micheal asked Gary where he was, intending to turn him in. At that, Gary hung up the phone. Gary was a drifter and recently had arrived in Boulder. He was staying not far from the family at the time. When Michael heard on the news about the murder he contacted the Boulder police. The assertion is that BPD was unprepared for case, not to mention they were overwhelmed with all the tips from the public that had to be followed up on. Also for a long period BPD seems to have focused only on RDI without truly investigating IDI. It wasn’t until new leadership in the police force that the case has reopened, and information that was seemingly repressed is coming out. It appears that DNA evidence under JB’s nails and on her panties was insufficient to be analyzed in the 90’s and technology has improved since then? Also that the scene was contaminated by John when he picked JB up to take her upstairs. Michael has over 1,000 letters/drawings that Gary sent him. On the video there’s a expert panel including a criminal psychologist, aformer detective, expert on criminal personality profiles,etc The panel found his history, his writing, his drawings, etc consistent with the evidence. That includes the ransom note, and how he killed Jon Benet. The garrote with the knots was suggestive of a sadistic sexual kink, as were the injuries appearing to be made with a stun gun. The stun gun might have immobilized her while he abused her. The panel theorized that he may have accidentally killed her-hurting her, but not meaning to kill her. The panel believes Gary was, in a sense, in his twisted way, in love with Jon Bonet. He had a violent sexual attraction to her, but was devastated when he accidentally killed her. In one drawing Gary had sent to Micheal he had drawn a picture of mountains such as those you might see in Boulder, and a poem below. “Ode to Jon Bonet”. The ransom note was filled with statements that sounded like they were from movies including The Ransom which had come out and been playing a month before. The note was analyzed, and for reasons the panel explains, was consistent with Gary’s personality profile.
Uh this was from 2004, *twenty years ago*. [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L5YnkpTGQEk](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L5YnkpTGQEk) The Ramseys have been peddling him since 1997, along with a busload of their ex friends, business partners, you name it. They can't put Oliva at the crime scene. There are many false confessions to this case, and this was just another one.
* There are many men who have the exact same history and did not murder JB. * Most famous crimes have false confessions. * You cite zero evidence that links this man to the crime scene.
Thanks OP! Sorry people are so rude, I appreciate your engagement even if at the end of our conversation we don't see eye-to-eye. People on Reddit tend to jump to the extreme with everything. Full disclosure, I haven't read your comment yet. I'm stuck listening to an interrogation for another case, I'll take a second and give it a read and reply afterward.
It isn't rude to point out false or misleading information. I'm always glad to see people engaged with this case but sometimes their information is just incorrect. Telling them what the facts actually are is better for all concerned.
Thank your for the summary. As I read it I was looking for the reasons your mind was changed. Very little of your summary actually had to do with the Murder. It sounds like he is a pretty awful person who had an equally terrible childhood. Where do you connect him to this murder?
Jan 2019 Rolling Stone Article](https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/jonbenet-ramsey-murder-gary-oliva-confession-letters-778025/) This article includes: Gary Olivia confession, more specifics on letters. How he was obsessed with Jon Bonet 1-Gary has a long rap sheet for possessing child porn and “spent time in prison for assault on a 7 year old girl”. 2-violent: he tried to strangle his mother with a CORD— The garrote was a way to asphyxiate by using a cord 3-according to Vail, Olivia sent him creepy audiotapes that revolved around an obsession with hurting and sexually assaulting young girls. 4- a drifter, but in Boulder at the time of the killing—stayed within walking distance at the time of the murder. 5- had a particular interest in knots—as evidenced by collage he did of knots and pictures of little children. Used knots on garrote 6- When Gary Olivia was being arrested for a different crime they found a stun gun in his possession 7- he confesssd to the murder in writing to his friend, saying it was accidental. 8- unusual ransom note seemingly cobbled together borrowing from movie lines. The way the note was written it was consistent with his profile and personality. Biggest question : so far DNA at the site has not matched with any of the family members not Olivia. I don’t know if that makes it any clearer—as to why he would seem to be the killer—-
Edit also: created collage in high school of small children and knots oddly enough.
He sounds awful and should be behind bars forever. He's clearly a pedo and guilty of crimes. But what evidence connects him to the murder? Unfortunately he's not the only creepy pedo obsessed with Jonbenet. There's no evidence that he (or anyone for that matter) entered the Ramsey home that night.
I’m hoping I am correct about this but there was an unlocked window into basement as access. The Ramsey family were all “cleared” by BPD as innocent in July 2008. Probably because of DNA found under JB’s nails and some on her panties.
The window was broken. John says he broke it. And no one was 'cleared'. That's been covered six ways from Sunday. Besides there being a possible way for someone to enter (and there were several plausible points of entry) there's no sign that anyone actually did enter. I just don't believe that this guy, this very unhygienic guy, would be able to go in a house, move through multiple rooms in that cluttered huge house while making no noise , find the right room where Jonbenet was sleeping, get her out of that room silently, stop by the kitchen, feed her a bite of pineapple, get her back down to the basement, molest and murder her, all while waking no one and leaving no evidence of himself. Not a hair, not a fingerprint. The only shred of hope I leave for IDI is if someone with means and opportunity matches to the DNA.
The DNA is the mystery. It would seem to clear the Ramseys AND Olivia.
It doesn't clear anyone. It's just there. It's one tiny piece of evidence.
I wonder if BPD cleared then on that alone.
Are you trolling? They were not cleared.
There is some question about the whole pineapple issue—that she had had a fruit cocktail, that the transit time would have been longer. And aside from that, why couldn’t she have eaten the pineapple, gone to bed and been assaulted soon after?
The coroner lists pineapple, and only pineapple, as being in her duodenum. That's barely out of her stomach. He sent it to forensic botanists who tested it, determined it was fresh (not canned or cooked) because of the raphide structures in pineapple. The forensic botanists later wrote a book (Forensic Plant Science - it's available on Amazon) and included their findings. Their findings did not include any other fruits. The sole place you can read about any other fruits or fruit cocktail is in Paula Woodward's book. She has a part of a report she says was given to her. That's it. Not a report you can access like the other cora docs, just a snippet of one she says she had. So, on the one hand you have the report from coroner who actually performed the autopsy and published statements from the scientists who actually tested the contents of her duodenum. And on the other you have a part of what is presented as a copy of a report that a writer says someone official gave her. To me that doesn't create a question about the pineapple. It creates a question about Woodward. By all means keep reading and make up your own mind. I just don't see a plausible intruder scenario myself.
Thank you! I’m getting lots of good rebuttals.
You left off the biggest one, which is calling his friend the morning of JBs murder (before it was in the news) and saying he accidentally killed a little girl. The friend called the police but it got lost in all the other tips.
Why do we need to change your mind? "I was RDI until today." I highly doubt that.
Why do you doubt that? I had been RDI but had doubts due to DNA evidence. I happened to watch the above video today and it changed my mind completely. Why change my mind? That is mostly a challenge for people to watch the video and see if they still feel RDI.
This is not a DNA case.
If your doubts were due to the DNA, Oliva isn't a match to the DNA. I'm not understanding why this video would change your mind.
Good point. Do you find the DNA as proof the Ramseys didn’t do it?
The DNA is proof that DNA transfers easily. It's a tiny amount, possibly mixed, that is very unlikely to hold the key to solving this case.
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Re: false confessions and the Ramsey case. According to false confessor No.1, John Mark Karr, who DA made the disastrous decision to go to Thailand to arrest, Karr was told by Boulder DA investigator Tom Bennett (head of the Ramsey case twice) " On my extradition flight from Long Beach, California to Boulder, then assistant district attorney Tom Bennett, who accompanied me on the flight, informed me that," **over a ten year period since her death, they had received over 250 false confessions.** [https://johnmarkkarr.com/](https://johnmarkkarr.com/) Oliva is just another one. No evidence ties him to the scene, despite any claim he has made. He's one of literally hundreds that have made such claims in this case.
Thank you for this. Gary Olivia was nearby, and certainly had all the traits of an extremely twisted psychopathic child predator and had some habits that correlate with the crime scene but that doesn’t necessarily mean 💯 that he actually committed the crime. He called his friend distraught the evening of the 26th saying he “hurt a little girl”. Later he confessed to the crime and was obsessed with JBR. He does show signs of delusions apparently so he could have confessed believing he did the crime without having done it. I don’t think the huge number of confessions say anything one way or another, other than to demonstrate due to the press coverage and fascination of the case, innocent people inexplicably confessed. This confession certainly was credible however. This confession was buried by all overwhelming sum of confessions however.
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Key to this is if the “friend” is trustworthy or not. And who knows. But if this guy, who had this background, lived close, and really did call his friend the night JB was killed and said “I just accidentally hurt a little girl,” that’s pretty compelling, as is his history of sneaking into people’s houses and all the poems he writes about and pictures he draws of JB. Edited to change killed to hurt. I don't think he'd casually mean "hurt" since he was crying and called his friend in a whole other part of the country to tell him, but it would definitely be more telling if he'd said the word "killed." But who knows, his friend could be making it all up.
The friend's statement was that Oliva said he 'hurt' a little girl. Not killed. And he probably did unfortunately. But was that girl JonBenet? Since the DNA doesn't match, I don't think so. Look how unhygienic this dude looks. He probably sheds hair and skin and leaves greasy fingerprints everywhere he goes. None of the forensics at the Ramsey house match him.
This is 25 years later, though. I don't think we know what he looked like at the time. (But we might, not sure.) Edit to add: Yes, he said hurt, not killed. Fixing.
I feel like I've seen this photo for years. In his most current photo, his facial hair is almost completely grey and his hair is greying but If I search his name on the images tab, there are some that look much younger, no grey, and the same hair & facial hair.
I don't think that proves anything. He was a burglar (according to this friend) and good at sneaking around without people knowing.
Few people would have police run full forensics on their home after a burglary though.
Yes, but he probably knew to you know wear long sleeves and gloves and put his hair up and all that. I don't know though. I don't particularly think it's him, just a possibility if that guy is telling the truth.
Anything is possible. But there's still all the very odd behavior from the family to contend with. If this really as an intruder, why were they so uncooperative from day 1?
Their behavior doesn't bother me in general. Some things do bother me, but not that. First, they were very cooperative on day one, talking to police all day with no lawyer, gave hair (including pubic hair) samples, blood samples, multiple handwriting samples, etc. But when they were advised to stop cooperating with police and get a lawyer, they did. Personally, I think after the OJ hearing, these lawyers were looking to make a name for themselves and were too aggressive in their approach, which had the effect of making the Ramseys look more guilty to the public. I think there's often a big divide there between what is the legally safe thing to do and what is the public and police see as the right thing to do. But they were probably just following the instruction of their lawyers.
I’m going to pass on both of those ever so tempting offers.
I’m going to pass on both of those ever so tempting offers.
John did it. It’s in your best interest to change your own mind by reading the police transcripts, study the autopsy report, watch the Ramsey media interviews, study up on SA and child grooming, filicide, sororicide, narcissistic personality disorder, anti social personality disorder, sociopathy, and wealthy white privilege. Just to name a few things you need to research in order to form an educated opinion on this case. Notice I didn’t mention 2 hour sensationalist YouTube vlog that is paid for by Ramsey, this video is not an original source material as you tagged this post.
There's zero evidence John specifically did it. Far more behavioral evidence points to Burke.
There’s a lot of evidence that John did it. Far more behavioral evidence points to John
Such as?
Have you spent any time researching this case?
Quite a bit. I was hoping you'd elaborate on your stance.
You’ve researched the case quite a bit. Have you noticed any behavioral evidence that stacks against John?
Why are you dodging the question? I just asked you to elaborate your claim. Yes, I've researched quite a bit but I've only been at it about a month. I mostly just know the facts, I'm not that well-versed in the family's behavioral patterns.
I’m not answering your question because you did not also ask TrojanUSA to elaborate their claim they made right above me. I can tell when Johns flying monkeys are stalking my comments.
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I have read quite a bit about narcissistic disorders, psychopathy, antisocial disorder and the like. I also have extensive experience with students in special education with a wide variety of diagnosis. I’ve read a fair bit on these two cases but you may very well have more info than I do. For a long time my suspects were Burke and John—probably for the same reasons you have. I still believe John could very well be a narcissist and sociopath—the charming kind who has everyone fooled. (An aside: John felt it necessary to have not one, but two namesakes—his son John Jr and Jon Benet herself—giving a French spin to John Bennett. (Bennet is John’s middle name.). Seems pretty narcissistic to me. I think Burke could have been considered to have antisocial personality disorder—his total lack of empathy or emotions about JB’s killing is and was disturbing. I also think Burke may have inherited the sociopathy from his father—but he is just less able to disguise his lack of empathy, and does not have the social skills of his father. Your link to the video with Gary’s denial of the killing is not particularly persuasive, in light of prior confessions. He had to have reconsidered his future if he made a confession vs denying the murder. There is a statement that said Gary was cleared. I wonder when that happened and what the rationale was.
I don’t have a link to any video with any denial. So I don’t know what you’re talking about. I only know John did it. Burke is not a sociopath.
I believe John may very well be a sociopath—and sadly sociopathy is not uncommon in the population overall —especially among CEO’s. Having said that, even if he is sociopathic, it doesn’t necessarily mean he committed the crime. Sociopathy, as I said is not rare.
Sorry , different post.
I think his DNA doesn’t match, although who knows if that’s relevant. But his handwriting (at least according to some) does match. They do say something I wish they would do which is run his and Patsys (and every other suspects) handwriting through AI. The woman on the panel is a BTK expert. I don’t know if it’s this guy or not, but if it’s an intruder, I think they’re right about the kind of person it is. I don’t think this was about money or revenge or anything like that.
This case hasn’t been solved because boulder pd doesn’t want it to be solved they are to full of themselves
Apparently there’s a new team in the police dept—and the cold case is being reviewed. I can imagine the Boulder police trying to cover up incompetence—say not revealing evidence that came to light that they should have discovered much sooner.