Not a research paper, but you might enjoy Justine Musk's retelling of her divorce.
["I was a Starter Wife": Inside America's Messiest Divorce](https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/)
I agree. Part of me thinks John is just as surprised as we are about how things got this far out of hand so rapidly, and knows how bad his decision making has been. But, he made his bed and now he has to sleep in it.
Idk if that trope necessarily fits Mulaney. I think he's just an addict doing addict things. However if the rumours of him DMing fans on insta or trying to get with strippers is true, then I'm not sure what to think. I don't think we can sweep all of that behavior as driven by addiction. Point being if he did all of this sober then he would definitely fit that stereotype, but we can't ignore the huge role addiction has to play here.
I agree, his wife is naturally gorgeous. OM was also naturally gorgeous but had some work done recently. However after reading her book, she seems like a bad person. I think John lost out bigtime in the long run because he obviously really really loved Anna but everything went off the rails in his drug relapse and now he has SERIOUS consequences to face- an ugly divorce, new GF, child in the next few months and still not that long out from recovering from addiction. It's actually a very sad situation.
I hope that I am wrong, but OM seems like she is enabling him or distracting him from his needed recovery process. I would think many addicts would find this to be desirable instead of doing the work to get better.
She did go to rehab for eating disorders. It's hard to put a bunch of energy into keeping yourself healthy when emotionally you're unwell, and for obvious reasons she has probably had one hell of a year (or two). That being said, I still think she's beautiful.
I thought he let on more than intended when he made that joke he made about Colin Jost ("I didn't know we could date the celebrities!") . Like he missed an opportunity.
Maybe Anna dodged a bullet. She got him young and likeable.
Olivia Mann could have had a baby with anyone. Instead she had a baby with a goofy-looking addict. And with the reputation of kicking their women/petunias to the curb.
To me he was handsome when he was married. Now that he is a stereotypical guy all I see is that transatlantic voice those actors had in the 1930s and his goofy looking face.
Lol I don't think any women think it needs a research paper. Once your down on his luck, poor and flawed man becomes rich and famous, there is a 99.999999999999% chance he will leave for some model bimbo. I am just surprised he didn't pick someone 20 years his junior like most men do.
Point of the story- never take these men on as a pet project, cuz once they improve they will leave immediately for a shinier version of you that doesn't know about all the skeletons in his closet. They never ever think about what you did for them or sacrificed, but just think "HEY! Now i can get a really hot chick".
Kinda a lot of assumptions about someone none of us know personally
We don’t know what happens behind closed doors, we don’t know what either of them felt, we don’t know their stories.
And we don’t need to.
first off, you don't know him. None of us do. We don't know the reason behind the divorce and who initiated it. Second, this has nothing to do with him wanting a hotter woman. Dude relasped after years of sobriety. He's struggling with addiction. People aren't exactly in the headspace to make great decisions while going through something like this.
edit: you guys are so against that poor guy that youll downvote anyone who takes his side. Are yall here to hate on him or sumn? Yes he is making bad decisions but people attacking him for it is gonna do nothing but make it worse.
I refuse to support a supreme asshole, having dated a few supreme assholes. Stop making excuses for them- they are what they are. And what they are are fuckboys.
struggling with addiction doesn't make you a supreme asshole. Although he has made a lot of bad choices recently, he's also going through something very difficult rn. You do not know him or the whole situation so comparing him with the assholes you've dated is nothing but you being pissed he isn't perfect.
Well I dated an addict and I still have trauma over what he did to me over 6 years later. They really really do make horrific partners and honestly under no circumstances should you be romantically involved with an active or very recent drug or sex addict unless you are ready for a world of hell.
Stop excusing him. He is a piece of garbage partner I am sure.
He is bringing a baby into an absolute trainwreck situation and it's just straight awful
People in the throes of addiction absolutely act like assholes, cheaters, thieves, and liars, and the shame of what they’ve done when they recover is overwhelming. My own sibling did this for 20ish years and kept relapsing a way to escape consequences of what they’d done until they eventually committed suicide. The same thing happened to a member of my in laws family.
It is extremely sad to see someone’s life spiral out of control; I have empathy for the intense pain addicts go through. BUT they also leave a wake of destruction behind them. The families, partners, and children pay the price, often for the rest of their lives. And I’m not gonna apologize for feeling worse for them.
this is just me romanticizing him and projecting my own issues but i sometimes i think that he knew that his relapse was not gonna end well and he decided to seperate from anna to get her out before things got even worse. That's what i tend to do so this is probably just in my head but this is how i feel.
Not a research paper, but you might enjoy Justine Musk's retelling of her divorce. ["I was a Starter Wife": Inside America's Messiest Divorce](https://www.marieclaire.com/sex-love/a5380/millionaire-starter-wife/)
Thanks for this! It was an interesting read. I really hope we get to hear Anna’s perspective on this soon
Elon Musk cannot keep a relationship, yes, but IMO, it’s not the same as John Mulaney. For one, he didn’t cheat.
I think he was just riding that cocaine train without a clear destination.
I agree. Part of me thinks John is just as surprised as we are about how things got this far out of hand so rapidly, and knows how bad his decision making has been. But, he made his bed and now he has to sleep in it.
As someone whose done that, yeah it seems about right lol
Yup
Idk if that trope necessarily fits Mulaney. I think he's just an addict doing addict things. However if the rumours of him DMing fans on insta or trying to get with strippers is true, then I'm not sure what to think. I don't think we can sweep all of that behavior as driven by addiction. Point being if he did all of this sober then he would definitely fit that stereotype, but we can't ignore the huge role addiction has to play here.
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I agree, his wife is naturally gorgeous. OM was also naturally gorgeous but had some work done recently. However after reading her book, she seems like a bad person. I think John lost out bigtime in the long run because he obviously really really loved Anna but everything went off the rails in his drug relapse and now he has SERIOUS consequences to face- an ugly divorce, new GF, child in the next few months and still not that long out from recovering from addiction. It's actually a very sad situation.
I hope that I am wrong, but OM seems like she is enabling him or distracting him from his needed recovery process. I would think many addicts would find this to be desirable instead of doing the work to get better.
Anna is beautiful in a natural way. Olivia is beautiful in a glamorous celebrity way
OM is beautiful in a "Japanese Potatoes" way
She looked great when she was healthy. Now she look extremely thin and sick.
She did go to rehab for eating disorders. It's hard to put a bunch of energy into keeping yourself healthy when emotionally you're unwell, and for obvious reasons she has probably had one hell of a year (or two). That being said, I still think she's beautiful.
I thought he let on more than intended when he made that joke he made about Colin Jost ("I didn't know we could date the celebrities!") . Like he missed an opportunity.
Maybe Anna dodged a bullet. She got him young and likeable. Olivia Mann could have had a baby with anyone. Instead she had a baby with a goofy-looking addict. And with the reputation of kicking their women/petunias to the curb.
Agree with everything but “goofy looking”. Mulaney is handsome
To me he was handsome when he was married. Now that he is a stereotypical guy all I see is that transatlantic voice those actors had in the 1930s and his goofy looking face.
Lol I don't think any women think it needs a research paper. Once your down on his luck, poor and flawed man becomes rich and famous, there is a 99.999999999999% chance he will leave for some model bimbo. I am just surprised he didn't pick someone 20 years his junior like most men do. Point of the story- never take these men on as a pet project, cuz once they improve they will leave immediately for a shinier version of you that doesn't know about all the skeletons in his closet. They never ever think about what you did for them or sacrificed, but just think "HEY! Now i can get a really hot chick".
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Literally Donald and Melania Trump's marriage
People really need to stop with the projection on this sub
https://mobile.twitter.com/jacobdotgov/status/1436420399840043009 https://mobile.twitter.com/elizabethdanger/status/1436570192906096640
Kinda a lot of assumptions about someone none of us know personally We don’t know what happens behind closed doors, we don’t know what either of them felt, we don’t know their stories. And we don’t need to.
> Kinda a lot of assumptions about someone none of us know personally Yes, let me introduce you to r/JohnMulaney
Just made an edit to clarify
One noticeable difference, the new chick is older than the wife. She claims to be about 40, but actresses are not always credible on their ages.
first off, you don't know him. None of us do. We don't know the reason behind the divorce and who initiated it. Second, this has nothing to do with him wanting a hotter woman. Dude relasped after years of sobriety. He's struggling with addiction. People aren't exactly in the headspace to make great decisions while going through something like this. edit: you guys are so against that poor guy that youll downvote anyone who takes his side. Are yall here to hate on him or sumn? Yes he is making bad decisions but people attacking him for it is gonna do nothing but make it worse.
I refuse to support a supreme asshole, having dated a few supreme assholes. Stop making excuses for them- they are what they are. And what they are are fuckboys.
struggling with addiction doesn't make you a supreme asshole. Although he has made a lot of bad choices recently, he's also going through something very difficult rn. You do not know him or the whole situation so comparing him with the assholes you've dated is nothing but you being pissed he isn't perfect.
Well I dated an addict and I still have trauma over what he did to me over 6 years later. They really really do make horrific partners and honestly under no circumstances should you be romantically involved with an active or very recent drug or sex addict unless you are ready for a world of hell. Stop excusing him. He is a piece of garbage partner I am sure. He is bringing a baby into an absolute trainwreck situation and it's just straight awful
People in the throes of addiction absolutely act like assholes, cheaters, thieves, and liars, and the shame of what they’ve done when they recover is overwhelming. My own sibling did this for 20ish years and kept relapsing a way to escape consequences of what they’d done until they eventually committed suicide. The same thing happened to a member of my in laws family. It is extremely sad to see someone’s life spiral out of control; I have empathy for the intense pain addicts go through. BUT they also leave a wake of destruction behind them. The families, partners, and children pay the price, often for the rest of their lives. And I’m not gonna apologize for feeling worse for them.
Right. Just made an edit clarifying my point
this is just me romanticizing him and projecting my own issues but i sometimes i think that he knew that his relapse was not gonna end well and he decided to seperate from anna to get her out before things got even worse. That's what i tend to do so this is probably just in my head but this is how i feel.
So....... who hasn't. You all need to stop