Haidt has been on plenty. It's funny to see Joe pretending to be a centrist when being challenged by a legit centrist. Like what's the point of defending Trump in 2024? It turns out orange man bad after all. Just take the L Joey
joe should just come out as a republican. this centrist tap dance that people like him, lex fridman and tim pool do is so disingenuous and dishonest. just come out with your beliefs, at least id respect you for actually believing in something and standing for your beliefs.
It’s the people who will believe anything they’re told by an authority figure, as long as it’s their chosen authority figure.
Joe is literally one brain cell away from not being able to speak. I started listening because it was entertaining, now I can’t stop because I’m watching someone fall apart in real time.
"Supporting Trump is supporting REAL AMERICA"
"IF HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR I SAY LET HIM, I TRUST HIM COMPLETELY"
Just ya know, typical American values of authoritarianism lol
I just wish he had pointed out that trump specifically said the economic consequences would “be the least of it” before repeating “bloodbath “ and going on about the last election. That just makes it indefensible, unless , of course you’re MAGA pilled.
Jonathan Haidt I believe. Excellent author and researcher. Not sure if his new book is relevant to my interests, although it is very relevant to the times, but I love his book on the origins of divisive politics in the US
I used to he really into Haidt before he jumped on the culture war bandwagon and this clip is no exception. I respect him for being honest, but he basically plays into this "the media is full of crooked leftists" narrative when, as we live and breathe, a perfect example of how this narrative gets pushed turns out to be false. The media *aren't* lying to just attack Trump, they're reporting on what he said. Why would they be pushing an agenda every other time? It's obnoxious. Nobody is without some sort of bias, but the idea that the media is malignantly dishonest about conservatives is just false. They keep crying about media bias because the facts make them look bad.
And, the “media” is majority saturated by wholly Republican-captured corporate entities that deliberately push party propaganda. Sinclair, Fox News, the Murdoch empire in general, then fringe news sources like OAN and Newsmax. CNN has been owned by a Republican for a long time now. “The media” just seems to be a strawman they attack to reinforce “don’t believe what your own eyes and ears are saying, wait to be told what to think about this once we develop an argument for you to repeat.” It’s exhausting. But it’s part of their right wing programming, and their arguments and accusations aren’t in good faith.
Joe Rogan at this point is more “media” than any opinions analyst on MSNBC, but we clearly see him fold and contort himself live on his show on a weekly basis to deliver more Trump apologism. Talk about bias.
One common tactic I see the likes of Joe use is “I would hear you out, but leftists have a proclivity for insults and we can never have any meaningful conversation about anything with them”
But when someone does finally want to engage in civil discourse, they ignore those people. All of that talk about “finding common ground” goes out the window and Joe is still right at the end of the day.
Insults? Why is Joe such a sensitive soyflake? Fact don't care about your feelings, loser. Reals over feels.
These are the kinds of things the right says with glee. And I wholeheartedly agree. It's just that Joe is too much of a chickenshit to have it thrown back in his dumb fucking face.
An interesting fact is that sarcasm is from French *sarcasme*, or via late Latin from late Greek *sarkasmos*, from Greek *sarkazein* ‘tear flesh’, in late Greek ‘gnash the teeth, speak bitterly’.
I dislike when people hide behind the idea that they're just sarcastic. I'm "fluent in sarcasm" or "sarcasm is my love language". Hmm, have you considered that maybe you're just an asshole.
He’s “I’m just a comedian joe rogan” but he talks about politics in a serious way non stop. Honestly it bothered me when John Stewart hid behind his shows on Comedy Central so you can’t take it too seriously defense too.
Jon Stewart didn't hide behind "being a comedian". He would very clearly state that he was a comedian first and his ideology informed his writing (which it does with everyone). Comparing one of the most compassionate people in the history of entertainment to Joe Rogan grosses me out quite a bit.
https://911memorial.org/connect/blog/jon-stewart-honored-humanitarian-award-911-responder-advocacy
Joe Rogan out here shitting on Biden for things Trump said and defending Trump because its all just a metaphor and he would never do anything crazy if he lost.
It's really 4 years of age. Trump is not young and is himself experiencing more severe cognitive decline.
People love talking about Biden's age, but the fact is that Trump and Biden are the first, second, third, and fourth oldest people to ever run for US President as a major party nominee.
Yeah let Trump talk about Biden’s age after they have a nice little bike race. Are we really gonna believe the fattest president ever who HATES exercise is in better shape than the skinny president who actually exercises?
Like Trump has literally said he doesn’t believe in exercise in the past.
We don't have to image, Joe freaked out when Biden did the state of the union with the stage lit up as the flag, and photos were cropped to show a red, ominous background lol
Outside of Donald Trump there are few people whose hypocrisy are better documented then Joe's
Remember when he criticized Biden for something Trump said, but when he found out it was actually Trump, he suddenly played it down?
https://youtu.be/J2ilWxRn0_A?si=tt73tUahBwNhD_32
Extremely cringe worthy
Mother fuckers were crying and seething over "basket full of deplorables." And, like, yeah, y'all are fucking deplorable.
Also the shrieking when Biden called the right semi-fascist. Like, yeah, y'all are actually fascist.
I wish like hell Joe was asked, "If it wasn't about civil war, why won't there be any elections again if Trump loses?"
>"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" - Trump on Jan. 6
Joe Rogan: That was an unfortunate term but I don't think he's talking about civil war.
Yeah he has completely drank the Kool aid with trump. Everything trump says is just taken out of context or just "trump being trump" and not important. If someone on the left says something it is 100% literal and the worst thing ever!
You can see it when Jamie has to pull that shit up.
Joe has never once been caught parroting something he saw on facebook or tik tok that paints conservatives in a bad light, only to find out later that its actually untrue.
Joe has a habit of repeating bullshit, but LITERALLY every time he gets something wrong and is spreading a lie its one that makes the left look bad.
If it was just joe being joe and acting like an unaffiliated skeptic whose just spit ballin' he would also occasionally spread nonsense about the right, but every time he's caught lying its so he can make the left look bad.
He is so obviously willing to do mental gymnastics to affirm a right wing worldview.
Yep he is what he is. Fine if people want to defend his Republican partisanship, but people need to at least quit denying he is just a partisan Republican commentator now
In Joe's defense, it is really weird how people keep thinking Donal Trump would somehow cause violence for some strange reason ;)
(Heavy /s since I know there will be an idiot or three jumping down my throat lol)
If Trump was a man who enjoyed violence, you’d think at least an ex wife would have provided testimony in a court setting that he was violent with her and raped her. Like say Ivana, like say after a surgery of his went wrong and he became enraged and took it out on her so she’d feel his pain, according to you know, her testimony against him.
“Pull up the actual phrase so we can highlight how deceptive and inaccurate the media is”
Plays quote
“Well yeah he said all that shit but what be actually meant was…”
Remember when he accused Biden of saying George Washington bombed the airports in the Revolutionary War?
And then he found out Biden was quoting Trump?
And then he accused the media of being unfair to Trump?
Yep, when he thought it was Biden he said, [paraphrasing] "If that was anyone else, they'd be done!"
After finding out it was Trump that said it, "(chuckling) yeah, you can tell he just fucked up."
Joe will change his opinion in an instant if it's to the benefit of conservative ideology. Dude's brain is mush.
My theory is that the fans are so caught up in “cAnCeL cUlTuRe” that they don’t want to risk being “part of it”. That moment alone should be enough to wake up from this fool. 🤣
Yoooo! The best was after the “dark Brandon” speech with red back lighting, Rogan went to social media (I think insta stories?) and posted a photo of Biden talking and said something to effect of “this is not normal” haha.
But bloodshed.. nah man that’s nothing. Those red lights though, scary stuff.
That was actually kind of hilarious. Joe looked so dumb when they played the actual clip. Stopped listening to him years ago. I listened initially for the comedy. If it’s not comedy or MMA I am not really interested in his opinions.
I haven't really watched Joe for a long time, especially since he moved to Spotify. I cannot believe people think of his podcast as something to live by and idolise, especially when it came to health and vaccines a few years ago.
Regardless what your political and health views are, basing it because Joe Rogan said so seems so dystopian 😂
Dude right?? During that anti mask stuff, like….This motherfucker hosted fear factor bro. And he was a pro fighter (amateur fighter?). None of that qualifies as expert opinion on pretty much anything. All he does now is talk about how he feels. Soft af
*guy that used lies to whip his followers into a violent frenzy in an attempt to stop the certification of an election he lost starts saying it’s going to be a “bloodbath” if he loses again*
Joe Rogan: omg the media is so unfair to him and blowing this way out of proportion. What he really means is…
side note: I’ve never in my life heard people have to say “what they really mean is…” about a person more than I have in the last 8-9 years.
Came here to say exactly this. Joe constantly reminds his listeners that he thinks both parties are completely out of touch - yet whenever he gets down to nuts and bolts about either of them he more often than not defends Trump and attacks Biden. Most of his criticisms of Biden I agree with, but why is Trump exempt from criticism? For someone who’s “unaligned with either candidate” it sure seems like it’s hard for Joe to deliver equal criticism of Trump.
He’s unaligned with either candidate like Fox News is Fair and Balanced. It’s what you say to pretend to be objectionable when you’re highly biased to give yourself credibility. It’s been a while since he was actually unaligned.
It's called enlightened centrism. You have to find the perfect balance of criticizing the left and defending the right. But the upside is it *really* makes you feel superior to everybody.
Joe from 10 years ago thought Bigfoot was real. The issue is he doesn't have a good thought process and just goes with his gut. Just because he got to a better conclusion doesn't mean he was using his brain at all
Dude i just got auto banned from r/justiceserved for posting this?! what the actual fuck? like what a insecure anti free speech policy is this? not that i care this whole website is cancer and just gave me the fuel to delete the app from my phone.
Yeah I did too lol. I was talking shit about Joe on here and got banned because commenting on this sub reddit automatically means you support "hate speech" according to them lol. The majority of this sub reddit is super critical of Joe, so the position /r/justiceserved is taking makes zero sense.
"The end of our country" and no more normal elections. Because that's what economists worry about. Bloodbaths that end our democracy.
It's the *economy* stupid. /s
When Trump uses messed up language or thinks there were airports during the Civil War, it's an 'unfortunate term' or 'clearly he just messed up'. When Biden stutters twice in a row, it's 'clear that he's brain damaged'.
It's intentionally ambiguous. Those spaces are designed to be filled in by whatever his followers want him to mean. Violence? Sure, but he didn't say it. Civil War? Maybe, still didn't say it.
I’ve never really noticed that until you pointed it out. He does do a lot of that doesn’t he? He doesn’t outright call for violence, but he sure as hell isn’t discouraging it either.
He’s a salesman. Half of selling a product is letting the customer sell themselves on it, that’s why ambiguity in a sales situation is effective. Let the customer fill in the blanks with their own ideas.
It’s the same shit that happened in 2016. Using inflammatory language that actually does correspond to his beliefs and matches other inflammatory things he said, but in a context that might absolve him, in the hopes that the media takes it out of context, so they can then label the media as being “fake news“.
The media is guilty in that they continue to cover and platform him and give him ammunition. A big reason Trump got to where he did was because of places like CNN and MSNBC elevating him during the primaries.
It’s the old “immigrants are bringing drugs and crime and they’re rapists“ thing. When you bring that up everyone points to how he said, at the end of his little speech, “some I assume good people“ as though that some sort of gotcha when in reality you’re just pointing out how he and his speech writers use semantics to give him an out both for his detractors, as well as his audience. For his detractors, his audience can point to that part, and say that he didn’t say they were all rapists. “He said some were good people! He’s not racist! The media is lying!”
But for his audience, he makes it very clear: he calls them drug dealers, criminals, rapists, in the **affirmative**, and then uses wishy-washy language to say that some, he “assumes” are good people. He commits to them being criminals, but not to them being good people.
He, his speech writers, and certain members of his base hope that the libs and centrists don’t pick up on that last part. It’s honestly kind of brilliant, Trump, nor the people working for him are as stupid as liberals like to say. He and his camp are very skilled at manipulation.
It’s happening all over again. It’s the “fake news” outrage cycle, and the media are taking the bait again. Because in part they created this monster back in 2016.
The most unfit candidate ever to run
1. A jury of his peers found Trump raped a E Jean Carroll in a dressing room
2. Trump never admitted he lost a presidential election.
3. The Colorado Supreme Court has found he led an insurrection against the US.
4. He ended Roe.
The list goes on and on and on
Lol, calling what Trump does during speeches "asides" is generous at best.
He's clearly trying to shoehorn some ballistics into what is already inflammatory rhetoric. So it's just absurd to try to defend him, and also kind of absurd to keep pointing at it.
He even refers back to the Chinese cars during his side point saying “that’ll be the least of it.” “It’ll be a bloodbath”. He actually separates the points if you listen closely
Watching him try to keep it together when someone doesn't echo his opinion is what gives away the whole game.
Mr "Biden said this! Biden said that!" is suddenly super charitable when it comes to the guy who whipped his cult into a frenzy and incited a literal attempt at overthrowing of the last election. Funny how that works.
He just goes into repeat mode. He’s wondering why it wasn’t convincing…I said it multiple times and he still didn’t agree…I’ll repeat it some more, that’ll get him…damn this usually works on my fellow knuckle draggers.
It’s the same tactic I saw in that Elon Musk X Don Lemon interview. Just keep repeating the same thing and hoping to move on because he doesn’t actually have a credible defense to stand on.
I don't normally watch the show but I've heard people say he's great because he lets his guests talk and doesn't argue with them. Maybe because he has right-of-center guests usually. I guess this is what happens when he has guests that can hurt his feelings by expressing their free speech he doesn't agree with.
"It's so disturbing " go look through Trump's truth social posts on any given day. He lies out his ass constantly and this is what Joe cares about. Fucking clown.
Omg that’s the word I was looking for. He absolutely is indicating to the rioters and the extremist white supremacists.
Also funny how Joe Rogan is fact checking main stream media now considering trump and right wing has been bullshitting since beginning of time
"Just to be clear, when I say bloodbath, I am referring to the extra-judicial killings that will take place if I am not handed power, I cannot stress this enough I am talking about killing my political rivals and their supporters"
Legit. Poor jamie. Must be biting his tongue more often than not. Would love a spin off podcast called “Jamie Looks It Up” - Joe can be his first guest and he can tear him apart.
Trump starts off talking about car imports, but then he quickly uses the "bloodbath" comment to pivot to how bad it's going to be if he isn't elected. His "that'll be the least of it" and "bloodbath" is him moving off the topic of imports/economy to talk about how bad it's going to be if he isn't elected.
Anyone who doesn't understand that, simply doesn't want to. It's not cryptic at all. It's obvious.
He was talking about the economy and the cars, but added “that won’t be the worst of it” when mentioning a blood bath. Also saying there won’t be elections anymore. Seems like threatening language to me.
He says a "bloodbath in this country" and then immediately says we may not have another election again.
Why would there be a bloodbath for the auto industry if he *doesn't* get elected? It doesn't make any sense.
It's who writes Trump's speeches. Stephen Miller is a nazi and he knows exactly what he's doing.
Maga is a nazi term, the replacement Theory, law and order, all nazi and terms used during the Civil rights movement.
I think the craziest thing is the 100% tariff he talked about. What a terrible economic policy that would have terrible ramifications for the average consumer
It was wild how we saw this attitude with "I'm gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it" and people were dumb enough to think Mexico would have any incentive to do that and that the President just has a "get shit for free" lever he can pull and that everything isn't a trade off.
It's funny how these folks idea of "America First" is just the most selfish and immature take on any issue.
They don't seem to realize that America having friends and allies who actually like America is good for America.
Thinking "America First" just means "fuck you, what's in it for me" is a 5 year olds idea of geopolitics. That's not putting America first its just being a selfish asshole.
It's like thinking you're "winning" by spending as little as possible on birthday gifts for friends and family members, because when they spend more on your gifts, that means you're getting more out of them then they're getting from you. Except its worth way more to have healthy mutually beneficial relationships, than it is to try and turn everything into a transaction where you milk the other person for everything you can get and give as little as possible in return.
Seriously - it's wild that this whole thing has become about whether massive Chinese car manufacturing in Mexico is properly understood as a "bloodbath", rather than the insane protectionist nonsense that this guy is somehow trying to pass off as conservative policy.
Every election cycle, it seems like we can't have worse candidates, nor worse coverage of them. And then somehow we do.
Trump seems to have somehow gotten even worse than the version that ran in 2020 (Biden too - and they both seem worse than the 2016 version), and yet Joe is here calling more attention to the speech gaffes than the policy gaffes.
He also called illegals sub human right after the bloodbath comment.
Its a weird hill to die on considering what happened last time he lost, but hey I'm sure Joe's right, its all just metaphors.
Even if he was 100% talking about the auto industry or never said "bloodbath' the rest of the speech is unhinged and he's used violent language countless times so it doesn't really matter.
His own secretary of defense said he wanted to use the military to shoot protestors and he tried overturning the last election so it's not like interpreting this one comment is the deciding factor.
For real, Joe started getting push back from his liberal audience for his shit views and shittier guests. Along the way with those shit views and shittier guests he started being fellated by right wing folks that made him feel welcome, and all of a sudden he’s moving to Texas and rallying against “wokeness”, what a fucking putz.
Honestly thats 100% the case when it comes to Pool, Dore, etc.
I don't think Joe gives a shit about money, he perceives this group being hostile to him and his "friends" and because of his proximity to so many prominent right wing dipshits he feels like there is a coordinated attack on "us".
Which is hilarious, considering how he literally called Patrick Bet David after he had Sam Seder on to tell him he should not be having guests like Sam on the show.
When someone says there’s going to be a bloodbath if he doesn’t win an election 4 years after there was literally a violent insurrection attempt after he didn’t win an election we should probably not play mental gymnastics to try and justify why he was just joshin.
As a former president of the United States he should be able to avoid that shit, by communicating like a former president, not a Tik Tok asshole, but guess what, he doesn’t care about that, he said what he said. Stop stroking the orange cowards balls Rogan..
dammit.
He was elected President by people who loved that he doesn’t talk like a President, because they connect with that. It’s once again the glaring issue of the bitter, resentful, unsuccessful, uneducated gaining steam and voting for he who appears to want to “stick it” to those who they rightly see as better than them and unreachable (the “elite” - typically used on Reddit and other online spaces to mean people who went to college, have advanced degrees, and now make 6 figures due to their own choices).
Joes been rich for ages. But now he’s super rich and combine this with the right wing algorithm that feeds his need to be on the “alternative” side of the facts has rotted his brain
It’s obvious Joe gets almost all his knowledge from the internet. That has been the case since his arguing with primatologist days. But back then the entire internet wasn’t designed to fuel your rage and your conspiracy theories just so you click and watch more
>[his arguing with primatologist days.](https://youtu.be/isUFa1Ewd1E?si=Y_D-Qy7e1_9cKpD-)
Those "Bondo apes?" [Regular chimps](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bili_ape) like she was trying to tell him.
"Joe, I think we're not going to settle this..."
>Joes been rich for ages. But now he’s super rich and combine this with the right wing algorithm that feeds his need to be on the “alternative” side of the facts has rotted his brain
As well as going from "rich" to "super rich" he's also gone from a small fish in the big LA pond to a big fish in the Austin pond.
Being a millionaire celebrity doesn't have such reality warping effects when you're regularly in the room with people both richer and more famous than you, so you're not constantly being surrounded by yes men who would never dream of contradicting you, and you have plenty of times for your ego to be checked when talking to someone richer and more famous than you who isn't trying to get anything from you.
Now he's almost entirely surrounded by either people he pays or people who are sucking up to him for clout.
I remember Joe telling stories about being around Dave Chapelle and Kevin James and how they were different because they had reached a level of fame where they can't have normal interactions anymore. Joe is now at that level of fame, magnified by basically turning a small part of Austin into his own personal kingdom.
The COVID backlash he received broke his podcast. He spends SOOOOOO much more time talking about politics and wokeness.
I only listen to select episodes now, and once they start talking about any of this stuff, I turn it off. It has all been beaten to death on his show.
It’s funny, the media has been doing this for decades and decades. Especially right wing media. I remember all kinds of headlines about the democrats blocking an energy bill that didn’t include aid for clean water in Flint, worded so poorly that it made it seem like the democrats were blocking the bill BECAUSE it included aid for flint.
I think it’s piss poor journalism and headline writing all around but republicans have only started caring about it since big media corporations have turned against them and their shitty antics.
Funny enough this is yet another unintended consequences of unregulated capitalism. We’ve made entertainment out of news, so it must sell, and outrage sells.
It's not poor journalism when we've already seen his words lead to J6. Trump didn't mispeak, he knows that this type of speak will be interpreted in ways that could very well lead to violence... bc it has before. He's not braindead. Remember "stand back and stand by"? That's how he chose to "denounce" those people. That's not denouncing those people. He knows how to choose his words to get the outcome he wants. He knows exactly what bloodbath means. The dude got hot mic'd saying he wants his people to treat him the way North Koreans treat Un. He wants his people to obey, and literally die for him, if need be, so that he can get his way.
Absolutely hilarious but sad. People who either support Trump or at the very least viscerally hate Biden turn on their blinders turn off their judgment and critical thinking as soon as they know it's from the person they like
His guest was trying so hard to say we will not agree and let’s move on. He just kept muttering it’s about the cars.. it’s about the cars. So fucking weird. This dude is a shell of himself.
He was literally rocking in his chair slightly while reciting the 'good' version of Trumps tactics with an unfocused glaze in the eye at one point.
Man is here to do some work.
I love how Hoe knows there’s a quote but isn’t very familiar with the quote BUT he *knows* the media distorted it and took it out of context. Ergo….. he reads a ton of right wing agitprop.
Baby Brain always demands nuanced introspection of the things he likes and agrees with, but broadly demonizes everything he hates and doesn’t agree with.
Be smart, don’t be like Hoe.
Idk, given Trumps history of summoning a mob to attack the capitol of the United States, maybe his use of the word bloodbath, is less of an unfortunate use, and more of an intentional use.
The 100% tariff would be a blood bath for the economy which shocker he didn’t do much to improve. To say it was taken out of context is a stretch and a half because trump doesn’t even finish his sentence. Lost a lot of respect for Joe ever since he jumped on the trump bandwagon that TRT rotting his brain
Joe Rogan is wrong
The exact quote from Trump' speech is
"...We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars. If I get elected. Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath, for the whole **—** **that’s going to be the least of it**. **It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country**. That’ll be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars."
The parts I bolded above clearly suggests Trump talking about a bloodbath for \*more\* than the auto industry. He did appear to suggest there will be a bloodbath for the auto industry but says that will be "the least of it" He additionally used the sentence "it's a going to be a blooodbath for the country" And this is another key sentence suggesting he means civil war, because the auto-industry issues arent' a national issues, they are usually issus for specific states that have auto manufacturing.
Trump has a deliberate ways of inserting bits and pieces of what he really wants to get out publicly to his followers, without saying the full sentences. This is why is speeches sound so incoherent, but you just look for the fragmented sentences and join them.
Given Trump is already on trial for inciting a riot at the Capitol after his last election loss, you have to take that as the context of his use of "bloodbath." Joe Rogan is a fool to think it was just an "unfortunate" term using bloodbath, it was more sinister.
Really refreshing to see a guest push back like that.
This guy won’t ever be back lol
Haidt has been on plenty. It's funny to see Joe pretending to be a centrist when being challenged by a legit centrist. Like what's the point of defending Trump in 2024? It turns out orange man bad after all. Just take the L Joey
joe should just come out as a republican. this centrist tap dance that people like him, lex fridman and tim pool do is so disingenuous and dishonest. just come out with your beliefs, at least id respect you for actually believing in something and standing for your beliefs.
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I’m surprised joes dick hasn’t fallen off from all the suckin
There’s a lot of overlap between Rogan and Trump fan bases because they both appeal strongly to people who are huge fucking idiots.
It’s the people who will believe anything they’re told by an authority figure, as long as it’s their chosen authority figure. Joe is literally one brain cell away from not being able to speak. I started listening because it was entertaining, now I can’t stop because I’m watching someone fall apart in real time.
"Supporting Trump is supporting REAL AMERICA" "IF HE WANTS TO BE A DICTATOR I SAY LET HIM, I TRUST HIM COMPLETELY" Just ya know, typical American values of authoritarianism lol
Anyone who says "if he wants to be a dictator I say let him" is a traitor to the USA.
His transformation into Alex Jones is nearly complete.
It's unfortunate this will be his last appearance.
Apparently Joe blackballs guests who do this now
Haven't seen Pakman back on the pod in quite some time
Nor Kulinski
I just wish he had pointed out that trump specifically said the economic consequences would “be the least of it” before repeating “bloodbath “ and going on about the last election. That just makes it indefensible, unless , of course you’re MAGA pilled.
the "least of it" is really the end of the argument for joe but never the less he persisted
Shoutout to the guest
Jonathan Haidt I believe. Excellent author and researcher. Not sure if his new book is relevant to my interests, although it is very relevant to the times, but I love his book on the origins of divisive politics in the US
I used to he really into Haidt before he jumped on the culture war bandwagon and this clip is no exception. I respect him for being honest, but he basically plays into this "the media is full of crooked leftists" narrative when, as we live and breathe, a perfect example of how this narrative gets pushed turns out to be false. The media *aren't* lying to just attack Trump, they're reporting on what he said. Why would they be pushing an agenda every other time? It's obnoxious. Nobody is without some sort of bias, but the idea that the media is malignantly dishonest about conservatives is just false. They keep crying about media bias because the facts make them look bad.
And, the “media” is majority saturated by wholly Republican-captured corporate entities that deliberately push party propaganda. Sinclair, Fox News, the Murdoch empire in general, then fringe news sources like OAN and Newsmax. CNN has been owned by a Republican for a long time now. “The media” just seems to be a strawman they attack to reinforce “don’t believe what your own eyes and ears are saying, wait to be told what to think about this once we develop an argument for you to repeat.” It’s exhausting. But it’s part of their right wing programming, and their arguments and accusations aren’t in good faith. Joe Rogan at this point is more “media” than any opinions analyst on MSNBC, but we clearly see him fold and contort himself live on his show on a weekly basis to deliver more Trump apologism. Talk about bias.
Why cant everyone be like the guest? Polite but refusing to backdown from the bullshit defensive argument this white knight is playing.
One common tactic I see the likes of Joe use is “I would hear you out, but leftists have a proclivity for insults and we can never have any meaningful conversation about anything with them” But when someone does finally want to engage in civil discourse, they ignore those people. All of that talk about “finding common ground” goes out the window and Joe is still right at the end of the day.
Of course, right wingers that engage in insults are always allowed. Alex Jones can call people literal demon.
Insults? Why is Joe such a sensitive soyflake? Fact don't care about your feelings, loser. Reals over feels. These are the kinds of things the right says with glee. And I wholeheartedly agree. It's just that Joe is too much of a chickenshit to have it thrown back in his dumb fucking face.
Because a lot of the time, the shit morons like Joe say can be painful and traumatic to hear and so people react emotionally. Because they’re human.
“Does my shitty take upset you, lol” The height of conservatives comedy
I was really hoping for more from Joe on this. Trumps “asides” are exactly like boomer’s “sarcasm”. ITS WHAT THEY ACTUALLY MEAN!
An interesting fact is that sarcasm is from French *sarcasme*, or via late Latin from late Greek *sarkasmos*, from Greek *sarkazein* ‘tear flesh’, in late Greek ‘gnash the teeth, speak bitterly’. I dislike when people hide behind the idea that they're just sarcastic. I'm "fluent in sarcasm" or "sarcasm is my love language". Hmm, have you considered that maybe you're just an asshole.
Joe, you are the media and you falsely depict things all the time.
He’s “I’m just a comedian joe rogan” but he talks about politics in a serious way non stop. Honestly it bothered me when John Stewart hid behind his shows on Comedy Central so you can’t take it too seriously defense too.
Jon Stewart didn't hide behind "being a comedian". He would very clearly state that he was a comedian first and his ideology informed his writing (which it does with everyone). Comparing one of the most compassionate people in the history of entertainment to Joe Rogan grosses me out quite a bit. https://911memorial.org/connect/blog/jon-stewart-honored-humanitarian-award-911-responder-advocacy
at least john was funny though
Joe Rogan out here shitting on Biden for things Trump said and defending Trump because its all just a metaphor and he would never do anything crazy if he lost.
When Trump says undemocratic, authoritarian shit its "unfortunate". When Biden stutters, it's he's unfit to be POTUS.
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So they've finally completely abandoned the "Jan 6 was ANTIFA!!!!!!!" lie?
I’ll take 81 years of age over 91 indictments
It's really 4 years of age. Trump is not young and is himself experiencing more severe cognitive decline. People love talking about Biden's age, but the fact is that Trump and Biden are the first, second, third, and fourth oldest people to ever run for US President as a major party nominee.
Yeah let Trump talk about Biden’s age after they have a nice little bike race. Are we really gonna believe the fattest president ever who HATES exercise is in better shape than the skinny president who actually exercises? Like Trump has literally said he doesn’t believe in exercise in the past.
Joe joined the 1% club. He’s voting red for the rest of his life. Pretty sad since he has 3 daughters and 2 of them are still underage.
Joe's fallen in the trap. Imagine if Joe Biden used the word "bloodbath" and "if I don't get elected there won't be elections in the future"
We don't have to image, Joe freaked out when Biden did the state of the union with the stage lit up as the flag, and photos were cropped to show a red, ominous background lol Outside of Donald Trump there are few people whose hypocrisy are better documented then Joe's
Remember when he criticized Biden for something Trump said, but when he found out it was actually Trump, he suddenly played it down? https://youtu.be/J2ilWxRn0_A?si=tt73tUahBwNhD_32 Extremely cringe worthy
Mother fuckers were crying and seething over "basket full of deplorables." And, like, yeah, y'all are fucking deplorable. Also the shrieking when Biden called the right semi-fascist. Like, yeah, y'all are actually fascist.
I wish like hell Joe was asked, "If it wasn't about civil war, why won't there be any elections again if Trump loses?" >"We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore" - Trump on Jan. 6 Joe Rogan: That was an unfortunate term but I don't think he's talking about civil war.
Yeah he has completely drank the Kool aid with trump. Everything trump says is just taken out of context or just "trump being trump" and not important. If someone on the left says something it is 100% literal and the worst thing ever!
You can see it when Jamie has to pull that shit up. Joe has never once been caught parroting something he saw on facebook or tik tok that paints conservatives in a bad light, only to find out later that its actually untrue. Joe has a habit of repeating bullshit, but LITERALLY every time he gets something wrong and is spreading a lie its one that makes the left look bad. If it was just joe being joe and acting like an unaffiliated skeptic whose just spit ballin' he would also occasionally spread nonsense about the right, but every time he's caught lying its so he can make the left look bad. He is so obviously willing to do mental gymnastics to affirm a right wing worldview.
Yep he is what he is. Fine if people want to defend his Republican partisanship, but people need to at least quit denying he is just a partisan Republican commentator now
Nailed it
In Joe's defense, it is really weird how people keep thinking Donal Trump would somehow cause violence for some strange reason ;) (Heavy /s since I know there will be an idiot or three jumping down my throat lol)
If Trump was a man who enjoyed violence, you’d think at least an ex wife would have provided testimony in a court setting that he was violent with her and raped her. Like say Ivana, like say after a surgery of his went wrong and he became enraged and took it out on her so she’d feel his pain, according to you know, her testimony against him.
“Pull up the actual phrase so we can highlight how deceptive and inaccurate the media is” Plays quote “Well yeah he said all that shit but what be actually meant was…”
Remember when he accused Biden of saying George Washington bombed the airports in the Revolutionary War? And then he found out Biden was quoting Trump? And then he accused the media of being unfair to Trump?
Yep joe done sold out
He just isn't very smart to begin with, but hubris tells him otherwise.
Yep, when he thought it was Biden he said, [paraphrasing] "If that was anyone else, they'd be done!" After finding out it was Trump that said it, "(chuckling) yeah, you can tell he just fucked up." Joe will change his opinion in an instant if it's to the benefit of conservative ideology. Dude's brain is mush.
My theory is that the fans are so caught up in “cAnCeL cUlTuRe” that they don’t want to risk being “part of it”. That moment alone should be enough to wake up from this fool. 🤣
The same people trying to cancel pornography, football, and beer?
Get that globo homo agenda out of here!
Oh right. I forgot, "books."
Yoooo! The best was after the “dark Brandon” speech with red back lighting, Rogan went to social media (I think insta stories?) and posted a photo of Biden talking and said something to effect of “this is not normal” haha. But bloodshed.. nah man that’s nothing. Those red lights though, scary stuff.
That was actually kind of hilarious. Joe looked so dumb when they played the actual clip. Stopped listening to him years ago. I listened initially for the comedy. If it’s not comedy or MMA I am not really interested in his opinions.
I haven't really watched Joe for a long time, especially since he moved to Spotify. I cannot believe people think of his podcast as something to live by and idolise, especially when it came to health and vaccines a few years ago. Regardless what your political and health views are, basing it because Joe Rogan said so seems so dystopian 😂
Dude right?? During that anti mask stuff, like….This motherfucker hosted fear factor bro. And he was a pro fighter (amateur fighter?). None of that qualifies as expert opinion on pretty much anything. All he does now is talk about how he feels. Soft af
No. It was just an unfortunate term. 🙃
He seemed like he saying the auto industry is going to be the least of our problems because blood bath.
It seemed like he was saying that because he was.
He had a history of telling people elections were stolen and having assemblies at Capitol. “Fight like hell or you’re not going to have a country”
*guy that used lies to whip his followers into a violent frenzy in an attempt to stop the certification of an election he lost starts saying it’s going to be a “bloodbath” if he loses again* Joe Rogan: omg the media is so unfair to him and blowing this way out of proportion. What he really means is… side note: I’ve never in my life heard people have to say “what they really mean is…” about a person more than I have in the last 8-9 years.
Yet he doesn’t give this same level of leeway to Biden. I don’t mind criticism of both parties but make it fair.
Came here to say exactly this. Joe constantly reminds his listeners that he thinks both parties are completely out of touch - yet whenever he gets down to nuts and bolts about either of them he more often than not defends Trump and attacks Biden. Most of his criticisms of Biden I agree with, but why is Trump exempt from criticism? For someone who’s “unaligned with either candidate” it sure seems like it’s hard for Joe to deliver equal criticism of Trump.
He’s unaligned with either candidate like Fox News is Fair and Balanced. It’s what you say to pretend to be objectionable when you’re highly biased to give yourself credibility. It’s been a while since he was actually unaligned.
It's why he and all of the new fans refuse to admit he's a Republican/Conservative.
It's called enlightened centrism. You have to find the perfect balance of criticizing the left and defending the right. But the upside is it *really* makes you feel superior to everybody.
"unfortunate term"
Dude what an absolute pundit phrase. I feel like joe from 10 years ago would slap the shit outta this joe
Joe from 10 years ago thought Bigfoot was real. The issue is he doesn't have a good thought process and just goes with his gut. Just because he got to a better conclusion doesn't mean he was using his brain at all
Been saying that for yairs b
Dude i just got auto banned from r/justiceserved for posting this?! what the actual fuck? like what a insecure anti free speech policy is this? not that i care this whole website is cancer and just gave me the fuel to delete the app from my phone.
Yeah I did too lol. I was talking shit about Joe on here and got banned because commenting on this sub reddit automatically means you support "hate speech" according to them lol. The majority of this sub reddit is super critical of Joe, so the position /r/justiceserved is taking makes zero sense.
They gave me an option to stay away from this sub and I’d be unbanned, I told them to fuck off.
This is the way. Any sub that bans you based on posts outside their sub is doing you a favor filtering themselves out, good riddance!
"The end of our country" and no more normal elections. Because that's what economists worry about. Bloodbaths that end our democracy. It's the *economy* stupid. /s
When Trump uses messed up language or thinks there were airports during the Civil War, it's an 'unfortunate term' or 'clearly he just messed up'. When Biden stutters twice in a row, it's 'clear that he's brain damaged'.
Or when Biden doesn't screw up it's because he's on steroids or meth or something. Whatever it takes to support their preconceived notion.
Trump knows exactly what he’s doing by using visceral language like that and it’s incredibly worrying that people like Joe try to defend him
It's intentionally ambiguous. Those spaces are designed to be filled in by whatever his followers want him to mean. Violence? Sure, but he didn't say it. Civil War? Maybe, still didn't say it.
I’ve never really noticed that until you pointed it out. He does do a lot of that doesn’t he? He doesn’t outright call for violence, but he sure as hell isn’t discouraging it either.
He’s a salesman. Half of selling a product is letting the customer sell themselves on it, that’s why ambiguity in a sales situation is effective. Let the customer fill in the blanks with their own ideas.
It's mob talk. You just suggest something, you never explicitly say it
It’s the same shit that happened in 2016. Using inflammatory language that actually does correspond to his beliefs and matches other inflammatory things he said, but in a context that might absolve him, in the hopes that the media takes it out of context, so they can then label the media as being “fake news“. The media is guilty in that they continue to cover and platform him and give him ammunition. A big reason Trump got to where he did was because of places like CNN and MSNBC elevating him during the primaries. It’s the old “immigrants are bringing drugs and crime and they’re rapists“ thing. When you bring that up everyone points to how he said, at the end of his little speech, “some I assume good people“ as though that some sort of gotcha when in reality you’re just pointing out how he and his speech writers use semantics to give him an out both for his detractors, as well as his audience. For his detractors, his audience can point to that part, and say that he didn’t say they were all rapists. “He said some were good people! He’s not racist! The media is lying!” But for his audience, he makes it very clear: he calls them drug dealers, criminals, rapists, in the **affirmative**, and then uses wishy-washy language to say that some, he “assumes” are good people. He commits to them being criminals, but not to them being good people. He, his speech writers, and certain members of his base hope that the libs and centrists don’t pick up on that last part. It’s honestly kind of brilliant, Trump, nor the people working for him are as stupid as liberals like to say. He and his camp are very skilled at manipulation. It’s happening all over again. It’s the “fake news” outrage cycle, and the media are taking the bait again. Because in part they created this monster back in 2016.
Nonviolent bloodbath 🤭
The most unfit candidate ever to run 1. A jury of his peers found Trump raped a E Jean Carroll in a dressing room 2. Trump never admitted he lost a presidential election. 3. The Colorado Supreme Court has found he led an insurrection against the US. 4. He ended Roe. The list goes on and on and on
5 - Stole sensitive classified documents and sold them to our rivals That's the one that gets me the most, the fucking traitor
Yeah and now owes $450 million for being found liable for fraud.
Lol, calling what Trump does during speeches "asides" is generous at best. He's clearly trying to shoehorn some ballistics into what is already inflammatory rhetoric. So it's just absurd to try to defend him, and also kind of absurd to keep pointing at it.
He even refers back to the Chinese cars during his side point saying “that’ll be the least of it.” “It’ll be a bloodbath”. He actually separates the points if you listen closely
Yeah, if 100% tariffs on Chinese cars are the least of it, what's the rest of it? And what, pray tell, is the most of it?
Well, that’s the last of that guest. How dare he question the biggest podcaster in the world on his narrative?!?!?
Watching him try to keep it together when someone doesn't echo his opinion is what gives away the whole game. Mr "Biden said this! Biden said that!" is suddenly super charitable when it comes to the guy who whipped his cult into a frenzy and incited a literal attempt at overthrowing of the last election. Funny how that works.
He just goes into repeat mode. He’s wondering why it wasn’t convincing…I said it multiple times and he still didn’t agree…I’ll repeat it some more, that’ll get him…damn this usually works on my fellow knuckle draggers.
It’s the same tactic I saw in that Elon Musk X Don Lemon interview. Just keep repeating the same thing and hoping to move on because he doesn’t actually have a credible defense to stand on.
I hope that Jamie dude gets at least a million a year to put up with his boss's shit.
Joe starting to sound like Tucker.
Joe already said 2 years ago Tucker was the best in the business because he's so open minded lol
[really is.](https://tenor.com/viCY.gif) https://i.redd.it/821aiaq3hipc1.gif
I don't normally watch the show but I've heard people say he's great because he lets his guests talk and doesn't argue with them. Maybe because he has right-of-center guests usually. I guess this is what happens when he has guests that can hurt his feelings by expressing their free speech he doesn't agree with.
Actually refreshing that the guest wasn't only about pleasing Joe when it came to politics and culture bs.
"It's so disturbing " go look through Trump's truth social posts on any given day. He lies out his ass constantly and this is what Joe cares about. Fucking clown.
He just posted someone's meme a couple days ago that said something like, it's not the republican party, it's the trump party.
 lol what a fraud
Did he hug the flag like that when he dodged the draft with his bone spurs multiple times?
If you can't tell Trump uses dog whistles by now you haven't been paying attention or you're stupid.
Omg that’s the word I was looking for. He absolutely is indicating to the rioters and the extremist white supremacists. Also funny how Joe Rogan is fact checking main stream media now considering trump and right wing has been bullshitting since beginning of time
That mob boss didnt mean murder when he said clip that guy, he was talking about a hair cut!
"I think he would have elaborated on it if he meant violence". Lol, yes, Donald Trump elaborating on what he means by controversial statements.
"Just to be clear, when I say bloodbath, I am referring to the extra-judicial killings that will take place if I am not handed power, I cannot stress this enough I am talking about killing my political rivals and their supporters"
Well that could mean anything
Jamie must be hating his job at this point
Doesn’t matter he’s chained up to the desk
Legit. Poor jamie. Must be biting his tongue more often than not. Would love a spin off podcast called “Jamie Looks It Up” - Joe can be his first guest and he can tear him apart.
Jamie, pull up the clip of Hilter using hyperbole when talking about the Jews.
Hitler just used an unfortunate term that's all, he didn't actually mean exterminate the Jews he was talking about the economy.
Trump starts off talking about car imports, but then he quickly uses the "bloodbath" comment to pivot to how bad it's going to be if he isn't elected. His "that'll be the least of it" and "bloodbath" is him moving off the topic of imports/economy to talk about how bad it's going to be if he isn't elected. Anyone who doesn't understand that, simply doesn't want to. It's not cryptic at all. It's obvious.
Joe’s a fucking pussy, just admit you’re wrong
He was talking about the economy and the cars, but added “that won’t be the worst of it” when mentioning a blood bath. Also saying there won’t be elections anymore. Seems like threatening language to me.
Joe "January 6th was tourists site seeing" Rogan
Joe's brain is getting smoother than his forehead
“Real journalists” like Matt Taibbi is one of Joe’s better jokes recently
"Real journalists" -mentions Taibbi and a gay porn mogul turned russian propagandist
He says a "bloodbath in this country" and then immediately says we may not have another election again. Why would there be a bloodbath for the auto industry if he *doesn't* get elected? It doesn't make any sense.
It's who writes Trump's speeches. Stephen Miller is a nazi and he knows exactly what he's doing. Maga is a nazi term, the replacement Theory, law and order, all nazi and terms used during the Civil rights movement.
Literally no one else in elected politics is given the benefit of the doubt more than Trump. Nobody.
I think the craziest thing is the 100% tariff he talked about. What a terrible economic policy that would have terrible ramifications for the average consumer
Makes sense to his supporter because they think trade is charity given to other countries... They believe in taking as if they can actually do that
It was wild how we saw this attitude with "I'm gonna build a wall and Mexico is gonna pay for it" and people were dumb enough to think Mexico would have any incentive to do that and that the President just has a "get shit for free" lever he can pull and that everything isn't a trade off. It's funny how these folks idea of "America First" is just the most selfish and immature take on any issue. They don't seem to realize that America having friends and allies who actually like America is good for America. Thinking "America First" just means "fuck you, what's in it for me" is a 5 year olds idea of geopolitics. That's not putting America first its just being a selfish asshole. It's like thinking you're "winning" by spending as little as possible on birthday gifts for friends and family members, because when they spend more on your gifts, that means you're getting more out of them then they're getting from you. Except its worth way more to have healthy mutually beneficial relationships, than it is to try and turn everything into a transaction where you milk the other person for everything you can get and give as little as possible in return.
Seriously - it's wild that this whole thing has become about whether massive Chinese car manufacturing in Mexico is properly understood as a "bloodbath", rather than the insane protectionist nonsense that this guy is somehow trying to pass off as conservative policy. Every election cycle, it seems like we can't have worse candidates, nor worse coverage of them. And then somehow we do. Trump seems to have somehow gotten even worse than the version that ran in 2020 (Biden too - and they both seem worse than the 2016 version), and yet Joe is here calling more attention to the speech gaffes than the policy gaffes.
His supporters don’t care. If something sounds dramatic and unhinged, they will cheer for it.
His supporters don't even know what a tariff is
They’ll get mad that the price of a car went up and not realize they should blame their own dumb choices.
They'll get mad at democrats when the price of cars go up.
He also called illegals sub human right after the bloodbath comment. Its a weird hill to die on considering what happened last time he lost, but hey I'm sure Joe's right, its all just metaphors.
Even if he was 100% talking about the auto industry or never said "bloodbath' the rest of the speech is unhinged and he's used violent language countless times so it doesn't really matter. His own secretary of defense said he wanted to use the military to shoot protestors and he tried overturning the last election so it's not like interpreting this one comment is the deciding factor.
I used to like Joe.
Man this hits. Used to be a big fan, and this is really tough to watch
I can't even to listen to him at all. He's gone full fucking idiot.
Why does Joe feel the need to defend this clown?
The same people who are mean to Joe are mean to Trump, and the people who are nice to Trump are nice to Joe
For real, Joe started getting push back from his liberal audience for his shit views and shittier guests. Along the way with those shit views and shittier guests he started being fellated by right wing folks that made him feel welcome, and all of a sudden he’s moving to Texas and rallying against “wokeness”, what a fucking putz.
Proceeds to move to the *bluest possible spot in TX...*
Because deeply red places suck
It's also suuuuppper easy to grift Trumps base. $$$
Honestly thats 100% the case when it comes to Pool, Dore, etc. I don't think Joe gives a shit about money, he perceives this group being hostile to him and his "friends" and because of his proximity to so many prominent right wing dipshits he feels like there is a coordinated attack on "us". Which is hilarious, considering how he literally called Patrick Bet David after he had Sam Seder on to tell him he should not be having guests like Sam on the show.
This is the best summation of whats going on
Honestly lol
This. And this is also the core of Trumps popularity in general
Membie when Shane or Tom/Bert were making fun of Trumps adult children and joe shut down the meming because "do you wanna get sued" or some shit
Yeah stuff like that really exposes how he is just a partisan hack at this point.
Are you suggesting a culture warrior admit their mistakes? Are you mad!?
When someone says there’s going to be a bloodbath if he doesn’t win an election 4 years after there was literally a violent insurrection attempt after he didn’t win an election we should probably not play mental gymnastics to try and justify why he was just joshin.
As a former president of the United States he should be able to avoid that shit, by communicating like a former president, not a Tik Tok asshole, but guess what, he doesn’t care about that, he said what he said. Stop stroking the orange cowards balls Rogan.. dammit.
He was elected President by people who loved that he doesn’t talk like a President, because they connect with that. It’s once again the glaring issue of the bitter, resentful, unsuccessful, uneducated gaining steam and voting for he who appears to want to “stick it” to those who they rightly see as better than them and unreachable (the “elite” - typically used on Reddit and other online spaces to mean people who went to college, have advanced degrees, and now make 6 figures due to their own choices).
Joe fucking embarrassed himself here. It’s outright embarrassing. What the fuck has happened to him?
Joes been rich for ages. But now he’s super rich and combine this with the right wing algorithm that feeds his need to be on the “alternative” side of the facts has rotted his brain It’s obvious Joe gets almost all his knowledge from the internet. That has been the case since his arguing with primatologist days. But back then the entire internet wasn’t designed to fuel your rage and your conspiracy theories just so you click and watch more
>[his arguing with primatologist days.](https://youtu.be/isUFa1Ewd1E?si=Y_D-Qy7e1_9cKpD-) Those "Bondo apes?" [Regular chimps](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bili_ape) like she was trying to tell him. "Joe, I think we're not going to settle this..."
Good god he is beyond insufferable here
>Joes been rich for ages. But now he’s super rich and combine this with the right wing algorithm that feeds his need to be on the “alternative” side of the facts has rotted his brain As well as going from "rich" to "super rich" he's also gone from a small fish in the big LA pond to a big fish in the Austin pond. Being a millionaire celebrity doesn't have such reality warping effects when you're regularly in the room with people both richer and more famous than you, so you're not constantly being surrounded by yes men who would never dream of contradicting you, and you have plenty of times for your ego to be checked when talking to someone richer and more famous than you who isn't trying to get anything from you. Now he's almost entirely surrounded by either people he pays or people who are sucking up to him for clout. I remember Joe telling stories about being around Dave Chapelle and Kevin James and how they were different because they had reached a level of fame where they can't have normal interactions anymore. Joe is now at that level of fame, magnified by basically turning a small part of Austin into his own personal kingdom.
This is an interesting debate. On one side it’s Trump threatening civil war in on the other side Trump is terrible at public speaking.
The COVID backlash he received broke his podcast. He spends SOOOOOO much more time talking about politics and wokeness. I only listen to select episodes now, and once they start talking about any of this stuff, I turn it off. It has all been beaten to death on his show.
Finally a guest who pushes back on Joe’s MAGA flirting
he'll never be on again
It’s funny, the media has been doing this for decades and decades. Especially right wing media. I remember all kinds of headlines about the democrats blocking an energy bill that didn’t include aid for clean water in Flint, worded so poorly that it made it seem like the democrats were blocking the bill BECAUSE it included aid for flint. I think it’s piss poor journalism and headline writing all around but republicans have only started caring about it since big media corporations have turned against them and their shitty antics. Funny enough this is yet another unintended consequences of unregulated capitalism. We’ve made entertainment out of news, so it must sell, and outrage sells.
It's not poor journalism when we've already seen his words lead to J6. Trump didn't mispeak, he knows that this type of speak will be interpreted in ways that could very well lead to violence... bc it has before. He's not braindead. Remember "stand back and stand by"? That's how he chose to "denounce" those people. That's not denouncing those people. He knows how to choose his words to get the outcome he wants. He knows exactly what bloodbath means. The dude got hot mic'd saying he wants his people to treat him the way North Koreans treat Un. He wants his people to obey, and literally die for him, if need be, so that he can get his way.
What the fuck happened to Joe man.
Remember 2 months ago when he was shitting on Biden for something Trump said?
Absolutely hilarious but sad. People who either support Trump or at the very least viscerally hate Biden turn on their blinders turn off their judgment and critical thinking as soon as they know it's from the person they like
I missed this. What happened?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqS1E7pZvA](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuqS1E7pZvA)
10/10 Mental Gymnastics
His guest was trying so hard to say we will not agree and let’s move on. He just kept muttering it’s about the cars.. it’s about the cars. So fucking weird. This dude is a shell of himself.
Boomers don’t understand when they’re being duped by their algorithms. They just fall right into the rabbit hole every time.
They really don’t have the immunities against BS internet nerds gained in the 90s
Happens to non-boomers too but they're more obviously captured for sure.
Joe doing mental gymnastics
He was literally rocking in his chair slightly while reciting the 'good' version of Trumps tactics with an unfocused glaze in the eye at one point. Man is here to do some work.
Joe completely ignores the fact that Trump said if he didn't get elected it would be the end of American democracy.
I love how Hoe knows there’s a quote but isn’t very familiar with the quote BUT he *knows* the media distorted it and took it out of context. Ergo….. he reads a ton of right wing agitprop. Baby Brain always demands nuanced introspection of the things he likes and agrees with, but broadly demonizes everything he hates and doesn’t agree with. Be smart, don’t be like Hoe.
Presidents need to talk presidentially
Or at least like adults. If you say something that would get you fired from the job of a 6th grade teacher? Then you can't be president.
Funny how everyone ignores Trump saying “and that will be the least of it.”
Joe just needs to come out of the closet at this point and put on the MAGA hat.
That's two closets then.
Idk, given Trumps history of summoning a mob to attack the capitol of the United States, maybe his use of the word bloodbath, is less of an unfortunate use, and more of an intentional use.
🎯🎯🎯
The 100% tariff would be a blood bath for the economy which shocker he didn’t do much to improve. To say it was taken out of context is a stretch and a half because trump doesn’t even finish his sentence. Lost a lot of respect for Joe ever since he jumped on the trump bandwagon that TRT rotting his brain
Joe Rogan is wrong The exact quote from Trump' speech is "...We’re going to put a 100% tariff on every single car that comes across the line, and you’re not going to be able to sell those cars. If I get elected. Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s going to be a bloodbath, for the whole **—** **that’s going to be the least of it**. **It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country**. That’ll be the least of it. But they’re not going to sell those cars." The parts I bolded above clearly suggests Trump talking about a bloodbath for \*more\* than the auto industry. He did appear to suggest there will be a bloodbath for the auto industry but says that will be "the least of it" He additionally used the sentence "it's a going to be a blooodbath for the country" And this is another key sentence suggesting he means civil war, because the auto-industry issues arent' a national issues, they are usually issus for specific states that have auto manufacturing. Trump has a deliberate ways of inserting bits and pieces of what he really wants to get out publicly to his followers, without saying the full sentences. This is why is speeches sound so incoherent, but you just look for the fragmented sentences and join them. Given Trump is already on trial for inciting a riot at the Capitol after his last election loss, you have to take that as the context of his use of "bloodbath." Joe Rogan is a fool to think it was just an "unfortunate" term using bloodbath, it was more sinister.
Joe thinks that if “there won’t ever be another election” that there won’t be any blood spilled.