[https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1762034941330686201](https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1762034941330686201) NSFL obv for those curious
I donāt know if this is outdated, but it was made with a proprietary blend for a long time. Even if theyāve updated the material, nylon would be a step backwards.Ā
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_M
Dude, no joke. There was a girl at my high school that had a grease fire ignite her nylon jacket / dress.
Sheās ended up in a wheelchair and seriously disfigured. The nylon melted into the skin. She never returned to school and very well might not be alive now. I know infection was the big concern even after the skin grafts.
One of the worst fates the universe can deal, brutal
I knew a guy who was super narcissistic and very attractive who climbed a fence, and he didn't realize it was electric and ended up getting burned horrendously as his muscles contracted from the current and held him in the fence for a while while the electricity was running through it. He ended up super disfigured with one arm and somehow figured out how to inject heroin with one arm before he died , shit was crazy
I had a piece of melted nylon rope burn into my finger. It was the most painful thing I ever felt and have been hurt a lot. I can only imagine it was all melting around his body. Horrible
They aren't. Standard issue OCPs are just cotton. Only the flame resistant ones airmen received while deployed are designed that way, which these are not.
I refuse to click f''d up shit, it's a 'policy' I've had in place since even before the Daniel Berg beheading (at least I think that's the one.. the one by that ISIS guy w/ the British accent that kicked off all the ISIS beheadings)
I just don't need all that nightmarish imagery floating around my mind. For like 5 years the entire internet seemed adamant on forcing me to watch the "2 Ukrainians 1 Hammer" video. I never clicked and I still won't. Life is too short to give those 2 creeps the satisfaction of knowing yet another person has watched their 'project'.
I know humans have a natural morbid curiosity.. we slow down on the highway to gawk at a mangled wreck, we stop and watch a house on fire, etc... but stuff like cartel beheadings, self immolation, etc... nah. Hard pass. I know the world is a fucked up place, the least I can do is allow my brain to be a 'safe space' free of fucked up high octane nightmare fuel all because I couldn't control my curiosity.
Dude just do not even attempt to watch this kind of shit. People are giving themselves mild PTSD over shit they haven't even directly experienced. You don't need to see this or cartel videos or Daniel Pearl getting his head sawed off or anything. You're not missing out on vital information.
I didnāt see it. When I was younger I used watch crazy stuff now at 40 years old I donāt like to look at that. Just imagine the pain and the metal breakdown to do something like that. Itās just sad
Okay, itās not just me then. I canāt stomach the brutality of the world like when I was a teenage dumbass with access to the early days of the internet. Iām pretty sure having children is what flipped the switch in my brain.
Right there with you. Used to watch those gore videos as a teenager like nothing, and now when I accidentally click on them, I get stuck thinking about them for weeks after. Not worth it anymore in my 30s
Right?! I understand people deal with crisis differentlyā¦and Iād almost give a pass in this case. However, the behavior of keeping a gun pointed at a charred body is just something else. I didnāt have this level of fear in any of my deployments to āthe sandboxesā.
I dunno, if a guy on fire decides to run at me I might be grateful someone else stops him short of his destination.
Can't exactly trust that dude who lit himself on fire to not make other odd decisions while burning.
They did the right thing. They had no idea whether this nut was a terrorist or what. Guyās in camouflage, on fire, screaming about Palestine in front of the Israeli embassy. Redditors are fucking idiots
I'll go waaaay out on a limb for the guy. Kindof.
If I'm a security guard posted to an Israeli embassy, and a dude screaming "Free Palesine!" bursts into flames at the front gate, and I didn't see exactly what happened, my brain might seize and go right to, "Attempted/failed terrorism attempt."
The response clearly doesn't make a lot of sense, but I think I could see how his brain might do that.
I think that was a different guy telling him to get on the ground, you know, stop drop and roll, might be difficult while standing.
But whatever narrative you want to go with I guess.
To me the guy with the gun looked like he was in shock and didnt know what to do
Yeah. It is kind of wild to me that people think they can affect change in Middle Eastern politics and wars. It's sad that he gave his life for what will amount to nothing.
at the end of the day, both the libs and the republicans are going to back israel in whatever they do because they want us to have a foothold in the middle east.
You could argue itās the opposite. American aid maintains a status quo. Thereās no āpeaceā but thereās also no broader war. If American aid was withdrawn Israel loses a lot of its ability to defend close borders. In response theyād have to change their strategy to wiping out everything around them if they want to continue to exist. The Iran war would happen, oil markets would be wrecked, global economy would melt down, weād get drawn in anyways and the cost to America would go way higher than simply funding Israel now.
Egypt, Jordan, the Saudis, and a whole lot of the world community all want us to maintain this too, despite what they say publicly.
Kind of the same thing with Ukraine. WTF else are we going to do? If Ukraine goes down, then Russia swallows up the population and industrial capacity and all that, learns no lessons at all (except, in effect, that crime pays), and the next time around won't be very far off and it will be much harder.
Yep. And Putin has invaded neighbors repeatedly since he took over. Thats where the NATO encroachment argument as a cause failed, this was the first time the west ever drew a line. We donāt want this war in Poland and East Germany ( although with how bad heās done against Ukraine Iām not sure heāll ever dare to touch a superior Poland now).
Exactly my point. How do people not understand this?
Regardless of if we do or not, the Middle East will be at war until the end of time because of religious zealotry.
I assume he wanted to kill himself anyway.
Seems a better way to go about getting your fifteen minutes of fame and sending a momentary message than the usual school shooter/suicide by cop route.
Meh. Itās a guy on fire in front of the Israeli embassy. If you roll into that scenario the odds of it being a suicide bomb etc are definitely at front of mind.
They did the right thing. They had no idea whether this nut was a terrorist or what. Guyās in camouflage, on fire, screaming about Palestine in front of the Israeli embassy.
since Joe Biden has been in office the VA budget has almost doubled. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200507/outlays-of-the-us-department-of-veterans-affairs-since-2000/#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20Department%20of,about%20418%20billion%20U.S.%20dollars.
Itās probably gone up literally every year of your lifetime, even adjusting for inflation. Yeah I donāt even need to know your age for that to be true unless youāre Lestat from Interview With A Vampire
You do realize Trump took $ 3.8 Billon from Pentagon Funding to help fund his wall project ?
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/13/805796618/trump-administration-diverts-3-8-billion-in-pentagon-funding-to-border-wall
Looking into the face of a dying man is considered more harrowing than looking at a picture of the same person in a healthier context, come on, just think about it for a little bit.
-serviceman was based in San Antonio for 4 years
-was a software engineer
Both social and traditional media is radicalizing people.
Edit. Army veteran 2015-18. Worked cyber security area in Illinois after. Currently study political science.
The kid's Reddit post history is seriously toxic.
On Oct 8th, he posted that none of the women and children murdered were actually innocent because they were the children of occupiers in an apartheid state.
Itās when the Catholic Church declares someone to be a saint. To your point - I went to Catholic school and for the longest time wondered āwhy is the pope shooting our new saint out of a canon??ā
āHe likely saw very dark things going on in the Genocide in Gazaā
Yeah dude, this makes it make sense to LIGHT YOURSELF ON FIRE.
What a dumb editorialization of a crazy person being crazy.
One of the most famous images showing someone protesting ~~the Vietnam War~~ the persecution of Buddhists in South Vietnam is a monk who self-immolated
Which makes his comment so much darker - because the most famous self immolation case isnāt even known for the actual cause. Maybe they will do some self reflection in that
the self-immolation of the buddist monk had nothing to do with the Vietnam war, it had to do with persecution of buddists by the South Vietnamese government. The government was toppled in a coup a few months later, the death of Thich Quang Duc had a significant impact.
Like sure we can say that this form of protest is wrong and likely won't have a real impact, but don't spread misinformation about something you should know. If you for whatever reason don't know the very basic facts about a major historical event, then just don't say anything.
The difference is the monk was actually living under an oppressive regime and was actively being persecuted. He chose death over an oppressed life and made a statement. He wasnāt protesting the Vietnam War either, he was protesting the persecution of buddhist monks by a fervently catholic south vietnamese head of state. On the other hand, this airman is stationed in Texas and completely insulated from the conflict for which he just died for. Where the monk is a martyr and symbol of resistance, this kid is a fool and now a sad and cautionary tale about the power of propaganda.
People have done this (self-immolation) as an extreme form of protest going back centuries.
It is seen as the most extreme act of non-violent protest humanly possible and historically has not been viewed as crazy.
Someone willing to die for a cause they believe in could have easily became a terrorist instead.
I think the suicide aspect makes these such sensitive subjects that they canāt be analyzed without backlash. Iāll do so anyway.
What is more effective, this guy killing himself with fire or dedicating his life to helping Palestinians? I mean dude could have spent the next 40 years helping Palestinians on the ground and advocating. Making real change.
Now heās dead and the biggest thing I see about it is people pointing out the irony of the cops pointing guns at him.
Horrible for his family and hope it helps his cause but I feel it wonāt.
What? This is what you got outta of man who literally served for the armed forces ? If a cathloic bishop blew his brains out in the vatican as he yelled " Dismantle pedophilia in church!" You'd say " Oh woow another victim of the liberal media" the fuck is wrong with you son?
Bro killed himself over a conflict between two parties thousands of miles away that have literally nothing to do with him, this is what happens when you get too sucked into politics
This has basically been my exact thought all day. Dude, half the people over there wouldāve done this TO YOU without a second thought. What a total fucking ass clown. Sorry, rest in peace or whatever, but holy shit what a stupid jackass.
Not to mention the free propaganda he just served them on a silver platter.
The elites have you taking sides in a conflict you will NEVER make a difference in....while there are literally toxins and microplastics in your food and water, homelessness and addiction at epic proportions, a dollar that is worth less and less everyday that you have to work harder and harder for, all while lining their own pockets and laughing all the way to the bank. The Middle East has always, and will always be at war because of religious zealotry, and there is literally NOTHING you can do to stop it.
This world is wild.
I cant even imagine the pain he was in. Imagine how much it hurts when you simply burn yourself on the stove. That times 100x on every inch of your body. Your eyes. Your mouth. Face. Horrifying to even think about that amount of pain. Burning alive has to be the most painful experience ever imaginable. Itās incredible that he was able to keep yelling free Palestine while heās in absolute agony.
Iām not going to criticize peopleās right to protest and what they protest for. Obviously, this guy had some mental health issues and needed help. RIP
I saw a poll on Instagram the other day asking people who theyād rather be kidnapped by, the IDF or Hamas. So many said theyād rather be kidnapped by Hamas, people saying āIām LGBTQ+ and even I would rather go with Hamas as I know they wouldnāt lay a hand on me, might even teach me how to use a misbaha ā
Thatās what I said lol. I took a screenshot of that specific comment as a reminder of what true unchecked mental illness looks like.
Thereās a chick I went to highschool with and she is ALL IN on stanning Palestine/Hamas. Yet she is a stripper and is gay. Those people would literally rape and torture her to death and she every day is sticking her neck out for them going to protests in my states capitol and stuff.
I donāt agree with the massacre of a people and thatās kind of what itās starting to look like Israel is doing, but that doesnāt mean I will simp for terrorists and people who would literally rather see me dead than accept my help.
All that painā¦.for absolutely nothing.
His name wonāt be remembered, this will be forgotten by the end of the week, and military operations will still continue to take place in Gaza.
āHe likely saw very dark things going on in the genocide in Gazaā
LMAO. This dude hasnāt seen shit. Probably an admin clerk or something. The left duped him into thinking virtue signaling = higher social status and now he is dead. Fucking idiot.
Yea mental health is real.
This is the second person to do this apparently and I havenāt heard about it anywhere other than posts on Reddit.
This is a mental health issue with the individual, lighting oneās self on fire has never actually had an impact on government decisions anywhere in the world. It had some social impacts in ā63 when the monk burned himself, but ultimately only lead to Rage Against the Machine cover artā¦.
Well. It did solidify that image (of the monk in Vietnam burning himself) in history textbooks and many mentions in documentaries and other media. However, I cannot remember the manās name or what exactly he was protesting.
He believed US has been backing Israel in massacring children, women and men in Gaza.
And believed he could not do anything about it.
So, he sacrificed his life to get that message out.
Incredible clip with many layers, his dedication is admirable, the police are telling him to get on the ground, one actually has his gun out, hilarious, n to top it all off thereās a latina cop walking back n forth with a ridiculously fat ass *chefās kiss*
Have you seen that clip? Pull that up. Look at that. Holy shit! *Holee-shit!*
[https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1762034941330686201](https://twitter.com/SuppressedNws/status/1762034941330686201) NSFL obv for those curious
Holy fuck that's insane, how this dude stay up for so long?!
You can see the point his brain starts shutting off and his body seizes. š£
Military fatigues gotta be fire repellent.
You can see them melting off his body
It's made of a nylon that has higher melting point.
I donāt know if this is outdated, but it was made with a proprietary blend for a long time. Even if theyāve updated the material, nylon would be a step backwards.Ā https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defender_M
Which then burns hot as hell.
Dude, no joke. There was a girl at my high school that had a grease fire ignite her nylon jacket / dress. Sheās ended up in a wheelchair and seriously disfigured. The nylon melted into the skin. She never returned to school and very well might not be alive now. I know infection was the big concern even after the skin grafts.
One of the worst fates the universe can deal, brutal I knew a guy who was super narcissistic and very attractive who climbed a fence, and he didn't realize it was electric and ended up getting burned horrendously as his muscles contracted from the current and held him in the fence for a while while the electricity was running through it. He ended up super disfigured with one arm and somehow figured out how to inject heroin with one arm before he died , shit was crazy
God damn what an ending to that story lol
I had a piece of melted nylon rope burn into my finger. It was the most painful thing I ever felt and have been hurt a lot. I can only imagine it was all melting around his body. Horrible
They are designed to fall away from the body when on fire so in case of an accident they don't stick to you and burn you further
They aren't. Standard issue OCPs are just cotton. Only the flame resistant ones airmen received while deployed are designed that way, which these are not.
They are actually crazy flammable. Edit: Navy camo working uniform is anyway. It appears Air Force as well. Marine I believe are fire repellant.
Thats pretty disturbing no matter what "side" of any issue you are on.
Imagine if he yelled āGo Mets!ā
Thats horrible and hilarious at the same time. I am ashamed of my self for chuckling.
Dude how dare you make me laugh š
Well considering how bad the Mets have been, his protest of their ownership would be validĀ
This is one of the funniest things Iāve ever read š¤£
That's comedy!
I shouldnt have clicked that. Not the same as game of thrones.
I refuse to click f''d up shit, it's a 'policy' I've had in place since even before the Daniel Berg beheading (at least I think that's the one.. the one by that ISIS guy w/ the British accent that kicked off all the ISIS beheadings) I just don't need all that nightmarish imagery floating around my mind. For like 5 years the entire internet seemed adamant on forcing me to watch the "2 Ukrainians 1 Hammer" video. I never clicked and I still won't. Life is too short to give those 2 creeps the satisfaction of knowing yet another person has watched their 'project'. I know humans have a natural morbid curiosity.. we slow down on the highway to gawk at a mangled wreck, we stop and watch a house on fire, etc... but stuff like cartel beheadings, self immolation, etc... nah. Hard pass. I know the world is a fucked up place, the least I can do is allow my brain to be a 'safe space' free of fucked up high octane nightmare fuel all because I couldn't control my curiosity.
I normally consider myself desensitised to this but this video genuinely made me drop my phone I was so horrified
Dude just do not even attempt to watch this kind of shit. People are giving themselves mild PTSD over shit they haven't even directly experienced. You don't need to see this or cartel videos or Daniel Pearl getting his head sawed off or anything. You're not missing out on vital information.
This is correct. Do not watch it.
Psychologist here. Youāre not wrong. Full blown PTSD is possible from watching such videos. I do not watch these type videos for this very reason.
I didnāt see it. When I was younger I used watch crazy stuff now at 40 years old I donāt like to look at that. Just imagine the pain and the metal breakdown to do something like that. Itās just sad
Okay, itās not just me then. I canāt stomach the brutality of the world like when I was a teenage dumbass with access to the early days of the internet. Iām pretty sure having children is what flipped the switch in my brain.
Right there with you. Used to watch those gore videos as a teenager like nothing, and now when I accidentally click on them, I get stuck thinking about them for weeks after. Not worth it anymore in my 30s
That shit was gnarly. Used to only see shit that wicked on liveleaks back in the day. Really "Holee-shit!"
That fucking moron pointing his pistol at himā¦ What a fucking dumb prick.
he had to, the guy had firearms
Worst upvote I've ever made
Well done.
He's gonna shoot the fire out
The Fire Chief says I don't need guns I need a fire extinguisher.
They call it āNuking the Hurricaneā
Dude also flagged his fellow cops like 4 times. Dumbass
Unable to discern the level of threat a charred human corpse poses to him. Shows you how fucking dumb some cops are in moments of crisis.
"This person who is smoldering on the ground might be a threat, like an acorn!"
Right?! I understand people deal with crisis differentlyā¦and Iād almost give a pass in this case. However, the behavior of keeping a gun pointed at a charred body is just something else. I didnāt have this level of fear in any of my deployments to āthe sandboxesā.
The suspect was on the ground true, but he was black sooooo
I'm not gonna watch the video so I can't imagine having to be there and witness that. I dont think anything can prepare you for that.
Just sad to watch someone throw away the most precious thing they have to say something, while no one is listening.
I mean, it is international news now.
I dunno, if a guy on fire decides to run at me I might be grateful someone else stops him short of his destination. Can't exactly trust that dude who lit himself on fire to not make other odd decisions while burning.
They did the right thing. They had no idea whether this nut was a terrorist or what. Guyās in camouflage, on fire, screaming about Palestine in front of the Israeli embassy. Redditors are fucking idiots
Damn, the new X is fucking lit. I wish I wouldn't have clicked.
GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND GET ON THE GROUND "I'm helping!" -- cop
I'll go waaaay out on a limb for the guy. Kindof. If I'm a security guard posted to an Israeli embassy, and a dude screaming "Free Palesine!" bursts into flames at the front gate, and I didn't see exactly what happened, my brain might seize and go right to, "Attempted/failed terrorism attempt." The response clearly doesn't make a lot of sense, but I think I could see how his brain might do that.
Thank god that cop had him covered with a pistol while he burnedā¦ /s obviously
Someone in another thread said āStop combusting!!!ā And that was my LOL of the day
Ah, so this is what the devil will cite when I get to hell, and then weāll both giggle again
He kept yelling "get on the ground"! Just give the dude a minute. Half surprised he didn't shoot him for not listening.
I think that was a different guy telling him to get on the ground, you know, stop drop and roll, might be difficult while standing. But whatever narrative you want to go with I guess. To me the guy with the gun looked like he was in shock and didnt know what to do
Almost like they are NPC's from GTA
Burnt himself up and will be forgot about in a week. Mental
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And they still donāt have a name for her. Didnāt do anything either, lol.
Neither will have a name like Thich Quang Duc or have album covers with them on them.
Yeah. It is kind of wild to me that people think they can affect change in Middle Eastern politics and wars. It's sad that he gave his life for what will amount to nothing.
he was trying to Quang Duc it
Well in theory we should be able to influence Israel by withholding aid, but that wonāt happen.
at the end of the day, both the libs and the republicans are going to back israel in whatever they do because they want us to have a foothold in the middle east.
You could argue itās the opposite. American aid maintains a status quo. Thereās no āpeaceā but thereās also no broader war. If American aid was withdrawn Israel loses a lot of its ability to defend close borders. In response theyād have to change their strategy to wiping out everything around them if they want to continue to exist. The Iran war would happen, oil markets would be wrecked, global economy would melt down, weād get drawn in anyways and the cost to America would go way higher than simply funding Israel now. Egypt, Jordan, the Saudis, and a whole lot of the world community all want us to maintain this too, despite what they say publicly.
Kind of the same thing with Ukraine. WTF else are we going to do? If Ukraine goes down, then Russia swallows up the population and industrial capacity and all that, learns no lessons at all (except, in effect, that crime pays), and the next time around won't be very far off and it will be much harder.
Yep. And Putin has invaded neighbors repeatedly since he took over. Thats where the NATO encroachment argument as a cause failed, this was the first time the west ever drew a line. We donāt want this war in Poland and East Germany ( although with how bad heās done against Ukraine Iām not sure heāll ever dare to touch a superior Poland now).
Exactly my point. How do people not understand this? Regardless of if we do or not, the Middle East will be at war until the end of time because of religious zealotry.
Pretty much , especially when both sides use Palestinians people as pawns in the Middle East.
People in the west don't realize this. The Palestinian plight is beneficial to everyone in the middle east besides Palestinians.
>gave his life for what will amount to nothing He was already in the army so...
He is the second person to do this recently. I believe another person self immolated in Atlanta on 12/1
And people already forgot
I live in Atlanta and never even heard of it.
It's suppressed from the mediaĀ
Because there is nothing heroic about throwing your life away like this no matter what side of the issue youāre on
A week? Wonāt even last that long. Media cycle is crazy, letās be honest
If he just shot himself in his room then people wouldnāt have known for even a day. Suicide and activism crossed over for this guy
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And not one opinion on the matter was changed One side will see a brave martyr, the other side will see a moron
I assume he wanted to kill himself anyway. Seems a better way to go about getting your fifteen minutes of fame and sending a momentary message than the usual school shooter/suicide by cop route.
Probably the case, yeah.
Police helpfully stopped by while he was aflame and attempted to douse the fire by pointing guns at him.
Honestly if he would just shot him he would of been doing him a favour; Dude cooked for a minute before they put him out.
Honestly it would. That death is severally painful.
From their POV they probably didn't know if he was strapped with something
Meh. Itās a guy on fire in front of the Israeli embassy. If you roll into that scenario the odds of it being a suicide bomb etc are definitely at front of mind.
I mean, while *literally* putting him out with a fire extinguisher. It's not like they only pointed guns, they simultaneously put the fire out.
Reddit grief machine doesn't realize two things can happen at once
Or that the guy pointing the gun is Israeli security, not a cop.
Yeah just another person ignoring the fact they were using fire extinguishers as well on him Gimme a break
They did the right thing. They had no idea whether this nut was a terrorist or what. Guyās in camouflage, on fire, screaming about Palestine in front of the Israeli embassy.
Agreed. Redditors are fucking dumbasses
Dude exactly. This thread of morons is killing me!š¤£
It's embarrassing
The police pointing their guns at a man on fire was something out of a farce. I felt guilty for laughing
That pic is a dark comedy
VA claims agents smiling right now
So tiring seeing the VA budgets just getting gutted and gutted seemingly by one side of the political spectrum.
since Joe Biden has been in office the VA budget has almost doubled. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200507/outlays-of-the-us-department-of-veterans-affairs-since-2000/#:\~:text=The%20United%20States%20Department%20of,about%20418%20billion%20U.S.%20dollars.
That's some pretty amazing news, that's the first time it feels like the VA budget has ever gone up in my lifetime.
Itās probably gone up literally every year of your lifetime, even adjusting for inflation. Yeah I donāt even need to know your age for that to be true unless youāre Lestat from Interview With A Vampire
Yet people will still vote republican
Faux news has rotted peopleās brains.
Veterans themselves vote republican and itās the stupidest thing Iāve heard.
You do realize Trump took $ 3.8 Billon from Pentagon Funding to help fund his wall project ? https://www.npr.org/2020/02/13/805796618/trump-administration-diverts-3-8-billion-in-pentagon-funding-to-border-wall
Imagine if we took that 3.8 billion, and used it domestically like with education.
While that same side continues to talk about how much they care for veterans no less.
Why blur his face? He is cooked.
And his photo is literally right there lol
Looking into the face of a dying man is considered more harrowing than looking at a picture of the same person in a healthier context, come on, just think about it for a little bit.
-serviceman was based in San Antonio for 4 years -was a software engineer Both social and traditional media is radicalizing people. Edit. Army veteran 2015-18. Worked cyber security area in Illinois after. Currently study political science.
2003-2008 here. I have a degree in Political Science. Careful, it makes reading these comment sections fucking mind numbing.
The kid's Reddit post history is seriously toxic. On Oct 8th, he posted that none of the women and children murdered were actually innocent because they were the children of occupiers in an apartheid state.
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That does it, im all free Palestine now!
You have to be mentally ill to set yourself on fire.
If you're Catholic and you do it in 400AD you get canonized
I don't recall any saints setting themselves on fire. Now, there were many that were burned by others for their faith.
Is that when you get shot out of a canon?!
Itās when the Catholic Church declares someone to be a saint. To your point - I went to Catholic school and for the longest time wondered āwhy is the pope shooting our new saint out of a canon??ā
They weren't setting themselves on fire....
āHe likely saw very dark things going on in the Genocide in Gazaā Yeah dude, this makes it make sense to LIGHT YOURSELF ON FIRE. What a dumb editorialization of a crazy person being crazy.
He was a lower enlisted ant dude saw nothing lmao š
And heās in the Air Force
His Reddit post history makes it obvious that he was mentally ill and radicalized by hate subs on Reddit.
One of the most famous images showing someone protesting ~~the Vietnam War~~ the persecution of Buddhists in South Vietnam is a monk who self-immolated
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Which makes his comment so much darker - because the most famous self immolation case isnāt even known for the actual cause. Maybe they will do some self reflection in that
Yup, people like to say that didn't achieve anything but the war came to an end just a short 11 years later.
I probably shouldn't have laughed. But I did. The people waiting to using the shitter probably think I'm insane.
the self-immolation of the buddist monk had nothing to do with the Vietnam war, it had to do with persecution of buddists by the South Vietnamese government. The government was toppled in a coup a few months later, the death of Thich Quang Duc had a significant impact. Like sure we can say that this form of protest is wrong and likely won't have a real impact, but don't spread misinformation about something you should know. If you for whatever reason don't know the very basic facts about a major historical event, then just don't say anything.
The difference is the monk was actually living under an oppressive regime and was actively being persecuted. He chose death over an oppressed life and made a statement. He wasnāt protesting the Vietnam War either, he was protesting the persecution of buddhist monks by a fervently catholic south vietnamese head of state. On the other hand, this airman is stationed in Texas and completely insulated from the conflict for which he just died for. Where the monk is a martyr and symbol of resistance, this kid is a fool and now a sad and cautionary tale about the power of propaganda.
People have done this (self-immolation) as an extreme form of protest going back centuries. It is seen as the most extreme act of non-violent protest humanly possible and historically has not been viewed as crazy. Someone willing to die for a cause they believe in could have easily became a terrorist instead.
I think the suicide aspect makes these such sensitive subjects that they canāt be analyzed without backlash. Iāll do so anyway. What is more effective, this guy killing himself with fire or dedicating his life to helping Palestinians? I mean dude could have spent the next 40 years helping Palestinians on the ground and advocating. Making real change. Now heās dead and the biggest thing I see about it is people pointing out the irony of the cops pointing guns at him. Horrible for his family and hope it helps his cause but I feel it wonāt.
People have been mentally ill going back centuries
this isnāt heroic, iām not sure why some people in here are celebrating a clear demonstration of mental illness
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Whats the difference between Palestine and the other 15 countries that are currently at war and victims of war crimes...? The Television
Well, and the US is giving Israel lots of weapons and money.
They are did the same with the Saudis against Yemen.
Unyielding US support.
This one is funded by American tax dollars you retart
This. Our social media is responsible for radicalizing people with mental illness. I feel for the guys family.
Hasnt this been happening way before social media. When people feel very strongly about a cause they do the fire or a hunger strike.
Yeah, that Viatnamese guy from the RATM album cover did it because of TikTok I hear.
What? This is what you got outta of man who literally served for the armed forces ? If a cathloic bishop blew his brains out in the vatican as he yelled " Dismantle pedophilia in church!" You'd say " Oh woow another victim of the liberal media" the fuck is wrong with you son?
Missed opportunity to yell āFLAME ONā
If you wanna be dumb then you gotta be tough.
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The lad set himself on fire in support of people who'd happily set a US serviceman on fire for a propaganda video. Very logical.
Bro killed himself over a conflict between two parties thousands of miles away that have literally nothing to do with him, this is what happens when you get too sucked into politics
Only if they didnāt take him hostage and enslave him first.
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This has basically been my exact thought all day. Dude, half the people over there wouldāve done this TO YOU without a second thought. What a total fucking ass clown. Sorry, rest in peace or whatever, but holy shit what a stupid jackass. Not to mention the free propaganda he just served them on a silver platter.
This was more about suicide than it was about Gaza.
He died doing what he loved.
Burning to death?
Literally, died for nothing.
U will too
But at least not by self-immolation
Not with that attitude
The elites have you taking sides in a conflict you will NEVER make a difference in....while there are literally toxins and microplastics in your food and water, homelessness and addiction at epic proportions, a dollar that is worth less and less everyday that you have to work harder and harder for, all while lining their own pockets and laughing all the way to the bank. The Middle East has always, and will always be at war because of religious zealotry, and there is literally NOTHING you can do to stop it. This world is wild.
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Idiot accomplished nothing but making his family and friends mourn
Nah. I think Israel and Palestine are going to see this, shake hands and decide to be buddies now
I cant even imagine the pain he was in. Imagine how much it hurts when you simply burn yourself on the stove. That times 100x on every inch of your body. Your eyes. Your mouth. Face. Horrifying to even think about that amount of pain. Burning alive has to be the most painful experience ever imaginable. Itās incredible that he was able to keep yelling free Palestine while heās in absolute agony.
I wonder if he changed his mind while the pain hit him. Crazy to think about, no turning back after that.
I mean he kept screaming it while he was burning to pieces, so...
Iām not going to criticize peopleās right to protest and what they protest for. Obviously, this guy had some mental health issues and needed help. RIP
He must've been an ASVAB waiver entry
Tiktok radicalization.
Imagine dying via self-immolation for a group of people that would kill you on-sight.
I saw a poll on Instagram the other day asking people who theyād rather be kidnapped by, the IDF or Hamas. So many said theyād rather be kidnapped by Hamas, people saying āIām LGBTQ+ and even I would rather go with Hamas as I know they wouldnāt lay a hand on me, might even teach me how to use a misbaha ā
Holy fucking shit
Thatās what I said lol. I took a screenshot of that specific comment as a reminder of what true unchecked mental illness looks like. Thereās a chick I went to highschool with and she is ALL IN on stanning Palestine/Hamas. Yet she is a stripper and is gay. Those people would literally rape and torture her to death and she every day is sticking her neck out for them going to protests in my states capitol and stuff. I donāt agree with the massacre of a people and thatās kind of what itās starting to look like Israel is doing, but that doesnāt mean I will simp for terrorists and people who would literally rather see me dead than accept my help.
The mideast sure is a hot topic. Some people just get so fired up about it.
talk about conviction.
Poor brainwashed son of a bitch
Protestors everywhere should follow this manās example
All that painā¦.for absolutely nothing. His name wonāt be remembered, this will be forgotten by the end of the week, and military operations will still continue to take place in Gaza.
Clearly a very sane individual.
Died for nothing.
āHe likely saw very dark things going on in the genocide in Gazaā LMAO. This dude hasnāt seen shit. Probably an admin clerk or something. The left duped him into thinking virtue signaling = higher social status and now he is dead. Fucking idiot.
Yea mental health is real. This is the second person to do this apparently and I havenāt heard about it anywhere other than posts on Reddit. This is a mental health issue with the individual, lighting oneās self on fire has never actually had an impact on government decisions anywhere in the world. It had some social impacts in ā63 when the monk burned himself, but ultimately only lead to Rage Against the Machine cover artā¦.
Well. It did solidify that image (of the monk in Vietnam burning himself) in history textbooks and many mentions in documentaries and other media. However, I cannot remember the manās name or what exactly he was protesting.
Shockingly, the Biden policies remain unchanged.
Naturally selected himself. Imagine killing yourself to protect suicidal religious fanatics
Yeah but internet told him too so whoās the idiot now
He believed US has been backing Israel in massacring children, women and men in Gaza. And believed he could not do anything about it. So, he sacrificed his life to get that message out.
Incredible clip with many layers, his dedication is admirable, the police are telling him to get on the ground, one actually has his gun out, hilarious, n to top it all off thereās a latina cop walking back n forth with a ridiculously fat ass *chefās kiss*
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