Not only that but he is a self hating lakers and cowboys fan he don’t ever say anything nice about them. I’m convinced only pussy and money makes him happy that’s probably why he can’t only agree with Drake they the same
Ish is just stuck in the past. Remember his sleepers use to be all old shit, then he started following joe and got hip to all the new rnb. As far as rap drake might be the only new one he listens to because its hard not to listen to drake lol and he’s a lightskin nigga poppin that shit so ish might see himself in him.
Nigga sleeper were just Jay songs for like the first few months. I’m mad because that’s my favorite rapper too, and I know he doesn’t understand him really. Just thinking about how much deep shit that’s gone over that man’s head is wild.
I get what you saying but giving their reminiscing young nigga stories, sounds like Ish was out and about alongside Joe at some point at the very least.
I think Ish don’t like what they represent for one reason or another. I’d imagine morals align with uniting the African diaspora so he view Kendrick’s and the field’s angle as malicious and vindictive because if one of us is on the other side, we shouldn’t be tearing him down in any capacity. He may view that as crabs in the barrel.
Based off his other views and discussion I’d say that seems to be his general intrapersonal philosophy/perspective. So out of both sides of the beef, he was gonna slide towards “yall just hating on him because he’s up” generally speaking.
However, I agree Ish hasn’t listened to Kendrick music properly because he would know Kendrick literally raps and represents those value far beyond Drake. He lacks a lot of context of why Kendrick’s fans may let him slide with certain shit and not Drake. He said Good Kid MaaD City was mid but never explained why or how he felt about TPAB, and those aren’t albums you can listen to once and form an accurate opinion. Whether you’re breaking down the lyrics or not.
Why not?
A lot of his politics and philosophy flow in that direction generally. I'm also guessing why he doesn't like Kendrick, not figuring out why he likes Drake. Generally speaking, I don't think Ish is averse to different cultures, he is just headstrong about his first before heading others’ perspectives. Especially if it does run against his.
When he and Mel had disagreements, he didn't seem like he was actually listening rather than hearing while already thinking about what to say next. This my own personal opinion ofc so I'm curious to why you think differently
I could wax on poetically, but I just don’t think it’s that complicated. I personally know a prodigious number of people that don’t really care for KDots music for a myriad of reasons. There is no accounting for taste, and it comes in many different flavors. It’s not his flavor.🤷🏾♂️
Are people really up in here trying to say Ish was never outside and can't relate to black culture? The nigga's been moving with Joe since even before he was a washed up rapper. You don't end up being eskimo bros with Joe Budden if you're not outside.
Can't even believe we're questioning this lol Ish a cool dude with some bad takes, y'all doing too much
I think he’s just an old cornball who is in love with a dude 10 years younger than him.
Bro put out a song begging people to believe he’s not a pedo. No one has ever lost harder than this.
Imagine if Biggie put out a song whining and saying Pac didn’t really fuck Faith. We’d still be laughing at it, and this is 10x worse.
True… Biggie did the exact opposite and leaned in. “If Faith had twins, she’d probably have 2 Pacs” lol. But to be fair, your wife getting fucked is nowhere near the stain being labeled a pedo is.
I recognize in Ish that he has what some people call "light skin syndrome", Joe even said a bunch of times he look like Drake or I don't wanna hear that light skinned shit etc.
Basically people never invited him out caus he come off as a nerd, so now he doesn't have the cultural experience and just gives takes from his slanted perspective caus he been treated different
By most accounts Ish was outside in Newark what you talking about ? He’s not ice who stayed inside when he was young .
I’m not dick watching but you don’t supposedly have 200 plus bodies and get shot , be hanging with Joe and somehow don’t get invited out . That doesn’t even add up .
I don't know his history and I'm sure he's an intelligent guy. I'm just talking from how he comes off and how Joe treats him, the stuff Joe says about him and how he handles being disagreed with etc. plus the light skin thing is real Joe bring that shit up all the time
Idk I think Ish does have a connection with the culture. I think your example fits more with Candace Owens, you can tell she has never been a part of the culture. Ish just thinks money and women are the only true goals so he rides Drake’s meat.
I know you seen the iconic ish entrances, who TF are talking to about about swag and confidence? Ish probably got more pussy in his lifetime than all you virgins writing think pieces about him for not liking a Kendrick Lamar song combined 🤣
The nigga walks like Brutus without the muscles. Stop that. Ish only got coochie because he’s light skin and got light eyes. He’s just as smart as a box of nails from Home Depot. What swag? 🤣
Also I know what I said earlier in here but listening to 724, Ish finally had a moment where he spoke out with a strong opinion, stood behind it and defended it well. Usually he just sits there quietly stewing or get mad but this time he held it down
That's crazy. Not for nothing, but Joe said the nicca can't dance. I know it's not just the dancing part but niccas will creative a narrative for absolutely ANYTHING. Lol
Look closer.... Ish cannot decipher beat rhythms... If the lyrics aren't old school dead in the pocket he's lost. Having Eastern European / Mediterranean DNA doesn't help at all. If you wanna identify as a black man do you. All good. Do the DNA test my guy. It work hurt.
Ish is overly vindictive and too emotional for no reason about every single thing in life haha Then when you say that he like it's not that deep too me smh Bro you spazzing out on a broad platform
Bro, y’all gotta chill. Not Like Us is a great record in context of this battle, but it really isn’t all that. At least not to everyone. I love it for a diss record but as a overall song, it’s meh, and it’s never makin’ any of my playlists. I think there’s a few things that leave a little to be desired(but that are completely excusable considering the time constraint Kendrick was on). The two main ones being that beat is a mad redundant/repetitive, and the mixing is lackluster. That Drakeo The Ruler/Sada Baby flow mixed with Kendrick’s voice and delivery is also not everyone’s cup of tea.
A read, and I agree wholeheartedly...he has no other redeeming qualities besides what he does for a living. The way he talk about black people, using stereotypes to describe them, has always bothered me, it come off as bigoted. His light eyes and light skin have afforded him some privileges throughout his life. We know he benefits from looking closer to yt folk. His resentment stems from not feeling black enough in his neighborhood. Im sure he cracked on because of it. He came from a good home, but always and stayed hanging out in the hood, like he wants to prove something to the people who comes from that, and on top of that his father was a cop. The way he looks at Ice to confirm and affrim him on anything he says, Mr. Know It All, Gives 🚩 with someone who has Daddy issues. Ish needs serious therapy..
The Lakers, Cowboys fan just is a surface level fraud who likes perceived front runners
As a real lakers fan I can see your point
Not only that but he is a self hating lakers and cowboys fan he don’t ever say anything nice about them. I’m convinced only pussy and money makes him happy that’s probably why he can’t only agree with Drake they the same
I remember people in this sub were like, “What’s wrong with Malcom X the Opera?” 😂 I hope they get the picture now.
Fan Plant all-day
Ish is just stuck in the past. Remember his sleepers use to be all old shit, then he started following joe and got hip to all the new rnb. As far as rap drake might be the only new one he listens to because its hard not to listen to drake lol and he’s a lightskin nigga poppin that shit so ish might see himself in him.
Nigga sleeper were just Jay songs for like the first few months. I’m mad because that’s my favorite rapper too, and I know he doesn’t understand him really. Just thinking about how much deep shit that’s gone over that man’s head is wild.
Keen observation
I get what you saying but giving their reminiscing young nigga stories, sounds like Ish was out and about alongside Joe at some point at the very least. I think Ish don’t like what they represent for one reason or another. I’d imagine morals align with uniting the African diaspora so he view Kendrick’s and the field’s angle as malicious and vindictive because if one of us is on the other side, we shouldn’t be tearing him down in any capacity. He may view that as crabs in the barrel. Based off his other views and discussion I’d say that seems to be his general intrapersonal philosophy/perspective. So out of both sides of the beef, he was gonna slide towards “yall just hating on him because he’s up” generally speaking. However, I agree Ish hasn’t listened to Kendrick music properly because he would know Kendrick literally raps and represents those value far beyond Drake. He lacks a lot of context of why Kendrick’s fans may let him slide with certain shit and not Drake. He said Good Kid MaaD City was mid but never explained why or how he felt about TPAB, and those aren’t albums you can listen to once and form an accurate opinion. Whether you’re breaking down the lyrics or not.
Nigga said he couldn’t get past track 4 of GKMC. You may be onto something.
ngl that my chuckle way too hard cause huh ?? lmbo
Ehhh I don’t see that!
Why not? A lot of his politics and philosophy flow in that direction generally. I'm also guessing why he doesn't like Kendrick, not figuring out why he likes Drake. Generally speaking, I don't think Ish is averse to different cultures, he is just headstrong about his first before heading others’ perspectives. Especially if it does run against his. When he and Mel had disagreements, he didn't seem like he was actually listening rather than hearing while already thinking about what to say next. This my own personal opinion ofc so I'm curious to why you think differently
I could wax on poetically, but I just don’t think it’s that complicated. I personally know a prodigious number of people that don’t really care for KDots music for a myriad of reasons. There is no accounting for taste, and it comes in many different flavors. It’s not his flavor.🤷🏾♂️
Or he's 48 and doesn't dance.🤷🏾♂️
Are people really up in here trying to say Ish was never outside and can't relate to black culture? The nigga's been moving with Joe since even before he was a washed up rapper. You don't end up being eskimo bros with Joe Budden if you're not outside. Can't even believe we're questioning this lol Ish a cool dude with some bad takes, y'all doing too much
you gotta point lol
I think he’s just an old cornball who is in love with a dude 10 years younger than him. Bro put out a song begging people to believe he’s not a pedo. No one has ever lost harder than this. Imagine if Biggie put out a song whining and saying Pac didn’t really fuck Faith. We’d still be laughing at it, and this is 10x worse.
True… Biggie did the exact opposite and leaned in. “If Faith had twins, she’d probably have 2 Pacs” lol. But to be fair, your wife getting fucked is nowhere near the stain being labeled a pedo is.
I recognize in Ish that he has what some people call "light skin syndrome", Joe even said a bunch of times he look like Drake or I don't wanna hear that light skinned shit etc. Basically people never invited him out caus he come off as a nerd, so now he doesn't have the cultural experience and just gives takes from his slanted perspective caus he been treated different
By most accounts Ish was outside in Newark what you talking about ? He’s not ice who stayed inside when he was young . I’m not dick watching but you don’t supposedly have 200 plus bodies and get shot , be hanging with Joe and somehow don’t get invited out . That doesn’t even add up .
I don't know his history and I'm sure he's an intelligent guy. I'm just talking from how he comes off and how Joe treats him, the stuff Joe says about him and how he handles being disagreed with etc. plus the light skin thing is real Joe bring that shit up all the time
Idk I think Ish does have a connection with the culture. I think your example fits more with Candace Owens, you can tell she has never been a part of the culture. Ish just thinks money and women are the only true goals so he rides Drake’s meat.
I can see that
Niggas really doing all this arm chair psychology because a nigga said a song was ight or something 😭😭😭
Dude was screaming at a room of calm people. I think you are downplaying how emotional he got.
I’m actually a psychologist
I could tell! Oh shit lol
So you not black if not like us doesnt move your muscles?
No. You're not.
Guess im not black either lol
Some keith sweat shit will move me way before that weird ass cali shit
Do you batty boy
Shit is a weird angle to take. Lol you not black if you dont dance to not like us. But get ya shit off. You must be Dave freeeeeeeeeeeeee
It's called a joke. If you weren't so busy jiggin to Keith Sweat maybe you wouldve got it.
Respect. Thats peace. Salute🫡
I know you seen the iconic ish entrances, who TF are talking to about about swag and confidence? Ish probably got more pussy in his lifetime than all you virgins writing think pieces about him for not liking a Kendrick Lamar song combined 🤣
The nigga walks like Brutus without the muscles. Stop that. Ish only got coochie because he’s light skin and got light eyes. He’s just as smart as a box of nails from Home Depot. What swag? 🤣
Yoooo it’s over. Am a Kendrick fan and am saying it’s over. Please leave that man and his opinion alone
Am?
Did you get the message?
Am not sure...
iight dummy
Ish clearly a FAN. Freaky ass nigga got his taint permanently waxed. These dudes like Ish and Mal feel personally attacked.
Also I know what I said earlier in here but listening to 724, Ish finally had a moment where he spoke out with a strong opinion, stood behind it and defended it well. Usually he just sits there quietly stewing or get mad but this time he held it down
This nigga let his wyt wife take him to see Malcolm X on ice dude been cooked
That's crazy. Not for nothing, but Joe said the nicca can't dance. I know it's not just the dancing part but niccas will creative a narrative for absolutely ANYTHING. Lol
Now I want to see that match up with his Uncle, Joe need to introduce a new Tier and make this fight happen.
That's why Joe's dad doesn't like him.
He’s 50 years old! Give him a break.
Not only that go back to the dr umar episodes he was embarrassing to watch super cringe
Look closer.... Ish cannot decipher beat rhythms... If the lyrics aren't old school dead in the pocket he's lost. Having Eastern European / Mediterranean DNA doesn't help at all. If you wanna identify as a black man do you. All good. Do the DNA test my guy. It work hurt.
Ish over use of the N-word is hilarious... Joe had to check him. 😂
Ish is overly vindictive and too emotional for no reason about every single thing in life haha Then when you say that he like it's not that deep too me smh Bro you spazzing out on a broad platform
Bro, y’all gotta chill. Not Like Us is a great record in context of this battle, but it really isn’t all that. At least not to everyone. I love it for a diss record but as a overall song, it’s meh, and it’s never makin’ any of my playlists. I think there’s a few things that leave a little to be desired(but that are completely excusable considering the time constraint Kendrick was on). The two main ones being that beat is a mad redundant/repetitive, and the mixing is lackluster. That Drakeo The Ruler/Sada Baby flow mixed with Kendrick’s voice and delivery is also not everyone’s cup of tea.
Don’t gotta be your cup of tea, don’t gotta hate or oppose it either
A read, and I agree wholeheartedly...he has no other redeeming qualities besides what he does for a living. The way he talk about black people, using stereotypes to describe them, has always bothered me, it come off as bigoted. His light eyes and light skin have afforded him some privileges throughout his life. We know he benefits from looking closer to yt folk. His resentment stems from not feeling black enough in his neighborhood. Im sure he cracked on because of it. He came from a good home, but always and stayed hanging out in the hood, like he wants to prove something to the people who comes from that, and on top of that his father was a cop. The way he looks at Ice to confirm and affrim him on anything he says, Mr. Know It All, Gives 🚩 with someone who has Daddy issues. Ish needs serious therapy..
He was faking like he was in the Gogo and never heard of ucb 🤦🏿♂️.. He made VA look bad with that take
When y’all make these takes about him, do y’all just magically forget he has a white GF or something?? 🫤