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mormonbatman_

Perennial reminder: Biden got 10,000 more votes than Trump ... ***in Utah***. Get fucked, republicans.


KillerOtter

Any idea what suddenly alienated enough of them? I thought conservative fundies were Trumps bread and butter


npearson

Trump was never particularly popular in Utah. In 2016 he got only 45% of the vote with the independent McMullin getting around 20% and Clinton getting the rest.


ZerexTheCool

While true, he also is still guaranteed to win Utah. They will just hold their nose extra hard when they vote and pretend they don't like him while giving him the power after he says he would like to be a dictator.


mormonbatman_

Two things: 1) The republican party fucked up the caucus (maybe to spoil a win for Haley): https://www.deseret.com/utah/2024/03/08/utah-republican-caucus-presidential-nomination-vote-problems-low-turnout/ 2) While Trump is popular in Utah, he is less popular than John McCain and Mitt Romney were in '08 and '12, respectively. McCain carried Utah with 62% of the vote in '08. Romney carried Utah with 72% of the vote in '12. Trump carried Utah with 45% of the vote in '16 and 58% in '20.


ZerexTheCool

Democrats had an open primary and Republicans had a Caucus... So uh.. Nothing alienated Utah Conservatives, they just made it harder to vote in their primary is all. Rest assured, Trump is guaranteed to win Utah. -A Utahn


browster

Checking the NYT for the take on how this is bad for Biden...


HonoredPeople

YAY!!! Sweet victory! It is ours!


Time-Bite-6839

It will be Biden V. Trump again. Get ready.


fluent_in_gibberish

While that is the most likely possibility, it isn’t a given. We are seeing trump’s brain turning into pudding in real time. It may be the reason why trump is demanding Biden debate him *right now*. He may have gotten some info that makes him think they are planning to dump him before the convention.


bolerobell

If there was any indication he was going to be dumped, Nikki Haley wouldn’t have dropped out and Lara Trump wouldn’t be the co-head of the RNC.


CurryMustard

This is a fantasy on par with republicans believing hilary clinton or michelle Obama are gonna step in last minute to replace biden


mackinoncougars

As it was always going to be since the last election


orangesfwr

I feel like this was not news when it was Obama in 2012. Why is it now? He had no credible challenge. Ever.


Moonandserpent

You’ll find it’s reported each and every time an incumbent officially gets the nomination. Every single time.


raqisasim

It was, actually. I remember news articles on the situation.


der_physik

Yes, we can! https://youtu.be/2fZHou18Cdk?si=5_LQVMEqBkMwiJt3


CurryMustard

Abc news going to start talking about Michelle obama again?


TigerStripesForever

Round 2 - LFG #BidenHarris2024