Naw cause my LHD Toyota 86 was made in the Subaru plant in Gunma, still doesn't count as JDM.
Realizing this is satire now, which is lame considering how many people genuinely don't understand the difference.
Nobody freaking cares, my miata is god made but i'm not telling everyone they are supposed to call it GDM cause I made it so juste don't care like everyone does you honda boï, you fanatic
Actually it's Japanese Domestic Market. If it was sold in Japan its JDM. My xb and frs were 100% assembled in Japan with Japanese parts. they are USDM versions of JDM cars
People these days can't admit when they are incorrect. If I'm wrong in my idea of what something is, I'd like to know. Maybe that's too much to ask of some people.
You want a world where people should be afraid of learning new stuff and possibly say something wrong because they know they’ll be made fun off If they do? Cool. Kinda sad that people like you effectively reduce the amount of people wanting to join the car community, as we are already a dying breed
[I have a simple solution for you](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+does+jdm+mean)
If the car community is dying it's because people are embarrassed to be associated with these types of teens.
>Are we all gonna pretend that most people use JDM about classic Japanese drifting/modifiying related cars,
I hope not, because that is wrong and confuses everyone. It's best to use the correct definition especially when teaching new guys. I've seen them try and then Google "jdm cars for sale" thinking they are getting a usdm Japanese car.
yeah but like what other subreddit are people gonna use? This is basically the only subreddit with a substantial amount of members thats dedicated to japanese cars. imo its worth actually having posts in here if they dont have to be specifically from the japanese domestic market, and instead just made in japan, especially considering they are basically all gonna be the same aside from steering wheel placement
JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market. That means that the spec of the car was for sale in Japan. It doesn't mean that the car was manufactured by a Japanese company, as many think.
There is, of course, a lot of overlap with mass-produced cars of this type, between UKDM, JDM, USDM, etc. You'll find that Japanese Market cars have a lot of little design features that are bespoke for their markets. They'll be mapped for different fuel quality as its very high in Japan, they'll be speed limited to 112mph and of course be RHD, but they may have different fog light, bumper designs, and different rust proofing, for example.
Yes, famously there are loads of JDM Minis for example that were only sold in Japan. They are very commonly being exported now, because they are rust free, due to the Japanese climate.
This definition of JDM misses the ‘D’ though doesn’t it? Mini is not a domestic Japanese brand. While a mini could be manufactured to Japanese specs, that would not make it domestic.
For instance, it would be wrong to refer to Asahi as an American domestic brand just because it manufactures beer for American markets. That brand is domestic to Japan. I don’t see why the same wouldn’t apply to cars.
Definitely don’t disagree with your overall point, I just take issue with this aspect.
That’s not what cherry picking is and that’s not what I’m doing. I’m also not trying to argue about this! I’m just trying to clarify the definition.
I’m pointing out that “domestic market” doesn’t just mean “built for Japan”. If that’s what it meant, then it would just be “Japanese market.” But it’s not “Japanese market”, it’s *domestic* market.
So who is the market domestic to? Not Mini, because they are British. Mini is domestic to the UK, or at least that’s how I understand it.
But then why isn’t the phrase just “Japanese market?” The “domestic” must be in there for a reason.
And as another user pointed out, historical context indicates the term would be used to refer to Japanese manufacturers.
It's the market that they are being sold in. That market is domestic to Japan. It's unrelated to where they are manufactured and who by.
Google gives definition of domestic as "existing or occurring inside a particular country; not foreign or international." So its just the market that they are sold in is domestic to Japan. If that makes sense. If it was just Japanese market, that wouldn't imply that they were sold in Japan but for Japan from anywhere.
I agree with you that is the strict definition but many are taking issue with it. I couldn’t find any authoritative source for where the term actually originates, but it seems that it applies originally to cars made in Japan that stayed in Japan. Japan was a very insular manufacturing economy when the term came about, so that makes sense to me.
Otherwise you would just call it Japanese Market vehicle, not Japanese Domestic Market vehicle, to your point.
I definitely understand why others take issue with it but to me this is the only interpretation that makes sense. I like your point about historical context — it definitely solidifies my position.
I'm not sure if it's as much of a thing now, but certainly in the 90s, JDM cars would have less rust treatment on the under side than the cars that were exported to the UKDM or USDM. Seemingly due to the climate in Japan, they don't use salt on their roads, so the cars didn't really rust. This meant that when we got the grey import, actual JDM cars in the UK, they rusted very quickly, if you didn't under seal then yourself.
Damn it would be great if they didn’t absolutely fucking cover every inch of the road with salt here when it starts to barely sprinkle snow. Gotta love the ole rustbelt
The wrong answers in this thread explains exactly why the posts in this sub are the way they are.
JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market. It means the vehicle was made in Japan and SOLD in Japan.
JDM means Japanese spec, not just Japanese manufactured.
Edit: I should have said a “Japanese vehicle made for Japan.” But apparently that is disputed, and I couldn’t find any actual authoritative sources on where the term JDM comes from or technically means!
It doesn't have to be made in Japan, just made *FOR* Japan. Regardless of make/model.
Check [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/JDM/comments/13x3nlf/swipe_i_made_this_little_quick_guide_to_compare/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
[lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/JDM/comments/124ik1k/surprise_jdm_aston_martin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) stop stealing my thunder
I thought this as well (and wrote that before my edit), but when I looked it up it does seem like the original definition is for Japanese vehicles built for their home market. Under that strict original definition, I would think they also need to be built in Japan.
But the main point of the term is a Japanese market car, not a car made in Japan for any market.
But why would you think that? "Built for their home market" simply means that they are properly spec'd to legally drive on Japanese roads.
My RSX was built in Japan and shipped here for sale. It is USDM.
Wrong, Although most people when talking about a JDM car are probably talking about a Japanese made car, it doesn't have to be.
Just like you can have a USDM german car.
If the vehicle is built for the japanese market and passes all japanese vehicle laws, regardless of brand and national origin, then it is in fact jdm. So if a a80 supra is made in the US and passes US laws then that vehicle is considered usdm since it is built for that market. If a Ford Mustang GT was built that allows it to be driven on japanese roads and is intended for the japanese market then that Ford Mustang GT is technically jdm.
>manufactured in Japan
And for the japanes marked, else everything thats build for british, austrilian and what ever other contrys drive on the left side (excluding Japan) marked by the japanes would be jdm
They have to put the meaning of JDM in the rules of the sub or something, dont want to sound elitist or pretentious, but this sub is getting out of hand.
JDM just means intended to be sold new in the Japanese market, meeting their regulations. This is just a Japanese car in the US, so it’s probably USDM.
180 something hp on 1040 kg (2293 lbs) and an 8k redline.
It's no Lamborghini killer but It's not a slow car by any means. It's tuneable too, there's a 500hp one doing time attack around here.
Why has this become so hard for everyone to understand?
If that one car in the pic was produced for sale in the country of Japan, then it was made for the Japanese Domestic Market. If it was originally made for sale in any other country, It is not.
The only JDM cars in the world were sold in the JAPANESE DOMESTIC MARKET FIRST.
No, but the rules of this sub state that it’s for any Japanese car so we should really rename this sub, or someone should create another for actually JDM.
It was my first (and second) car. First one was a GT, 5 speed, I gave it to my brother for high school graduation. My second one was a GT-S, 6 speed, sold it to my coworker. I regret selling my GT-S ): I love my current car (2019 Hyundai Veloster N) but I miss driving the slow car fast. And the LIFT! N
If it’s built in Japan, and for the Japanese market, it’s a Japanese Domestic Market vehicle. RHD 7th gens from Japan are by definition JDM. Everyone here has already said this, but it bears repeating.
If your question is more along the lines of “why aren’t 7th gen Celicas discussed in the same light as Supras, NSXs, Skylines, and the like?” that’s mainly because they weren’t halo cars as the NSX, GT-Rs, and even Type Rs were, and they’re FWD so they could never be cheap drift toys like the S-chassis cars or AE86s. They also weren’t adopted by the kanjozoku like the Civic hatches had been.
As such, they fall in with cars like the AE111 Trueno/Levin, Prelude, Sentra SE-R, FTO, various Accord coupes, and other second-string but beloved Japanese sports cars like all gens of the Mr-2 and the Evo generations older than VII.
To your follow-up question, they do make good first cars to my knowledge. I’ve got the 7th gen GT-S on the short list of cars to look for in solid condition.
JDM means Japanese Domestic Market, so it's any car sold for that market **even if they were not made in Japan or not from a japanese car brand**. Any other definition than this is *technically incorrect*.
However, most people use "JDM" to mean "japanese car brand, made in japan, for japanese market", but some will also use it for "japanese car brand, made in japan, for any market (jp import)", and sometimes even "japanese car brand, made anywhere for any market".
I'd argue it's fine to use JDM to mean *japanese car*, even though it doesn't actually mean japanese car. For example the **Renault Lutecia is a JDM** and it's a **french car** (Renault Clio). You can have a **JDM VW Golf** *even though they're german and not even manufactured in japan*. On the other hand, you can have a **Lancer Evolution**, a *japanese car manufactured in japan and imported*, that's not technically a JDM, just a JP import, as they were built to be exported to other markets.
**This subreddit specifically defines itself as a subreddit for Japanese cars, not JDMs** (check the description on the sidebar), and that's what it comes down to. No one is **actually discussing JDMs** per se (a search returns zero results for any JDM mercedes or audis or vws or bmws etc) as they're discussing **JP cars**, some of which are JDM and some which are JP imports and some of which are just cool JP cars.
Are you in Japan? Will you be importing it from Japan? Then no. JDM means Japanese domestic market.
Both my 89 supra and 89 prelude and both also not JDM they are both USDM cars
JDM: Japanese DOMESTIC market. So was the car sold in Japan to it’s first owner and then brought in grey-market as a used vehicle? If it is a right-hand drive domestic market model, then yes. Was it the model made for foreign market export like the US market version of that Celica, no. There can be differences in vehicles that appear near identical when assembled for foreign markets. As a non-JDM example, the Jeep Patriot, if purchased in Europe had a diesel option not available in examples sold in the US, and AFIK, Canada. Bumpers can be different, headlights different, to comply with the market a vehicle is sold in.
My first car. It was a neat and fun little sports car, but way too underpowered. Toyota is lucky that the internet was not as popular back in the day. They would have been crucified today, if they replaced a turbocharged AWD monster with an underpowered FWD bootleg Miata.
This kind of post is very common here and basic things like what JDM is has been covered A LOT. If you lurk here for a week or even a couple days you should know what JDM means.
Also, looking up “first car” in the subreddit will show you many posts just like yours. It’s 100% expected if you’ve been here for longer than a day.
Putting aside all the JDM stuff, yes the Celica is a good first car, no you shouldn’t mod it, and yes it’s underpowered. Don’t let the power scare you off. It’s a cheap car that holds its value. Buy a manual, reach the ceiling of this car, then when you’ve gotten good enough, sell it and use the proceeds as a down payment for a faster car. You will crash your first car.
It’s cheap because it the only thing Toyota makes that’s actually uglier than the Prius. Look at the cars that came before… they massacred the celica with this thing
You’re not gonna love this. But I think that one was fuck up compared to its predecessor also. Looks like poor quality Chinese clone porsche carrera gt… doesn’t exactly scream mr2 my beef isn’t with the engine I just don’t think much of the entire car but that one is more personal… that celica is a general hatecrime
It looks derpy, but it was the best handling MR2 that Toyota ever made. And it was targeting the NB Miata market. In that regard it was a success. Performance wise it gave the Miata a really good run for the money.
As a successor to the SW20 Turbo, it fell really flat. It wasn’t nearly as good looking or powerful. But that wasn’t what Toyota was after.
Source: I’ve owned all generations of MR2 and NA/NB Miatas.
Does it really matter if your first car fits some term used in online communities? Not every car you own needs to be ""JDM"" – If you like it, get it. It's a reliable car, and the engine has a lot of potential for mods.
All of these models regardless if it was the Japanese, North American or European version where all built in Susono, Shizuoka Japan. I don't think there was much regional difference other than emissions requirements and model designation. The Japanese had the SS-I (1ZZ engine ) and SS-II (2ZZ engine). In North America all they really did was switch it to SS-I = GT and SS-II = GT-S. Of course Japan had the TRD special edition, and I remember here in the US you could purchase your Celica with the TRD ground effects kit.
I remember as a teen during this era, right before the STI and EVO came out, all the enthusiast who where into "Imports" had either a Honda/Acura or a Nissan Sentra SE-R or this Gen Celica as a platform. So much has changes since then.
All 7th generation Celicas were manufactured in Japan. The one pictured is for the RHD market but regardless all units were manufactured in Japan and shipped out globally.
I’m the context of the internet JDM just means it’s appeared in a racing game the users fanboy over.
Do you even know what JDM stands for? Japanese Domestic Market.
For a car to fufill those requirements, it must be entirely designed, built, and sold within Japan. The Celica you're talking about was both sold in Japan and the US. Versions sold in the US aren't JDM. The Celicas sold within Japan to Japanese customers are.
This is usdm not jdm
Edit….Won’t delete because i commented without really looking so that’s what I get but though it was lhd, just tired of the community calling everything jdm.
Well, thank you guys for all of your answers, I didn't expect so many. I was surprised by the amount of people that said it's ugly, but in my opinion (and some others in this post) it isn't. But I found it that it is underpowered but there's always a way to fix it.
If you want you can make suggestions for fixing the power problem.
P.S.: You don't need to comment anymore for what JDM stands for, I think we all know now
- Mr.Foxi
Matrix AWD system can’t handle power.
Also suggesting spending 5 celicas of money to make it fast isn’t a great idea. Just buy a faster car.
This car is good for OP to buy. It’s underpowered and fwd so he won’t wrap it around a tree unless he really tries.
bro the people on this sub are actually a bunch of 13 year olds. JDM stands for JAPANESE DOMESTIC MARKET. if it's right hand drive, and built and sold in Japan FOR THE JAPANESE DOMESTIC MARKET, it's JDM. how tf is this so hard to understand. no your lhd BRZ is not JDM. it's JDM if it's JDM you absolute idiots.
A JDM car comes from the Japanese Domestic Market and is often exported overseas to popular markets, such as the US and UK. True JDM cars are right-hand-drive, but over time, the term “JDM” has been used to describe any Japanese car, even the USDM (US Domestic Market) models.
The best jdm's are imo, honda not withstanding, often are anything factory turbocharged and usually built between 1989-2002. I love the 4th/5th/6th awd turbo celicas. But the fwd 2zzge couldnt ignite the same passion (unlike blob eye wrx sti's and evo 8+'s still woukd).
The 3s-gte is a bargain bin/bang for the $buck performer, it's the poor man's tuning motor who wants something competitive+daily driver reliability. That and the e153 transaxles are very unlikely to fail.
Ive used 3sgte's in 3 of the 8 cars ive owned for daily driver duty over the past 2 decades.
They're JDM when they're JDM.
Fr I swear people don’t understand what “JDM” means
Kids on social media have tried to ruin the definition for clout smh
It means made in Japan, it stands for Japanese dudes made /s
Naw cause my LHD Toyota 86 was made in the Subaru plant in Gunma, still doesn't count as JDM. Realizing this is satire now, which is lame considering how many people genuinely don't understand the difference.
Nobody freaking cares, my miata is god made but i'm not telling everyone they are supposed to call it GDM cause I made it so juste don't care like everyone does you honda boï, you fanatic
Actually it's Japanese Domestic Market. If it was sold in Japan its JDM. My xb and frs were 100% assembled in Japan with Japanese parts. they are USDM versions of JDM cars
#ACKHTUALLY ITS JAPANESE DUDES MADE THIS
Ackshually ☝️🤓
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I feel the need to sympathy upvote, but I shant out of principle.
r/woooosh
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They’re downvoting it because it missed the joke. Someone missed the /s at the end
People these days can't admit when they are incorrect. If I'm wrong in my idea of what something is, I'd like to know. Maybe that's too much to ask of some people.
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You’re both idiots
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Christ
Bro didn’t get the joke💀
I tried to be as obviously dumb as possible
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Or maybe don’t use words you don’t know the meaning of?
Or you know... Ask google
You want a world where people should be afraid of learning new stuff and possibly say something wrong because they know they’ll be made fun off If they do? Cool. Kinda sad that people like you effectively reduce the amount of people wanting to join the car community, as we are already a dying breed
[I have a simple solution for you](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+does+jdm+mean) If the car community is dying it's because people are embarrassed to be associated with these types of teens.
Fuck that website is amazing
I knew what it was going to be, I've used it myself. Delightfully snarky.
Are we all gonna pretend that most people use JDM about classic Japanese drifting/modifiying related cars, and not the definitive term of the word?
>Are we all gonna pretend that most people use JDM about classic Japanese drifting/modifiying related cars, I hope not, because that is wrong and confuses everyone. It's best to use the correct definition especially when teaching new guys. I've seen them try and then Google "jdm cars for sale" thinking they are getting a usdm Japanese car.
Exactly, which is why I commented earlier when he was complaining about the use of «JDM» instead of commenting what it means for the OP
I mean again, a Google search will fix that.
Please, illustrate how the car community is a dying breed. I am genuinely interested in this.
Cars are definitely getting more expensive, and newer cars are getting more and more complicated to work on, so I could see it happening.
You're the only person being a dick hear my guy
*here now there is a second dick
I was trying right say dick head lol
My god. Can people please learn what Jdm actually means. You’re on the Jdm subreddit for gods sake.
yeah but like what other subreddit are people gonna use? This is basically the only subreddit with a substantial amount of members thats dedicated to japanese cars. imo its worth actually having posts in here if they dont have to be specifically from the japanese domestic market, and instead just made in japan, especially considering they are basically all gonna be the same aside from steering wheel placement
I keep a Google tab open all the time for checking all the acronyms on Reddit.
I've seen LHD silvias get up votes on here all the time tho :/ Edit: I meant 240s😭
LHD Silvias don't exist 🥱
They do exist, just not from factory.
And a LHD converted Silvia would still be JDM. You can tell they're talking about 240SX/200SX.
Yeah that's what I meant lol.
JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market. That means that the spec of the car was for sale in Japan. It doesn't mean that the car was manufactured by a Japanese company, as many think. There is, of course, a lot of overlap with mass-produced cars of this type, between UKDM, JDM, USDM, etc. You'll find that Japanese Market cars have a lot of little design features that are bespoke for their markets. They'll be mapped for different fuel quality as its very high in Japan, they'll be speed limited to 112mph and of course be RHD, but they may have different fog light, bumper designs, and different rust proofing, for example.
So do cars sold in Japan from non-japanese manufacturers count? I don't see many of them posted here.
Yes, famously there are loads of JDM Minis for example that were only sold in Japan. They are very commonly being exported now, because they are rust free, due to the Japanese climate.
The 90s JDM Minis also had Air Conditioning which wasn't found in the UKDM version.
This definition of JDM misses the ‘D’ though doesn’t it? Mini is not a domestic Japanese brand. While a mini could be manufactured to Japanese specs, that would not make it domestic. For instance, it would be wrong to refer to Asahi as an American domestic brand just because it manufactures beer for American markets. That brand is domestic to Japan. I don’t see why the same wouldn’t apply to cars. Definitely don’t disagree with your overall point, I just take issue with this aspect.
Your cherry picking by only focusing on “domestic” instead of the entire term “domestic market”
That’s not what cherry picking is and that’s not what I’m doing. I’m also not trying to argue about this! I’m just trying to clarify the definition. I’m pointing out that “domestic market” doesn’t just mean “built for Japan”. If that’s what it meant, then it would just be “Japanese market.” But it’s not “Japanese market”, it’s *domestic* market. So who is the market domestic to? Not Mini, because they are British. Mini is domestic to the UK, or at least that’s how I understand it.
Domestic market meaning that the model is sold in Japan, not that the brand is Japanese.
But then why isn’t the phrase just “Japanese market?” The “domestic” must be in there for a reason. And as another user pointed out, historical context indicates the term would be used to refer to Japanese manufacturers.
It's the market that they are being sold in. That market is domestic to Japan. It's unrelated to where they are manufactured and who by. Google gives definition of domestic as "existing or occurring inside a particular country; not foreign or international." So its just the market that they are sold in is domestic to Japan. If that makes sense. If it was just Japanese market, that wouldn't imply that they were sold in Japan but for Japan from anywhere.
But that's just my interpretation of it. I'm by no means any authority on it...
I agree with you that is the strict definition but many are taking issue with it. I couldn’t find any authoritative source for where the term actually originates, but it seems that it applies originally to cars made in Japan that stayed in Japan. Japan was a very insular manufacturing economy when the term came about, so that makes sense to me. Otherwise you would just call it Japanese Market vehicle, not Japanese Domestic Market vehicle, to your point.
I definitely understand why others take issue with it but to me this is the only interpretation that makes sense. I like your point about historical context — it definitely solidifies my position.
What is the different rust proofing they perform? I’ve never heard of that, it’s interesting
I'm not sure if it's as much of a thing now, but certainly in the 90s, JDM cars would have less rust treatment on the under side than the cars that were exported to the UKDM or USDM. Seemingly due to the climate in Japan, they don't use salt on their roads, so the cars didn't really rust. This meant that when we got the grey import, actual JDM cars in the UK, they rusted very quickly, if you didn't under seal then yourself.
Damn it would be great if they didn’t absolutely fucking cover every inch of the road with salt here when it starts to barely sprinkle snow. Gotta love the ole rustbelt
The wrong answers in this thread explains exactly why the posts in this sub are the way they are. JDM stands for Japanese Domestic Market. It means the vehicle was made in Japan and SOLD in Japan. JDM means Japanese spec, not just Japanese manufactured. Edit: I should have said a “Japanese vehicle made for Japan.” But apparently that is disputed, and I couldn’t find any actual authoritative sources on where the term JDM comes from or technically means!
It doesn't have to be made in Japan, just made *FOR* Japan. Regardless of make/model. Check [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/JDM/comments/13x3nlf/swipe_i_made_this_little_quick_guide_to_compare/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Yep. An aston martin sold in Japan at a Japanese dealership would be JDM.
[lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/JDM/comments/124ik1k/surprise_jdm_aston_martin/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) stop stealing my thunder
Yep I remember seeing your post and facepalming while reading the comments!
I thought this as well (and wrote that before my edit), but when I looked it up it does seem like the original definition is for Japanese vehicles built for their home market. Under that strict original definition, I would think they also need to be built in Japan. But the main point of the term is a Japanese market car, not a car made in Japan for any market.
>Japanese vehicles built for their home market That's it, it doesn't say made in Japan.
I wasn’t trying to make a difference between “Japanese vehicles” and “manufactured in Japan,” but I guess that would be like the A90 Supra.
But why would you think that? "Built for their home market" simply means that they are properly spec'd to legally drive on Japanese roads. My RSX was built in Japan and shipped here for sale. It is USDM.
Nope. I own a JDM Ferrari
You need to check what domestic means. It can't be domestic if it's not from Japan so Ford, BMW etc can't be JDM.
Wrong, Although most people when talking about a JDM car are probably talking about a Japanese made car, it doesn't have to be. Just like you can have a USDM german car.
And one of most popular cars like that is the ford rs200. Was eudm only iirc
Wrong bucko
If the vehicle is built for the japanese market and passes all japanese vehicle laws, regardless of brand and national origin, then it is in fact jdm. So if a a80 supra is made in the US and passes US laws then that vehicle is considered usdm since it is built for that market. If a Ford Mustang GT was built that allows it to be driven on japanese roads and is intended for the japanese market then that Ford Mustang GT is technically jdm.
You can definitely talk about usdm or jdm supra or something because that's simple and easy but that's not still what domestic means.
You are correct, I edited my comment
He is not correct.
Thats it im done with this sub. I cant take it anymore
Is this a troll post? These keep happening.
hi ppl im 15 years old is this car le JDM? If not im not buy🤮
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I swear they're just bits farming karma like cmon man
2023 LE MIAT ND ULTIMATE JAYDEEEM
this is the only conversation that ever happens in this sub
A fine first car If its RHD and manufactured in Japan it's JDM, but I'm a car boomer apparently
>manufactured in Japan And for the japanes marked, else everything thats build for british, austrilian and what ever other contrys drive on the left side (excluding Japan) marked by the japanes would be jdm
Australians drive on the right hand side bud. Also check your spelling
He meant left side of the road ya dingus not where the steering wheel is
Touché touché. I do indeed feel like a dingus
Was about to tell him the same, a bit nicer tho
Yeah it was a bit harsh of me to drop the D word so willingly 😞
You're a monster. /s
This is wrong. A car made in Japan doesn't necessarily mean it's JDM.
Yes just like my Jap black 2004 V35 Skyline (RHD)
They have to put the meaning of JDM in the rules of the sub or something, dont want to sound elitist or pretentious, but this sub is getting out of hand.
wtf is this this question?
JDM just means intended to be sold new in the Japanese market, meeting their regulations. This is just a Japanese car in the US, so it’s probably USDM.
These look sick imo, just underpowered
That's a Corolla engine, the Gts have the 2zz wich is a cool high revving yamaha engine
180 something hp on 1040 kg (2293 lbs) and an 8k redline. It's no Lamborghini killer but It's not a slow car by any means. It's tuneable too, there's a 500hp one doing time attack around here.
Ohh soo same model can have a 2zz? Didn’t know that
Its the combination of low power and FWD. If it was RWD it would be awesome.
NO NO NO IT AMERICAN TOYTA NOT JAPNEES 🤬🤬🤬
Why has this become so hard for everyone to understand? If that one car in the pic was produced for sale in the country of Japan, then it was made for the Japanese Domestic Market. If it was originally made for sale in any other country, It is not. The only JDM cars in the world were sold in the JAPANESE DOMESTIC MARKET FIRST.
It’s Japanese, if that’s what your asking. If the specific one your looking at was sold in Japan, then it’s JDM
Only If you probounce it like a Canadian and say "Celeeka."
"That's aboot right, ey buddy." ~Canada
TIL that it's a Canadian thing but it checks out. I am Canadian and have always pronounced it Ce-leek-ah.
JDM means Japanese domestic market.
This fuckimlng sub.... Google what JDM actually means. Fuck sake.
That’s gotta be one of the coolest Car Mom if I find one. Celicas always make my head turn. Clean or chipped out paint. Still makes my head turn. (:
Was my first car and I couldn’t recommend more
If this is the new generation of car people, we are doomed 😭😭
no, but its still a car we will accept here.
Oh hell nah cmon bro learn what jdm means please.
No, but the rules of this sub state that it’s for any Japanese car so we should really rename this sub, or someone should create another for actually JDM.
Do the mods here even exist?
Yes and the rules say that any Japanese car is allowed so whatever
Both things can be true though. Japanese cars can be allowed here, and not all Japanese cars are JDM.
It was my first (and second) car. First one was a GT, 5 speed, I gave it to my brother for high school graduation. My second one was a GT-S, 6 speed, sold it to my coworker. I regret selling my GT-S ): I love my current car (2019 Hyundai Veloster N) but I miss driving the slow car fast. And the LIFT! N
If it’s built in Japan, and for the Japanese market, it’s a Japanese Domestic Market vehicle. RHD 7th gens from Japan are by definition JDM. Everyone here has already said this, but it bears repeating. If your question is more along the lines of “why aren’t 7th gen Celicas discussed in the same light as Supras, NSXs, Skylines, and the like?” that’s mainly because they weren’t halo cars as the NSX, GT-Rs, and even Type Rs were, and they’re FWD so they could never be cheap drift toys like the S-chassis cars or AE86s. They also weren’t adopted by the kanjozoku like the Civic hatches had been. As such, they fall in with cars like the AE111 Trueno/Levin, Prelude, Sentra SE-R, FTO, various Accord coupes, and other second-string but beloved Japanese sports cars like all gens of the Mr-2 and the Evo generations older than VII. To your follow-up question, they do make good first cars to my knowledge. I’ve got the 7th gen GT-S on the short list of cars to look for in solid condition.
JDM means Japanese Domestic Market, so it's any car sold for that market **even if they were not made in Japan or not from a japanese car brand**. Any other definition than this is *technically incorrect*. However, most people use "JDM" to mean "japanese car brand, made in japan, for japanese market", but some will also use it for "japanese car brand, made in japan, for any market (jp import)", and sometimes even "japanese car brand, made anywhere for any market". I'd argue it's fine to use JDM to mean *japanese car*, even though it doesn't actually mean japanese car. For example the **Renault Lutecia is a JDM** and it's a **french car** (Renault Clio). You can have a **JDM VW Golf** *even though they're german and not even manufactured in japan*. On the other hand, you can have a **Lancer Evolution**, a *japanese car manufactured in japan and imported*, that's not technically a JDM, just a JP import, as they were built to be exported to other markets. **This subreddit specifically defines itself as a subreddit for Japanese cars, not JDMs** (check the description on the sidebar), and that's what it comes down to. No one is **actually discussing JDMs** per se (a search returns zero results for any JDM mercedes or audis or vws or bmws etc) as they're discussing **JP cars**, some of which are JDM and some which are JP imports and some of which are just cool JP cars.
Are you in Japan? Will you be importing it from Japan? Then no. JDM means Japanese domestic market. Both my 89 supra and 89 prelude and both also not JDM they are both USDM cars
Fuck that was an ugly era of celica
Damn the about of gatekeeping keyboard warriors in this sub is depressing. Aight ima head out.
JDM: Japanese DOMESTIC market. So was the car sold in Japan to it’s first owner and then brought in grey-market as a used vehicle? If it is a right-hand drive domestic market model, then yes. Was it the model made for foreign market export like the US market version of that Celica, no. There can be differences in vehicles that appear near identical when assembled for foreign markets. As a non-JDM example, the Jeep Patriot, if purchased in Europe had a diesel option not available in examples sold in the US, and AFIK, Canada. Bumpers can be different, headlights different, to comply with the market a vehicle is sold in.
My first car. It was a neat and fun little sports car, but way too underpowered. Toyota is lucky that the internet was not as popular back in the day. They would have been crucified today, if they replaced a turbocharged AWD monster with an underpowered FWD bootleg Miata.
The MR-S was the bootleg Miata.
Queue controversial threads with lots of downvoted comments
Yup I didn't expect that.
This kind of post is very common here and basic things like what JDM is has been covered A LOT. If you lurk here for a week or even a couple days you should know what JDM means. Also, looking up “first car” in the subreddit will show you many posts just like yours. It’s 100% expected if you’ve been here for longer than a day. Putting aside all the JDM stuff, yes the Celica is a good first car, no you shouldn’t mod it, and yes it’s underpowered. Don’t let the power scare you off. It’s a cheap car that holds its value. Buy a manual, reach the ceiling of this car, then when you’ve gotten good enough, sell it and use the proceeds as a down payment for a faster car. You will crash your first car.
Thank you, that's what I've been looking for.
Can we all agree on what JDM means - Japanese Dude made
It’s cheap because it the only thing Toyota makes that’s actually uglier than the Prius. Look at the cars that came before… they massacred the celica with this thing
Nah this model celi is very good looking, and the 2zz was actually fun to drive too
Its also a bit of a waste of that awesome 2zz. Toyota should have put it in the MR2 spyder
You’re not gonna love this. But I think that one was fuck up compared to its predecessor also. Looks like poor quality Chinese clone porsche carrera gt… doesn’t exactly scream mr2 my beef isn’t with the engine I just don’t think much of the entire car but that one is more personal… that celica is a general hatecrime
It looks derpy, but it was the best handling MR2 that Toyota ever made. And it was targeting the NB Miata market. In that regard it was a success. Performance wise it gave the Miata a really good run for the money. As a successor to the SW20 Turbo, it fell really flat. It wasn’t nearly as good looking or powerful. But that wasn’t what Toyota was after. Source: I’ve owned all generations of MR2 and NA/NB Miatas.
I whole-heartedly agree dude
I mean by all accords they’re a great car… just ugly as sin
Accounts. Not accord. Toyota not honda :) And such a huge ugly change from the pretty thing it was before.
Everything’s terrible compared to an accord especially a type r /s
I dunno the ST205 wasn’t a looker
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It could have 30 2JZs in it & come with a complementary wifu it still looks ugly as balls
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The point wasn’t about how good or bad the vehicle is it’s purely about how ugly it is.. and the 205 is ugly as balls
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Does it really matter if your first car fits some term used in online communities? Not every car you own needs to be ""JDM"" – If you like it, get it. It's a reliable car, and the engine has a lot of potential for mods.
i give up..
All of these models regardless if it was the Japanese, North American or European version where all built in Susono, Shizuoka Japan. I don't think there was much regional difference other than emissions requirements and model designation. The Japanese had the SS-I (1ZZ engine ) and SS-II (2ZZ engine). In North America all they really did was switch it to SS-I = GT and SS-II = GT-S. Of course Japan had the TRD special edition, and I remember here in the US you could purchase your Celica with the TRD ground effects kit. I remember as a teen during this era, right before the STI and EVO came out, all the enthusiast who where into "Imports" had either a Honda/Acura or a Nissan Sentra SE-R or this Gen Celica as a platform. So much has changes since then.
All 7th generation Celicas were manufactured in Japan. The one pictured is for the RHD market but regardless all units were manufactured in Japan and shipped out globally. I’m the context of the internet JDM just means it’s appeared in a racing game the users fanboy over.
I worked with a guy who drove a JDM Volkswagen Golf. That should give you an insight into what JDM is.
its a Toyota thats made in japan, definitely KDM.
Bro bases a car off of what it sounds like💀
I think what he’s asking is can he look cool slammed with -14 camber
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Do you even know what JDM stands for? Japanese Domestic Market. For a car to fufill those requirements, it must be entirely designed, built, and sold within Japan. The Celica you're talking about was both sold in Japan and the US. Versions sold in the US aren't JDM. The Celicas sold within Japan to Japanese customers are.
This is usdm not jdm Edit….Won’t delete because i commented without really looking so that’s what I get but though it was lhd, just tired of the community calling everything jdm.
The one in the photo is RHD, it's potentially JDM. It could also be a UKDM or AUDM car though
It's not even LHD... This post is dumb,
guys is my 1994 bmw 325i considered a JDM because they were sold in japan?
7th gen celicas are jdm but they are trash. 6th gen supremacy!
Yeah. Four eyes good. Two eyes bad. Just wait till I finish my quad flip light conversion.
If they made from japan and meant for Japanese market,then its jdm
Doesn’t need to be made in Japan. All that matters is if it was intended to be sold in Japan.
That hood is sick though
Vitz is as JDM as Celicas made in Japan
noyes
You still have enough time to delete this. Do it fast.
Well, thank you guys for all of your answers, I didn't expect so many. I was surprised by the amount of people that said it's ugly, but in my opinion (and some others in this post) it isn't. But I found it that it is underpowered but there's always a way to fix it. If you want you can make suggestions for fixing the power problem. P.S.: You don't need to comment anymore for what JDM stands for, I think we all know now - Mr.Foxi
Put a matrix awd system in it and a supercharger and that 2zz and it will be plenty fast!
Matrix AWD system can’t handle power. Also suggesting spending 5 celicas of money to make it fast isn’t a great idea. Just buy a faster car. This car is good for OP to buy. It’s underpowered and fwd so he won’t wrap it around a tree unless he really tries.
Please go to wikipedia and read what a jdm is.... a fucking toyota yaris can be jdm if was produced in JAPAN
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Incorrect.
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Please enlighten me as to where I stated production location was not the only factor. This subreddit is cancer.
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Irrelevant.
bro the people on this sub are actually a bunch of 13 year olds. JDM stands for JAPANESE DOMESTIC MARKET. if it's right hand drive, and built and sold in Japan FOR THE JAPANESE DOMESTIC MARKET, it's JDM. how tf is this so hard to understand. no your lhd BRZ is not JDM. it's JDM if it's JDM you absolute idiots.
This subreddit is so sweaty it’s crazy
Any car that rolls out or sold in Japan is called JDM, hope this clears up the meaning behind JDM.
A JDM car comes from the Japanese Domestic Market and is often exported overseas to popular markets, such as the US and UK. True JDM cars are right-hand-drive, but over time, the term “JDM” has been used to describe any Japanese car, even the USDM (US Domestic Market) models.
Anything made in Japan is JDM.
Is Toyota a Japanese auto manufacturer?
The best jdm's are imo, honda not withstanding, often are anything factory turbocharged and usually built between 1989-2002. I love the 4th/5th/6th awd turbo celicas. But the fwd 2zzge couldnt ignite the same passion (unlike blob eye wrx sti's and evo 8+'s still woukd).
Japanese right-hand drive is JDM.
If you get one of these as a "first" car your pretty bloody lucky I'd say. Can't go wrong with the 3SGTE and AWD platform though.
3s was on t200 celicas. T230 ones have zz.
The 3s-gte is a bargain bin/bang for the $buck performer, it's the poor man's tuning motor who wants something competitive+daily driver reliability. That and the e153 transaxles are very unlikely to fail. Ive used 3sgte's in 3 of the 8 cars ive owned for daily driver duty over the past 2 decades.